Anybody belong to a civilian militia? Florida Constitutional Militia reporting in.
How will you defend your family from government tyranny in the event of a mass gun confiscation?
Me and my buddies like to stay in shape. I know what you mean though, too many fat fucks who wouldn't last a day in a real combat situation because they would be out of breath. I can understand being built like a linebacker, but i've seen 400lb+ rednecks at training exercises.
I certainly wouldn't go anywhere near Milita groups for a start.
Because nothing says 'oppress me, please!' more than wearing BDUs and being a valid, easy to PID target than doing that.
The skills are valid, but expecting to operate in any way like a recognizable military force is pants-on-head retarded, and thats what most people seem to train as. They would get obliterated.
You're an idiot. The government would be fucking wrecked in a civil war. Mass desertions and guerilla warfare everywhere.
I bet you're one of those bitches that thinks the second amendment if for hunting/home defense.
Join of die, Fudd.
Please don't talk like that, you make gun owners as a whole look like douchebags when you do.
Besides which, thats my entire point. Why do you think guerilla warfare works? You blend in. Wearing plate carriers and walking about in groups has the complete opposite effect. Would they wreck people doing that? Of course. Thats what they excel at. Would they be able to effectively fight a force that looks like civilians? no.
So maybe stop being a defensive asshole and realize I'm on your side.
Thought I did but I cant find it.
i dont think so at all. civillians need to become more organized.. especially the declining white elite-minded disciplined men. if one day we are invaded or the federal police fucks up. we will have answers for them.
>We can learn a lot from the Mujahideen and IS, sure they're shitskin barbarians. but they can into guerrilla warfare.
>Muj stymie the tar out of the USSR in afghanistan
>Hide inna mountains and caves all day erry day
>30 years later they do the same to the US
People in the Appalachians, Cascades and Rockies already have an advantage over any invading or suppressing force.
Same goes with NVA/VC tactics in Vietnam. You guys in the pacific northwest should be able to take advantage of that kind of shit, what with living in a rainforest and all.
The federal police have already fucked up. The gov doesn't care about white Americans anymore. We are useless to them now. So they decide to open the boarder and import democratic votes to vote to take my guns.
Sorry breh, you and your merry band of fat old losers who play OPERATOR on the weekends would get ROFLstomped by any real force. You're better off alone or in a very small group of trusted friends.
I live in Bryson City, NC. I know these mountains like the back of my hand. I would LOVE to see the government try any gun confiscation here.
I'm serious, I WANT them to try it, just to see them get blow the fuck out.
Yes, they have the armored trucks and humvees.
Yes, they have drones
Yes, they have full autos
But what they do not have is HEART. The will to fight. They would get their asses kicked in any scenario.
People don't have to wear uniforms and sleep in FOBs and shit, that stuff is obviously not going to happen, but that doesn't mean operating as a unit wearing camouflage and using heavy gear is not a useful skill for the militia. Any operation that takes place somewhere remote will probably involve infiltration in street clothes, gearing up, operating, then ex-filtrating.
Having been said, not a lot of that will actually be necessary, it's mostly going to be about assassinations, sabotage, armed peaceful protest etc.
i guess you are not on the same mental page that i am.
just because you watched some faggot documentary about some militia in the mid west and they are all fat rednecks doesnt mean that every like-minded individual is fat or a redneck.
in order to survive you need to be a sharp and fit individual which is what i strive to be everyday.
learning wrestling, fighting, shooting, tactics and suppressing emotions to do what you have to do to protect your family should be all of your goals. one day it might come in handy.
be careful keyboard warrior
do you know how many gun owning civilians there are vs how many people are in law enforcement? theres a large gap.
not to mention will they have the heart to fire on their own families i dont think so.
They wouldn't get obliterated because they wouldn't actually try to operate that way. They wouldn't just wake up on the day of the habbening, put on their uniform, and start operating into town.
In fact, if a habbening habbened they'd probably just go to work like normal. It's not like you flip a switch and now it's CIVIL WAR TIME MOTHERFUCKER.
Any time you are willing to wear full heavy gear you may as well wear a uniform, though I think there is something to be said of lo pro gear in urban infantry engagements, makes it easier to exfil. Mostly you'd want to go heavy and wear camo only in a non urban setting.
What motivates your average conservative redneck?
Freedom and moonshine, bitch!
What motivates your average traitor (police)?
You think these Jew-controlled police departments have any true will to fight? HELL NO!
Farmers with guns won are freedom. What makes you think we can't do it again?
Appalachian American reporting in, I can confirm guerilla warfare around here would be a slaughter for them, much in the Muj style.
Forgive my terrible format, I dunno why I can't form the phrase I want to.
Then why do you constantly fight niggers. Get it? haha
The point is that I haven't seen a militia that emphasizes bomb-making, guerrilla tactics in terms of fighting innacity, disruptive attacks and all that useful shit over
>Hurr conventional military vs. conventional military, we'll simply hit n' run!
You'll get blown the fuck away.
