エロゲスレ/Untranslated VN General

How would you guys feel about an netflix like eroge game service?
You'd have a large collection of eroge from different companies, it won't suffer loading or speed issue like video games as they aren't as big or CPU heavy.
Companies would get revenue that might be lost to pirates.
And consumers get lots of eroge at cheap prices

>>17126356
Unlikely to happen.

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I can't die yet. Hold me /jp/.

>>17126463
Just do some cardio every now and then to keep the cholesterol and diabetes at bay man

>>17126374
this, the industry relies on the hardcore willing to pay 70 bucks for a porn game with voiced text in it, not in the cheap price to appeal to normies

>Play the trial to the sequal of a game I'm playing.
>Its about sluts being sluts and casual fucking, first scene they all get gang-raped and kill the attackers and treat the rape like almost nothing.
>Main girl is a loli who tells herself she doesn't like sex and stuff.

>Play the prequel its a SOL at a magic academy, things happen like a normal SOL magic school life.
>Popular girl, has friends and has a crush on her best friend.
>It's pretty decent and grew on me, I would like the game like that. Until she gets gangraped and ends up crying.
>Turns out she magical sexual powers. She uses sex to grow stronger, through sex.
>Game turns on its head. There are sleazy parts of town, she gets gang raped on the train, school students trick her into sex, her friends gets raped.
>The sweet setting they set up ultimately crumbles.

Mind you this is a game where you have magic powers and can kill things easily. Yet she doesn't fucking use it and just gets raped. I got a maxed out save file and can knock out enemies in the final world in a hit yet can't take on 4 humans who rape me on a train.
The worst part is she has a crush and she feels nervous every time she sees him and they have events together and it's so sweet and I ship them so much.

Fuck this game, I would think different if she was a slut like the sequel but she literally doesn't want it and cries.

>>17126594
>>17126374
They already have something like that for JAV, I don't see why they can't have it for eroge.

>your waifu is having a fight over you on some stupid shit with a girl you don't care about
>your waifu loses because it's not her route
JUST

>>17126356
I can see some of the distribution platforms doing that for part of the old catalog.

>>17126602

.. I .. don't think those games are meant to be taken seriously. These are fetish porn games. In this case it sounds like mindbreak among other stuff.

>>17126608

If she'd be your waifu, you wouldn't be playing another route. But you are. So she isn't your waifu.

>>17126618
I cannot defeat your logic.
I'm literally uninstalling the game right now.

>>17126613
Yeah that's what I thought too, I expected the girl turns slutty but likes sex with her body and soon her mind. Like the loli and the other girls in the sequal.
Like a regular sex game.
I expected my dick my dick to be happy not my heart to get sad.
I wanted to see a cute girl go corrupt but she fucking cries and has a crush and the sweet setting it just set up to make things seem worse.

>>17126602
what game my man?

>>17126618
I feel I will never get over this.

>Play a game for a cute girl you like
>Finish her route
>Do another route
>See girl is sad or isn't treated as well by protagonist
>Feel sad and memories of her route come back
>Stop playing the current route
>Might do previous girl's route again

>>17126635
You'll only hurt yourself

Sequel with slutty loli and titty monsters, who enjoy the sex slowly and no ruined settings
http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ171244.html

Shitty prequel which sets up cute settings and shits on itself
http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ149830

You can pretty much tell by the pictures, one pic has the girl terrified and another has the girls slightly upset.

>>17126626
If she's your waifu, you wouldn't uninstall her game. You'd keep it around and go back and replay some of your favourite scenes every now and again.

>>17126655
I just hit cancel, thanks anon. Where would I be without you <3

Do you lads ever replay routes you like in VNs?

>>17126664
I played Phoenix Wright 1 like 4 times, but not for normal eroge routes.

>>17125516
>>17125556
If a strong scenario is what you're looking for you're not gonna find it here. You play it for the girls first and foremost.

>>17126672
Personally, I really enjoyed the competitive FC portions of the game, to the point I would be happy to play it solely to read them even if I had no interest in romancing the girls.

>>17126607
Ever looked at an eroge's website?

>>17126678
Not sure I understand what you mean.

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>>17126652
I'm looking back through some cg, the art is pretty fucking hot from what I remember.

>>17126652
Strange, I played Magical Change Alice and didn't go into it with the same expectations you had so I never felt betrayed. I'm not sure why I knew what it was going to be, maybe the context in which I found out about it or something. But I mean it does have a rape tag right there on dlsite.

>>17126732
Exactly what I said. If you looked at any eroge's website, you'd see they always have a section where various tokuten merch are listed. Japanese buyers want that, they want physical games with that, not some Netflix-like rental shit. And every maker hopes people will like the girls in their games so they can make more overpriced merch with nice profit margins.

>>17126756
I know, its just how they set it up.
With the sequels, The place is all shitty, and the girls don't really seem fazed by the rape, or it becomes normal for them.
However I came to grow to like Alice and how she was a person and how she had a crush on a childhood friend.
That's what got me I guess.
I played for the filthy slutty sex, but fell for her, the sex was still pretty hot but still felt let sad.

>>17126764
They can easily sell that separately.
The netflix/javhd model could also work alongside it.
Some people having digital copies, and others having physical copies and with merch.

>>17126343
This is so so cute, I really wish it was a better game.

>>17126857

You can say that about so many games. But there actually were people genuinely liking that. Same goes for Nekopara I guess. But in that case you can at least argue that it's pretty much a nukige with hot art or whatever.

Can't find a torrent, so trying to buy Acta est Fabula from DMM. It crashes with an Internal Server Error on the confirm page. orz

>>17126997
get it from getchu.com

>>17127009
Doesn't look like there's a digital version available on getchu.

>>17126672
So it works as a chara or moege. Yeah, it's what I need. Thanks, will look for the HD edition when I get to akiba.

>>17126997
I downloaded both that and Also sprach Zarathustra from Nyaa before it died. I'm still seeding Also Sprach Zarathustra, though no one's downloading it, so a torrent exists.

>>17127054
Also sprach Zarathustra is interesting as a historical curiosity, I guess. I got it from Depositfiles.

>>17127054
Pantus doesn't seem to have it. Do you have a magnet link for both?

>>17126240
There's a difference to the organised generals which got kicked over here from /a/ by the mods. Is it mere coincidence that the eroge threads dropped in quality the moment we had /a/'s jap generals foisted upon us? The archives confirm it - of course you probably came in with the dregs of our old parent board so there's no point arguing with you.

>>17126339
You could choose to ignore the correlation, sure.

>>17127245
You need to leave.

>>17127245
>The archives confirm it
No they don't.

>>17127245
If you're complaining about the quality drop caused by people like you complaining about DJT being on /jp/, yeah, I guess you're right.

The only drop of quality come from the renewal of the population meaning most of the posters here just newer and therefore less knowledgeable on the subject
That's normal, just give it some time

How good is Chronobox?
Will it ever get an English Translation?

>>17127669
No.

>>17126356
the playdrm rental thing from dlsite is the closest we'll probably get and it's supposed to be out anytime now though i wonder how it'll work since more games seem to be implementing it and getting cracked faster

>>17127669
>How good is Chronobox?
I liked it, but then again I'm a sucker for horror on isolated islands
>Will it ever get an English Translation?
You'd need a fortune teller

>>17127739
http://www.dlsite.com/pro/rental/top

No new games on it

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I think we'll get a looot of lolis in this castle if this continues like this. And shotas. Oh Fia.

>>17127669
I liked some parts in the first half, but the game as a whole was really messy.

So many games to play! It's overwhelming sometimes

>>17128421
Next one should be big tits wind spirit.

>>17127368
I'm not gonna lie I sometimes feel I'm the only one who thinks that.
I mean these threads are pretty quiet and /djt/ or japanese related questions don't really negatively affect anybody here.
Not to say it's okay to shitpost due to low traffic but it really doesn't cause problems if they're vn related.
Being completely off topic I feel does, as well as pointless arguing.
Like if somebody says they like moege more than charage and another argues against it, I feel that's fine.
However if you just start flamming, baiting and just starting shitstorms that's an issue.

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>>17128537
>moege
>charage

>>17128446
Same, except I can't be bothered to download them.

>>17128544
They are different, same with galge being different to them too.

>>17128544
Focus on the moe vs focus on the actual characters and their development.

What is /jp/'s thoughts on osanajimi?

I route for girls who have a crush on a guy almost all the time which in most cases happens to be osanajimi. Otherwise I don't really consider then different from a friend much.

>>17128583
>osanajimi
trash 99% of the time

>>17128583
I don't care about empty labels like that because I'm not a brainless moebuta. I like good characters and dislike bad characters.

