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>Homemade/DIY General

How about we design a simple occupation type manufactured rifle? Something anyone can make in their garage when the chinks invade, with only minimal tools.

We could pattern it after Japan's Emergency Rifle they designed in the ending days of WWII.

It's just a simple bolt action receiver fitted to a smoothbore barrel (just a tube/pipe), two piece FCG (trigger and return spring), a four piece bolt (handle, bolt body, striker, and striker spring) and a wooden stock.

Fucking simple, man.

Since it's smooth bore, the pressures are low, thus it doesn't blow up when it fires. It's not as accurate, but it's simple and reliable.
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>>22265994
I've always had a fascination with the Childs .22 pistol.
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I like the leaf spring crossbow.

http://www.popsci.com/article/technology/homemade-crossbow-designed-impale-car-door
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Something like this is the easiest, just 2 pipes, an endcap, and a 1D nail. Just slam the smaller 1/2 inch pipe that can shoot 12 gauge into the 1D nail thats welded or fastened to the endcap. Childsplay breh, no tooling at all except for maybe a file to make sure the inner tube slides proper like
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>>22266477
In addition to a shotgun, you can make it a mortar launcher using 12 gauge blanks, a dowel, and some sort of afixed explosive, generally a molotov cocktail
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>>22266477
I don't want to imagine how it would feel to hold that thing as it fires.
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>>22266502
Or fill a bottle with explosives and 1D nails (you already bought the box, might as well use what you have). then add a fuse and wrap that shit tight, a fuse is much safer than point detonating mortars just make sure its long enough
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Have something to eat while you make your gun!
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>>22266533
Absolutly shitty ms paint drawing for a homemade mortar but a sound design, use a 22 blank for impact detonation of explosives, probably gunpowder, with this design you just need a way to secure the end to the dowel, like a fitted cup on the end
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>>22266477
Except how often are you going to find shotgun shells in an occupation environment? Also, that's difficult to aim. The rifle or the /k/ liberator pistol can be aimed better than that.
Plus, they're more concealable on your person than that shotgun.
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>>22266515
Its not that bad actually, real fun in all honesty, just akward
If you want something fitted make a stock out of wood and tape or just use witchcraft like i did
>Pic related was turned in at a gun buy back
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>>22266543
That is tomorrow's lunch, dammit. That'll be amazing, thanks!
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>>22266561
Using a 209 shotgun primer makes more sense than a .22 blank.
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>>22265994
how about an smg type of weapon like this? easy to produce automatic and could be personalised with additions like stocks and fore grips
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>>22266616
Sentry gun mount for 'airsoft' ar 15.

Will post G code and how to when it's done. Build cost is around 600.
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>>22266581
Its just pipes man, point is its like 3 parts and a length of pipes isnt really noticable, not meant to be high tech just easy use mang
>>22266601
I chose 22 blanks because i have some around and most hardware stores sell them for ramsets, its only for ease of access, a shotgun primer would work just fine too but they arent as common
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>>22266561
In addition to a mortar launcher you could make mortars real easy
Some anon posted the original designs for this ages ago, its the CLIT or CLaymore Improvised Trap
Its just a small pipe shotgun with a spring pulling the 2 pipes together
Now this time you need to drill a hole in the big pipe and put a metal hook that connects to a string
you could place this in door ways after mounting the CLIT to the wall to be either a direct trap to kill or maim whoever opens the doorway or as a sort of alarm system if it doesnt succeed at killing the target
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8/10 would build from stolen plumbing parts
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>>22266623
As easy as open bolt weapons are to make, they run through ammunition quickly since their rate of fire is so high (Luty's guns run at 1,200 rounds a minute) and are unreliable.

Single shots are simple, reliable, inexpensive, and most of all they make you conserve your ammunition.

In an occupation type scenario, you have a very limited amount of ammunition. With a sub machine gun, 20 rounds could be one, maybe two kills.
With a single shot firearm, 20 rounds could mean 20 kills if you know what you're doing.
Plus, single shots are easier to suppress: there's no clanking of the bolt flying back and forth, it's just the sound of the striker hitting the primer.
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Are Knives okay? This is the one I am working on, trying to make the most generic knife possible. 1.25" wide, .2" thick, blade around 5"
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>>22266695
This is bait
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>>22266743
....what?

I don't think you're using that term right...
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>>22266723
Looking good man. What metal are you using?
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>>22265994
Favela forte
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>>22266765
I have no idea, other then that it attracts a magnet when it get hots and it smells like hot steel when I annealed it, and the swarf gets magnetized from a long filing with a bastard mill file.

I am thinking after this I want to try a single shoot 22lr along the lines of >>22266695 or pic related but I don't have a wielder...
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>>22266867
You can buy a simple "broken" wire feed welder from Craigslist for like $50, it's worth it.

Now, they may say they're broken, but they're not: let me explain.

Most of the time, people sell them because they have a lot of splatter when they weld with flux core wire, and they think the welder is broken. Well, it's not: the polarity of the welder is wrong. Most wire feed welder s can also do MIG welding, but that's a whooooole different ball game. Regardless, when you MIG weld you must have the opposite polarity than when you weld with flux core wire, I.E. the clamp should be positive, and the wire negative (don't quote me on wether I have the +/- right, it's late: google it yourself). A lot of the time though, they come out of the box set up for MIG welding, when the person only plans to use it for flux core wire. When the polarity is set for MIG welding and you use flux core wire, you get a LOT of splatter.

