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>New? Start here:
http://pastebin.com/vmW2qYkD

>Mods:
http://pastebin.com/HcTtYVsn

>1.69 and prior versions changelogs:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29

>Elona Custom Discussion:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:25014

>Chat server back online:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:19535#107

>Previous Thread
>>17268570

Current Version: Elona+ 1.69 (6/25/2017)
Latest Custom: E+C 1.69.3
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Lulwy was here
Mani a loser
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>>17289310
Can someone one reupload the younger sister pack from the pastebin, the archive is broken. Thank you.
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Just learned you can doom items yourself.
If I doom a scroll of flying will that have a considerable difference in the weight gained to an item?
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>>17289369
Compared to simply cursing I mean.
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Is it possible that you can't sell food harvested (and cooked of course) from cursed seeds? I'm in the process of turning my general shop into a food shop and there are certain dishes which my pet never manages to sell and they start to pile up. The dishes in question are normal, blessed as well as cursed and they're all made from melons, potatoes, carrots and sweet potatoes. I suspect I've planted some cursed vegetable seeds which now give me those four foods I can't sell.
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What is the correct way to level up weapons nowadays?
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>>17289676
>godbane
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>>17289676

How do you get the game to show you a numerical value for equipment bonuses?
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>>17289742
Elona Custom option, requires object of heart.
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Fucking finally, >30 hours of gameplay and no lucky day.
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what level of gardening makes wish rods possible (>1/10000 chance)?
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>>17289795
Gardening level makes no difference in wish rod chance.
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>>17289800
that's both excellent and terrible, thanks
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When you select hit me on 20 and still make it
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How to train shopkeeper trading skill when he has over 120 trading exp?
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>>17289842
Use the desk.
You have been keeping their potential up, right?
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>>17289842
Just select the option in menu.
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>>17289669
If your shop rank is low, high price foods won't sell. Otherwise they all should, if it's food.
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>>17289916
I thought those vegetables just don't sell at all, and isn't muskmelon the most expensive non meat food item?
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>>17289676
Living weapons aren't that great in 1.67+ (10/15 level max with/without bloodsucking respectively). Could make one into a specialized harvesting/crafting tool, though. Sounds OK, in theory it least.
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~180 casino chips later
Got 41 corruption pots and 8 faith scrolls from it. Jesus christ I'm exhausted now.
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>>17289880
mostly

sell exp grows rather slow, i usually get about 2 per day despite selling ~100 items daily

I don't think it depends on the amount of items sold, since my food shop sold 3-5 times more items than blacksmith and they both got approx the same sell exp


What feat is better, more money on visitors or higher prices?

Since i don't suffer from lack of customers - in fact, both shops exhaust the stock in a few days if I do not replenish it - I suspect that higher price is better.

What do you think?
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Can ranged weapons activate piercing attacks? I have a crossbow with it at #####+ but I have never seen it happen.
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>>17290079
If you're too tired to carry them I'll hold them for you. Go and take a nap I'll put them someplace safe
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>>17290098
The money feat seems worth it to me.
You go from 30% max to 33%+300, which is at least a 10% increase in sale money.
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>>17290244
Perfect for the Lesbian on the go!
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>>17290157
It looks like it applies to trading items for other items, not for selling. Either way, it's the best trait to take, because other traits aren't very good.
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for fucks sake, game, stop throwing living weapons at me, I already have more than I know what to do with.
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>>17290361
Give them to me, I've played for 700 hours and never found one
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>>17290385
Not even through crafting? I got 6 this lucky day alone from crafting all the lightsabres and panties.

Speaking of Lightsabres is pic related good?
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>>17290416
>5 resists
>+increases critical chance
Why are you even asking?
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>>17290416
good but not alive. 4/10
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>>17290416
Honestly I may very well have unknowingly sold one, because I craft a lot and dump all those miracle panties in the shop.
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>>17290440
A good method I found to checking if a weapon is living is to press T and check if weapons show up in the use menu. If they do theyre living.

>>17290437
Epic

>>17290429
For fun. A shame I'm already at superb on all those resists. Only need nerve and poison.
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found a paperwork moon gate, time to carry it home
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>>17290450
More resist won't hurt, and you can use artifact fusion on it to stack even more resistance.
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>>17290468
True that. I'm going to try leveling one of the living lightsabres I got first though. What's the best material for lightsabres by the way? I think Kai talked about that once but I couldn't find the post.
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>>17290450
Cheers, that tip may save a living weapon or two from landing in the garbage heap I mean our shop's quality merchandise.
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>>17290477
Ether. They can only be ether. Just use craft repair kit to triple it's damage and you're good to go.
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>>17290477
Admantium and Rubynus are both good choices. Make sure to use a repair kit to max out your dice if you get the chance.

>>17290486
You can change the material of a lightsaber if you use a material kit.
Or at least you could. I'm pretty sure that hasn't changed, but I haven't done if for a couple of updates.
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>>17290479
Only the best products are sold at Younger Sister's Merchandise Ltd.

>>17290486
Oh, I thought they could have a higher dice with another material. Yeah I'll see if I can find a craft repair kit.

>>17290497
What this guy is talking about is what I was thinking of. And yes, you can change it with material kits. I did that to give my Karata a rubynus lightsabre.
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>>17290497
Oh fuck, you're right. Ether is still one of the best materials to use damage-wise though.
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Can ranged weapons activate piercing attacks? I have a crossbow with it at #####+ but I have never seen it happen.
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>>17290104
>>17290574
Impatient faggot
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>>17290599
Ive said it before. This thread is getting too fast. Probably some fag from /vg/ who expects an instant reply.
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>>17290740
I'm from /vg/ and called him an impatient faggot, because with any observational skills it's obvious not every board or thread works the same. When in Rome do as the Romans do
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>>17290763
Good job.
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Something tells me that day will never arrive.
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>>17290807
I sure hope that Noa didn't just work himself to death.
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Updated sprite folder. Added 2 hairs, 1 eye, military uniform, loincloth, beret, snail on head. https://mega.nz/#!tvZSBTAT!E7Z8wlBOrTg_GbX0JiBFc5FdE1GLsu4a28a5qVhLrGI
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Any ideas for a way to quickly and easily change the image files in the folders while playing? I set up evochat to be h scenes, and think it'd be neat to be able to cycle between various ones on the fly.
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>>17291119
i think we're about 5 updates away from elona being an h-game anyway
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Craziest shit just went down (well not that crazy but still). I'm just walking through Palmia to go buy some food and make a stop by the shops, when all of a sudden a guy just comes though the wall and my little girl stops time and kills him. I had no idea what was even going on at first, just figured out from the log and hole in the wall. The thing is I'm sure that no one should have wanted me dead like that, in town at least.
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>>17291194
that's an adventurer, did you kill one earlier or steal from them?
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How does forced sleep sharing work? I want to rape this orc and not have consensual sex with him.
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>>17291338
Yea now that I think about I killed one a while back in game (and I think one died when I blew the town), didn't get really get to see who it was this time though. I'm guessing they come back to try and get me?
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>>17291357
Oh and to add, I found that they had broke through like two buildings, with blood on the ground near by, I thought maybe someone may have gone crazy from prostitution.
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>>17291351
Try lowering their HP. Knockout is useful.
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>>17291351
>>17291407
>beating someone up to rape them
>>17291143 It's already here man.
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Is time stop ammo an incomplete feature or what? It's not in the directives.
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>>17291351
I couldn't get it to work anymore. I'm thinking it was stealth removed because ew rape.
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>>17291571
You have to get their health down to what's necessary to capture them with a monster ball (1-2%), then squeeze them while you're on a bed while you're sleepy. You'll get a -20 karma hit but there's a chance that during it your relationship with your pet will become docile, but you'll temporarily get a relationship hit.
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>>17291351
>Player's Strength is rolled against (Target's HP * 20 / Target's max HP) * (Target's Strength / 2 )
>(Target's HP * 20 / Target's max HP) has a lower limit of 1.
>If the former dice (player's strength) is higher, then it succeeds.
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>>17290516
That and dragon scale isn't good for weapons, it's for armors.
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>>17291655
yeah unless i'm misunderstanding the weapon deal, it's ether for best damage to weight ratio, diamond for better damage but heavy as hell, ruby for life and mithril for casting, all others can suck a dick. reasonable?
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where's my merfolk class that comes with swimming and treats coral equipment as superior. can only eat fish. get ano on the horn
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Is there a spell or scroll I can use to automatically find where the stairs are in a dungeon so that I can do dungeon runs really quickly? I tried magic mapping, but it didn't seem to reveal the stairs.
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>>17292220
Magic mapping does indeed reveal stairs, though obviously only if the space the stairs is on is revealed.
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Well that's level 100 for me, but I still feel like my stats are too low.
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>>17292220
Sense object
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>>17292393
They do seem to be. I'm like half your level and not that far off.
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What the fuck man my speed is higher when I'm not riding than when I am.

Is it because of my Kokou (You beliee in your own power) or You prefer alone (SPD+20% when alone) feats? I abuse my horse in that I never feed it and let it constantly die.
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>>17292682
You monster
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Fuck I misplaced my seven leagues boots and saved before I noticed they were gone.
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>>17292694
Protect you stuff. Open e'x'amine menu and press * on an item.

It won't show in 'd'rop menu and can't be sold.

Won't protect it from randomly dropping after death though.
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>>17292717
god I knew there had to be a function like that thank you.

how do I get the boots back
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>>17292717
>Open e'x'amine menu and press * on an item.
Oh god I've played Elona since before Elona+ and I never knew this was a thing.
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how to catch rabbit
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>>17292734
oh wait I got him with poison and waiting 25~ turns.
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>>17292682
Yea it'll be because of that.

>>17292734
Knockout also works
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>>17292763
Thanks, do you recommend I invest in a mount then? I dont know if it has anything to do with my 38 s weight.
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>>17292775
No, I used a mount myself until like the last boss of part 1, removed it and never went back.
Betwen speed spell, gamma core and no pet bonus I can outspeed enemies vastly above my level and kill them easy.
I don't use pets at all, however. The mount was the only one I bothered with. So if you do it may be more worthwhile
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So scroll of oracle said someone found a god statue in the pyramid and I was told it should still be here because the pyramid is static.

How do I find it? Just run around slashing mummies? I opened the bejeweled
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>>17292787
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Pyramid_trial_level_16
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>>17292787
I told you that time it was dropped by the boss Tuwen, since he guaranteed drops a statue, so it should be in the last room on his corpse.
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>>17292800
oh. I picked it up already and threw it on my lawn thinking it was particularly valuable furniture.

I hope I didn't throw it out.
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>>17292805
It can be used in order to refresh all the dungeons on the world map baka, all the god statues have some special usage except the statue of creator (man doing crane pose) which is garbage
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>>17292805
You picked it up, so worst-case scenario you could swap a little sister for a replacement.
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Whenever I'm in Yowne and Gwen walks up to me I use her to train my combat skills.
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The informer says there are 3 adventurers in Yowne but I can't find any of them.
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>>17292825
>>17292847
Yowyn*
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>>17292847
Adventurer locations are really just for show, you will never find them at the location it says they're at.
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>>17292851
Thanks.
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THIS FUCKING BITCH EVERY FUCKING TIME OH MY GOD MOVE
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>>17292873
cast teleport on yourself
zap her with a rod of teleportation
dig through the wall
kill her
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>>17292873
throw chestnuts at her


always chestnuts
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I haven't followed the E+ changelogs too closely. Was a method of turning gold into platinum ever added to the game?
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>>17292851
I've never known it to fail when it gives the location as a town. Dungeons, yes; towns, no. It's possible their sprites are disguising them; I've seen adventurers that look exactly like town guards, for example.

>>17292873
Perfect time to get some Mining training in; might even get some free gold bars out of it.
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If I wanted to teach my cute older sister negotiation skill so that she could be a lovely shopkeeper, would gene engineering be the only way?
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>>17287868
He wasn't ridiculous as it is, so i taught him the stat buffs along with holy veil.
What do you think about that AI setup ?
Reminder that this AI setup is for a low INI pet that is 90% resistant to all physical attacks and completely immune to all elements aside from raw magic.

Also, no sign of skill rise slowing down so far.
The first skill to reach 2000 will probably be faith, thanks to pary quests.
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>>17292990
You can give her a scroll of gain attribute, but those are fairly rare and the skill she learns from it is random.
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>>17292990
Just leave her in the shop and let her train it normally.
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>>17293001
Yep, figured it would be way too bothersome.