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>>17128583
They always win baby

>>17128613
I wonder who was actually cucked there.

>>17128622
The kid for growing up with a depressed alcoholic father who can't get over his dead wife and a mother who wont even look at him without the blank soulless stare.

>>17128644
>headcannon

>>17128644
You forgot the little brother who gets all the love his 'mother' doesn't give him.

>>17128613
Why is it that the blonde girls end up winning in most of these love triangles? Is Japan trying to make a statement?

>>17128691
It's not really blonde but non-black hair being popular.

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How tall are you compared to your erogefu (choose one if yoy gave multiple).

I'm 165cm she's 2cm taller than me.
In a way it's fitting as she's more like an older sister.

>>17128915
*if you have multiple

>>17128915
I'm 179 cm. Eroge girl I like the most is Kana from Daitoshokan and she's 148 cm.

Also 165 cm makes you quite a manlet, just saying.

>>17128940
I know, I'm asian.
It makes it easier to self insert for quite a few things, plus I have a shotacon fettish too.

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Recommend me some good vn with mysterious black haired heroine

>>17129043
dokoiku

>>17129047
Give me more edgy one.

>>17129053
no

>>17129057
Fuck you too.

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What's the most nationalistic vn you've played?

>>17129125
Why do you keep making these dumb posts? Do you feel lonely?

>>17129127
I'm not >>17129043
if that's what you're wondering.

>>17128644
Actually The child becomes mc's wife after 6 years old

>>17128915
I like my eroge girls to be about 160cm with the exactly 82/53/80. Anything else is a waste of time.

>>17129488
Bust size bigger than hips? Disgusting.

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Done with 12345 in Newton as well. Too short to stand well enough on its own, feeling a bit rushed and whatnot, but too long to just be a little epilogue for a "not main heroine". Unfortunate middle-ground. Completely optional though as far as I know. So there's at least that. (plus, to be completely honest.. it doesn't make a lot of sense for the protag to go down that path. Like at all)

That said, I gotta say this game as a few really nice OST tracks. Very unfortunate there are only 11 songs in the game and those aren't really that long either. A bit of a waste.

>>17128613
source?

>>17129548
Can you inform me a little about that game? Just what is it, something like a comedy focused charage maybe? is there any infodumping, and how many are there? I dont have interest in the game's scientific side, is it still worth of playing?

>>17129640
Read the trial and find out yourself.

>>17129645
And whats the point of this thread then? Shitposting?

>>17129651
For metaposting about problems with the thread

>>17129640
You can relearn the three laws of Newton in a few minutes...

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>>17129548
I do kinda get what this anon said >>17125507
I just finished Haru's route and going to Emi's next. Three routes so far and it's just something to setup what I assume the finale would be.

>>17129640
You accidentally go back in time fucking up the timeline because Newton didn't make a particular study known to the world.

There's not much comedy but the parts that has it did made me chuckle a bit even if predictable or tropey. Sadly, I'd say this isn't really a charage or moege but more focused on story or plot . Surprisingly, there's little infodumping from what you'd expect from a science themed eroge.

And please please please, just ignore shitposting or silly questions. /jp/ generals are really good at that.

>>17129640

It's a bit hard to nail down, but I'd say it's a mix of plotge and charage. There's comedy and "witty comments" come a good amount of time, but at its core it follows a story pretty consistently with very little downtime so far. Said story obviously includes science stuff but it's not just technobabble and infodumps, relatively little actually. Most of the technical stuff isn't just dumped but conveyed with dialogue between characters.
The charage part comes from characters playing a relatively big role, including their personal goals, when they clash against each other with their opinions and so on.


As far as I know, the game can be a bit hit or miss. I mostly like it so far, because it weaves its main-plot relatively well. (Which I didn't expect of a "genderbent Newton" story) But if you go with the wrong idea into this, which wouldn't be THAT weird, it may not be to your liking. I figured it's a silly moege myself as well before starting it. Luckily I quite like stories like this myself, so I don't mind that it's not one. Actually I'm quite happy. The (probably) escalator branching like Leyline and whatnot is also something I'm quite font of, although this one does it a bit differently as you have to take one "detour" I suppose.

>>17129732
>Surprisingly, there's little infodumping from what you'd expect from a science themed eroge.
Oh nice, this is what I wanted to hear. I didnt start it yet since I was expecting some hard infodumping from it just like rocket game. Well to be honest I was expecting way more comedy in it too but I guess I can bear with that much. Thanks for help, though I'm not sure why did such a simple question triggered some people.

>>17129756
Thank you very much for such a nice and long explanation. Seems like something worth of trying at least, I'll start it after the two games I'm currently playing.

>>17129732
Does Emi get a big role? She's very cute and I'd consider playing just her route.

>>17129970

I don't think this is a game to play a certain route. It has one story. I'm not quite sure if it's as harsh as saying "I'm playing Leyline just for Neko's route", but it goes into that kind of direction.

>>17130017
I see that makes sense. Thanks.

Iam reading Ever17, and Tsumugi is giving me feelings other eroge heroines never did.
Anymore heroines like her?

>>17130156
Nope. Tsumugi is the only one.

Anyone here played Iwaihime? Could you tell me if you enjoyed it?
Thinking about getting it.

I'm pretty sure I could read simple moege by now if they had furigana. One day I will graduate from being a worthless EOP.

>>17130343
The great thing about VNs is the voicing. You don't even need to be able to read Kanji except for narrating, and honestly, who cares about the narration for moege?

>>17130357
VN Seiyuu often speak in incredibly hard to understand cutesy moe voices. But I'll try. Searching up Kanji is just tiring at times.

>>17126343
What's a good loli vn to get a comfy fatherly feeling?

>>17130300
I played it. Actually heroines chapters are bad, the author may as well just made this an eroge with old faceless men raping the girls, because that what he wanted the most. Also the game is filled with sudden gore scenes that doesn't' add anything and are just there, and finally the ending is a pure deus ex machina, that almost made the whole plot meangless.

Beside that the game is fine. The art and BGM are good, the game had also a lot of badass moments. I was actually surprised by the scale of the plot. The story is huge and have a strong theme of destiny, revenge and curses.

In the end I didn't regret reading this, with it's all of its fault, this was a unique title for sure. Read it if you don't have anything else.

>>17129127
Not him either but what do have against fun?
Not everything has to be an critical analysis of writing.
This is an eroge/VN thread.
Simply talking about girls you like is on topic.

>>17130463
Sounds good enough. I'm more interested in the plot than the girls so hopefully the heroine chapters won't bug me too much.

>>17129732
>>17129756
How does it stack against Akikiru?
Is the science/philosophical/math side better or executed more?

>>17130357
I'm the opposite,
I suck at speaking and hearing japanese yet could read the dialogue if it were on paper.

>>17129125
世界征服彼女 because of pic related. It's played more for jokes though.

>>17130562
The moogyfication of this thread is unstoppable. Just ignore it.

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Trying to find early 00's VN's that isn't FSN has become such a pain in the ass. Anyone knows a torrent link for this?

https://vndb.org/v6527

>>17130653
>>17130658
Is this the one where she starts singing the national anthem and shouting banzai in the middle of a sex scene?

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God I love games with nude filters. Wish more of them had one. I hope the English version keeps the nude filter, guess it doesn't matter to me either way though since I finally bailed on waiting and just bought the Japanese version.

>>17130797
>nude filters
Why?

>>17130797The PC's on the right look like they aren't getting ood enough air flow.

>>17130418
All lolis are secretly dirty sluts, they want the dick so bad once they taste it.

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>>17128583
I like them most of the time, especially if she's friendly and nice, which in most cases, they do, since osananajimi usually provides the most 'safe' relationship from all other heroines. Tsundere childhood friend automatically goes into my shit list, unless they either:
1. Have a good reason to be tsundere
2. Drops the tsundere part completely when she become a couple with the MC.

>>17129605
https://vndb.org/v14886

>>17130888
I like you.
I don't know why people don't like nice and friendly girls.
Especially dere girls.

>>17130909
They're seen as "boring" in the same league as "nice guys." Which is quite ironic considering busty oneesan tropes, which people love, often share traits from osananajimi.

>>17130918
I get liking women qualities like those or qualities that would make somebody a good healthy mother. However i don't get when people like traits against those.

>>17130909
I like friendly girls. I can't stand boring girls though. Sadly in eroge friendly girls are mostly boring.

>>17130803
I am attracted to naked anime chicks.

>>17130933
You're into genki girls who are often than not in the losing streak.

>>17130937
I'm more a fan of lovable idiots. But yeah, genki is also okay.