If you use Lincoln flux core wire (high quality stuff, doesn't splatter much), an anti-splatter, water soluble coating on the metal, and have the polarity right, you will have fantastic welds with almost no effort.
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Bumpin' before I head to bed
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>>22266624

including the AR or just the mount?
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>>22266695

The little dog eared girl in the lower left corner is cute though.
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>>22266867
that's bretty cool gun pic
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>>22266624
>>22266624
"Your honor, I didn't kill him per se, my killbot's software decided to shoot him, I just built the killbot.
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I forgot one more thing for you to eat while making you guns!
This shit works.
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Coo/k/ing
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>>22267308

So has anybody done this without blowing themselves up? If so please post pics/vids
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bump
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>>22267357
This looks so horrifying yet so good. I know I'd love eating it, but then feel shame afterwards.
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>>22267603
Building one of these anywhere is the equivalent of having a bbgun in public in most countries in the world. They'll gun you down without discretion or mercy.
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>>22267234
>not knowing Holo

Nigga, you have no idea.. Holo is guaranteed waifu-bait.
Watch Spice&Wolf if you want to know what it feels like when
>tfw you will never touch Holo's fluffy tail
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.180 Cal black powder micro rifle.
Uses flash cotton as a fuse and a single match head with TP wadding. Bout as powerfully as a red Ryder.
Made from antenna, glue, tape and wire.
Looks good in a gijoe hand.
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>>22266462
>shoots sharpened rebar
Awesome.
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http://www.mediafire.com/view/b0u3ppwel9aj7ln
Bump
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>>22268368
>shoots sharpened rebar

We half life nao
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>>22266673
I should probably post the original infograph with the dimensions for all the materials. I know this is kinda late considering its 12 hours later but the dimensions are here with an actually competant description of how to make pipe funs
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>>22272248
This has Wheat written all over it. Is he back?
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>>22272360
Nah, he's dead. That pic's been around a while now.
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>>22267172
NO AR! IT"S AIRSOFT ONLY.

Although this could be made from wood, or really any material, ideally it's made using the gcode on a CNC with Al 7075. If you have CNC access and that quality alloy, you can also make an AR lower.
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>>22267248
All it does is detect movement your honor. I did not tell it to kill per-say.
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>>22272476
It's definitely his style though being a quick paint job with not so perfect English though. He is one of the few anons who actually posts photos of the actual builds instead of just spamming random schematics.

>>22266624
I was actually thinking of doing something similar for a TOTALLY COMPLETELY AIRSOFT 10/22. Never played much with electronics and computers and stuff. How hard is it?
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>>22265994
A single shot rifle that uses a pistol round would be terribad for use against a modern military. I don't know what the Chinese use for armor currently, but it probably isn't much different from what the US/European countries/Russia use, which would be IIIa kevlar (capable of stopping .44 magnum from a revolver or 9mm from a submachine gun) covering the torso and groin and a plate that covers most of their chest down to their belly button and a second plate that covers a similar part of their back that can at least stop a couple hits from non armor piercing rifle rounds up to 7.62x51mm/7.62x54r (older US SAPI plates, Russia uses something similar) or possibly even from armor piercing 7.62x51mm/7.62x54r with a hardened steel core (US ESAPI plates, European countries use something similar). They will also have helmets that are IIIa kevlar equivalent (US Army recently adopted the ECH that can stop 7.62x51mm safely and Russia has helmets for special forces that will stop rifle rounds). You would be better off with a submachine gun considering you would be restricted to firing at their face/the non protected area between their neck and their helmet, if you managed to build something that could penetrate IIIa kevlar you could also shoot through their helmet and their vest under their plates (bellow the belly button). Shooting through the plates is out of the question however as unless you have a supply of steel core or tungsten core 7.62x51mm/7.62x54r depending on the level of protection you aren't going to be able to penetrate their plates.
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>>22272573
The purpose is to shoot someone who isn't paying attention, then getting their gun. This implies you need to be at close range.
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>>22272611
Then you probably aren't going to want a rifle like in the OP.
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>>22272542
If you dog kills someone, you could still be liable in a civil case.
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>>22272573
>A single shot rifle that uses a pistol round would be terribad for use against a modern military.

The Chechens used .22 rifles for sniping at very close range in Grozny aiming between the vest and helmet.
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1.A heat source
2.A hydrometer, or battery hydrometer
3.A large Pyrex, or enameled steel container (to weigh chemicals)
4.Potassium chloride(sold as a salt substitute at health and nutrition stores)
Take one gallon of bleach, place it in the container, and begin heating it. While this solution heats, weigh out 63 grams of potassium chloride and
add this to the bleach being heated. Constantly check the solution being heated with the hydrometer, and boil until you get a reading of 1.3. If
using a battery hydrometer, boil until you read a FULL charge.
Take the solution and allow it to cool in a refrigerator until it is between room temperature and 0oC. Filter out the crystals that have formed and
save them. Boil this solution again and cool as before. Filter and save the crystals.
Take the crystals that have been saved, and mix them with distilled water in the following proportions: 56 grams per 100 milliliters distilled
water. Heat this solution until it boils and allow to cool. Filter the solution and save the crystals that form upon cooling. This process of
purification is called "fractional crystallization". These crystals should be relatively pure potassium chlorate.
Powder these to the consistency of face powder, and heat gently to drive off all moisture.
Now, melt five parts Vaseline with five parts wax. Dissolve this in white gasoline (camp stove gasoline), and pour this liquid on 90 parts
potassium chlorate (the powdered crystals from above) into a plastic bowl. Knead this liquid into the potassium chlorate until intimately mixed.
Allow all gasoline to evaporate.
Finally, place this explosive into a cool, dry place. Avoid friction, sulfur, sulfides, and phosphorous compounds. This explosive is best molded
to the desired shape and density of 1.3 grams in a cube and dipped in wax until water proof. These block type charges guarantee the highest
detonation velocity. Also, a blasting cap of at least a 3 grade must be used.
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>>22272627
You act like anyone would actually put a real gun in this thing. The only situation where people would, is if they are already bad enough people that they don't care about killing random people, (eg cartel farmers) or is shit hits the fan in a rebellion type way.
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>>22266515
probably feels better than being dead
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>>22272691
I feel like this is a Johnny post. Capping it either way.
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>>22272802
It's not, it's an old bombshock post. It is a good recipe.
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>>22272683
Good luck making a shot like that when you don't have a rifled barrel.
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>>22268085
More of this?
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Might seems like a retarded question, but if I want to build one of those single shot guns with steel pipe, and I am using a 3/4" pipe for barrel, what size does the coupling needs to be?
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>>22265994
You guys should download The Dokument, there is a bunch of documents about reloading and weapon building with "household" stuff