>>17293002
But she doesn't have the skill. Can shopkeepers learn negotiation while they are in the shop?
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>>17292999
I thought you had to end with a guaranteed condition or else the pet would spam error messages? I've been putting "player HP <= 100%: move (forward) & preserve entity as target" at the end of each program. Is that unnecessary?
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>>17292990
Ahh the sweet clinging to normality before consumed by the perverted SM nightmare that is Elona powergaming.

Getting anywhere with pets involves so much gene engineering you'll make Angel of Death or the Human Centepede guy feel like clumsy amateurs.
Killing completely harmless NPCs as the only viable way of getting unique, irreplaceable artifacts (esp in Lost Irva).
Get ready for Elona+: Goodbye Humanity.
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>>17293073
No! I will never succumb to the dark side!
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>>17293069
Distance = 1 then melee and distance > 1 then forward are together effectively a guaranteed condition.
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>>17292393
It doesn't matter, everything will be 2000 if you grind long enough. Especially pets, those max out fast no matter what you do - INIT wankery just makes it a bit faster but irrelevant in the long run. Ditto level, which is meaningless (apart from "I'm half your level but twice your stats!" peniswaving).

If anything, to everyone new I'd recommend going through the story as fast as possible because if you get stuck on herbing or skill grinding or w/e you'll roll over everything by the time you reach final story areas which breaks the fun. Void aside, Elona+ is an easy game.
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>>17293097
Yeah, but it's "target distance". What if there's no target?
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>>17293122
Custom AI is used only in combat, no target no combat.
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>>17293129
Well, that'll make things easier. Good to know, thanks.
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>>17293077
That's what I said too anon.
Then before I knew it my "good" character was trying to plot ways to "accidentally" kill Gwen the Innocent for a feat.

Now I just pretend all gene engineering I did never happened, and have resolved to clone Gwen to give her a good life to retain her innocence to make up for all the murder.
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>>17293177
>I just pretend
Living a lie is no way to live. Better to atone for your sins, and come to terms with the truth.
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>>17293106
What would you consider final story areas? I'm on act 3 and killed Egelveil the bind on the 10th floor in the cradle of chaos. What else is there really, besides more unique NPCS and bosses to kill further down?
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How fast can a low level shop sell stuff?
Am running multiple farms and end up with hundreds of jerkys.
Should I just sell them at the trader or built a shop?
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>>17293220
Give me an idea of how to atone because I for the life of me can't figure out how.
I can at least try to make up for Gwen with the ALP copy by giving her a nice home and treating the real one nicely afterwards.
Kinda hard to make it up to the all the slaves I bought that were deconstructed for such trivial things as teaching a little girl how to cook.
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I think it's finally the time to drink that potion of cure mutation...
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>>17293336
just kill her so hard she stops respawning so she cant hold a grudge or get over it everyone except that one king is immortal anyways
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>>17293352
Well on top of there being at least 3 definitely killable people in at least N Tyris, I refuse to believe that story wise anyone can claim to be immortal except Jure since she is basically suicidal Jesus.

Even you count the rare book of resurrection or maybe demi gods/gods being able to revive on rare occasions the story is literally built on death including death of gods.
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>>17293250

Low level can be slow, but as it improves you will instead find it difficult to keep the shop stocked as they sell everything in one or two nights.
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The future looks so bright I can't help but smile.

https://youtu.be/ZmdBiiXzjhM?t=90
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>>17293250
Shops give massive amounts of gold later, so even if it's slow at start, just make sure you aleways have something to sell and you get ranks/shopkeeper exp.
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Is there any reliable way to get scrolls of growth besides sounenir vendors in Arcbelc and Larna?
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>>17293555
The dwarves' workshop.
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>>17293518
Holy shit
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Want your opinions anon. Planning of getting one member my team for each style of combat.
Already have dual wield, single and shield, gun, and mage picked out but want opinions on a Martial Arts pet.

I'm thinking either a wandering penguin (easy to get, learns browbeat on evolution, not humanoid) or snail the Android rider (super regene, floats, shine snail) though the latter will take forever since I am just starting and only level 20.

Was also considering Karata since it is a talking chest with tons of immunities, but seems like it would be difficult to gain ap if you aren't a power gamer and exploit ini resets.
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I'm still trying to understand where to allocate skill points. I know I want cash, but I don't know how long it takes carpentry or other skills to be viable, and killing bosses seems like a good idea but i've read you're not supposed to put skill points into spells.
However, at only 166 magic dart, I'm starting to get ruined by bosses, meaning I need more stat grinding, which either means I get a wealth-building skill up or work on raw damage.
If I put 300 skill points and 200 platinum into Meteor and magic practice, will I just be able to end all of the south tyris bosses? Or am I doing this all backwards?
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>>17293518
this looks fucking incredible
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>>17293610
I did the same thing as you. Here's how I select my pets:

Is it cute? Does it have a cuteness type we don't have already? Does it make a nice pair with one of the other pets? If Y to all three you're hired. In this game the weakest putit can become a godslayer so only cuteness matters.
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>>17293518
Oh god there are so many Younger Sisters. I wonder just what NPCs and adventurers will be able to do on their own in the new game? Make buildings? Create their own little villages?
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>>17293686
agreed, if you can't see yourself either marrying it and kissing it on its protrusions or petting it and feeding it table scraps then don't hire it onto your team. not that those two roles are mutually exclusive ofc
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Sheeeeit! This is so above and beyond anything else I had previously seen in the black market I just had to buy it. One million... zenny? what was the currency ingame called again?

I'm frankly surprised it's not even godly.
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>>17293728
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Eternal_force
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>>17293728
> The enemy dies

true
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>>17293728
>Zenny
This isn't Ragnarok Online chief, we use ordinary gold pieces here
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>>17293733
Interesting.

>>17293741
I was thinking more of BoF, or any other capcom game, really.
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>>17293648
Go for wealth-building. You'll have to get there eventually i think, as things like scrolls of growth are extremely pricy.

Even if you manage to Meteor down Act II bosses, what do you get? Some precious artifacts - nice, access to act 3 Leold and artifact fusion that you won't be using to full potential as can't get decent Godly items.

Go for investing, make some shops, herb farm and so on.

That's only my opinion and i might be wrong.
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Apparently you can't stack fruit threes of the same type on one square to get multiple fruits per bash. Bugger.
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>>17293798
I meant fruit trees.
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Does anyone know where I can find a juice mixer? A static one I can steal is okay too.
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>>17293836
Embassy
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>>17293836
Try looking in general, goods and furniture stores. Also, I think I saw sales people in cyber dome stock one from time to time.
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>>17293840
Already checked. No one had them stocked.

>>17293841
No vendor in Palmia had one. I guess I return to Lesimas and check the cyber dome.
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>>17293847
Don't forget Yowyn; it has both shops.
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>>17293847
That's a bummer, it's where I got mine. Shops restock every three days I think.
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>>17293797
i definitely trust you over whatever it is i'm thinking, considering how much I haven't done yet.
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Bums. There isn't a single town with a static juice mixer to borrow. Time to gobble up some snow.
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>>17293686
Honestly that has sorta been my thought process. It's just I wanted more a party I would enjoy adventuring with, problem is there are so many interesting mobs I can't decide. So I made a goal to get 1 for each fighting style for my battle party and 1 from each type of npc that is recruitable.

So Little Girl as a menu pet, fox brother as a diary pet, defender as a god pet, and military putits as a random neutral mob so far.
Planning on using a scroll of ally mob to run my shop, and just realized I might as well catch a wandering penguin for my hostile mob and get Gwen as my penned npc.

My only worry is a party of six will be too hard to manage for a casual player.
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>>17293972
This is where you recognize the magic of tagging.
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>>17293972
This >>17293983
Always take a strong pet, and tag-team a weak one with it. Do a quick check to see if one or two aren't hogging all the kills and you should be fine. Strengthen equipment every once in a while and as you make/find better gear, have a chain of handmedowns going. Sooner or later everyone will have decent gear. On lucky crafting day, it's just a matter of gathering your pile of quality gear and running back and forth to the informer to check and spread resists around.
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>>17294011
One thing I'm doing right now for pets that have trouble keeping up with the others is tag the weakest together, and shift run through upper void levels with only them. Everything gives AP but isn't too tough, they can train to their heart's content and then I can drop by Leold to give them traits, speed and a ton of bonus points.
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>>17294053
so void is useful even at early levels? I've been hesitant to get the license because i probably can't make it very far, did not realize that early void was for pet grind
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>>17290104
I haven't seen absolute pierce work on a ranged weapon in the shoot slot. If you equip the ranged weapon that has absolute pierce in the melee slot and pistol whip a monster for instance you'll see vorpal pop up every now and then though. Most likely you don't care about that but just explaining how it works. Having said that, range users still get access to normal pierce through special ammo and some ranged weapons already come with built in pierce. In fact, their special ammo pierce is 100% pierce.

>>17293648
Just need to raise the crafting skills high enough to succeed in crafting whatever it is you're aiming for. I don't feel like higher crafting skill levels necessarily means better gear crafted though just success in crafting stuff. Instead, luck attribute can play a part in the quality of the stuff you create as well as rl luck with the RNG.

As for your spells, all wizards should ditch magic dart for something stronger when their casting skill and resources allow for it. Magic dart just doesn't scale well later on and you're seeing that yourself it seems. All the line spells such as ice bolt, fire bolt, lightning bolt, etc do more damage and the ball spells such as ice ball, fireball, magic storm/magic ball do even more damage than line spells. My personal bread and butter damage spells are the elemental ball spells, magic storm, and for special occasions meteor. That's me though. If you want to go with something like nether wave, chaos ball, or raging roar, and using line spells to conserve MP you'll do well doing that too.

I personally never used bonus points on spells. Only used bonus points on casting near the end of me capping it so I could cast wish at 100% success rate. Magic schools and just leveling spells on the field I found good enough but since you need a spell to replace magic dart in a hurry I can see spending some on getting a spell that scales better of your choosing up to speed.

I'd be careful about leveling meteor though. Remember that the spell damages everything on the screen including pets and your character. It's possible to level up the spell too much earlier on and not have the HP and resists to avoid getting killed by your own meteor. Be careful of anyone that puts you in rage status and then casting meteor as well.
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On a pet's status screen, lower INI is better right?
INI is shown as two numbers, for example 275/204 or 317/96. In this case which would be better?
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>>17294104
317/96 is better. You should check out the AP page on the wiki since it has a section that sheds some light on the calculations going on in the background of whether you get AP and how much.
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>>17294086
I think you can start making use of it relatively early on, considering with good gear you can beat enemies several times your level and the enemies you find in the upper floors are putits, hermit crabs, all the weak dudes (only difference being the level+stat bonus). But the bosses every 5 floors can be tough, and after a few dozen floors you might get minced by superpowered versions of old troublesome enemies (I got surrounded by pixies and electric tanks)
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>>17294099
extremely informative, thank you!

>>17294184
wonderful, it's like puppy cave 2
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>>17294099
Speaking of wish, Kai, how much casting you need to 100% it? I want to know how much plat I need to hoard and how much I should spam oracle.

Also, do you know any good ways to recover MP in non-combat conditions? Mana rods run out way too fast, and just waiting takes a lot of time.
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>>17294336
>good ways to recover MP
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>>17294336
Have you tried using Dupli-cane when using the Mana Rod?
That should work, and 3 stamina should be way easier to manage than using draw and fill charges.
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>>17293518
What is this, I am not good with moon
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>>17294392
Only attack rods are affected by Dupli-Cane.
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>>17294392
I have dupli-cane permanently enabled, and it doesn't work with mana rods.

>>17294352
Completely forgot about that guy, and he'd require me to forget about sweet luck bonus from Ehekatl. I guess I'll have to take him though if there're no better options.
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>>17294392
but duplicane only works with damage-dealing rods... or else I would be spamming alchemy
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>>17294401
>>17294402
>>17294403
My mistake. I don't use rods enough to have noticed I guess.
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>>17294402
DNT LEAVE EHEKATL PLS HAVE CAT
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Hey guys Trusted Virgin here, where can I find PC sprite sheets that have full turnaround views? The pastebin seems to have only statics.

I'm looking in particular for pic related.