>>17130909
>>17130918
>I don't know why people don't like nice and friendly girls.
Yeah pretty much that they're fairly boring to romance.
It doesn't really feel like a relationship has truly grown and developed when they're pretty much already being lovey-dovey in the beginning.
I like tsunderes because their archetype FORCES the writer to develop the character a little and show the growth. Too many friendly/nice girls have no growth beyond just suddenly being in love. Boring.

>>17130949
Stop playing vanilla romance, and you'll notice that osananajimi archetypes have just as much if not even more room for growth.

>>17130959
The only point is to talk about vanilla romance.
If you go into actually good things all bets are off because archetypes don't matter anymore, as every character will be unique with the depth provided to them by their talented writer who's trying.

>>17130983
You say that as if personal preference is objective law. By that logic, every single archetype is an uninteresting template with development as deep as a puddle.

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>>17130909
>I don't know why people don't like nice and friendly girls.

Because all the 'boring', 'uninteresting', 'require no effort to romance', or somewhere along these lines.
Personally, I like them because she's already has a good relationship with the MC, being nice and all, so I could just enjoy the sweet romance that the couple has without much hassle. But I feel that nice girls are more prone to stupid enforced drama since their relationship are already good from the start, like misunderstanding that could be solved in 5 minutes if the MC could just explain what really happened to her, or quarreling over trivial matter that goes out of control, or lol car crash, etc.

>>17130909
I like them as long as they're not submissive. As in, they have their own character rather than just being there to get controlled by the D. Which is obviously not so easy to find in eroge. Dere girls often overlap with submissiveness as otaku like submissive girls who can cook for you, clean the house, be a good wife and stay quiet while giving you a blowjob every morning.

Again, most otaku look for this in eroge, but not me. Which is why I loved Himari from Fureraba so much, for example. Or Sora from PxC.

>>17130949
>>17131003
That's how normal relationships work and even then can be done right for eroge.
You normally have an attraction to somebody and from that you get to know them, then build your realtionship.
Deredere does the attraction and infatuation for you as they already find the mc a suitable mate.

As for development that depends on the skill of the author. I personally love it when characters go deredere when they weren't once before. But with that, deredere girls getting with somebody they love is like seeing a ship finally reach the harbour after a long storm. It's something you routed for and recieved, it's satisfying.

Deredere characters tend to get more derdere to the mc while non derdere characters become more deredere when they get in a relationship. So there's your basic love development.
A good author however would find a way to incorporating them becoming more deredere into the story.
Like them becoming too clingy and later learning to calm down or have other elements in play. Like Hinata in otome domain loves the mc as he saved her from being raped and her advances are adorable but can get annoying, the author made the mc a damedameko and as such gets flustered and embarrassed instead of annoyed which is done so in a comedic fashion and done well. They progress as a couple by Hinata learning to calm down and the mc putting his foot down. That's also not the obly element in her route she basically has to deal with her chuuni ness and seeing how happy and bright she was going sad really adds to that.

I will admit once in a relationship quite a few deredere girls dont improve as much or pale in comparison to others in their game however getting to that relationship point and confession feels better than others.

>>17131029
*non deredere characters become deredere when they get into a relationship

>>17131019
You've been conditioned to believe that a "proper" relationship has to be won like some fucking competition when it obviously doesn't always be like that.

>>17131036
That doesn't have anything to do with what I said.

>>17131042
Regardless, a common criticism for their type is that they don't fight or play games to hook up.

>>17131046
Oh right Not me, my criticism was not about the way to get there, but how the relationship works *after* you both become a couple.

>>17130996
Well that is what archetype means, you know?

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>>17131019
I have a weird love hate relationship with Himari.
I love how she's her own person rather than some moeblob but at the same time they made her super bitchy.
Before her route she has interest in the mc, after meeting again she acts indifferent and later after finding out you weren't with Rina turns to her acting more like a childhood friend and being more friendly.

This is a personality I absolutely loved.
She acts like a good friend, somebody to talk about many things has feelings, thoughts, yet acts like a love interest and overall a girl who's also good friend.
However after confessing she turns straight out bitchy, I mean I expect her to be more like a childood friend and not really deredere or maybe see some development over the course of the route but this is far from what I expected.
Sure she's her own person but ruined the friend personality that would hang out and poke jabs at the mc into somebody who wears the pants the change, is really abrupt too.
I've never seen something like this other media other than Shara from Rune factory 3 where after marrying you becomes a nagging wife, from her flower girl/girl next door role.
Part of me considers this a new type of moe, sudden-change moe and I'm personally not fan.
Before her route I expected a deredere childhood friend and deredere love, What I got was an awesome childhood friend who isn't dere but a fun person to be around, turned super bitchy girlfriend but shows signs of her previous perssonality from time to time.
I admit deredere wasn't the best for her in her relationship part of her route but this was worse in sense.

>>17131048
Possible conflict once you reach that stage is how well you can maintain the attraction and not get NTR'd by some chad among other things.

>>17131070
I have a similar view and I was taken aback at first, but she gets better throughout her route as it's the main conflict of it. The freshness of such a heroine is what made me love her more than hate her. Besides it's implied that a lot of it is due to her acting embarrassed/inexperience and to the trust she had with the MC. I think they were the best couple of the four.

>>17131116
Most of it was from her not wanting everybody to think that she likes mc since he's a childhood friend, rather than actual love. I mean your very relationship and how you met is through childhood friendship and she doesn't want to admit it.
I get where she's coming from but it's pretty sad and ultimately restraints their relationship.
She'd rather have her mum and others not think they were in a relationship than be a normal couple with the guy she loves. Not only that but treats him badly from it. Which still doesn't really reflect how she normally is when not in a relationship with him.
I mean she doubted going out with him. What the actual fuck. I'd prefer their friendship expanded to love not this sudden new personality.

Yo lads I just finished dive 1 after starting it like, january last year or something. Been busy as all hell also the game dragged on a lot though I still liked it.

How long is dive 2 in comparison? And does it drag on as much?

>>17131196
Dive 2 is even longer.

>>17131200
Holy fuck my man, only two routes?

>>17131210
3 routes.

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For what's supposed to be a nakige it didn't pack nearly as strong of a punch as I hoped it would. At the very most I got a little emotional during Sakura's disappearance scene and the flashback of her having one sided conversations with Hatsuyuki as her ghost self but it didn't manage to make me shed a single tear. Shame.
The music was probably the best part about the game, but even that was sometimes so powerful that it made things a bit silly. For example, why did Freak of Nature (https://youtu.be/z0ntucIY6zU) end up as a character theme for any scene Sakuya appears in regardless of whether or not the mood warranted it? Why did they have a track(https://youtu.be/rD148NBa6Jk) that starts slow, quiet and spooky followed by something ridiculously loud and distracting (albeit good sounding) and proceed to use it in scenes which only the first part is suited for?
The above combined with a heroine that had almost no need to exist, half a dozen side character ""events"" that had no need to exist, dramatic fights that almost always end in a single anticlimactic バニッシュだ slice made the whole experience more negative than positive for me. Ah well.
Azuma's cute though. あふぅ。

Does anybody read visual novels on modern tablets/ultrabooks? Given most VNs are below 1080p and modern tablets and ultrabooks are going up to 4K or QHD I wonder if there are issues with scaling.

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>>17131233
I almost exclusively read on my tablet, unless I'm emulating or playing it on a console (which I have a preference for)

I can't play VNs sitting down in front of a PC for some reason, IDK why.

>>17131231
As for me, it was probably my fav eroge, i didn't really cry but then again a vn has yet to make me cry.
I just saw it as a sad story leading to a revenge motive.

My most hated parts are the same as yours the fight scenes especially the finally fight involving Aya made no sense.
The music and atmosphere are easily the best I've seen in an eroge.
Hatsuyukis ghost powers are so weak i don't know the point of him having them. Hes basically a nornal human who can scare people. His ghost powers did almost nothing but scare.

>>17131263
Also another gripe i had was thr grandfather whi did all this, getting nothing done to him and he doesn't appear in the main routes ir true routes.

>>17131270
*the grandfather who did all this

>>17131233
>most VNs are below 1080p
What's up with this anyways? Even new stuff is like 720p at best

>>17131259
>I can't play VNs sitting down in front of a PC for some reason, IDK why.
I'm the same. The question is whether I need a special low budget tablet just for VNs or I can play them on the upcoming Surface Pro 2017 or Eve V (both have screen resolution of 2736x1824).

>>17131286
Most Japanese people have shit computers and VN's need to be playable on as many PC's as possible.

>>17131286
Not like they need to be in ultra high fidelity [insert bullshit tech jargon here] resolution. They're already nice enough as it is. Only thing above that is to add anime cutscenes.