torrent:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:F4294ED6278A78BE6200131044A7E058017C2DBF&dn=The%20Dokument&tr=udp%3a//t
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I was just looking around regarding MOs recent amendment to protect firearm ownership and stumbled upon this:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/5822
Does it only affect firearms made to be sold? Or are we all boned?
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>>22273283
Sure
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>>22274902
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gunna build me a personal range for this bad boy this weekend.
I think functioning micro guns will be a new hobby of mine
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>>22275562
>tfw you used to always carry tiny versions of weapons as a kid because of an irrational fear of being shrunken.

Takes me back, mang.
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>>22276649
I got a weeks worth of in school suspension in 4th grade for one of those GI Joe guns.
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I always thought a somewhat simplified version of the B?yskawica SMG would be interesting. Almost no welding is used in it's construction and it seemed fairly functional, if a little homely
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I'm presently building a CAD of this for my own foolery, and perhaps build using the 3D printer I'll have in the coming months. Not exactly khyber pass but fuck if I am going to pay 130 for a bit of ABS and two straps. Shoot, maybe after I'll pawn some off to a few friends of mine.
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>>22266582
>hencho en switzerland
that fucking gets me every time
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>>22277379

Join up with the Fosscad guys if you haven't already.
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>>22277379
Hey what did you get for the dimensions on the buffer tube? I have the OD and length, but I need the dimensions of the rectangular part.
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>>22276649
I WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE THANK GOD
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1Blowback question: following the calculations from Orion's hammer, I have it understood that 7.92x33 kurz uses a 6.7~7lb bolt, vs 6.3lbs for 7.62x39?

If this is the case, why not build a VG1-5 clone out of an AK receiver (can a close enough be made out of a cut up 1.375" square tubing?) with a guide rail welded to the bottom under the trunnion part of the receiver. The front trunnnion is an Orion style milled chunk of aluminum. The barrel is a barrel blank with the piston profiled in and fitted with appropriate gas ports.

The slide is built out of tubing, perhaps rectangular tubing with a riveted/welded threaded cylindrical insert to fit a cap perforated to fit the barrel though, with the whole of the slide riding on the rail welded onto the bottom of the receiver. On the other end of the slide, an Orion style laminated bolt is secured to the slide with screws. The hammer is a simple AK hammer.

The receiver endcap is a bit of a mystery, held in place with spare AK pins, perhaps the safety lever? For sights, mount an Uzi style sights to the slide, perhaps cheapened out using a hexbolt and a welded on washer? Or mount a red-dot on the receiver endcap.

In 7.62x39 the gas ports will be necessary in order to make a sufficient gas buffer to avoid the slamming slide from breaking up the gun. It could be interesting to make it in lesser calibers, perhaps omitting the gas system and making the slide lighter to avoid limp-wristing.

Reading up on GunLab's reproduction gave me the push to think this out.
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>>22266543
Where's the meat?
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>>22266608
People need to quit this.
Seriously.
Stop it.
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>>22277379
That pic...
>buy AR pistol
>buy arm brace to keep it a pistol
>buy foregrip
>ATF my SBR
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>>22280857
Wouldnt that still make it an AOW though?
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>>22280965
It would.
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>>22280965
Not if it's one of those magpul grips.
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>>22268793
I really like the guy who has been making these guides. If someone goes and makes instructions on making barrels then this dude has the potential to be the new Luty.
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>>22277379
>>22280857
>>22280965
>>22281053
>>22281059
Ah ah ah ah, you are all forgetting that it's not a pistol, but a "firearm": and as such is not an AOW and can have the foregrip.

Basically, if the firing OAL is over 26", but it has never had and doesn't currently have a stock attached to it, AND it has a foregrip: it's a "firearm", and not a handgun or rifle.

Take a look here: http://www.franklinarmory.com/XO-26_Letter__c_.pdf

That guy is totally in the clear, the gun is 100% legal.
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>>22265994
Pfft like that POS would help.
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>>22281627
Well you can't shoot someone very well without a gun, so it probably helps.
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Old tripfag Tovarish made this thing.
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>>22268085
I was thinking of making a match powder micro musket. Could be cool? Or absolutely dire?
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>>22266543
add bacon, remove tomato, and its a 10/10 snack.
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>>22282716
mite B kewl
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Anyone hear any news about Wheat?
Is he still reputedly dead or lost in Cambodia?
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>>22282729
Would those shitty like cap gun pellets be a decent propellant

>http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B001BRVBH2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1407417907&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40

Or just grind match powder?

I had a thought if I scaled it up a little I could ignite it with Christmas tree lights. I made a plan before but never acted on it
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>Just made a little black powder canon

My ears
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>>22282777
Go away, Wheat, stop farming for attention.
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>>22282794
I guess the powder from toy caps could work. But there is very little powder in each cap.