Also, I used to do sprite sheets and pixel art as a hobby so I could have a hand at trying requests and making more custom sheets/statics. I need to know the specifications though like resolution and how the game reads the files etc. Having some base templates and any other complete sheets would be very helpful for referencing also. I want to contribute back to the community.
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>>17294427
jesus christ what the hell is that
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Here's a couple example of stuff I did ~2010. Lost interest in the hobby but I'd like to get back into it. I'm more used to working with a higher resolution than Elona though (Maplestory).

http://pixeljoint.com/files/icons/full/schoolgirl_bag.gif
http://pixeljoint.com/files/icons/full/schoolgirl_wink.gif
http://pixeljoint.com/files/icons/full/assault_rifles.png
http://pixeljoint.com/files/icons/full/other.png
http://pixeljoint.com/files/icons/full/handguns.png
http://pixeljoint.com/files/icons/full/shotguns.png
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>>17294438
Blurryness and artifacts asisde, what I'm looking for my axe warrior.
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>>17294439
>http://pixeljoint.com/files/icons/full/schoolgirl_wink.gif
those r cute
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I taught my pet shadow step through Leold but she refused to ever use it. After going through wiki comments I realized many melee pets try to move towards the enemy 100% of the time, and when in proper distance just wail on them. So they will not use it unless movement probability is lowered - because then on the turns that they don't move, they roll for an action which could be shadow step.

Another thing I get from this is if the pet's proper distance is >1 or their movement probability is low with no spaction to close in, they will not go into melee and instead fuck around most of the time until something gets up in their face. That may explain why some creatures seem to waste turns half the time (I'm thinking of those faggot hired adventurers).

Also teleporting seems to work for tagged pets, my new shadow stepper is taking her partner with her every jump.

inb4 ''old news just use custom ai''
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Fucking bell pet ate a fluffy tail and a rare herb before I noticed it with their stupid high speed.
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>>17294336
How much casting you need will depend on the actual wish spell. A higher wish spell level will require more casting since wish actually gets more difficult to cast as it levels up. However, there is a point where that difficulty seems to plateau making it possible to achieve that 100% successful cast chance.

You don't need 2000 casting to achieve 100% success at lv 1 to some low lv from what I recall of my earlier days. I'm not sure of the exact casting levels you need for each wish level but just get as much casting as you can and look at your success rate with the wish spell once you have it in stock. If the percent chance of success looks reasonable you should be able to get by. Removing armor also should be done before casting the spell as it can help in casting it successfully. Unfortunately I can't answer how much plat you'd need to set aside for casting training but yeah just get as much as you can for it.

As for MP recovering, I agree with >>17294352.
Itzpalt's special action you get from his worship recovers MP by using stamina. The amount of MP recovered grows as you raise your piety with him through donating more rods.

The ability is really nice when paired with the vampiric ability feat. With my previous character I would just weaken a monster to really weak, sandbag the guy, and use said sandbag enemy as a stamina battery with vampiric ability. So I'd recover stamina at my sandbag and just convert stamina to MP when needed. Pretty good early on for extended fights against bosses where I'd run out of MP early in the game.
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>>17294439
>>17294427
You mean PCCs? They're 128 x 192, 4 sub-images for each direction. They're stored in \graphic\PCCs folder, vanilla game has at least two bodies which can be used as reference.

Static sprites are 48 x 48, of course.
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>>17294468
tell them to not pick up things on the ground or just hit them with a taming whip until they cut it out.
There's very little reason not to do that and it will save you a lot of pain in the long run of them eating things they shouldn't.
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>>17294427
There are a ton of PCCs in various packs in the pastebin (e.g. chinese, tieba). The sprite you want seems to be just a default body with default parts, which honestly are shit. Most anons here use premade PCCs (set all parts to 0 in appearance, turn off equipment at dresser, save the pcc you want as pcc_body_number and select it under body), some edited or made ourselves.
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>>17294469
I'm way too past lvl1, that's why I'm asking. And I lucked out with both spellbook of wishing and wonder scrolls, so I want to not waste these 415 stock.

I know I'd need at least a few thousand plat, given that I can stretch one training session (10pp) for 4 levels at most.

>As for MP recovering, I agree with
Damn. Sorry, Ehekatl.
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So I picked up a "the historic feather <Bugger Sacrifice>" and tried changing it from steel to platinum because wiki says platinum increases PV and steel is baseline but I ended up going from 16 PV to 12 PV at platinum. What went so wrong?
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like a bad joke
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>>17294507
heh
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>>17294498
Different materials have different average values, but they still are randomly rolled (within limits). So two at first glance identical platinum helmets could have different PV values, and if you used a scrolls to change another helmet to platinum it could have a different value too.
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>>17294498
Try using a repair kit.
Although it's probably a waste since normal wings have fairly low PV values regardless.
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What exactly do blessings do to an item stat/attribute wise? They just act like a smith/enchant scroll adding to the +1 at the end of the name? If so I'm guessing they're a way to get a technical +11 enchantment if +10 is the highest through smiths.

Also I'd apreciate very much clarification on what enchantments do exactly. And if blessing does anything for attributes like "it makes you a better tactitian (##)"
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>>17294521
So if I'm getting this right the 16 PV on steel could have been a good roll on steel and my 12 on plat was just RNG shitting on me.

>>17294526
If you mean a material kit I don't have access to them yet nor is the wing a godly with any decent attributes.
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>>17294526
He's working with feather, which, unlike wings, has good PV.

>>17294528
Yeah, technically +1 to enchantment. There's away to get technical +16: 10 through smiths, then 5 through stardust and final 1 as blessing.

They add hit chance for weapons and DV\PV for armor. No effect on attributes.

>>17294533
Not that anon, but he meant craft repair kit. They're sometimes sold at general vendors for 12000 gp base price.
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>the maid looks good enough to touch
b-but I have a maid (male)
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>>17294493
E+C looks so good

Is there alot of custom modding or is it just like installing an udpate? I haven't updated to 1.69 either since I was concerned about my save file.
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>>17294336
I'm not Kai, but I had same problem as a caster.

You can use Draw/Fill charge actions on mana rod.


Collect random rods and draw charges from them. Bless and protect 1-2 mana rods,
You can use carpentry to mass-produce rods for destruction and hotkey the "draw charge" action to make things fast. I stored few thousands charges this way.
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>>17294493
Can I get that graf anon?
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>>17294560
It's not custom, lol, it's
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:24987
Though he's not updating it, so I'm pulling the sprites for items\monsters in latest version from vanilla files.

>>17294563
Yes, you can, see above.
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Aw shit here we go guys.

>>17294475
>>17294488
>>17294476
Thanks, pic related.
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>>17294574
Danke
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>>17294599
What's up with the random german?
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>>17294578
Nice bells. I'm not seeing any new pccs though, just statics. You should find a nice one and replace that default body of yours. Make a portrait while you're at it too, it's easy. https://pastebin.com/uAVqeTbz
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>>17294604
I asked for a german bote.

I didn't find it though.
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>>17294616
Thanks for the pastebin. There wasn't a link to that in the sticky.
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ok do NOT press the ALL button on the pages it gave my computer a aneurysm.
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>>17294616
Is there an easier way to find a specific mod rather than looking through all 196 pages? There was something like a mod catalog for TDCG/3DCM
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>>17294636
The OP pastebins have pretty much everything, going on pixiv/the uploader is really just to find the new stuff. Besides the easy sprite/text/portrait/evochat customization, you can edit the game spritesheets yourself to mod it on the go. There is a lot of stuff in the Tieba pack to work with.
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Thanks for all the help.

Anyone want to make a request for a character mod? I can give a hand at it the next time I'm isolating from the world.
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Does anyone know whats used instead of favor for absorb mana when used by pets? Not sure what to expect( with e+c )
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>>17294651
Well, since you're asking, I would like to ask for a fairy PCC, since that what I'm playing as.

>>17294662
IIRC it's still favor, just yours.
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>>17294662
There are two versions of that skill; I figured it used the second one.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Actions#Special_Actions_Unique_To_Races
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>>17294667
I'd need a reference and for you to be a bit more specific. What exactly is a PCC, a player character sprite sheet? I'd be able to give you a static over a full sheet since I'm getting my feet wet.
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I'm probably a dumbass but I can't get chat working
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>>17294678
>What exactly is a PCC
Check .\graphic\PCCs in your Elona folder.
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>>17294678
Not him, PCC stands for player custom character. That is to say all the animated sprites with 16 32x48 frames (name implies they are intended for the PC but you can use them for pets as well). Clothes and such are also PCCs. I've been making a bunch, it's fun but takes time.
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>>17294683
I had problems too, go back through the threads ctrl+f "server" and you'll find a post that explained everything. It should be 5~10 threads back
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>>17292999
According to wikia page(and partially my observation) the most basic golden bell got resEle bitflag as well, no?
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If I'm going to modify NPC character portraits can I just replace "face1.bmp" in >graphic with any of the 1~8 sets in the all-in-one pack sheets without modifying them or do I have to change the portraits one by one and take resolution into consideration?
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How lewd are your pets! Is this game getting lewder? Why haven't you become a family man?
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>>17294678
>>17294689
>>17294702
Looks a bit hefty for a first try. I'd gladly give a go at a static though like the bitmaps in the uploader though.
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>>17294723
meant to quote >>17294667
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>>17294672
oh i'm fucking blind. thanks, anon
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>>17294678
O shit, I don't have any reference on hand, sorry. PCCs were already described, so I won't bother repeating.

>>17294714
You can replace face1.bmp with another face1.bmp, but if the new file is missing something, you'll see it.

>>17294719
I'm a family woman, in fact, I have not one, but two wives!
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>>17294719
I am a family man, I have a wife after all.
I wish I could marry off my pets to each other though.
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This is the new evolution of the blue bubble.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Blue_bubble
It looks soso.
Make it palatable, even better if it loo kinda the legacy bubble bobble dragons. (blue prefered to stay within elona's scheme.
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Meal sharing doesn't seem to work well with resistances.
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>>17294781
>Isca
fug

I ran into her in the pet arena
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>>17294781
><The tastes was...overwhelming!>
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>>17294719
Somehow i ended up as a male mutant with 6 waists and 12 female humanoid pets with *dog* relationship. There is so much innuendo almost everywhere in this game, sigh.
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>>17294795
And I missed the wingy snail before I had enough space in my team.
That's really a point I'd like to see touched up with unique companions.
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Well I guess if someone's interested in requesting a static 48x48 my offer is still available. I'll be around.

and thanks for the help.
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>>17294802
>sigh
Go back to where you came from
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>>17294808
>>17294774
I just did.
You are free to either make it closer to the inspiration (bubble bobble), or to make it fitting for the moemngirl pack.
Your choice. That should be a nice training.
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http://www.elonaup.x0.com/sozai/src/up8098.bmp
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>>17294817
oh I thought you were just commenting on it out of nowhere. Which is the moemmgirl pack? Line 148 in the pastebin?
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Any advantages with a blessed leash/tamer's whip/stethoscope?

and do I only need one of each and does it reset upon desummon/death
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>>17294808
you been fuckin your vendors
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>>17294847
no advantage/green text
one of each
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>>17294859
danke
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>>17294839
Yes, that one.
Here's a reference for the character it is based on.
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>>17294507
>I am the bone of my sox
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>>17294812
No, i wont go back to /hgg.
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>>17294719
Fairly lewd. From what I can see the sleep sharing options have lines that have been translated. I like how the pets now all contribute to crafting and cooking in the morning.

Considering we already have alien impregnations, gene engineering, sleep sharing, and making a gene, kinda would like an option where you can make progeny on the same save file with some trait inheritance from the parents. Guess you can just rp it at the moment though.
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>>17294949
Wait, dialogue pictures don't have to fit the default confines?
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>>17294957
The box seems to scale to the picture as long as the dimensions are still within reason.
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>>17294957
Nope, never had to.
Don't go too far though.
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>>17294949
YOU CAN HAVE CARPENTRY AND TAILORING AT THE SAME TIME WHAT I THOUGHT THEY WERE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
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>>17294976
That was a recent change.
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>>17294976
and now all your other pets add their tailoring/carpentry skill levels to the result. long live sweatshops!
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>>17295011
Do you need Soul Mate on the secondary pets?
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Here's progress so far 20~30 minutes. It's traced but I haven't gotten into shading and adjusting the palette yet, which is the best part of pixel art, so this is a relatively rough draft.

Let me know what you think so far.

Also I was speed painting to see how rusty I've gotten over 5+ years of inactivity. It's a good feeling.
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every fridey night here on /jp/ at 2 AM
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>>17295019
not sure, better check changelogs.
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>>17295022
Instantly recognizable. correctly sized and cute as a button.
A shame I don't have one evolved on hand to test it in game.I'm satisfied with your interpretation. We'll have to see if it is jarring in game.

It will inevitably be yougersisterized by that one guy, though, you better be warned.
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Was getting Tailoring + Carpentry pet crafts at the same time added in 1.69? That's tempting but I still can't afford to lose my only real source of income by updating.
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>>17295061
It's very jarring as it is right now because the outlines are fully black and unsmoothed (no antialiasing) which will have to be done manually, which takes alot of time, and the shading isn't done and like I said the palette is just eyedropped but when it's done it should look much more in-place. I can tell right off the bat Elona uses low-saturation colors so it's soft on the eyes, I may just pull the palettes off the original NPCs and use them. An advantage of pulling palettes and tracing is the speed, as you can see.