>>17131292
They can just offer the ability to play it at a lower resolution

>>17131293
I don't think it's any more work to draw pictures in higher resolutions so it's not like it would be any harder to make in a higher resolution

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>>17131287
Well dude I've played them on a cheap ass toshiba tablet and now I use a surface pro 3 with no issues.

Games like Little Busters, rewrite or oretsubasa I played them on my vita/ps3 or I choose a better version if it's like 800x600 or very low res on PC.

>>17131292
VN's by nature are low-tech. It's not about having to acclimate to hardware of their audience. Do you think VN's would still be VN's if they went full AAA game?

>>17131300
Question is what else is there to show in a higher res? It's not like these are Squenix games where the push the graphics further out of anything else. That would demand more interactivity than just reading text and picking choices to make it even worth it.

>>17131304
>Question is what else is there to show in a higher res?
People like playing fullscreen
More often than not, it looks like garbage because of the resolution.

>>17131304
>Question is what else is there to show in a higher res?
A better quality picture when you full screen it on a 1080p monitor. Also I've been playing Amayui and the extra resolution would let me see more of the battlefields without having to zoom out and make the character sprites really small

Last time I post about this, but I just noticed my baldr sky dive 2 menu is in chinese (got it from nyaa long time ago from a torrent with both games), is that normal?

Tried searching the archives but found nothing on it.

>>17131310
720p is more than adequate. You really don't need much more than that.

>>17131315
See above. Gameplay VN's have more of an excuse, but for the most part pure adventure games is overkill.

>>17131319
Next time don't download a version with pre-applied Chink patch. They get uploaded to Nyaa too.

>>17131320
>720p is more than adequate
Text looks blurry, characters look pixelated.
Adequate would mean looking the same fullscreen as it does windowed, like every recent light vn.

>>17131324
Shit. I have a physical version of dive2 I guess I'll just install that tomorrow.
Peace

>>17131320
>720p is more than adequate. You really don't need much more than that.
Like I said, 1080p doesn't take any extra work so there is no reason to not make it at 1080p. Could even go higher if they wanted to

The problem is that outside of Japan even very low budget devices have 1080p screens now. Regardless of graphics, you don't want to buy 10 year old device just to play VNs. You want to play VNs on what you already have. And most people have at least 1920x1080 resolution with even higher resolutions becoming more and more popular. And VNs stay at 800x600. Personally, I find text like this: >>17131302
barely readable.

Would be nice having a 1080p VN but not really needed. Companies just can't be arsed to code more considering the VN demographic doesn't really have a decent PC (or a 1080 monitor actually). Reading Senran Banka in full HD is really pleasing to the eyes and my dick.

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>>17131300
>I don't think it's any more work to draw pictures in higher resolutions
it is, and it costs more time and money to downscale it which is why upscaling 720p to 1080p was so common. what some companies that can afford it have done is downscale in the initial release and then later make an HD edition to milk their customers, some companies that have tried to increase resolutions in the past have gotten complaints and lowered resolutions for future products in response

the real irony is that japan is technologically backwards with the exception of their internet and that the average garbage mobage has higher resolution than the average VN because the platform forces it

>>17131332
>1080p doesn't take any extra work so there is no reason to not make it at 1080p.

nbkz said something different.

>>17131361
I don't really see what's wrong with this image, but I don't usually play bloated Western games so this is fine for me.

>the real irony is that japan is technologically backwards with the exception of their internet

Their toilet tech is leagues better than anywhere else you live in.

>>17131361
>it costs more time and money to downscale it
What? You can literally do it automatically
>which is why upscaling 720p to 1080p was so common
That would be common because it's also automated if they are just stretching the images or had them originally in a higher resolution so they could just swap them out
>some companies that have tried to increase resolutions in the past have gotten complaints and lowered resolutions for future products in response
What? They can just offer a setting to lower the resolution

>>17131363
>nbkz said something different.
I don't know who that is but he is likely wrong. All the artist has to do is set the resolution higher and zoom out a little bit more and it's exactly the same amount of work

>>17131386
>I don't know who that is

minori president. http://biz-journal.jp/2013/02/300.html

>>17131154
>she doubted going out with him. What the actual fuck.
I might going against eroge etiquette here but, what's inherently wrong with this? This certainly makes the heroine more of a thinking individual and less of a semen recipient.

>>17131384
there's nothing wrong with it, it's a 1080p screenshot from a mobage

>>17131386
the issue is that everything costs money and if you want 1080p you pay a premium over 720p, if you want to include multiple resolutions you have to pay for the coding etc. the nbkz interview anon just linked explains things very well, even i learned something

>>17131391
This was a really interesting read. Especially what he says about the eroge industry's decline, how 20k sales used to be considered a hit and now it's just 10k sales, and how the cause is due to the rise of other faster/more accessible forms of entertainment like soshage and Youtube. Also how despite what some people say, piracy is not the cause of eroge's decline, if you stop piracy those people will just move to something else they can enjoy for free.

I guess there's not much we can do to save them except buying eroge and supporting the industry while we can.

Has anyone read Mako Hunter from clockup? I saw it mentioned in the recommended reading section of /djt/'s guide and was wondering if it was worth trying out.

I'm not sure of it's difficulty though, I've only been studying the language for a couple of months so I'm not sure if I'm prepared enough to read it.

Sorry, you guys probably get asked this retarded question every thread.

>>17131465
Look up screenshots from it, play the trial, judge how you feel about it in relation to your skill.

>>17131465
Why not ask DJT that if it was in DJT's guide?

>>17131406
>I might going against eroge etiquette here but, what's inherently wrong with this?
Nothing really but I mean you see how deep and powerful the confession is, how far the guy went and how she clearly loves hims back. That she never acted like this once, or showed any sign of it even when he did weird stuff.
She'd normally just joke and push the weird stuff he did.
Then all of a sudden she does a split personality change, acts bitchy and wonders exactly what kinda guy she ended up dating. It's kinda shocking to say in the least.
It's like dating another girl entirely.

Normally I'd be fine if it wasn't as heart felt or he really messed up but that wasn't the case he was kinda just overacting a bit, but even then it was kinda normal for him.

>>17131465
>Has anyone read Mako Hunter from clockup?
I have multiple times, rather good fap material in my opinion.

I heard loli is legal in america,
I assume nudity and porn in public is banned unlike in japan where censored porn in public is legal so I won't ask that, but can I have somewhat provocative lolis on my mobile display and not get questioned or arrested?

>>17131691
You might get questioned/arrested and might even get in legal trouble. It's /supposed/ to be nationally legal, but local obscenity laws and states rights are annoying.

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>>17131422
>the issue is that everything costs money and if you want 1080p you pay a premium over 720p, if you want to include multiple resolutions you have to pay for the coding etc. the nbkz interview anon just linked explains things very well, even i learned something

And yet there are plenty of VNs available where the company has high resolution art available.. just doesn't use it. Moonstone should be an example, as they have such art available for Nostalgia, so at least from then on they should have 1440p assets around. And I wouldn't be surprised if that's happening for a few other companies at least as well. Some even do have >720p support, even though they only have 720p windowed. There's a bit more to the whole 720p thing I think. And I wouldn't be surprised if "file-size" is one of them...

>>17131767
name one case in your State.

>>17131852
Can't, I live in one of the states that don't have ordinance against it.

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>>17129970
She does but as >>17130017 said, I'd also say don't read it if you're just aiming for one route.

>>17130578
I haven't read Akikiru but I'll say I'm not really familiar with science at all. Just whatever the definition in the dictionary I can find, that's about what I know. The science here really just serves as something to move the plot forward. No need to be really familiar with. Hell, they explain a bit of it anyway why they need to do X for Y to become a result.

And can anyone tell me if the bonus CDs are available for download somewhere like specific character CDs that were shop exclusive? I got the getchu one which is Alice's (and also comes with the OST and a "pillow talk" CD). Would like to listen to them once I finish this.

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Checked out the Tonakoi fandisc. Now Tonakoi was a bit of a mixed bag for me. The common route was quite alright, the beginning of the routes weren't too bad. But they all kinda fell apart towards the later stages. Ryouka probably got away the best, Rina by FAR the worst.

So what's the fandisc doing? Pretty much continuing things in the same way as the later parts of the main game's routes were. In other words, in my opinion it sucks. It pretty much lacks the good parts the original had, with its characters no longer being very capable of playing to their strength. For example I really liked Rina in the original. I remember that. The fandisc did not really make me remember why though. That's a problem.
The fandisc also adds a new character, but that was kinda pointless. I could see the character being likable, but she isn't able to stand very well on her own. She isn't given the space. It's a weird choice to do such a thing in a fd in the first place. I do respect that the sister remained a sister though... although they could've left out the 20kb "route" of hers. But I guess I was never much of a fan of the side-stories of Tonakoi, and the fandisc did not change that. But yeah, I didn't expect her to not get any lewd stuff.