I've tried using a .22 case full of crushed matches to fire a pellet from an old .177 air gun barrel and I got a loud sonic boom. So at least in small bores, crushed match heads are far more potent than people think.
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>>22282809
I'm genuinely not wheat.
Wheat can be a bit of an attention whore at times, but he's not nearly as bad as others, like Zed.
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>>22282819
It's just another "whups im ded/gone" thing that most tripfags do.
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>>22282814
Sweet cheers. Back when I first finished uni for the summer I asked about this and later came up with an ignition idea. I'll copy pasta it from my notes. Sound plausible?

Small low voltage (1v) lights with exposed filament. Make container, fill with match powder, put light through lid and seal it tight. Get long wiring, connect wires, detonate with a 9v battery whilst far away (this overloads the low voltage light which makes the filament burn igniting the powder, if under pressure causes an explosion.
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>>22277978
>why not make a straight blowback 7.62x39mm rifle?
The Soviets beat you to it by about 70 years.
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>>22267357
thats fucking epic
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>>22267357
Damn my lactose intolerance!
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>>22283078
Man up take it you bitch!
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>>22283089
I would, except something like that would completely destroy my toilet.
I just dont feel like buying a new toilet.
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>>22283147
>doesn't have mil-spec bathroom facilities
lern 2 Operate harder!
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>>22272823
http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/barrel-blanks-tools/barrel-liners/index.htm
You buy.
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>>22283367
>implying that's available in shit-tier countries or after SHTF where and when people really need them.
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>>22283384

>implying this is /shtf/ not /k/

Are you being a silly cunt on purpose?
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>>22265994
There are thousands of instructions for building a rifle... How does one build ammo?
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>>22283367
Judging by the chain of posts, the poster was talking about the smooth bore rifle suggested in the OP and how a homemade submachine gun would be better. In both cases you most likely wouldn't be able to just buy a barrel blank.
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>>22283396
This is my idea for now.
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>>22283641
WHY.jpg

That looks extremely unreliable, and it would be unsafe as fuck.
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>>22265994
When I get a job, I'm planning on buying a used percussion cap barrel off of eBay, and building a lock and stock from scratch.

Depending on the condition of the barrel, I might cut it down and make it into a cap lock pistol.

Farther down the line, when I have more money and shit like a drill press, I'm planning on designing an ultra simple blowback design that can be made by anyone with simple tools. Hopefully the design will be simple enough that ithe length an bolt weight can be modified to shoot just about any cartridge.
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>>22266543
>needing an infograph to make quite possibly the simplest food ever
Pleb.
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>>22283651
I will retort with "the burden of proof lies with you".
In a slam bang/four winds any worries of flash back would be negated by the chamber. It takes little force to strike a match. The design is based on a timeless recipe for grenade fuses.
Whats your beef?
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>>22283725
It's pointless bullshit. A fuckload pressure will escape out the primer hole. Ignition will be weak at best. Unless you're using black powder I doubt you'd get a good powder ignition and burn. And if you get a dud, which is likely, you can't just re-cock and try again like you can on a cartridge with a normal primer.

Also, shells without metal case heads explode in slam-bang guns.
I have photos of that.
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>>22281097
I actually want I make one of those. It's ugly as fuck, but in a good way.
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>>22279748
I demand you explain this socercery at once!
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>>22283782
All good valid points.
What would be a better solution?

Scratch built shells from off the shelf parts.
Been eye balling pop rivets myself lately.
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>>22283147
Plastic bucket. Then you'll have an undestroyed toilet and components for a diy bioweapon!
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>>22279748
Seriously though can someone explain whats wrong with the first mechanism?
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>>22284019
I second this, top and bottom are almost exactly the same.
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>>22284019
something something pivot point
science

it's bad
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>>22284137
>>22284019
oh boy. build it from cardboard, test it, see the problem.
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Take VG-1 idea of a simple receiver milled out of bar stock fed using detachable mags, and apply it using currently available mags.

>G3 mags
>M14 mags
>SVD mags
>PSL mags

>AK/Galil mags
>Stanag mags

>Glock mags
>1911 mags
>10/22 mags
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>>22284390
>milled
>implying milling machines are practical
>implying you couldn't make much better guns if you had a milling machine
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>>22284019
Negative sear engagement. As the trigger moves, the object impressing its force on the sear is creeping forward. This makes it super easy for a shock to make that object slip from the sear and discharge.

The second design is a good idea due to it having positive engagment, the object impressing its force is moving slightly back as the trigger is pulled which makes it a very safe design.

I don't understand what is going on in the third design though.
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>>22267357
Dia/b/ties
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how do you into electric ignition? just curious.
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>>22277048
you fuckin serious? i carried a 3 inch pocketknife all through middle and high school and no one gave a fuck. then again its a small rural school and i knew all the teachers really well.
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>>22277379
If you are interested join up with Fosscad, as >>22277464 said.
We are a great bunch of guys, here is a link for you, www.fosscad.org/fc/about/
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>>22284926
Im on my phone right now but ill gladly explain when i get back to my pc.
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>>22285721
please do, the simpler the better.
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>>22285789
I will.

The wire you use for the ignitor has to be small so that the current you are putting through it causes it to get very hot and burn.

The wire in an incandescent lightbulb demonstrates this very well. They get red hot. The only reason they never burn is because they are in a vacuum.

So to apply this to ignitors, use a christmas lightbulb. The really tiny ones. Heat the tip with a lighter and dip it in cold water and the top will crack off. Then, fill the bulb with either BP, potassium chlorate, hmtd or mf.