One day I'll do youngersisterized things myself. I've always had trouble conceptualizing my own completely original drawings. I'm that person that knows how to color more than putting out their ideas on paper. I was quite proud of my ability in coloring back when though, I even put out tutorials and took comissions. Thanks for your feedback!
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What's the little blue shield on the bottom left of my pet above their HP bar mean?
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>>17295112
They're in defend mode and won't attack enemies.
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>>17295022
that's so adorable that i'm gonna get a bubble bobble pet
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>>17295105
A couple of tips for you:
Elona uses pure black (#000000) for transparency, so be sure anything that's black is slightly off (e.g. #010101).
Also, 48*48 is an entire tile. It can look kind of weird if your small pet is drawn bigger than you. (I ended up shrinking my Pokemon down to about half their previous size after seeing them in-game.)
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>>17295136
You can always give them one of the double-sized sprite slots though.
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Do crystals count as ore offerings for Opatos?
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>>17295136
Excellent info, thanks!

>>17295148
What are the specs on those? 48 x 96?
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>>17295164
i think you can but why would u
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>>17295124
Thanks, what about the yellow bar under the hp bar? They really should give stethoscope it's own page on the wiki with a legend.
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>>17295196
I've only been carrying around 1 of each for quests. They're cheap and easy to get and I save them up along with other ores and junk stones in my house so I have about a 30 of each now.
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>>17295168
Right, 48 width, 96 height; for giants and such.
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>>17295168
I think so. It's basically just two regular sprites, one on top of the other.
For pets I just use the custom slots in the main sprite sheet.

>>17295199
That's their "gauge" bar. When it fills completely they'll use a super attack.
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>>17294451
Use leold to reduce frequency of movement to 70-30%.
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>>17295136
In this case, though, the evolved bubble is that tall on the untouched character sheet
>>17295219
>I just use the custom slots in the main sprite sheet.
.Why?
You're supposed to drop the bmp in the user/graphic folder for custom npc
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>>17295240
Because it works just as well and I never really knew about that method.
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Can I use love potions to get more gold from NPC sex? Throwing it at them makes them hostile.
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>>17294707
All members of the metal race have the metal bit, which reduces physical damage by 90%, but only karata have both metal and reselem.
It is worth mentioning some monsters like cube have reselem too, after all physical damage is way easier to protect against than straight up immunity to so many elements.
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>>17295253
What's love got to do with it?
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>>17295022
I just had the idea to make an edit of this with a little sister poking her head out of it's mouth as if it were a costume.

But if I'm going to try that hard on something I'd rather it be for a popular pet or PC.
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>>17295260
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>>17295371
SLIMES ARE BECOMING VERY POPULAR I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW
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Do any hydra exist other then the Nine Head Dragon the abyss? Cause its going to be a LOOOOOONG time before I can even try to get that one.
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Is giving my pet the Rail Gun (or any other weapon that invokes AoE) a good idea? She has 40 something ranks in magic control.

And do the extra melee attacks on the Gemini trigger if it's on the ranged slot? I ask since it had the attribute for both melee and ranged extra attacks and I'm not sure if I get both or just the one that corresponds to the slot it's on.
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what does "x could not endure" mean?
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>>17295391
?
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>>17295419
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:16111
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dubs decides
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>>17295424
thanks

and extra thanks for whoever taught me about whips now I'm not afraid of wells and got >>17295432
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>>17295432
Get a core.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Shift_cores
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>>17295432
death
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>>17295432
secretchar
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>>17295417
Anf to add to this, what's a good way to farm broke vases for cheese making besides random maps on the overworld. Have hundreds of bottles of milk and getting that many vases will take me forever.

>>17295432
Opathos.
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>>17295437
>whips now I'm not afraid of wells
If your pet drinks from a well and a wish triggers, you get to make the wish.
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>>17295454
I just really didn't like dealing with chestbusters and them falling in 100% of the time.

>>17295448
What's this?

>>17295442
Thinking Alpha or a replacement seven leagues boots. Leaning towards the boots.
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>>17295448
Doesn't that only work after completing the related quest?
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So I just read a bunch of ally scrolls and I have red putit, hand of dead, rabbit, and acid slime.

Is it possible to make 3 separate ranches for the first 3 and is there any use in the slime? Wouldn't it's attacks cause acid damage to all my stuff as well?
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>>17295511
You can have multiple ranches, yes. I have one ranch for putits and another ranch for hands myself. Keep in mind that monsters on a ranch count against your party limit, though.
The slime would probably only be dangerous to you if you (or any of your pets) didn't have Float (to fly over the acid puddles it'd create).
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So I found an adventurer with a 24 speed ring that I want but I'm out of duel gloves. Would attacking and killing them make their entire inventory reset? Or should I throw love potions all over the floor and make them walk in them and then hire them and take their stuff?
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>>17295552
recruit them* I mean, not hire.
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>>17295552
Trade them the Ether Dagger for it and then go kill Larnneire again to get another one.
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>>17295567
I haven't gotten into doing party quests but I'll look into starting them I guess. Would <Ragnarok> work?
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>>17295552
Unless the speed ring is an artifact, the only way to get it for certain is exchanging it.
But, it's a ring anon ! Those things are easy to pickpocket, do that instead !
If you do pickpocket, be sure to remove any pet and to have a source of incognity to reset his hostility after each failed attempt.
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>>17295552
If you kill them it MIGHT drop but it's not guaranteed. If it's not miracle or god tier they might replace it eventually but that's unlikely since it's a speed ring and I can imagine them finding something much better. You can always stalk adventurers with the informer anyway.

>>17295417 here
Guess I'll do a test run, see how it goes.
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>>17295579
>remove any pet
To keep them from attacking? You can just switch them from "Onslaught" to "Defense" and they won't attack. Saves time (and the bartender's 100 GP fee).
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>>17295579
It's miracle artifact. I haven't gotten into pickpocket either.

Thanks I'll pick up both skills for the future and just wait until I run into her again I think? What about the love potions?
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>>17295417
If the control magic is fine on either you or your pets and you have good resists you shouldn't worry about being caught up in any AOE used by your pets. The Gemini equipped in your shoot slot will give you a chance to throw out more than one melee attack.
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>>17295629
Well when I fought the boss ironically the only one that got wrecked by the chaos balls was the girl now using the rail gun. You're right, so far nobody on my team have been hurt by the evoked balls except my nerves each time I see the spell. Guess I'll get used to it.
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>>17289310
Updated pastebins.

>>17289356
I guess you'll have to wait until the imouto guy is around. You can make do with version 6 for now.
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Fuck I found a silver cat in the labyrinth and I'm out of balls. Will it stick around or will it despawn when I change floors?
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>>17295703
Lesimas?
Lesimas is a static dungeon, nothing ever disappears there. Silver cats can get killed by monsters though, so I would leave ASAP if you want to catch it later.
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>>17295707
Minotaur's Nest.
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>>17295717
I think that place is static as well. Same advice applies.
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>>17295707
Wouldn't it stay in a random dungeon too? The problem would be that the dungeon itself could despawn.
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>>17295732
Well yes, but there's no danger of that for static dungeons.
In any event, the greatest danger is that something kills the cat on your way out or trying to find it again.
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>>17295720
Thanks.
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I'm almost at 4700 favor, how should I go about doing this to get the 3rd and 4th gifts?
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>>17295844
1. Visit the Truce Ground in month 11 and pray for your gift there, which will also summon your god.
2. Wish for your god.
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Should I be limiting myself to a specific type of firearm for my bells or just give them whatever has good stats?

>>17295854
danke
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Just picked up an another heart off the ground.
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>>17295880
Ever since the rare drop update I've had more evolution hearts than I know what to do with.
And I still need a god heart.
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How do you change gods? Do you have to be at an unclaimed altar and renounce?
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Aaaah, so that's what it was !!
I didn't understood why my pet was using the custom AI inside the pet arena but not outside : the attack mode need to be onslaught, it can't be defender or leash.
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>>17296003
Go to the truce grounds and pray at an altar of a god you want to change to.
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>>17296097
thanks very much.
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So I just got the Gaia hammer, should I replace my Axe of Destruction with it? I had been focusing on STR and Axe which are 145 and 74 respectively so I don't think I'd be losing much.
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Is there a use for the Aureate Constricter past the 50 PV?
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>>17296184
On that note should I wear the axe on range for the +750 crit?
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>>17296223
you spend less gold to level negotiation when its worn. dunno about stealth component
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>>17296245
Well that stinks. My negotiation is already effectively capped at 100 and it's not like it's a hard skill to train.

Should've gotten the Earth Fetter instead.
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>>17296245
and thanks.
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>>17296249
shopkeeper training maybe, never tried following this god desu, not into fat birds.
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I've been a bad girl.
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Is there any way to keep reEle bitflag on golden bell after recruiting? Would ALP be of any help?
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>>17296409
Whats your tileset mod name? It fits so well that it took me some time to realise why this pic looks so good.
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Flying Spaghetti Monster INI 2464/250

Hermit Crab INI 215/61

Snail INI 271/25

Caterpillar INI 389/99
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>>17296477
I recognize that pcc, he mentionned using a chinese pack a few thred ago, if I recall correctly.
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>>17296477
I butcher various sprites and tiles I find and change them to my liking.
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14 days of etherwind. Lulwy please.
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What do you guys recommend I spend small medals on? Besides sisters.
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>>17296555
I was thinking a Garok's hammer on my non-artifact 26 speed ring. Wiki say's they're reduced from 97 to 47 medals in E+. I have 87 medals.
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>>17296564
Or a void license? I already have a tax box and seven leagues boots.
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>>17296555
Don't use them on sisters ever, if you start doing dungeons regularly you will be swimming in those books. Early on I get the helmet, sword and tonfa, bottles of water and maybe a tax box. Then it's best to start saving for your void license.
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>>17296585
I went with the void license, thanks.
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>>17296579
I'd definitely save for a void license. AP is key to success and the Void is the best place to grind for it (and experience).
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>>17296585
Someone doesn't like sisters.
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>>17296594
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>>17296516
Oh shit.
Dear anon, may i ask you to share that awesome tileset with this lowly peasant? I've tried several tilesets and they made my eyes bleed here and there, unlike yours.
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>>17296555
The void license is the only must-have, with the element eyes if you're going TATATATATA.
Anything else is as you wish.

Personally i only care about hermes blood though.
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>>17296539
gotta eradicate those Meshera cells you know
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>>17296649
Sure. Don't forget to name it to map1.

https://files.catbox.moe/xmqg1u.bmp
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WHAT. WHERE'D MY SHIT GO
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>>17296728
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>>17296710
Thank you.
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Fucking hell thank god I bought an upstairs when I bought the downstairs. It autosaved when I went downstairs and if I hadn't have had an upstairs I think I would've been fucked since walking off the map didn't work.
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>>17296743
Oh but they did give me a free tight rope on the downstairs.
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>>17296743
>>17296746
Wouldn't be that much of a big deal anyway. You could've hanged yourself with the rope or starved to death. The items are safe if you die in your house.
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>>17296728
The fuck did you do anon?
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>>17296750
After dropping a lot of food on the ground for my pets, I was at my house's item limit. My fairy ate first and shat out multiple seeds, which made the number of items go *over* the limit. Then all the food I laid down and possibly some things I haven't noticed yet got deleted. This is the first time I've seen this and I've been playing for years
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>>17296710
Actually i should ask for sprite pack as well, vanilla ones are too blurry in comparison after all.
If its not too much of a hassle to share the result of your hard work could you, please, upload sprites or whole folder with your custom stuff too?
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HOLY SHIT
YOU CAN TRACK PETS' SKILLS
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>>17296771
SHIEEEEEET
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When should I eat corpses for the stat benefits? When said stat isn't (Hopeless) I'm assuming?
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>>17296764
Here you go. I'm playing on a older version and I combined my sprites with the vanilla one from 1.69 so there are probably a few vanilla ones in there.

character
https://files.catbox.moe/opanvt.bmp
item
https://files.catbox.moe/0jd62i.bmp
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>>17296796
Thanks again, Anon.
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>>17296777
depends. i urge you to spend some time on wikia\food page since its a bit complicated
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>>17296810
no problem
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Found a Panzerfaust X

Nukes imminent.
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Anyone else hate having to play Pokemon for the gene machine?
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>>17296887
It's just five of em, can just knockout 5 putits from your ranch and finish it in five minutes.
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...
...
I refurnished my shop four times, always anoyed there was a rod unsold.
Always the same, but i left it at the RNG weirdness.
...