I know that if you take on better trained professionals than you will get your ass handed to you on a platter unless you're using tactics that prevent that
i.e not fighting conventionally like a moron
Yes, clearly. But I mean, none of the other stuff seems to come up, either. They just seem to fighting like a mini US-army
I never understand this logic. In case you haven't noticed, Russia and the US both couldn't weed out the insurgency in Afghanistan. Guerilla warfare is a bitch. All those fuckers have are old small arms and IEDs. American civilians have better weapons, arguably better training (or at least not as much full retard "allah will guide my bullets"), and we can make IEDs just as easily. Plus you have to consider if shit went down the government would be a little hesitant to just start flattening parts of the US like they do over there.
I'm not a militiafag at all but seriously, get your shit together. If some dirt farmers could do it why couldn't we? Why do they have no trouble resisting armor and superior weaponry over there, but we'd get crushed? It doesn't make any sense.
I would assume any illegal training would only be shared among the founding members of the militia and not shared with new comers until state of affairs allow such things to occur.
Point is I haven't seen them train using tactics that would make it helpful.
Oh goody yes. Lets train people once shit is already going down.
Besides which, 'Train how you fight' is pretty fucking basic, and most of these militias fight geared up to the teeth. Its a delusion.
Eh, that's not really how it should work. A standing military can worry about recruitment standards. A quality militia takes who it can and finds where they are useful.
Fat and smart? - Train up for med service, or equipment crafting.
Fat and dumb? - Cook/defense/guard/driver
Fit and dumb? - Skirmisher
Fit and smart? - Kommando
Stephen Hawking? - Dreadnaught body program.
that depends but I would agree with that poster. If your militia group has a large online presence or is somewhat large there is a good chance someone undercover has already long been a member and possibly even the founder.
>Florida Constitutional Militia
>...to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; — U.S. Constitution, Art. I, Sec. 8, Cl. 16.
How exactly are you faggots executing the Laws of the Union by rebelling against an hypothetical gun confiscation people actually voted for? It seems to me militias nowadays are little more than self-serving gun owner clubs with their own conspirative agenda.
I agree that state militias can be useful, but from my understanding of the movement, there's no fucking coordination.
I mean srsly.
If you'd be so kind, and if it doesn't break OPSEC, does your outfit coordinate with other (in- or out-) state militiae (NOT other brigades of your own outfit, but actual seperate militiae)?
The militiae need a federal organisation -- so that a militia in indiana can have its interests protected mutually by ohio militiae, or cali militants running operations to support nevadans.
being fractured makes for 50 small, easy to break targets.
the minute you organize on a national level you become a national level threat to the standing government.
You would be on so many alphabet watchlists it would make your head spin
>the minute you organize on a national level you become a national level threat to the standing government.
ok? so the militia movement is one of two things:
>ineffective because it can't nationally mobilise
>ineffective because it would get arrested if it did
what a useless crock of fucking shit.
it's like you don't even want bulletproof armor in your militia. they will fight for you, carry loadout, and provide meat should you guys turn hungry in a nogrid situation.
not to mention the melee ability of big boys.
you straw men need to realize that without fat guys supporting your asses you will need females to figure out food. i've seen some of you. eating a snickers bar for dinner. PBJ for lunch. ONE FUCKING EGG for breakfast. it's like you guys can't even cook? or are you banking on living on 1 MRE to last a week?
fat guys have a damn good place in a 'well regulated militia'. if we die, use us for the FBI listed measurement of bullet penetration armor. i'll be laughing when bullets go past all us fat fucks and enter your skinny bodies.
Not anyone who previously posted in the thread.
Typically guerilla and conventional warfare tactics are side by side in most conflicts. Just food for thought.
>VC + NVA
>American revolution (blue coats and guerillas)
Anybody belong to a civilian militia? Federal Bureau of Alphabet Soup reporting in.
How can we defend against your family during government tyranny in the event of a mass gun confiscation?
The sheriff of the county just north of me didn't let his guns go when they tried to take them from him. Now he's dead by the hands of an overzealous deputy. I'll defend my family and nation with a gun in-hand to the day I die.
Healthy people work better then unhealthy people though and every armed force should have "some standards".
I'm not talking hit up roids or whatever, but they should start exercising regularly and eating better.
yes. healthier is preferred. but unless they should be in inpatient care then turning them away is a bad decision. a militia, or any militant force needs to be more than hardcore fighters. hell, even if they need constant medical care you can just get them captured in an enemy hospital. have them scout out medical supplies for raids and generally suck up the enemies resources like a sponge.
Nope. It only occurs when two conventional forces are actually of comparible strength. The NVA had a fucking air force. Otherwise they get creamed inside a week.
i.e you don't fire on someone that might or might not be a civillian, but if they're suspicious, walking in formation and wearing BDUs, you light them the fuck up.
If they seriously were teaching that kind of stuff at all they would be immediately arrested. Sorry, but the letter agencies DO keep an eye on these types of groups.