When you close the circuit, the bulb will either burn or blow up depending on what you used.
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>>22283396
Dammit, does no one remember the P.A. Luty instructions on how to make expediant ammunition?

http://thehomegunsmith.com/pdf/EHF_Handgun_Ammo_Book.pdf

http://thehomegunsmith.com/pdf/HomemadeAmmoSamplePages.pdf

>>22281627

The above is where that "POS" would be helpful: old, dirty, corroded or homemade ammo does NOT like to feed in magazine feed guns, especially semi autos and very much so in the case of homemade guns.

A simple single shot will function with any ammunition, as long as the primers and powders in said ammunition are still in working order.
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>>22268074
Fuck you anon i almost forgot all the feels
oh well, might as well read the light novels too, at least i'll know if there's any sort of happy ending
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Obligatory Eoka bump.
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>>22287423
How safe are the barrels produced by drilling a big bolt?

How far could it be scaled up before it gets scary?
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>>22287484
Pretty damn safe. I've personally tested 9mm Luger barrels made out of M20 bolts with smoothbore 8.8mm bores. They were perfectly safe. But i would not reccomend using anything more potent than 9mm in an M20 barrel unless you make it out of a high strength steel.
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>>22287723
I've heard about /k/ people hammering a slightly too big hex key down the barrel for rifling. Does that actually work? Is it hard work, or does it go through fairly well? How effective is hex rifling if it goes in a straight line?
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>>22287423
>not leaving the threads on the bolt so it can be screwed into the receiver
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>>22287839
I didn't make the infograph, but that's how I would do it.
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>>22287759
That is for legal reasons. It doesn't acctually improove accuracy, it's just that smoothbore pistols are illegal in the usa, so pounding a hex key an inch down the barrel will make it legal.
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>>22287870
>That is for legal reasons
I know that, I just want to know if it has any positive effects (other than keeping the ATF from shooting my cat)
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>>22287839
I think most people would realize that if they wanted to keep the threaded section they could just not chop it off.
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>>22287882
No. People have tried straight rifling before. It doesn't work unless in very spesific conditions.
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>>22287932
Does it negatively impact the barrel? Would a smooth bore that didn't get fucked by a hex key have a higher pressure since it fits tighter?
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>>22287946
I dont know for sure but i suspect that smoothbores do have a slightly higher muzzle velocity. But in practical use you would not see a difference.
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>>22282777
Dead or in prison.
>>22287946
You're gouging the barrel and the displaced metal has to go somewhere, so unless you remove that, you're going to have even higher pressures.
seriously, a rifling button can be had for ~$200 get one and 30 seconds on a press.
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>>22288005
>200$ rifling buttons
Link that shit!
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>>22288023
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Combo-Rifling-button-22lr-titanium-coated-brand-new-barrel-/201124416175?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed3f30aaf
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Combo-Rifling-button-7-62-tokarev-Ak47-titanium-coated-new-barrel-/201134475334?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed48c8846
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Combo-Rifling-button-9mm-luger-9x19-titanium-coated-brand-new-barrel-/201121604906?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed3c8252a
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>>22282726
sure fatty
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>>22288023
Can get them at Drill masters Eldorado Tool
Cheaper than the Ebay guy too.
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>>22272360
>22272360
who is this Wheat fellow? How was he kill?
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>>22290643
Wheat was our DIYguy + ballistician + one of the few good trips.
Large portion of his family passed, then his sister wasraped& killed in cambodia.
He left an anon a letter & pics to show if he was missing. He said he was either dead or in prison.
Current anon theories are suicide by cop and hunting down rapist/murderer
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Bomp.
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>>22290690
Or he was, you know, lying.
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>>22285882
Is it possible to make an electric ignition that doesn't need reloading/rebuilding every time it is used?
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>>22293891
Possible, yes. Practical, not really.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/12/chris-dumm/electric-cartridge-primers-gone-but-not-lamented/
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>>22294790
Making christmas lights sound like a good option.
With some creative wiring it probably wouldn't be too much trouble to reload.
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Does anyone have more of Wheat's guides and designs? Love em'
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>>22268074

Thank you for those feels, you bastard. But seriously thanks for introducing me to Spice and Wolf. 10/10 would brush fluffy tail.
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>>22267357

high /k/holesterol, but worth it
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>>22295123
I would love to help you out. I think I have all of them, but they're on my computer and I'm not at home. I'll dump them in this thread as soons as I get home.
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>>22295158
fuckkk
Either way, when you get in, I'd love to have an image dump on Imgurl or something. Thanks either way man :D
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>>22295123
FOR YOU
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>>22277134
I always wanted to attempt to reverse engineer this thing. There isn't a whole lot out there about this gun in terms of how it's built, its dimensions, etc.
too bad laws in NJ won't allow me to build a firearm.. I wonder if I'd be able to make one out of paper/plastic first.
Also, would one without a stock be considered an sbr by any chance?
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>>22295381
AHHH SHIT MANG
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>>22295233
That's more or less what I planned.
But it could be a few hours. I'm going to the hospital soon and it's going to take like 4 hours.
FUCK CANCER.
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>>22295399

Just look at close up photo and drawings - rescale any head on photos. I'm pretty sure the workshops that made them hand fitted them and they're all slightly different.

Theres much simpler and better designs out there to copy if you're looking for simple/easy. The Blysk was mainly designed to be assembled in lots of little complex parts so production wouldn't be discovered.
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>>22295381
anon pitching in... All these should be combined into one HD memorial but it would be too big for /k/
Were all in this together.
Don't forget to hammer a 6mm hex wrench through this a few times to keep it legal..
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>>22267308
>what is ATF
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>>22293891

goodbye left hand
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>>22265994
>emergency "rifle"
>Smoothbore
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>>22296051
It's better than a sharp stick.
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>>22296082
i'm pretty sure he's complaining about the fact that they call it a rifle despite the lack of rifling
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>>22296136
I don't think the japs have a word for musket as westerners know them, if that's what he's getting at.
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>>22287348

That needs to be fired.