It is a wish wand.
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>>17296953
Smart guy.
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>>17296932
I don't know what specifically he's talking about if you're just starting Elona and struggling with the quest it's easier to throw chestnuts at hermit crabs in the woods near Port, let them bleed ~10 turns and then catch them.
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does luck affect reading blessed wonder scrolls?
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Should I be crafting my pokeballs in the level 666 dungeon?
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>>17297152
No.
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>>17297152
http://codepad.org/rSGtFQ9b
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>>17297181
There's a monster ball vendor in South Tyris who sells them up to a power level of 200.
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Elin
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>>17294396
Elin
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>>17293713
Will there be adventurers though?
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>>17297195
>http://codepad.org/rSGtFQ9b
oh sick
>>17297188
thank you also
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>>17297217
I hope so. Elona without fellow adventurers would be pretty lonely.
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>>17297227
Even if they are bots.
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how come years after i've beaten all the bosses my daughter has to beat them again
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>>17297401
They got better.
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>>17297401
They're from alternate timelines that time leaped back.
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>>17297227
But isn't this game more of a rune factory game than an rpg?
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I know this is a newfag question to aks but I couldn't find a satisfying awnser on the wiki.
How do I set a pet to manage a museum?
It's a mad scientist I'm hoping to set if that is relevant
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>>17297887
Museums do not require management.
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>>17297887
cast summon monster
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>>17297897
thanks

>>17297899
why don't you go watch some bocu no picu
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>>17296728
It means that all item slots on this map are filled. You cannot drop items here voluntary and if added forcibly (item-giving events, pot for fusion, opening chests etc.) then newcomers will randomly destroy some existing items in order to claim an item slot for themselves. Solution: move some junk to other map and mind item limits (400 stacks on most maps).
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Elona should get Disgaea's Item World. The marks next to some bonuses are from an old idea for artifact fusion, right? Those could be Specialists.
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Anorexia has to be the worst condition in this game. Everything came to a screeching halt. I'm only running circles to keep myself from starving to death. In Palmia I molest the fruit trees, steal them and then check the board for challenge and panic quests to get more fruits from the two trees. Then I travel to Yowyn and steal all their crops, fondle their fruit trees, steal them and again check the board for the aforementioned quests. Here I cast return to Lesimas, read a scroll of escape and make my way to Vernis, where I do the exact same thing. Then I cast return to my home and check my vegetable farm for more stuff to make juice. It was a support for my food shop, just like the twentysomething fruit trees in said shop, but now they're only there to feed me juice. From here on I pass time and try to find some more fruit trees, chestnuts, api nuts, healthy leafs and wild plants for MORE JUICE till the cites reset and I can start the fun all over again. If only this dumb juice would be more filling or if one could use the crops from harvest quests to make more juice. Juice, juice, juice.
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Just got my first lucky day in like 100 hours but I've got no materials for crafting and only a small number of gain material scrolls to bless and read. Why does the game steadfastly refuse to give me any leather or veins? Guess there's nothing to do but gamble then.
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>>17298928
Acorn juice from any forest dun? You get tons of acorns here and can get som freebie luck/mining xp while you are at it.
Wait..i never actually tried making the juice out of acorns.
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I had chat working in the past but after upgrading to a 1.68 I was getting [0]You require an internet connection. I fixed it by copying the server.txt file from 1.66. This worked despite the two files having identical contents. Initially the nonworking identical file contained a space before the url. This combined with the fact many (all?) people need to delete server.txt to get chat working at all, I'm inclined to believe the game caches the contents of server.txt and only refreshes when a new file is detected for some reason.
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>>17298528
Can't you just live in Noyel and eat snow for a while?
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>>17298940
Raid dungeons when your clock is surrounded by fire, endless stream of resource spots.
You can try your luck with Garock's hammer btw
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>>17298959
Quoted the wrong post, meant to quote this >>17298928
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>>17298947
Damn. I forgot about these. I have a small stack of them lying in my home. I planned to redistribute them over my home for decoration, but I forgot about them. And yes you can make juice out of them. Thanks.

>>17298959
>>17298978
I tried that, but my hunger comes back at a faster rate than my stamina regenerates. Why does it take 10 stamina to pick up a snowball anyway.
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Will i get martial arts multi-hit with zero hands slots on my pet? Does lack of hands have any disadvantages for no-tonfa/shield MA focused pet in general?

Or is it better to just curse flying scrolls for some crazy-heavy weapon with big base damage and get one hand for it? I'm curious about endgame void raiding potential mostly.
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>>17298986
It also trains magic device so they had to nerf it.

It's not ideal but eating at an inn will give significantly more satiation than you lose to the vomiting. If actually starving is the concern that should be enough to last a while.

>>17298957
is server.txt supposed to contain anything other than HTTP error statuses? I've seen people talk about putting values in there like it's a config file but I only ever have error text.
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>>17298986
Can you drink milk for nutrition when anorexic? I get hundreds of bottles from my ranches
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Younger sister needs to stop leaving her diary everywhere and start cleaning up after herself. Every single floor of the void I find at least 1 of of her diaries. Don't like it because the book coloring is the same as the spellbook of wish in my game. I'm not summoning another younger sister! The very pervy H sister is quite a handful already.

>>17298998
No hand pets have gaze attacks the last I read. They do take advantage of MA and can be capable of 8 gaze attacks assuming you stack additional attack chance. Don't really think the lack of hands is a permanent hindrance if going MA. Might have a harder time earlier on since tonfas/claws help buff damage earlier on and can possibly provide resists and other neat things but the endgame martial artist won't have anything equipped in his hand slots which is like having no hands at all in a way. Nothing really comes to mind in why a no hand MA pet would have more difficulties in the void compared to another pet.
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>>17299160
Drinking milk works too. Store the milk for the day when anorexia strikes you. But I have to say, acorn mining works really well. I get around 100 acorns per floor with some golden acorns and four leaf clovers.
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>>17299006
by default the game on startup tries to retrieve a txt file with the server url in it from a site that noa used to own, but now it's defunct so it retrieves a 404 message in japanese
to enable chat server.txt needs to contain this
elochat-proxy.shiroko.yi.org%elona.squares.net%
and the server list line in config.txt needs to be updated
serverList. "1" 0=auto retrieve 1=disable auto retrieve
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>>17299199
Oh i see your two hand skil is sufficiently high. Could you, please, tell anything about maximum damage multiplier at this level and how heavy weapon should be for that?
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>>17299199
that's fucking insane
I can have a handless pet and give it extra heads or w/e and get the same damage as if it had empty hands MA but utilize the two slots somewhere else? Though I suppose it is more an issue with unarmed itself. Clearly armed MA [i]should[/i] be better than unarmed MA.
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>>17299199
And thanks for the MA info. Damage is actually a bad stat in the first place for rapid MA training, I usually teach my pet healing touch with E+C tactics and make it heal training dummy in pet arena when its low on hp after a few punches.
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>>17299346
how's the breed rate on indigo lobster?
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>>17299346
>100s each
What the fuck? How big are these lobsters?
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>>17299361
Pretty decent. I got one through shades from Pascal. For those who don't know, Pascal is a level 65 unique dog that joins you when defeated. She has 216 breeding power and only produces shades. That means that you'll randomly get shades of any creature of around that level or lower, which you can put in a ranch to get more of the actual creature. I got a variety of monsters that way without having to put in effort to catch them, although it is hard to tell what shade is what kind of creature.
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>>17299212
Not sure if it's still not working, if it no one is just talking. It's not telling me I need an internet connection anymore.

If anyone else gets this particular error message though, with the odd kana in front, the solution is to re-save the file as ANSI, not UTF-8
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>>17299421
yeah i did not take pascal nfortunately but shade ranching is too exhausting for my idiot brain. i've seen a billion of those bg ol lobsters but i didnt think about their excrement. I made a cloud beast ranch because 100s excrement and good shit for gene engineering but with 25 breed power it was a bad plan
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>>17299521
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Pascal
>Pascal is an exception to the normal rules. As this NPC can join you multiple times. (Observed in Elona+ 1.10)
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>>17299521
Well I picked the lobster at random, really. Can't do much with 100s shit except sell it for a measly 6k, and it doesn't make better fertilizer either. I use the lobsters to teach swimming and instantly boost pets to lv65, and the heavy corpses make good sacrifices. The way I find out what shade is what is checking the junk they produce, which will be named ''shit/egg/milk of (creature)''. Look up the creature, check the levels of your shades with the move livestock option, and you'll be able to tell which is what most of the time by their level. Then move the one you want next to you, add to the party/put in another ranch whatever.
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>>17299381
not sure about lobster, need other anon to give their height. cloud beasts produce 100s shits and they are also pretty big...

for reference


>>17299549
sick. i'll have to try that at some point.
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>>17299573
for me cloud beast shits sell for 17k, not sure why the discrepancy
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>>17299578
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>>17299592
11m tall but takes cloud size shits? or does a cloud take lobster sized shits.
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>>17299584
>>17299613
100s seems to be the upper limit for shit weight, but the value probably keeps increasing as the monster gets bigger+stronger(?).
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>>17299613
The lobsters shit could be very dense. Like lead or tungsten.
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>>17299503
hit / and tab tab to see the log, if you see stuff there it's working
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help

I renamed the PCC to "pcc_body_3" and put it in >graphic>PCCs. Tried putting it in just >graphic and it didn't come up at all. Everything in both Appearance menus is set to "0" except body which I put to "3" only because the mod showed up.

Put the portrait in >graphics named as "face3" but I only see u40~40 for portraits available for selection.
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>>17299627
so if i increase ehekatl's weight...
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>>17299656
Are they .bmp?
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>>17299670
Yes
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>>17299613
>>17299627
It might depend on monster "rarity?"
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>>17299679
I think the problem might be that portraits should go in user/graphic, not the main graphic folder.
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>>17299656
You can use dressers to get rid of the armor overlapping your sprite, there are multiple in Palmia.
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>>17299687
time to become a rare shit collector and curator
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>>17299699
You got it, works like a charm thanks.
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>>17299710
Thank you kindly.
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>>17299627
>>17299712
How valuable would Shenas shit be after increasing her height and weight?
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>>17299710
Well I'm at the dresser both big and small ones and nothing happens when I try to use or interact with them.
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>>17299726
To find out, we should feed an astral copy of her blessed milk and livestock feed until she's 10km tall and weighs several hundred thousand tons.
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Is it worth inducing a food lucky day to use treasure maps/balls or should I just be patient?
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>>17299747
It should bring up this menu.
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>>17299754
Don't forget to have her take the shit inside a 4D mirror within another 4D mirror for a 16^D shit.
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>>17299760
Standing in the exact spot you are, it's not coming up on my Use menu. I tried dropping some 4-D mirrors I was carrying around and I can't use them either while standing on them.
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>>17299760
Holy shit I almost died from carrying around all that shit
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>>17299792
The 4-D mirrors work if I'm carrying them though*
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>>17299792
Nothing shows up when you press enter? That's really odd. Did you check all the pages of usable items?
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>>17299793
Turns out moon gates don't have "It's not yours" protection on them so my first death ever was accidentally picking one up while trying to interact with it and exploding instantly.

On that note are moon gates still broken? I have the chat server working.
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>>17299800
Moongates still ded, chat server guy said ''might be done in the future when I have time''
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>>17299799
I triple checked, only the furniture in my inventory are there aside from the usual junk. Dropping them doesn't let me use them either, but I used to sleep on beds lying around town before I got a bed of my own,
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Anon from awhile ago that hasn't played in years.