Speaking of lewd, that was also messed up. The game has the "same" amount of scenes like the original, just less CG for that. (4-5 instead of 6 for 3 scenes) While that'd be ok, they also had WAY WAY too much text per CG. Normally about 10kb for one CG can be considered reasonably long already. That's also how the original game did it. Here, Ryouka has 5 CG with 135 kb of text accompanying that. (Again, original -> 6cg with 60kb) Like what the fuck. As a result, the game's text is about half "ahn~", but I doubt a lot of people really care about that. I didn't care about the ero myself in the first place, but I wouldn't be surprised if people fall asleep with that kind of "variety"... or aren't using 80% of the scene anyway.



Yeah, this fandisc wasn't for me. Hope the Daito one will be better, have that one also still around.

>>17132067
The ero is amazing in the first game, didn't you like it?
Also I'm glad to see somebody else here like Rina in the first game, she's the best girl.

タンテイセブン trial is out.

https://digitalcute.com/download-package/detective7trial/

>>17132136
My prediction is that this will get the kusoge of the year award.

>>17132142
No, stop that

I just want to say how I like how even though you guys pirate you still want to support the companies and may buy their work unlike /a/ /v/ and /g/.
Who try to justify it by saying the writers/seiyuus/artists etc. won't make money even if they use crunchy roll or how bluerays are too expensive so they just pirate it. I mean i get the price tag but pirating and not supporting is kinda a slap in the face to the people who worked on it.

>>17132260
>I mean i get the price tag but pirating and not supporting is kinda a slap in the face to the people who worked on it.
I support and respect developers who make quality titles but everyone else, the majority of devs? Meh. I like moege and other bad games as popcorn but I wouldn't pay for them. I would say VNs in general really suffer from not being worth their price tag, the vast majority of $90 games basically have no value except as fap fodder which makes their pricetag excessive. If the developers take that as a slap to the face they should make better games that have intrinsic value beyond fappable H-scenes.

>>17132279
Yeah that's an issue for me, I don't buy it as I don't really have money but even then its far too expensive.
Moege I feel suffers more as you can't really port them that well without the sex and have them sell as well as plotge.

I really feel that moege could learn from nekopara and just release cheap $20 versions on steam for sales. I mean I can pretty much guarantee that if every moege would sell similar to nekopara, merch like dakimakura and limited editions wouldn't be an issue.

I really really want eroge prices to drop they should be $40 tops.

>>17132136
Which version is better
自己解凍？or zip?

>>17132111

Objectively the first game's ero was fine, as I said.
Though yeah, I wasn't a huge fan of the ero in the first game, which is why I didn't really care much here either. I'm not too sure about Ryouka's voice actress in general, but especially in the lewd scenes it sounded rather weird to me. Rina's cgs often looked rather weird to me, let alone her scenes being.. something else. And Nagisa? She may as well not exist for me.

>>17126356
Sure, I would be willing to give that a try as long as I don't have to jump through any hoops to use it.

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I really appreciate how Mooko and Micchi's relationship progresses throughout the three Leyline games, the way they slowly grow closer to each other is so cute. It really feels like one long gradual progression from teammates to friends to lovers across the entire series, it's so different from other games which tend to dump the whole romance in one route.

>>17132338
Are you sure you know what 自己解凍 and zip mean?

>>17132505
I assume they are the same i extract both.

>>17132502
The third game is particularly good about this becvause they are already lovers but leave it aside for the sake of plot, but the teasing can't stop.

>>17132511
Then why does it matter which one do you get?

>>17132502
>>17132519

I only played a bit of the first game but does the protagonist not end up with Ushio and instead Mooko on the left?
Unless mooko is a nickname for Ushio.

>>17132529
I dont know what's the difference they seem pretty much same, and if one is better i would want that.

Like if i was offered 32bit and 64bit I'd pick the later. Japanese tend to have old pcs and would pick the former.

>>17132556
自己解凍 is self-extraction. For zip you need a program to extract it... except not really, since Windows can do it by itself since like Win 7, maybe Vista.

>>17132532
Nickname because USHIo.

>>17132591
Okay my bad i forgot 7zip/winrar are seperate programs and windows has its own extraction tool.
I just assumed almost everything on the internet was zipped or rarred by these tools

>>17132600
That's so cute

>>17132619
Thank Micchi.

I never laughed this much in a long time.
初情スプリンクル is for sure the first moege Iam looking forward to this year.

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>>17132615
Okay i just downloaded it and now, but I'm more confused.
I downloaded the zip version and it's a compressed file that you extract not a zip, then what was the other download?
Are they both really the same?

>>17132136
This music
FUCK
It's as if persona 5 and detective conan had steamy jazz room sex.
I love this jazz it's got going.

>>17132629
Actually it was Mutsuki who first came up with the idea, hence Moochan. Speaking of Mutsuki, I love her but I'm really missing Omaru, he was such a key part of the group dynamic. Having a gentle happy friend to calm everyone down was so nice. It's really making me realise what a fantastic male friend character he was.

>>17132689
>compressed file that you extract not a zip

ZIP is a type of a compressed file you extract to get what's inside of it.

Since ZIP files can be extracted just by Window alone, the distinction between it an a self-extracting EXE archive is meaningless.

It would matter with a RAR or 7Z archive. To extract those you need an appropriate program (WinRAR, 7-Zip). But you can also create a self-extracting RAR or 7Z, which will have the EXE extension and can be extracted without having the appropriate program.

>>17132733
Poor guy only friend Mitsuyoshi has left is Shizuka and he kind of wants to fuck his sister. Also Loui, but 'he' has issues.

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>>17132689
>>17132736
Here's a picture for 7-Zip, as you can see you can select the self-extracting option when you're creating the archive.

>>17132136
I'm liking this way too much, I'm already a mystery otaku but the really cute girls, decent voice acting, jazz music and stlyistic art is really hitting the right spots. Now all I need is a decent story.

>>17132736
>>17132742
Okay that's weird, normally i get the icon for a zip file. Those must of been rars or 7zips any way thanks

>>17127327
It kind of does...

>>17126638
Hit it on the mark, I cant play different routes once I finish one.

The second after story for Rabi in newton and apple tree really fucked my mind. the girl grew a dick and let mc sucked it. after sucking it mc went through some kind of body transformation and lost his dick, then grew a vagina. The girl proceeded on to fuck him. Holy shit.

>>17132992
>the girl grew a dick and let mc sucked it. after sucking it mc went through some kind of body transformation and lost his dick, then grew a vagina. The girl proceeded on to fuck him. Holy shit.
lol what

>>17132992
Did he become a boy with a vagina without growing boobs and all? Because that's my fetish.

Ia anybody else playing Tentei7
>>17132136
How do i check my evidence?

>>17132992
Wow I didn't expect that.

>>17130711
Searching for torrents of old games usually never works, even if you find one it's going to be unseeded. Search for "螢子""020927" rar and you'll find baidu links.

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Well, I binged and finished it. Gonna cut my review short before I sleep.

This VN is pretty easy to follow despite it being science-themed. I dislike time travels but I can't help but fall for it anyway. So if you know your time travel themes, you'll know what to expect from this. Gotta say the scenario's the strongest suit of the game as the character scenes are pretty short and hence not much time for character development. You're pretty much forced to play routes in order to get to the others and seeing how each route (except the main) contains some ideas around the story. So it sucks if you happen to have a favorite girl that's not the main or second to her.

Kinda spoilers below
It's kinda painful seeing your Yotsuko in all routes because her route is basically a bad end because the timeline is still fucked when you return to the "present" and how you turn her down every route. It feels mean just because she is your childhood friend and how she's the one who helps you most of the way.

Rabi's route is non-existent. She saves her mother and is very thankful for using your time machine so now she's on board for helping you all the way as thanks. Her route ending is actually connected to the next route which is Haru's.

Nothing significant sticked much to me for Haru's route. Basically just drama between Alice and her but the best scene was taking out that smug motherfucker Hooke off the story. I was so thankful for that. And her route also serves as a bridge to Emi's

Emi's is probably the best normal "character" route. By that, I mean normal happy end kind of route. Because her end involves the timeline being unfucked, kind of. And the MC deciding to not go home and live together with Emi . I really like her moments when she sees something.

And Alice is probably the best one. I mean, story-wise because the whole routes have been built up for her end. It's kind of a bittersweet ending because while you do end up fixing the timeline, the MC doesn't get to be together with her. And when they go back, they see their past selves going to the time machine . Typical time travel plot.