A grain or two of BP ain't gunna hurt no body.
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>>22287932

It was very popular at the turn of the 20th Century.

I have several revolvers from that age with straight rifling. They do a fine job for what they are.
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>>22282829
we'll see. his designs are rather distinct, he'd be identifiable if he posted new stuff. even without the holo.
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>>22298018
This. And the guy doesn't seem to be too tech savvy and probably only knows how to use Paint so he can't really post OC as an anon without being discovered.

I think he's gone for good, like most good triphomos. Maybe he got fed up or maybe he is rotting somewhere in Cambodia. It's the same shit with Johnny.
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Falling-block rifle or pistol chambered for some common rimmed cartridge or shotgun shell.

A very simple design mechanically, can be made relatively strong and they're easy to use.
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>>22265994
Can you be a poorfag and use a normal reamer to chamber a barrel or do you have to drop a few hundred on a legit chamber reamer?
Also, whats the part of the barrel called where the rifling just begins right after the chamber and is kind of smoothed so the tip of the bullet doesnt hit the lands and get stuck?
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>>22284390
>Glock mags
>1911 mags
>10/22 mags
No sense in making these bolt-action like the VG-1, just make them straight-blowback, maybe even open bolt if you're not worried about the law, cheap and easy.
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>>22299036

>use a normal reamer to chamber a barrel

If it's for a pistol caliber i don't see why not

>Whats the part of the barrel called where the rifling just begins right after the chamber and is kind of smoothed so the tip

Looking at google images of cut barrels, some do have a space some don't
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>>22299036
Throat
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>>22298692
but they can be a pain in the ass to build. Requiring either extreme levels of hand fitting and filing, or very expensive broaching tool.
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>>22266553
Uh, what do we have here?
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>>22303466

I don't know what it is but it's missing a lot of measurements
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Have a semi auto p-14/17? Tired of worki the bolt after every shot? These rifle can fire out of batter with the bolt unlocked... Solution take a pipe, cut out path for bolt handle, attaché tube to screw holes on the dog ears and butt plate and enjoy answering questions such as what the hell is that and can I buy one
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Bolt action sorry
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>>22305196
Ha, welcome to the party like 80 years to late. The Snabb already beat you to it.
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>>22276649
paperclip weapons man, good times
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That's what I was referring to to, but in a simpler, home made way
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>>22305432
Forgot to link
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>>22303466
>>22303571
Hownew.ru
It's an AR DIAS.
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>>22267603
>So has anybody done this without blowing themselves up?
There's nothing inherently dangerous about it. Potassium chlorate + petroleum jelly is an old method of making "plastic" explosives. Trying to make your own mercury fulminate can be pretty dangerous though.

>>22295713
A branch that does not have the ability to regulate the distribution of information. Info is not illegal to have.
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>>22283793
Do it if you have the tools. I'd love to see if someone could make a working model.

I dunno if the guy who writes those guides is American, or if he's just paranoid. His two guides have deactivated barrels and he claims they haven't been fired.
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Finished my mini matchlock prototype.
Still working on proper load ratio and I haven't tried any powder yet. Just flash cotton.
I use a chunk of incense as a slow match letting me line up a shot with out a burning fuse rushing me.
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>>22308498
All hail king of the mice!
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>>22306856
I don't know why he wouldn't put a real barrel in the pistol, but remember his mac-10 clone was open bolt.
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>>22266624
Post it already you god damn nigger, I want to get started so I can have my barn guarded by /k/ill bots
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>>22308659
Also I think it would be funny to equip them with speakers so that they can say select a random phrase before dispensing lead.
Examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-eF-rZ5sEE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=F5UysDohnr0#t=35
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>>22267994
Where the hell can you get shot for having a bb gun out in public? I constantly see kids playing in the alleys with their bb guns
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>>22308879
Commiefornia obviously.
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>>22266543
>heating lettuce
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>>22308659
Sorry, I didn't read the "when its done" part.
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>>22266543
>Hot Cock sauce with Mexican food
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>>22288275
Not even fat but
bacon is love
bacon is life
year of our lord John Moses Browning 1911+103
Not putting bacon in everything.
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>>22265994
As promised before I had to go to the hospital, here is a collection of Wheat infographs. It's missing one or two but otherwise I think it's complete.

http://imgur.com/a/ZVPJv
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>>22310920
Clit isnt wheat breh but heres the electric ignightor
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>>22311278
CLIT is from Wheat, atleast that's what ge said when he was educating us on the dangers of 4-winds shotgun.
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>>22311278
Thanks.
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>>22311407
Sorry Mustve missed that, ive seen people claim tons of designs as his, only to have him deny that
>>22311424
Heres also his only entry in physics, just so you can complete the wheat collection
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>>22311278
>shit-tier english
>design that is completely pointless
>ugly MS Paint "infograph"

Yeah, it's Wheat alright.
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>>22311486
If you are talking about the shotgun trap I'd say it is very useful for certain applications. Poorfags claymore if you will.
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>>22311609
It would be great for protecting your i?l?l?e?g?a?l? ?c?a?n?n?a?b?i?s? ?p?l?a?n?t?a?t?i?o?n?s? ?i?n? ?t?h?e? ?w?o?o?d?s? legal crops on your own property.
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>>22266462

I didn't open the article, but can't anything penetrate a car door? I recall seeing a video of a toddler with a screw driver doing so.
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>>22312328
Modern cars are made from very thin steel, because they're filled with rubber mats and shit to reduce noise and vibrations, so the steel has to be thin to keep the weight down.