So I've pretty much set up everything I need/matching with what I had in the past, going to be using the Elona+ custom and was wondering if someone can be bothered enough to drop me some starter guidelines.
Mainly:
1 If there are any major changes different from 2012-2014 to today?
2 Classes now have additional buffs? Wouldn't Farmer now be a fairly effective combatant with 2/7 change to decapitate? Predators and Archers get 10% crit and hit chance so that all kinda steers away from JackofallTrades characters early on I usually went for.
3 There's a short story you can choose at start, does that matter much besides RP shenanigans or does it actually affect the game anyhow(Apparently I was a god and now I'm a slut on the test character)?
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>>17299726
>>17299754
someone get on this
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>>17299823
This might be a bug of some kind, you should be able to use any item lying on the tile you're standing on. What version are you running? Do you have anything enabled that might mess with items that show up like E+C filters?
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>>17299827
farmer is one of the best classes and you can change your class later with a special item from playing blackjack

>>17299810
this is why i put a paperwork moongate in my house
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>>17299827
>Apparently I was a god and now I'm a slut on the test character
Your test character was Yacatect?
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>>17299827
Off the top of my head: shops are less profitable, pet bells were nerfed, there are more pot of fusion recipes, you can milk animals on a ranch, and multiple pets that can cook/craft for you will all work together. There are dozens of other things; the wiki has the changelogs.
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>>17299839
I'm running 1.68+ that was in the sticky. Only things I've messed with are in the graphics folder. Should I update to a clean 1.69? If I do how do I go about keeping my save.
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>>17299827
>There's a short story you can choose at start, does that matter much besides RP shenanigans
No, and you don't have to have one if you don't want it.
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>>17299859
Updating is just a matter of unpacking the new version in your folder, in fact I just updated from 1.66 to 1.69. You will not lose your save. Do make a backup through, because there is still a slim chance something will get fucked up. And always save in a static place like your home before updating.
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>>17299872
Thanks I'm going to take a 100s shit and tell you if it fixes.
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>>17299848
>farmer is one of the best classes and you can change your class later with a special item from playing blackjack
Perfect, always loved going Farmer even when I just started regardless of losing characters in droves, and being able to change it later on is even better.
>>17299855
Even had a following, guess my booty game was just that good.
>>17299857
I've tried going through the change logs but honestly by head starts to forget how to read past the first 5 to 6 of them.
>>17299861
Thanks a lot.

Now to roll for a proper nick, stats and gear for hours like an ass.
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>>17299893
The only thing you should really think about is race and the innate bonus that comes with it, since you can change pretty much everything else later ingame.
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In other news: Fuck Greenpeace.
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Alright I'm back from the shit that turned out only to be a 0.5s with fire damage but updating to 1.69 fixed the bug for whatever reason.

Thanks!

Also rate my goose.
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>>17299916
What do those do?
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>>17299907
Well generally speaking my favorite was Golem or Dwarf('bout 90% of characters), despite some quackery back in the day of going a Farmer golem route.
Only other things I ever did were so rare that I remember them even now, Lich wizards(Elea wiz never went right for me for some reason) or Juere claymore/thief/pianist.
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>>17299962
Help me survive anorexia.
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>>17299957
imoutof 10
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Everynow and then when I attack I get this little ding sound and a blue pic related goes over my head. Could I get an explaination please?
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>>17299957
That's a duck.
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>>17299993
That's AP. You want that like a cumdumpster wants dicks.
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>>17299993
it means you're winning
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>>17299993
You are getting younger sister points, when you reach 100 you get one free pair of panties
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Is it worthwhile to train up other weapon skills by equiping very weak weapons and trying to draw out fights? Or are the stat gains not worth it?
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>>17299250
Two hand style only gets up to 4 attacks in a single turn however that extra damage multiplier from the two hand skill is significant. My damage multiplier with my skills at the moment, MA x154, dual wield x155, and two hand x265.

In picture one I'm using a living spear I crafted through carpentry. Stats for the spear are in picture 3. Used all the levels of the living weapon on magic damage. The damage I got was 323,715. For picture 2 I was using the Pile Driver. Stats for the Pile Driver are found in picture 4. Total damage was 316,699. Monsters I attacked with the polearms all have cap armor skill levels and capped attributes.

The damage so far is pretty good with two hand and I still have room for the damage to increase. My two hand skill is roughly 1k so I have another 1k to build up my damage multiplier. I'm currently using polearms to train my constitution and I'm doing fine in killing stuff down in the void with the spears I've crafted.

Despite the huge damage dice found on the Pile Driver, 1d150, compared to my living spear I crafted, 3d15, the crafted living spear did more damage. The reason for this is due to all that magic damage I crammed onto the crafted living spear. This surprised me a bit and I guess I should swap out my pet witch's Pile Driver for a living spear.

Two hand weapons generally are supposed to be heavier than dual wield weapons. The log will tell you if a weapon is heavy enough to be a good fit for two hand. Following what the log was saying, I used an adamantium material kit on the living spear to increase its damage dice and for it to be considered heavy enough for two hand. In this case the spear's weight turned out to be 9.0s. Ether gives good damage dice but lightens weapons from what I can see. After applying the adamantium material kit I used a craft repair kit to maximize the damage dice. After I finished leveling the spear, I then hardened it to +10 with the blacksmith and blessed it.
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>>17300113
>Lv6648
Is this normal?
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>>17300155
No, this is Kai.
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>>17300112
Well for me I'm either playing to train or I'm playing to kill. For grinding out skills and attributes it's better to draw out fights by doing barely any damage to the enemy. If you're just there to loot, kill, and conquer, you grab the biggest and baddest weapon you can find or use whatever skill or spell is biggest or baddest and go to town killing enemies quickly.
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>>17300155
Sort of. There are certain keypoints you need to reach to accelerate your growth, but it seems with every new update of the game you get more stones in your way. Then again, this lad is a special one, as >>17300171 pointed out.
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ok but most important stats

how tall is everyone

174cm here
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>>17300180
Well shit. At the moment I've got an issue where I have 30k Fame but my PC level is only 31. All the other adventurers with 30k are at 70+ already.

I'm guessing this is due mainly to my bells taking all the kills and me not understanding how potential worked until late in. I had just been throwing all my platinum at already capped potential skills.

Also since I realized this I'm saving up gold to take my bells to the doujou to get their skills trained too. I've never taken them there once either. From what I'm reading I take them there, spend a shitton of money and max out their potential to 400%, and go train some more, correct?

Also can someone confirm if 75 charisma is the amount needed for the 15 pet cap?
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>>17300187
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>>17300155
Void and lots of wishing for descent potions and then blessing them is how I got my levels. Wish stock mainly gotten from wish spellbooks found on magic vendors and wonder scrolls. After awhile normal dungeons just don't cut it in leveling a character or pet. Need to do the void or awakened dungeons to fight plenty of monsters that actually scale and give a challenge to level up. The void doesn't have to be an endgame thing either. I started doing the void at lv 30.

Didn't really start cultivating any pets until near the end of Act 2 and they're leveling well despite me taking all the blessed descent potions for myself.All of their levels are now coming from the void as well since normal dungeons don't do anything for them anymore. Saya and Akeno are quickly pushing for 1k in levels but sadly my pet Mai isn't leveling due to her being a healer foremost and backup AOE/melee damage. Since she's a healer she doesn't get exp since she's not killing anything sadly. Might need to fix that later. My archer pet Mina was the last pet I started working on and she's starting to catch up to Mai despite her being the second pet I started working on.
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>>17300258
These "pets" of yours, do they talk to you?
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>>17300204
The bell meta is good for vanilla elona, but not so much for Elona+. They're fine early game, but if you want them to hold their ground and not get killed after one hit in harder dungeons, then you need to improve more than just combat skills, namely basic attributes like life and speed. You can also catch the stronger bells of termination later on, but this will only postpone and amplify the problem.
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>>17300278
I would hope they're able to speak. One of them is supposed to be the wealth goddess.
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>>17300288
Frankly I don't know what to invest in at all. I haven' touched gene engineering and I'm already having pretty bad problems with my bells. They're only really good at speed running weak dungeons at the moment it seems. I'm planning on catching the next Mitra I see but it seems monster ball level crafting scales with player character so I haven't seen any balls past level 35 for the level 37 Asuras. I haven't touched Lesimas either and I don't know whether to invest in Axe or Blunt, I started with axes for the tactician bonus but I got the Gaia hammer immediately after getting the Axe of destruction which I'm just wearing on ranged for crit bonus. No idea what weapon type I should be investing in and if I should continue farming dungeons or craft an elemental weapon or what. Money is really slow too since I'm only bothering with picking up and selling items in my shop.

I did pick up a few Rubynus cloaks for my bells and stockpiled their DV though. But I'm questioning whether I should give them a machine gun or a shotgun and their AI. I'm thinking if it's possible or practical to give bells more equipment slots but I really have no idea what's going on since they have 1 breed power according to wiki.
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>>17300294
The goddess of wealth running a shop, now that's rich.
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>>17300278
They could if they have a talk file. The designation of pet in Elona is interesting but that's the kind of game Elona is.
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fyi if anyone is interested in a pet that has the ability "Smash Ground"

do not do this
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>>17299755
please respond
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>>17300323
now I'm interested
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>>17300330
be patient, real bonus is 777, food bonus 100, statue bonus 77
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>>17300332
its not interesting, wiki says "a melee attack that hits all adjacent enemies" it hits you too

look at this smug asshole

he knows what he did
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>>17300333
Thanks bud
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>>17300342
WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

What if you and your friends float?
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>>17300350
i float, still hits me. doesnt have control magic so i can test that out and be sure, but I don't think it's a breath attack
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>>17300187
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>>17300258
Damn. I haven't had any character get beyond Lv 200 yet your pets are running circles around my entire team. Thanks for the tips though. Good luck with your journey with the void general kai. I'm still hanging out at Lv 50 of the void.
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Noob here, how do I use the performer skill? I have it learned and a pan flute.
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>>17300429
't', select the flute
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>>17300434
Thanks
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>>17289748

Ok. Got the object of heart but when I use it nothing changes.
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>>17300354
ok i gene engineered control magic onto it and it's at almost level 2 now, no traveling skill yet. looks like smash ground counts as a breath attack?? who knew
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>>17300389
how are you a jelly. how do i play as a jelly. why are your stats so crazy. i must be playing this game wrong.
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yeah alright so how do people get stats this insane? all of my stats are in the 100-150 range at Lv70. Does everyone do that thing where you get a cute fairy and make it infinitely barf and then make 90 farms full of herbs? Is that the requirement?
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>>17300461
Blessed potions of potential.
Potions of potential start being stocked in magic vendors around rank 100, rank 150 being better.
You can have 8 magic vendors in your palace.
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>>17300474
I have access to those but I generally only drink them when I'm at Good in all stats or lower. Is that idiotic?
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>>17300478
Well, depends on your stock.
If you have hundreds, yes that's retarded go chug !
If you have less than 10 stocked, not that's good. But please use return more often, remember than vendor stock reset after 48 hours.

And start doing harvest quests/duplicating Kumiromi statues, you need to incorporate herbs in you are diet.
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>>17300316
I would recommend considering your bells to be the means to an end, rather than the end in and of themselves. Their speed is a major boon at the start of the game, but once you complete the first chapter you can just buy speed, and they're pretty flimsy otherwise. If you don't know what to go with, I'd recommend the god pets; they're fairly solid and have unique abilities.
As far as Gene Engineering goes, you want all your pets to have the soft cap of 13 slots. (Any more reduces their speed, which you want to avoid at all costs.) You can get the standard Head/Neck/Body/Back/Hand/Hand/Arm/Waist/Ring/Ring/Leg/Shoot/Ammo by fusing yeeks (which give everything but Hand/Hand/Arm) and hands of the dead (which give those) into your pet. If you need to, you can train Gene Engineering easily by going to Yowyn and fusing lame horses into lame horses.
For weapons, if the Gaia Hammer is working well for you, it's fine to keep using it. You can always switch to something else later on.
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>>17300455

herb horse meat/hand of the dead meat crap ton of blessed potions of potential
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>>17300495
you got it doc, thanks!
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>>17300514
don't herb grand parfaits?
fuck
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>>17300450
Nevermind, fixed it.

>>17300495
>>17300514
Wait, do potions of potential give stat experience? I thought they only raised potentials.
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>>17300553
Potions of potential do only raise potential, but raising potential is a necessary step in actually gaining stat EXP. If everything sits at hopeless, all the herbed herbs in the world won't help.
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>>17300553

need high potential to make use of the herb food exp
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>>17300503
Thank you kindly. A few questions though, what do you mean buy speed? And would the best way of getting pets for engineering ranching? I already have a HoD ranch thankfully. Lastly does it go off of your pet's current level or innate bestiary level? I'd hope I wouldn't need hundreds of levels in gene to upgrade high level pets.
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>>17300575
Well that's misleading, thought I was doing it wrong. Now how does one go about getting multiple statues of kumiromi?
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>>17300258
I'm hearing conflicting info on levels. On one hand I hear that it's not important yet here you are with levels in the thousands. Why is this?
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>>17300589
You kill Big Daddies roaming around dungeon floors. They'll drop Little Sisters. You capture them using Little Balls, which you can get from an NPC in the Cyber Dome, and return the sisters to the same NPC. That NPC lets you get copies of artifacts you've identified at breakpoints of sister turn ins. 1, 3, 6, 10, 15, etc. until it's 10 sisters per reward.
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>>17300553
I've been getting good results investing in every magic vendor I frequent ~lv100 and buying up potential pots whenever I see them. I'm waiting for a deed of palace and then going to hire a shitton of magic vendors. I had no idea how potential worked until a week ago but I already have more stat potential than I know what to do with. I've been struggling more on finding food, combat training, and rods of fire wall (for blessing stacks of potential pots).