The omake section is well, pretty much an official doujin as they mentioned in the text. Just like this >>17132992

I also noticed there's a good amount of pissing scenes. No wonder because the artist for the game is the same doujin artist that does pissing books.

Overall, I'd say the whole game is okay. No brick-shitting moments but a good amount of twists. Comedy is delivered well. Game has almost little to no fillers because as soon as something happens, it goes to the next scene which makes it less boring. I enjoyed it because I went in expecting nothing but I got a bit of something at the end anyway.

I'm looking for a game. It has an extremely cute girl but she has no H scenes.

>>17133615
Thanks for the blog.

>>17127143
My bad, was dead for a while. Here are the torrents I used:
Acta est Fabula: https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/18193

Also sprach Zarathstra: https://sukebei.pantsu.cat/view/4204

I'm still seeding the second one, but the first torrent I lost somewhere.

>>17132831
Nope

>>17133934
Thank you anon. Iam not that guy but I wanted to ask what's wrong with Amantes amentes version?
Are the H scences much better than the all add ons in amentes ?
Sorry Iam new to DI, and I wanted to start reading it.

>>17134215
>Are the H scences much better than the all add ons in amentes ?
Nah, it has some censorship, but it's still an overall more complete experience.

>>17134215
If you don't want to swap around versions constantly then AA is the best, most complete version. H-scenes are very bad in it.

>>17134215
The general consensus is to read the uncensored version completely, then skip though AA for the new content because it's just that good.

>>17133615
>>/vg/vn/

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Ninetail opened the site for their next game, VenusBlood -BRAVE-. It looks like they're going with RPG dungeon-exploring gameplay this time. I will be sad if they get rid of their usual squad building gameplay entirely.

4chan seems to think their site link is spam.
http://ninetail. tk/td14/

>>17134532
>It looks like they're going with RPG dungeon-exploring gameplay this time. I will be sad if they get rid of their usual squad building gameplay entirely.
Their games seem really damn complicated and thus scary to me. If this ones simpler that'd be nice.

>>17134532
I love me some dungeon crawlers, not that I trust an eroge company to do good maps, but eh.

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>>17134540
Don't worry, just play on easy/normal and the games literally play themselves. The complexity is there, but ultimately it's very easy to beat them without really learning the mechanics. I was the same way as you, afraid to play them for their complexity, but it's all unnecessary. Just play one VB game on easy/normal (preferably starting Empire I think?) and watch your fears melt away.

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Omokage got delayed again. Pushed back to 9/29

http://10th.iam-hiquality.com/info/20170605.html

>>17134546
just use procedural generation for the true hardcore dungeon crawling creed

>>17133336
>Game has almost little to no fillers

Neat, I might play this one next then.

>>17134754
That was kind of expected.

Has anyone played 輪罠2?
https://vndb.org/v4371
I'm curious whether it contains actual rape scenes, or the usual mindbreak silliness.

>>17134565
I started with the first one, it was nice. Also a very rare example of a heroine who's actually irredeemably evil and doesn't get turned good through the power of the D.

>>17131465
I liked it, great variety in heroines (although only the few main ones get significant focus). It also had an ahegao on/off option, which is something every VN should have. The language isn't too hard, but with only two months behind you it'll still be hard.

>>17135080
Naturally it's fine to start with any game that interests you. I just seem to recall Empire being the first game widely regarded as good and "solid".

>>17134754
That makes it 1 year and half so far since its original release date? I was actually hoping june was going to be it.

Anyone mind helping me with Amayui? I've reached the trials the dragon loli needs to take, and the 3rd riddle mentions something about a leader, an angel, and a dragon, but all the combinations I tried on that event mark did nothing.

>>17135369
There's a enemy dragon unit that keeps respawning every turn you kill it. Guess what you have to do with it.

What sites or place can you talk about eroge and japanese only games?
For regular english games even if it's not that well known I can go to youtube, gamefaqs, steam and other sites to talk about it.
Where can i go for eroge?
i mean sure I can talk to you guys but there's like a 50 of you at the most and you don't really play every eroge i play.

I know about bbs pink but was wondering if there are any english sites or other Japanese sites besides bbs pink.

>>17135527
twitter, corners of fuwanovel, reddit

>>17135538
I assumed as much, didn't know about fuwanovel though.
How about other japanese sites?

>>17135567
learn how to use 2ch

>>17135567
there's 2ch, but most of the discussion in those consist lots of bitching about random things and people bandwagoning on dumbest stuff. you can come across a good thread here and there.

>>17135576
>>17135588
I assumed bbs pink was 18+ 2ch.
Okay thanks.

>>17130357
I see what you mean but it does kinda suck not being able to read the narration without tons of word searching, whereas the dialogue is actually not very difficult at all.

It's still fun actually reading something in the original language though.

>>17135596
He's meming you, most moege invovles normal conversation you need basic kanji for what the protagonist says.
Unless it's all kana or has furigana.

Just a pro tip for the dude looking to play VN on tablets

Not all of them work well full screen, the majority does (even some old ones), but weirdly others give strange bugs, also the touch screen doesn't work so well too sometimes.

I'd recommend attaching a cover keyboard if you're going that route

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>>17135593
They're pretty mean

So yeah I've been reading tantei7, their accents are pretty weird and theres a whole bunch of slang.
I normally read moege so it kinda took me by surprise.
The game is kinda like phoenix wright but with more dialogue and less action.
The first questioning section didn't make much sense and the correct thing to ask seemed unrelated to what she was talking about.
That said I noticed some music and graphical issues, it might just be my computer but I don't know.
There is one song that plays at the title and mission select and its like sweet sex, it's so lit.
That said the other songs aren't as good.
The artstyle doesn't play much part and the character art isn't good but at times can done pretty well.
The characters themselves are kinda general with the mc being to most interesting.
Your osnanjimi is a chibiko and not a loli so I'm kinda disappointed. She gets kinda horny at times but she's an actual idiot so there's that.
Yoy have smug french friend who everybody hates. He's kinda annoyong but I don't get the hate, he's probably evil though.
I really wish you could look over your evidence, i feel like there is a button to do so and i don't know what button it is, because otherwise i have to remember finer details about the times i receive the evidence. Like why the osanajimi got angry at the mc at x time.

Overall I'm kinda disappointed, I really felt like this had potential, I'm still not finished yet but this is my impression after an hour or so. Still I don't know if things would improve.

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>>17135822
Also this is your osnajimi she is kinda slutty, doesn't like being called loli or chibiko and an idiot. More like comic relief but I assume she's fuckable too.

The file extension is pixel.windows btw I've never seent hat before

>>17135705
it's about the same when you make shit threads wherever my dude

even 2chan/may has their own "op is a faggot"

>>17135902
It's not that bad, I feel bad after finishing eroge too.
I mean sure that's common but it could allow for discussion like other people could mention how they felt fulfilled or were unsatisfied mentions games that did it right, etc.

I almost lost all hope in this year releases till I found this title
https://vndb.org/v19996
Are we really fucking getting a Phoenix Wright eroge with
Shinkawa Satoru and Nakazawa Takumi as Director and Producer?
Seems good enough reason to play this for me.

>>17135932
I saw this ages ago but forgot about it thank you

>>17135946
Why not just talk about it in Japanese then?

There's nothing wrong about asking Japanese questions here as long as it's on topic, it would however be better to ask on /djt/ or /int/'s japanese thread.

Falsefagging and complaining however ultimately ruins the thread, more so than persistent japanese questions where you can answer it and they move on or just redirect them to those threads. Still once again if it's eroge related I don't see anything wrong like talking about a confusing dialect of what a particular phrase 'really' meant in an eroge.

>>17135989
*or what a particular phrase meant

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>>17135973
>サクラの詩は決して翻訳されない
>翻訳された
>www

>>17135689
The only game it tried on touch screen was dc capo it had a special mode for small touch screens. I have to souble click. It was kinda annoyong as i didn't know how to make it stop.

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>>17135989
thanks for being so understanding anon. despite having studied moon runes for a billion hours i am at a loss as to what minori said in this pic and am hoping you or someone here can help me to understand. i already asked in /djt/ but they told me to fuck off

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>>17134532
Honestly I'm happy that they try something new with gameplay. It's really hard to improve the system significantly after Hypno/Ragnarok, heck I feel the Ragnarok was downgrade of Hypno in some aspects and otherwise kinda blunder of a game. So Brave feels somewhat a fresh air, also Iruka finally main-writing a VB which I will seriously look foward what he will manage dude knows what my dick likes and he feels he could manage to do some cool stuff. Other than finally new 産卵-line VB in the H apartment too. So looking foward to this and lets not forget there's dragon-loli-maid too

>>17135400
Thanks anon, should had figured there was more to that dragon than just grinding it for exp.