If you really wanted to you could stab through a car door with a screw driver or a sturdy knife.
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I'm currently working out the CAD for making a pistol. It'll just be a dinky little .22lr, but if it works it will be fun. So far I've got the barrel housing, barrel, breech and firing pin all set up. I decided to work my way outward from there. It's being completed in my spare time, but I'll show you pictures of its development as it comes along. Hopefully I'll be able to manufacture this at the machine shop at school, but it'll be questionable. If I keep the pieces separate, I doubt there'll be a problem, and the guy in charge of the shop is pretty chill, but we'll see.
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>>22313407
How will the barrel swing up, if the lower rear end is touching the breech plate?
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>>22308879
America.
Kids get the cops called on them all the time for playing in the alley with bb guns.
At least where I live anyways.
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>>22313813

I'm trying to keep the small angle approximation of linear motion there by keeping the pivot point at the other end of the gun, near the muzzle. This is a work in progress as it is now, and is by no means a finished project. I hope to complete it and then release the detailed machining plans to /k/ after I verify that it works.
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>>22297784
I'll fire it eventually. I'm thinking match head powder and shot from a shotgun shell. I'll shoot it at a steak of something to see how it penetrates.
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>>22308498
Make sure you proof it at about 3x the recommended load.
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Remember that cap about the guy who shot napalm out of a shotgun?

I kinda want to do that for kicks but I know fuck all about reloading. Think if I just take a cheap load and fill the was with relatively thick napalm it'll work? And what about recrimping the thing?
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>>22311763
Except man traps are illegal in every civilized country.
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>>22316166

>man traps

That had a whole other meaning for a moment before i understood what you meant
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>>22316230
Are you one of those /b/ faggots ruining muh /k/!? WELL ARE YA!!??
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>>22265994
This thread has been here for days.
Whats the bump limit on /k/?
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>>22319788
>Whats the bump limit on /k/?
300, I'm pretty sure.
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>>22309699
Using a power sprayer or something like that unmodified seems dangerous. They aren't exactly designed with heat in mind.
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>>22282056
This guy took the "rotating bolt" part of "rotating bolt, gas operated" way to seriously.
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>>22322180
>homemade
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>>22322942
>vietnamese knock off of a chinese copy of a ppsh
Since when d o shacks and tunnels inna jungle not count as "homemade"?
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>>22323038
Its modified not made in vietnam
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>>22323461
The design is a modified version of the type 50.
It was manufactured in vietnam.
Most guns the VC put together were like that.

I'm out of vietnamese guns, have a pole.
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>>22323506
Here's some more vietnam.
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>>22323539
Locking lugs are for capitalist swine!
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>>22306818
This. Poor man C4 is not too hard to make but making it in a usable quantity and finding (or making which is dangerous) a blasting cap for it is the trick.
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Ignorant brain fart time.

Could magnetic attraction between the bolt and the chamber compensate for bolt weight in a blowback design? Or maybe on specific locations on a frame (imbedded steel in polymer) to create "drag". Making say a 1 lbs bolt mechanically act as a heavier one.

With that in mind. Could magnets repelling in the rear and attracting in the front of a bolt remove the need for springs?
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>>22323683
No. I would not try it.
The magnetized parts would take a beating. And magnets stop working when you hit them enough.
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>>22323693
Noted! I forgot about the effects impact has on magnets good point.

But what about magazine springs that could compress completely? Float the carrier away from the mag floor? Lighter weight, less parts?

It's why I call it a brain fart.
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>>22323822
I actually think I've seen a working prototype AR mag that used magnets instead of springs. But it seems springs are more practical.
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>>22323848
>springs better
yeah I figured
I was thinking for the know nothing D.I.Y.er to whom the construction of springs may be a mystery but "epoxy space magic to tube" could still be accomplished.

I was thinking along the lines how to make it lego simple.
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>>22288383
Wow, that is actually really reasonable prices. Anyone have any experience with them? How many barrels would one button make before it starts screwing up?
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>>22324673
Do they even list prices? I can't find any.
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>>22324859
PDF catalog http://www.dmetool.com/images/stories/pdfs/price-catalog.pdf
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>>22324873
>http://www.dmetool.com/images/stories/pdfs/price-catalog.pdf
This says nothing about rifling buttons...
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>>22267292
you had me at beer can.

Lol'd sufficiently.
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>>22323900
Thats a damn good idea anon.
Mabey it would work for a .22 or something with low recoil.
Or a bolt action and just use it for the hammer/striker so it doesnt actually take any of the recoil at all.

Anyways, to make springs all you have to do is wind some spring wire around a rod.
Use a smaller rod than what you need because it will uncoil slightly when you release the tension, making it a little bigger.
It will also shrink a little length wise the first time you compress it, so make it on the long side.
drill a hole in the rod and stick the end through to hold it while you wrap it around.

Protip: springwire and music wire are the same thing
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What kind of a tubing do I need for .454?

I'm making a derringer and I want it to be as powerful as possible because lol only one shot and I got a box of 454 from my friend.

Yuropoor here so not much experience with guns btw.
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>>22328522
>Home made .454 casull derringer
You deserve to lose a hand(and maybe an eye), you fucking retard.
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>>22328589
How so? The cartridges are big, I know, but a lot smaller than shotgun shells and people use fucking plumbing pipe for that.

I have some seamless pipe with 5mm walls, when I drill it a bit more open for 454 the walls will be a tad bit over 4,5mm.
From what I can tell commercial revolvers have less on their cylinders 'weakest' spot.
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>>22328626
shotshells, although very large, have low pressures.
You are going to hurt yourself, dont do it.
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>>22328626
>The cartridges are big, I know, but a lot smaller than shotgun shells and people use fucking plumbing pipe for that.
Their size really has nothing to do with it. Shotguns fire very low pressure ammo, which in addition to the smooth bores makes them good candidates for DIY shit.