Also if you haven't been the guild trainer is really useful when he comes by your house.
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>tfw ate two little sisters before finding out eating them makes less Big D's spawn in the future
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>>17300585
>what do you mean buy speed
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/AP
>And would the best way of getting pets for engineering ranching
If you want a yeek, they're easy to find in the puppy cave. If you have the Knockout feat, you can use that, otherwise you could throw chestnuts or poison potions or something to weaken it for a monster ball. Use the Directive ability or a command flag to change your pets from "Onslaught" to "Defense" first so they won't kill it.
>does it go off of your pet's current level or innate bestiary level
I'm fairly certain I remember needing to train my Gene Engineer higher after a pet of mine leveled, so I think it's current level.
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>>17300619
Thank you very much again.

Sounds like I really need to get that main quest done.
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>>17300611
rods of firewall are easy with goods vendors, i get 1-3 per restock at rank 200 but i see them as low as rank 10. generally costs 1k-2k a pop
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>Got that lucky day I was asking about
>On the way to the treasure

FUCK
U
C
K
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>>17300600
Well levels are pretty important to my character but the reasoning for it is a bit different. I'll get into that in a bit but I think it should be noted that the thoughts and attributes we associate with high level in Elona is different than your standard RPG.

In a standard RPG, when you look at something's level, you can often make the assumption, and be right, that that character or monster is strong if it has a high level because along with high level, attributes will likely be high, and their gear will be high tier as well.

Elona is different though. Just because something has a high level, doesn't necessarily mean everything else about them is high. Likewise, if you see something low level, that doesn't necessarily mean its attributes are low and their gear is shit. Level in Elona is kind of it's own entity and is just one variable of a greater equation that measures power. You need to look at attributes, skills, possibly spell levels, and gear to also assess power instead of just looking at level.

My character Kai has a lot of levels and I value levels because as you level you get more HP and MP. It also gives you bonus points and earlier on you can get feats through leveling. Bonus points from leveling is also a big thing for me as I can level bomb through wishes. From one spellbook of wish I can pull 50 or more wishes which I can use on 50 or more blessed descent potions to get 50 or so levels. I normally store up a couple of spellbooks of wish before reading them and a level bomb for me normally consists of gaining around 200 levels. Each level gives you 5 bonus points or more if you're like a Yerles. Since I'm a Eulderna I get like 1000 bonus points from 200 levels to spend on any skill I want to level.

So levels are good for increasing HP and MP for survival and leveling skills through bonus points but HP and MP is just one variable in the power equation. I need to level up attributes, spell levels, skills, get good gear, etc to actually be powerful. Levels alone will not kill my enemies but it helps me survive against them.
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>>17300683
kai is so advanced
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It took me this long but I got her finally by hiding chestnuts in my cooler.

Also I savescummed like fuck but for some reason one of the treasure maps I have reset everytime I relaunched client which is what caused the delay.
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>>17300758
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>>17300187
my character started out tall but really, really likes those soups of wonderland

holy shit what happened to her weight tho
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Fucking hell no one told me I'd be playing blackjack for an hour.

I think I acquired an actual gambling addiction holy shit.
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>>17300613
you think that's bad
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Is it possible for a PC or pets to learn shadow step?
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>>17300959
Yes to both.
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>>17300964
I see something about it on the feats page under uncontrollable power, it says "If buffed, executes Shadow Step + Swarm.", is that it?
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>>17300979
No.
Players get Shadow Step automatically by having 30+ Stealth skill and then leveling up.
Pets can get Shadow Step by purchasing the "Tactical Attack" AP ability set, or (in Elona Custom) by teaching them the ability yourself.
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>>17300985
Thanks
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Why is my clock on fire. Is it time to burn?
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>>17301009
Dungeons are in fever mode right now so you'll want to do as much dungeon crawling as you can manage before the event is over.
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>>17301012
oh shit thanks
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>>17301012
Where can I read about this on the wiki?
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>>17301030
the changelog.
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>>17300187
Currently a 72cm/3kg fairy and just realized that cursed milk shrinks me. Time to drink all that cursed milk slowly to avoid anorexia
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>>17301032
thank you
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Welp, ran into <Murder Knight> before I could put my little sisters in the doujou for storage.

Goodbye, Shimakaze-kun (male).
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Should I feel bad about giving Pael my cursed cure corruption pots?
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>>17301386
?
What does "feel bad" means ?
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>>17301390
Like when you help her commit suicide or sell her off to that fire giant fetishist?
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>>17301394
Hey. Size is a god-tier fetish.
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>>17300113
Thanks for the response. I'm still cur
rious about
weight par
t for twohand. will you get higher damage/crit multiplier with cursed flying scrolls used on weapon to boost it to, say, 50s? 500s? 1x Shena's ass mass value?
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An old healer adventurer dude had this.
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>>17300545

horse meat = con boost

hand of the dead = str boost
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>>17301416
vore is shit-tier tho
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How do you train performer skill at low levels? Not even the beggars or old people are impressed.
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>>17301788
Grab yourself as much as food as you can carry and a rod of summon monster and teleport. Make your way to the younger sister mansion and zap that rod next to the younger sister in the house. She will summon countless low level younger sisters to fight monsters. Once you have a sufficient audience teleport the initial younger sister away since she is higher level and will throw rocks at you. Perform to the imoutos.
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>>17301805
Based imoutos.
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Fucking hell out of nowhere my save files got corrupted and gave me a "spells.s1 not found" error but I made a new character and copy pasted the old save files over it and I'm back, albeit I lost all my spells.
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Of course. Right after I've cleared another forest dungeon and stockpiled almost 1200 acorn juices.
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Wilfred, plz.
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>>17301886
Eating disorders are serious man.
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>>17301894
I saw a guy in jail through the informer before.
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>>17300683
Why would you use bonus points on wish? Doesn't that make it harder to cast?
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>>17302017
He doesn't.
He casts wish to get potions of descent, and through that gains the levels that grants him those bonus points, and uses those points to train whatever skills he needs at that point in time.
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update: if you want a pet with the Smash Ground spaction

give it control magic
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>>17292999
Still no sign of slowing down.
I have taken a fancy in capping magic capacity, but this is exploding casting too.

If brainwashed then move away seems to be working, he was brainwashed during a panic quest, repeatedly, and never minced me like he easily could have.
Still a little uneasy having such a monster at my sides.
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If you dominate a monster that had the split bitflag do they keep that ability as a pet?
And if so are the splits loyal to you? Or would they be neutral/aggressive?
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>>17300207
Hey! This guy is a phony. I'm the real Chocola
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>>17302323
>completely cat
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>>17302279
yes (supposedly, never seen it happen), neutral
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>>17302323
>all potentials bad
>twice my stats at same level

this is gonna take a lot of herbs to fix
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>>17302323
>nine armed Chocola
Itzpalt get the meteor.
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>>17302323
>>17300207
You both faggots playing on overdose
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>>17302402
Yeah I do, ain't even going to justify it.

>>17302352
Nah, I just play on overdose.
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Uhhhh, just got a wild thought : does ores sold in your shop sometimes get changed into small medals ?
No because each harvest i get a metric fuckton of ore that i just shovel in the ass of my magic vendors...
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>>17302375
I thought it was impossible to get more than 8 attacks per turn?
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>>17302416
It is impossible, to my knowledge.
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>True Fortunes
>Better tools give you better results for your skills. Better beds give you better dreams if you sleep in them.
I knew that about beds, but for tools as well? Well thanks fortune cookie.
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>>17300600
>Why is this?
Well like >>17300683 said levels aren't really the usual "higher level>lower level".

To simplify as much as I can on what Kai said,
Levels show how much shit you've been through.
Stats show how tough you are.
Skills show how good you are.
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>>17300600
To add to what others have said, simply put all levels really add are a little more hp and mp.
Nice and might keep you alive a little longer or let you cast an extra spell, but if you can't kill the enemy faster than they can kill you and your spells are too weak then those little higher numbers mean nothing.
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>>17302512
It's referring to cooking tools, the only ones of which there is a difference among them.
Barbecue sets being the best.
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>>17301417
The log will tell you whether the weapon is heavy enough for two hand style. If it's heavy enough it gets the full damage multiplier and accuracy bonus afforded to two hand style. If it's not, you get damage multiplier and accuracy penalties.

For instance, my adamantium spear weighing in at 9.0s, good enough for two hand style, gave me a damage multiplier of 252.4 and accuracy of 3111%. I equipped a lighter spear made out of ether that weighed in at 1.2s and my damage multiplier and accuracy suffered because it was not heavy enough for two hand. Damage multiplier for the lighter spear was 208.2 and accuracy 2106%.

I used a cursed flying scroll on my adamantium spear, 9.0s, and noticed that the damage bonus, damage multiplier, and accuracy did not go up. To further what I was seeing I equipped the Pile Driver which was even heavier and noticed no change in the damage multiplier or accuracy. So it seems that all that matters is whether the weapon is heavy enough for two hand. You will not get any more bonuses for making it heavier than needed for two hand style.
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>>17302512
>>17303334
Instruments too.
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>>17303450
Iirc weights above that necessary for being heavy enough for Two Hand do have an influence, but only on crit damage.
I don't suppose you can confirm or deny that?
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>>17303468
Tried testing for crit damage but it's hard to confirm anything on my end. I don't know if the damage is higher because the dice roll was better or if it's because of the actual crit.
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>>17303450
Thank you for testing dmg multiplier change. I remmbere some discussion about ballista being a great base weapon due to ease of getting crazy high mass values and thus very high crit multipliers, but i've never seen any math or stats to support that. probably sanbagged enemy coupled with a good set of +critrate equipment would solve this question... Will need a wizard mode to test that, tho.
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>>17303498
Take a weapon just at the twohand weight and crit sandbagged <Raphael> the womanizer with it 50 times, jotting down the numbers. Then take the same weapon and dramatically increase its weight with cursed flying scrolls, then repeat. Compare the averages of both sets.
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>>17303334
>>17303452
Aww. I thought gem cutter and sewing kits and the like too.
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i notice alchemical rain only trains alchemy by a pitiful amount, would it be broken otherwise or am i just using it on the wrong potions?
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>>17303600
Yeah I came up with something similar to isolate crit damage from damage dice. All I did was create 2 spears with identical damage dice through carpentry, 3d13, and had one at 9s while the other I kept increasing its weight. I'll post detailed results soon but the tldr is weapon weight does factor into crit damage.
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>>17303947
Alright, as far as two hand is concerned, to get the full bonuses of the style one must have a heavy enough weapon. If one doesn't have a heavy enough weapon they will not get those bonuses. The bonuses referred to are bonuses to damage multiplier and accuracy. Increasing the weight of the weapon past the necessary requirement for two hand style does not increase the damage multiplier or accuracy. End two hand style in regards to weapon weight.

Now as a separate entity, weapon weight plays a role in crit damage as well as other forms of damage. The more a weapon weighs, the higher the potential crit damage when it occurs. In picture 1 I have a 3d13 spear that weighs 53.6s. In picture 3 I have a 3d13spear that weighs 9.0s. Picture 2 shows the damage for the spear that weighs 53.6s. Highlighted in red are crit damage, highlighted in blue is magic damage, and highlighted in yellow is noncrit damage. Picture 4 shows the damage for the spear that weighs 9.0s. Same color convention except highlighted in green is vorpal damage. I noted the other sources of damage to do some other damage calculations however what's important for comparison are the numbers highlighted in red and yellow.

As the picture shows, the critical hit damage is higher for the weapon that weighs more. About a 12k difference. Noncrit damage between the weapons is still roughly the same despite weight differences. On a side note, the initial stab damage seems to effect the magic damage I do on my spear. For the noncrit hit magic damage was around 45k however crit damage shot magic damage all the way to a nice 100k magic damage.

cont.
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>>17302352
I'm only 20 levels below and his stats are triple mine either though I pretty much exclusively eat herbed herbs and since I don't use pets outside of the breakfest and ensemble functions can easily stay at max potential all the time
I don't get it
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>>17304252
Did you somehow miss the part where he replied that he was in overdose mode?
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I don't know what that means
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>>17304278
It's is basically EASY MODO
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>>17304278
If you're talking about overdose, it's easy mode, where you get 20 times the normal experience for everything you do.
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Oh its easy mode. Didn't know that existed.
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Time for the funny pages.
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>>17304320
Got a lot of material this time, but I'll hold back since the thread is not long for this world.
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>>17304326
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>>17304320
aw shiet
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>>17304329
The next couple follow a bit of a theme.
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>>17304335
And I'll stop for now, save the rest for the next thread.
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>>17304199
*Spears are 3d15 instead of 3d13. Sorry about that.