>>17136459
How did you do it anon? I'm stuck at the same part, tried to kill the dragon with all of Katorito's forms, with the angel, nothing worked.

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Leyline 3 spoilers
I feel like by the end of this game it'll turn out everyone is a homunculus, the number of times they've used that twist is hilarious.

>>17136765
Lure the dragon out.

Since the Venus Blood series was brought up, does the entire series maintain the dark mood of the first game, or does it get more light-hearted?

>>17137107
GAIA is lighthearted tongue-in-cheek, the rest not so much.

>>17137107
It stays just about the same or maybe slightly lighter due to rest of the protags being less crawling on my skin depressed solely focused on revenge and protagonist side having more characters and the focus being bit different atleast from Desire onwards due to strategy gameplay, Chimera still is mostly similar in mood to orginal VB due to still being training game. And due to later games being law/chaos split games the protag will either end up being the almost decent guy with some kinky fetishes or the biggest asshole bastards around.

>>17137179
>>17137198
I see, thanks. As long as it doesn't get too lighthearted, I think I'll try them out, eventually.

The crawling in my skin factor in the first one wasn't annoying IMO, since the protagonist was more about taking action than brooding.

>law/chaos
After Gears of Dragoon (and Soul Nomad on the PS2), I love titles like that.

>>17137288
Even Gaia which is probably the lightest of the VBs is dark in mood so you shouldn't worry about the mood being too light as its consistent worldview in series. protags being proactive does help a lot. Also if you liked the law/chaos split of GoD you shouldn't have problems liking the later VBs as GoD1 basically had its law/chaos split to try draw some of the VB crowd to nine-tail side of their products.

Does anyone have Kb numbers for the BiMan games?

>>17137068
should i read the prequels to this one?

>>17136236
something like "yeah!!!"? year is something i imagine japanese people thinking when they hear "yeah".

>>17137568
WTF dude? It's game 3. 1 and 2 aren't just "prequels", they're the first two parts of a three part story. Obviously you have to read them.

>>17137568
Of course. It's a mystery game trilogy, and in my opinion the second game was the best of the bunch anyways.

Make sure to unlock Ushio's "optional" epilogues in the first and second game as well, as you can miss them if you don't get some flags right despite getting the common route endings, and even though the epilogues themselves don't have that much in the way of the main plot and they're really short, the third game's main story treats both of them as canon. The side heroine routes on the other hand can be safely skipped unless you just want to read what are basically side stories for girls you personally like: they're also really short and end abruptly, don't add anything to the main plot and there's nothing else in them that gets brought up in the sequels either.

>>17137568
Yes, pointless playing 3 without 1 and 2

What did you guys use to hook stuff on VN?
I use VNR but recently I think that it is ded and I can't update my game databise and dictionary, something about internet error.

http://tenka.seiha.org/2017/05/so-i-married-a-giant-stone-turtle/

Arudoc posted about his opinion on Amayui(summary, no patch coming), I cant really agree nor disagree about story considering my moonspeak isnt that good, what about you anons?

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>>17137738
>>17137761

>>17137738
Nothing.

>>17137631
If you care about stuff that gets brought up in the sequels, it's worth noting Ushio's bonus H-scene in the first game (the one unlocked in the Extra menu) is actually referenced in the second game and your enjoyment will be slightly affected if you haven't read it.

>>17137761

Better than Kamidori if you ask me.

Amayui is, for better or worse, a typical Eushully game. It has game-design decisions where you are wondering how the heck anyone could consider that fine. The interface is wonky as always. The story is shit.. or at least what I know if it. I suppose you could say that if you like generic fantasy stuff with WEAK villains that are bad/evil because they are bad/evil, that get a few random scenes every now and then so you can see them laughing and whatnot, you may enjoy this, but I have yet to enjoy a single Eushully story. Eushully is like Tales of to me in that regard. The characters CAN be nice. The story.. most likely not. So yeah, I enjoy the cast of the game way more than Kamidori's so far. The complains about how the story progresses are actually legit, but I think that's hardly important if the story is hardly important as well. Kinda like complaining about Atelier stories really. I mean who the heck is playing this for the politics and not for Fia being silly?

I do think Kamidori is heavily overrated, but in general, Eushully means that you can either arrange yourself with the weaknesses, or you can't. I don't think there's a single game of them you can simply recommend. What Amayui so far succeeds in is being a legitimately fun and tactical game. I'm playing on hard mode and already encountered the following among other things:
-A boss which is pretty much capable of killing anything aside of tanky stuff with a single ranged attack that costs it SP. Solution -> Let it burn all of its SP before going in with the mages.
-An area with enemy reinforcements spawning that are strong enough that zerging to that area had the highest priority, because otherwise too many strong ranged enemies would just spell death
-Kiting and deliberate tanking are important. Enemies always attack the closest unit to them. It NEEDS to be abused. More often than not you only have one or two characters who can tank whatever the enemy has, but those units will probably not be capable of actually killing the enemy or may need too long.
-Elements are important. VERY important.
-Items as well. You can use unlimited items during your action phase in battle which seems cheap as heck, but is actually sometimes needed.
-Nobody is Mr. (or Mrs.) Perfect. Yet. For example I do have a good physical tank who just melts against spells and especially against wind. Also no speed.

In short: I need to essentially abuse whatever I CAN abuse. So far I quite like that. The downside is that playing this game for longer sessions isn't possible for me, as it's quite taxing. Also there's still the Kamidori esque grind for material and whatnot, which I personally would've liked a bit less of. And I still think the Fire Emblem style level-ups don't fit very well with a crafting system. But yeah. So far it's fun. Probably way too long on hard though. This will easily end up with triple digits...

What so you feel is the best word for penis?
I feel chinchin is the best but chinpo works for lolis but non-lolis saying it leaves a really bad taste im my mouth.
Chinko can go fuck itself, no pun intended. Nikubou is a special tier and works in special situations.

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>>17137971
hyper weapon

>>17137971
欲棒

>>17138002
>>17138016
I've never heard 欲棒 before, sounds hot.
I admit special words for penis take take a special place but I mean normally.
Or do you mean to say the best word is a unique word for it.

>>17137971
Do you mean non-lolis saying chinchin leaves a bad taste in your mouth? Or chinpo?

>>17138096
>chinpo works for lolis but non-lolis saying it leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.
Non-lolis,
Non-lolis saying chinpo is weird as fuck unless I guess they are shota

>>17138182
Why though. That doesn't make sense at all. Chinpo is a rather proper way to say penis, compared to chinchin or chinko at least. Older girls/women saying chinchin is much more weird.

>>17138193
It sound childish or weird.
Chinchin sounds more suitable and more common.
That said I'm not talking about guys just girls.

>>17138193
What the fuck dude, chinchin is the one that's more childish.

>>17138182
>chinpo works for lolis but non-lolis saying it leaves a really bad taste im my mouth.
Huh? I think you may havea distorted perception of Japanese. Chinpo is just a generic "cock", like that's actually a good literal TL, it's the word you use when you want to say penis but be vulgar. I cannot imagine any reason why generic cock would leave a bad taste in your mouth for bad lolis. It's not a specific term or anything.
>>17138208
Chinchin is definitely the one that's childish. I definitely think you have a misunderstanding of Japanese here.

>>17138035
Do you not play nukige? It's common.

>>17138218
>>17138247
I guess hearing more people say chinchin seems like the proper term people to refer to it.
Like dick or cock isn't the proper english term for male genitalia penis but it seems better than saying penis.
I mean you can say penis but for sex people mainly say dick or cock.
But yeah now that you mention it, chinpo does feel proper but I guess not as sexy?

>>17138268
Still I guess it's just prefference I just don't like when girls say chinpo it's odd.
Chinchin I hear far more often so it feels more natural.

>>17138268
Chinchin is penis.
Chinpo is cock.
Chinchin is the "proper" term but it's also childish because teens and adults start using chinpo pretty fast.
My main concern here is that you would suggest anyone but children (lolis) saying "chinpo" is weird, when it's specifically the more vulgar-adult word.

>>17138284
You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>17138299
Quality post.

>>17138284
>Chinchin is penis.
>Chinpo is cock.
>Chinchin is the "proper" term but it's also childish because teens and adults start using chinpo pretty fast.
>My main concern here is that you would suggest anyone but children (lolis) saying "chinpo" is weird, when it's specifically the more vulgar-adult word.

Feels like the other way around for me
I admit I was wrong I took it back here>>17138268 after thinking about it. But you just said chinchin is penis and chinpo is cock, that doens't match what you said
Cock and dick sound more vulgar I think most people would admit that, chinchin seems to fit the bill quite well and chinpo seems like penis beign more proper. of the two.