.454 casull is a very high pressure round, just forget this incredibly dumb idea and thank me for saving you some appendages.
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>>22328676
But I only have ammo for 454, .357 maximum and 7mm remington magnum (this shit came from an old shiluette shooter)

Which one is best for first diy build and can be shot from a seamless pipe?
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>>22328770
>Which one is best for first diy build
None of those.
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>>22328770
A .22lr or some type of a shotgun. Preferably something comparatively weak like a .410.
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>>22329282
.410 has a lot more pressure than 12g
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>>22328770

Son, fuck around with these and you stand to lose a hand.
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>>22329350
>>22328830
Well gee thanks for the support. I guess I'll have to go on my own then.

Note to self: never ask help from /k/, they are a bunch of fags.
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>>22329417
Not either of them, but telling you to avoid larger calibers for your first DIY build is called being intelligent. Enjoy losing an eye.
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>>22328770
Then go obtain other ammo.
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>>22329417
Have fun with that, stumpy.
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>>22266369
More info on this? Googlefu is failing right now.
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>>22321252

My grandfather's brother brought back a locally-made S&W clone he bought from some villager back in 67.

Sadly, when said brother died, his piece of shit weed fiend son pawned it.
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>>22329318

But has much less than .22LR

There are a ton of calibers with less pressure than .22LR, so I always find it funny when someone says "your first gun gotta be a 22!"

.38 Special has less pressure (not the plus P shit mind you) coming out than .22 does. I think by 3-4k.

But I recycle old 7.62 barrels and make .32 derringers out of them during the Winter when I'm bored and it's too cool to go outside.
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>>22328770
Make your own custom low power shells then.
Pull the slugs from the shells and reload with match heads and shot.
Straight walled brass is great for mini shot shells for diy pipeguns.
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>>22316050
Ive seen you postin that since you made that one thread about it, i wanna see what it doooooes.
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>>22332080
I think this is it.
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>>22329417
>some ignorant yuro is given sound advice
>scoffs and insults wise /k/ommandos
I hope he does build it, and I hope we get to hear about the carnage.
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Well, I'm pretty bored atm and current laws and surroundings won't allow me to build a firearm...
But I found that pvc makes for some good Bow material.
Now, I noticed that they tend to have a low draw weight, so I went ahead of my self and made a half inch pipe go into a 3/4 incher, I cut a bit into the 1/2 incher and then pounded it down with a hammer. It worked fine and all, then I tried to use the heatgun to shape it to give it "limbs. it just plain doesn't work. the heat isn't transferring good enough to the inner pipe.
While I go to the hardware store and buy more pipe, could you guys give me some ideas to getting both hot enough to shape?

Also, how would dowels do for a bow like this? I don't think the lower draw weight will send splinters into my hand and arm, as long as I make sure to select them properly, and brown people used shit like cane for arrows way, but I suppose making some sort of armor for my arm and hand wouldn't hurt.
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>>22332408
Pressure doesn't equal power.
While .22 is higher pressure it's much weaker and less likely to blow up your gun.
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>>22328770

whoa whoa wait a minute son

Start small, build a .22 for safety if you could build this one and it does not break,, you're good to go for .50
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dude nice! once you use it a few times and they know it explodes you can make inert versions that just have the fuze. save on explosive materials, and still scatter/rouse the enemy.
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>>22338675
Did you forget something?
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>>22323683
technically that is how it works now.

We always wondered how magnets worked, little did we know that magnetism was working us.
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>>22338938
yes
>>22266533
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You can run hot HOT! water through the middle. Sand can work better (retains heat longer) to but is messier. Just keep the water flowing through for a while (best to pour into a container to reheat used warm water cuz it boils faster).

Then take a tin can, split and flatten it. Cut it into a wide "T" shape, then bend it around your heat gun, hold it with wire/or hose clamp. Now bend the dangling metal nose into a hook to go around the pipe containing and directing the heat.

It's best if you can get a sheet of wood that you can run some screws into to clamp the pipe down. Then bend it running screws into the wood on the outside of the bend to keep the shape while cooling.
Done right you can lean the board against a wall with your catch bucket on the ground, funnel at the top, camp stove with boiling pot.

With a jig you can even set the curve half way and recurve back making it stronger more compact and just plain cooler.

Get some packing tape (the kind with the fiberglass threads. Wrap it completely up, pvc will shatter into shards. Pointy shards. Cloth tape, leather or rag wraps give it a good wasteland feel. Spray on plasti-dip and a steady hand or large diameter heat shrink tubing to look pro.

Reinforce the ends/ string attachment points. Extra chunks of pvc, can work shimmed in and layered and glued. Or molded flat drilled and grommet reinforced (pop rivets work great once you pry the stud out).

You can make good strings from dental floss. Get a large spool unflavored, waxed.
Drill screws in a board the length of the finished string.
Tie a fixed loop in one end about 4 inches wide with a long tail.
Hang it around one screw and wrap between screws 12 times, and once more for good luck ending one the same side you started.
Tie it off through the loop, wrapping all the way up to the screw. Tie it of and wrap the other end. Remove screws. Wrap up end loops (you can wrap wire into the loops to extra strength copper or aluminum no rust).
Notch point once strung
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>>22329417
>hurr let me ask experts about my project plans
>durr those faggots said it was a bad idea what a bunch of retards
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>>22340344
hey cool, thanks man.
I'll see if I can get a jig running tomorrow
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holy fuck this thread has been going on for three or four days
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