Anyhow, I decided to increase the weight of one of my spears even more. This time to around default inner god weapon of 250s+(Picture 1). If you have enough strength you can wield them without having to use flying scrolls on them. The crit damage and by extention the magic damage increased as well. At 279.9s crit damage was around 68k and magic damage was around 175k. About a 30k difference in crit damage between the weapon weighing 279.9s and the weapon weighing 53.6s. Magic damage difference was around 75k.

In picture 3 I decided to just see how high of a weight I can make my spear until it became too heavy for me to carry. About 3,209s. The overall crit damage and magic damage did not seem to increase anymore. In fact picture 4 showed an instance where it did less than picture 3 which had a lighter spear. So it seems that there is a cap to the increase in crit damage when you make a weapon heavier. What that weight number is though is a mystery but it's definitely got to be some high number.

So from what I've observed crit damage and possibly other damage does go up as the weight for a weapon increases. An interesting note about this feature is that two hand seems like the only style of fighting that can take advantage of this. I tried wielding 3,000s spear with 250s inner god weapon to see if dual wielding could take advantage but my accuracy fell through the floor. It was awful. Negative 20k to hit with my first weapon and negative 2k to hit with my second weapon. Meanwhile, if I just two hand the 3,000s weapon my accuracy stays at a comfortable 3,270%.

So as a two hand wielder I would definitely take advantage of making your weapons heavier as strength permits if you're looking to increase damage. One consideration you'll need to keep in mind though is that if you're a caster hybrid doing two hand is that your equip weight will probably go to heavy so you'll need to cope with the spell casting penalty.

Having said that, the damage estimates for two hand is pretty high. I would say around 2 million damage in one turn is completely possible for two hand.

What I found neat about the damage I was doing in this test was that I was doing it with a crafted living spear anyone can make. Don't have to kill some high powered monster for it. All I did was use carpentry to craft a living spear, applied an adamantium material kit, then a craft repair kit. Leveled up the living weapon and used all level ups on magic damage. Finished the spear by hardening it at the blacksmith. As your character's strength goes up, you can use a cursed flying scroll to make the weapon heavier so your crit damage and magic damage increase.
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>>17304351
Is 2 million actually a lot of damage by your standards compared to other things you could use instead?
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>>17304351
incredible testing as always, thank you.

of course looking at it like this it's weird to think you can carry a weapon that weighs 3200 stone and get penalized for casting because your equipment weighs more than 15 stone. you'd really think it would scale
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>>17304351
It's really good by my standards. I'm forecasting that my meteor damage in the void if capped would do around 1.3 million damage(To normal enemies not counting weak to fire enemies). Dual wield was around 280k normal but 1.7 million if you factor in time stop. I'm predicting two hand can get up to 2 million damage without time stop but even more if you do factor that in. (Imagine making a living spear or lightsaber with timestop, loading it up with magic damage, and increasing its weight for two hand and crit damage). MA can do 3 million damage however if Two Hand gets off one timestop and does a fair amount of crits then I can see it actually overtaking MA in that instance. So the damage for two hand can be really good. The only problem is as I said if you make your weapon really heavy you're going to suffer spell casting penalties. A lot of people use casting for healing and buffs at the very least so it's something that needs to be accounted for.

Having said that, the damage for all the stuff I mentioned above is all viable and thrashes stuff in the void fine so I don't really want to discourage anyone. The only real difference in damage may just be taking one more turn in killing something.
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>>17304472
Whoops. This >>17304472
meant for >>17304424
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Anyone know why Elona keeps triggering my computers defragmentation program?
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>>17304504
Because the saves are made of hundreds to thousands of individual files.
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>>17304510
What the fuck? Is everyone else having this issue?
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>>17304512
Not me, because my defrag program runs silently so I'd never notice if it did.
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>>17304518
What do you use if it's not the default one?
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>>17304525
It is the default one.
I can only ever tell it's running because I can hear my disk start working after I leave the computer idle for a while.
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>>17304530
Interesting because every time Elona triggers the defragment tool the game starts chugging until the program stops
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>>17304535
Are you low on disk space or something?
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>>17304538
No. I have 500gb left in my hard drive. Is my issue that strange?
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>>17304540
Yes, and I don't think your issue fragmentation because that should only make a difference when saving or loading areas.
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After reading the eye of mind page and seeing there's a bonus to critical multiplier due to weight, i want to cast cursed flying scrolls on the Blood Rod of my Karata.
But the comment is from 2015.
Then again, i don't remember reading in any changelog or elsewhere that this changed.

On that note, a question : pets can't become overburdened, right ?
I never ever saw a speed reduction when inspecting them, so i'm 99.99% certain they're not.
No because a 500s Blood Rod is the goal.

Also, that 5% casting failure sucks, i think i'll change its class to warmage and forsake the others feats.
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>>17304595
>But the comment is from 2015.
Proven to be true in this very thread by >>17304199 and >>17304351
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>>17304595
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Eye_of_Mind
>Weight bonus: Weight of weapon or ammo (integer part only) x 50. Lower limit 0, upper limit 200.
Huh. I was wondering exactly how the weight bonus worked. Mystery solved.
Also,
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Spells_%28Elona%2B%29/Technical
>For NPC casters, cast rate is always 95% unless they're warmages, in which case it's 100%.
That would've been nice to know before I wasted those business cards... Well, at least it's easier to get more chips now thanks to Nefia Fever.
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notes on odd pets, continued:

If you are tempted to make a Performaid team, consider the following:
1. Bound in blood (Bloodress) affects all imp creatures
2. Performaid bloodress will use it repeatedly and at inappropriate times

Maybe I really do need to install Custom...
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>>17304613
Yes, i posted before seeing the posts.
Interesting that the 3000s spear have a lower multiplier, i guess 350-400 is probably around optimal since it reach the maximum 3.4 crit multiplier.
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>>17304637
>>Weight bonus: Weight of weapon or ammo (integer part only) x 50. Lower limit 0, upper limit 200.
That part is about the crit percentage, not multiplier, the multiplier part is a little lower in the comments.
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How much speed does a potion of Hermes' Blood really give?
60 is a lot of medals.
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>>17304787
10 for you, 20 for allies.
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>>17304787
since harvest gives small medals occasionally (rarely) and you can get harvest through wonder scrolls aside from the rare book, and eventually you'll be doing that a lot, and it's worse to raise speed before using AP to raise speed in act 2 (max 500) and then act 3 (max 800) i think the medal cost for hermes blood is more accessible much later for good reason. and thats besides all the dungeon diving medals
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I continue to truck along, and after speaking to the angry adventurer girl who kept murdering me I haven't died to any other cause so that is nice.
Debated marrying her, but I believe I'd need stronger strength then her.

Currently still just trying to complete my first god, getting all the body part for my military putit (thanks to the anon who mentioned yeeks I had no idea), and about to open up a shop once I find a shop keeper.

I also just found out that you can build golems, which is neat. Debating which one I should aim for between stone and wood. Would a MA pet be able to make better use of regeneration or holy shield since that is the only difference between the 2?
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>>17302323
At least we can both agree Chocola > Vanilla right?

Vanilla a shit.
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>>17305209
Don't think I've ever had stamina problems with a pet so regeneration wouldn't really appeal to me. Guessing since it will be in melee a lot it can benefit more from the PV increase of holy shield.
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>>17305299
Pets actually don't use stamina at all.
E+C's Custom AI gives them an energy resource so you can't have them infinitely spam abilities, however.
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Here's the finished custom bubble sprite. I tried to make him as un-jarring as possible, but since it's traced the style makes him stick out significantly.

I'm decently satisfied with everything else though. I'll post a 48x48 after I see how it looks in-game.
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Here it is. You'll have to manually change it to a .bmp though since I can't upload bmps.
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Brought to you while listening to Marilyn Manson(tm) and Trent Reznor(tm).

I'm open for the next request for a static with a reference preferably, though if it's something simple I could have a go at an all-original or PCC
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>>17305465
scut
>>
Do the majority of people use E+C or E+? The tiles in E+C look slightly bigger unless I'm mistaken, or am I just missing part of the modding process?

Looking at >>17294493 those sprites are going way over 48x48 and even onto adjacent tiles.
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>>17305626
E+C tiles are exactly the same as E+.
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>>17305648
Right. I just downloaded E+C and the monster girl sheet and now things make much more sense. I plan to start a new character from scratch and play with E+C from now on.

What about the girls in >>17294493 that are clipping over the walls to the right?
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>>17305626
most people use e+c for it's custom pet ai programming, other than that it got only a bunch of ui/gameplay tweaks and additional translations for e+
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>>17305661
Honestly I have no idea and you'd need to ask them. It looks like they have a heavily customized setup.
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>>17305661
Not the anon you replied to but
>Clipping
Its because both of those are "tag teams" and are 2 pets in the one tile; the game shifts both sprites one left and the other to the right causing the overlap.

The green + icon in the middle of the health bar is to show that its a tag team as well as separate the health bars of both pets on that tile
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>>17305674
>>17305675
got it

>>17305676
thanks

Also what's with the change/reference in pic related? Amatsukaze is one of my favorite botes and I have a raging size fetish so this is not healthy for me.
>>
So what does the "let's eat a meal together" dialogue do? when I selected it only an empty menu came up
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>>17305680
You don't have any food that can be shared.
So far it seems to be that only food you cook yourself can be shared. This means a sandwich you make is fair game, but one bought from the baker is not.
If you Herb food it stays shareable (or unshareable).
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>>17305685
How about a cookie? can that be shared?
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>>17305697
If you enable it in your browser settings sure.
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>>17305697
It depends. I found and purchased a romias from a vendor; that wasn't shareable.
On the other hand, a cookie you make from any of the nut ingredients (api, chestnut, acorn) will be shareable.
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>>17305712
Ah I see
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>>17305715
>>17305685
>>17305680
Actually, I'd like to issue a complete retraction.
You can share food, purchased or not, with your pets, but it needs to be at least Rank 5. Romias don't have a rank, so you can't share them. I guess this is also why you can't share curarias.
I guess this means you can't actually share cookies, because cookies are a Rank 3 dessert.
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>>17305726
Well shit, guess that means I can't be a cheap fuck then
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>>17305465
>>
Elin when?
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>>17305493
>>17305746
Thank you. It really means a lot to me. Were either of you the person who requested it? Or do either of you have a request.

I'm switching to the monster girl sprites, the characters are just so much better and the artstyle and coloring too. The bubble looks less out of place among them as well. Frankly, I never liked the original sprites.
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10h ago we were already on page 10, but I had time to sleep and probably still have half a day to make new thread. Don't underestimate the power of page 10!
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>>17305824
Yeah I did notice that on the catalog while looking for the flanfly thread but your explaination is that /jp/ is exclusiely generals nowadays.

There's really no fun short-term threads. It's completely different from /a/, but nice in it's own way.
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I didn't know that <Regulus> the altered drops a diary if you talk to him after you finish his quest. Quite an interesting read. Even translated in Elona+.
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>>17305855
I want to mince all the Meshera-worshiping fags and protect <Lankata>'s smile
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>>17305872
I understand your position, but please consider the following: the meshera have big tiddies.
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>>17305855
Shit what act is this? I can't believe I was starting to lose interest in the game all because I was treating it as a grinding simulator and didn't get into the story or even past the first continent.
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>>17305888
Make sure you have custom if you want more story, the cutscenes and dialogue are neat. Also when you're done with act 1 read the main story synopsis for a recap/some more depth.

https://web.archive.org/web/20151105083758/http://elona.squares.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5025#p30358
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>>17305897
Is text fixed yet?
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>>17305908
If you mean text spilling over the screen, pretty sure that was fixed in E+C 1.69.3. It's in the changelog
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>>17305897
Thanks bud
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I don't know if it was common knowledge, but the metalbit is applying to overcast damage.
With -100000mp and 1400+ magic capacity, each cast should cost 4000 hp, but my Karata only have 1500. It take around a third of its health bar, or around 400 hp.

So at 2000 magic capacity, this means taking not merely 2%, but 0.2% of overcast damage.
That's one Itzpalt killer if i see one.


Mmmh, can you wish for gods inside the arena/hunting quests and so on ?
Potentially wasting one wish in exchange to making sure you don't die in loss mode seems like a good trade.
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Okay whoever made this one needs a medal.
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>>17294739
>I wish I could marry off my pets to each other though.
THIS
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New: >>17306103
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>>17304472
Thanks sempai
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>>17294739
Nothing quite as romantic as arranged marriage between an enslaved little girl and my pet rabbit
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>>17294806
I got the snail then combined him or just threw him away I forget which because I didn't know he was unique. Such is life.
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