>>17138307
pretty much
more proper adult terminology:
>penis
>chinpo

more childish/vulgar terminology
>dick/cock
>chinchin

>>17138319
>chinpo
>proper
What? you're thinking of inkei. Try and say chinpo in a normal context and people will smirk.

>>17138330
I meant of the two, sure we can go into mara and other stuff but mean of the two chinpo sounds more proper than saying chinchin.
Chinpo sound like what an adult would say, chinchin is what a younger person would say.
I personally prefer the later for sex.

日本語分かりますか
分からなければ話すな

Speaking of dicks

Who have the largest dick in non-nukige?

https://exhentai.org/s/fe2523950a/990547-300

>>17138343
The futanari, it's always the futanari.

>>17138342
の

Once you get into the different connotations of synonyms it's pretty damn hard to find a 100% match between words from two different languages. Especially slang.

>>17138355
True not everything has an exact match, they are different languages after all.

>>17138355
The problem here isn't finding 1:1, it's a guy saying he finds it weird for anyone BUT children to use a vulgar word...

What's with the recent influx of people asking language-related questions so much? Unlike some other guys here I don't really see a problem with using a texthooker for learning purposes, but why are you asking about it here? DJT exists for precisely that purpose, helping out on actual Japanese-related questions. Now, I don't want to be elitist here either, it's always good to keep humble. We're all learners here, ultimately. But if you're asking "how hard is Hanahira" or "how do I use texthooker" or "I know 7 kanji when can I read VN", just do it in DJT. It is there for a reason, and while it may be mocked by some in here there's nothing shameful about going there and using it.

Like >>17135989 mentions I don't think it's wrong to make a post here if there's some particularly puzzling language in a VN you're reading. But if it's a beginner question, save it for DJT. Use your common sense, people.

All that being said, one of these days I'd like to take a survey of this thread to get an idea of the demographics, how long people have been reading Japanese, etc. Would be some interesting data.

>>17138373
I'll do it before you unless you make said survey within the next 15 minutes.

>>17138373
>We're all learners here, ultimately.
Fuck you howaito pig, watashi nihonjin

>>17138379

If you hold off, I'll make a reasonably in-depth one and post it early next thread. I can't stop you though obviously. If you have any suggestions for potential questions that would help out.

>>17138390
Dividing "reading japanese" into "seriously" and "to learn" would help. Or basically just dividing up sketchy questions into more objective ones.

>>17138373
7 years studying Japanese, started eroge 3,5 years in, allowed me to skip the shitty phase during which you have to look up stuff all the time. Didn't read too much eroge in the last few months, cause I had to write my thesis.

>>17138369
And like I said I took it back>>17138268
Chinpo does feel more proper.
I'm talking about preference I prefer girls to say chinchin it's cute and erotic, and more widely said.
I guess it doesn't feel weird but not as erotic when they say chinpo unless it's a loli who sounds like she's trying so-hard to be proper. Once again it's my preference.

>>17138373
>Would be some interesting data.
I don't really see how it would be interesting. But go ahead. Personally I wish we had more people that talked about more games than just the newly released ones. I like that guy that finishes a game every week and writes up a wall of text about it, even if the games he picks kind of suck. I think an influx of newer people can only be good as long as they don't go overboard with the things you stated.
At the end of the day this thread is still way better than the ones on 2channel. Almost every single reply in the threads there is an inane one liner or random complaints, no one actually saying anything interesting about the games.

>>17138443
Yeah I stopped going to 2channel after realizing it was 90% meta discussion and 9% complaints with barely any real discussion sprinkled in.

>>17138398

What exactly do you mean by "seriously" there in contrast with "to learn"?

>>17138496
I didn't really try hard to think of a good word, but basically "I feel like I know japanese now".

>>17138496
Not him but I know Japanese so well that I barely use dictionaries when reading, even, and don't study Japanese at all because I already know it more or less. So perhaps he means people like me are reading "seriously", without the slightest intent of learning any Japanese, just of reading the novel itself.

>>17138373
>What's with the recent influx of people asking language-related questions so much?
Maybe it's related to the disproportionate amount of people using le meme arrows from /v/ as if it's normal.

Speaking of puzzling language.
I want to know, I haven't finished Sakura no Uta but why do they say nature imitates art?

I mean we as humans translate art as something desirable, to help with survival, like seeing a clear river flowing helps us know of a drinkable water source and if fish are there we know that we can hunt and it's safe to drink, the lush green grass shows the land is healthy and animals that might eat grass might gather etc.
Now we might see this as a painting and say that's art because it matches ideal places that satisfy these survival instincts.
Similarly seeing a beautiful person or things that match the golden ratio among other things, we might see that as art as well, once again due to our survival instincts.
However this art is based off nature which may be completely random and we select ideal things from that randomness once again based off what we deem suitable for survival. Whether it be a beautiful spouse, a place to settle etc.

Why does nature conform to our perception of art?
Why do they say nature imitates art?
Isn't it the other way around?
One answer I could understand is if they believed in a higher being that had a concept of art and fashioned nature to that.
Another answer I could accept is abstract art or things that don't conform to the golden ratio or anything humans find desirable, and if they had special meaning like; a child cut up a hedge or flowers for an adult that's ugly but had meaning to the adult.

Still, am I just thinking too much and this is some inside thing I don't know?
I feel like it is because I'm just trying to wrap my head around why they would claim this.

>>17138552
Human perception of reality, including nature, is shaped by the human perception of all conditions. Art is a representation of that perception, and our perception of nature is shaped by our perception. Thus, nature imitates art.

>>17138552
The game talks about this in-depth. Maybe try reading it.

>>17138558
That's just saying our perception of nature imitates art, not nature itself.

>>17138568
There is no nature itself.

>>17138373
Yeah I miss the threads from a few months ago where there would only be 3-5 posts a day with the occasional discussion. Those times were so comfy. Now the majority are people from /a/. oh well

>>17138558
Nature doesn't imiate art, it's random and not sentient.
I repeat not sentient.
Nature does not change from pure perception alone.
We humans select select ideal conditions like I mentioned based off of survival instincts, spouses, places to live, animals to hunt etc.
Idealized conditions are what we call art.
Clear gushing rivers, lush green pastures, vivid bright flowers, crimson bathed sunsets.
This is art because we find it ideal places for survival.
Our perception doesn't change our natural survival instinct.

>>17138569
Nature: the phenomena of the physical world collectively, including plants, animals, the landscape, and other features and products of the earth, as opposed to humans or human creations.
Definitely something that exists as itself.
Unless you want to say that because we can only PERCEIVE it through human perception, it only EXISTS through human perception, which is silly.

>>17138606
And Oscar Wilde makes the argument that 美 exists as its own thing, irrelevant to humans.

>>17138552
Haven't read SnU either so this is likely to be utter wank but I'm always happy to go down the rabbit-hole of overanalyzing.

One of the things that comes to mind is that art tends to be a perfected, concentrated, idealized version of something - the scenery in a painting as more beautiful than the actual landscape, the relationship drama more succinct than real people's lives, that 2D girl you're looking at more feminine than actual girls, etc.

It makes sense to me that this would be something said by someone who did not believe in a higher power, because it seems to be saying that nature lacks that deliberate intent that makes art that ideal form of something. Nature can't reach the 'concentrated' form of something that art takes on, though it certainly tries.

Another thing that comes to mind given the day and age (and target audience) we're in is that we're almost exposed to more art than we are to nature. You have people who have known far more fictional character than they have people, or seen more paintings than they have beautiful sunsets. You have people who understand the world around them through stories they've read or shows they've watched, who compare things that happen in real life to fictional events. For them, art is the standard, and nature is the imitator. It's what comes first. Their first feel of firing a gun comes from video games, their first crush from a book, their first vacation is a movie, and so on, until the world around them is understood through the art/fiction they've experienced as opposed to the nature/reality they have.

of course it might just be the ol' "take established saying and invert it to get people's noggins joggin' because nothing forces people to think like when they think something's incorrect"

or maybe they'll shove an answer down your throat by the end of why that saying might be appropriate to the characters, I dunno

>>17138615
>And Oscar Wilde makes the argument that 美 exists as its own thing, irrelevant to humans.
If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around does it make a sound?

Yes beauty exists and those sentient or even plants can distinguish it as 'ideal survival instincts'.
Sound exists on its own as it's vibration through the air, Sound isn't experiencing vibration through the air. Beauty once again is idealised locations, these may exist without humans knowing, as nature is random. It doesn't form from humans saying I want x as x is beautiful it forms on its' own.

Speaking of which; There was a plant growing in my veranda once, it grew so big I wonder why it grew as big as it did, considering I gave it very little soil for it grow. Later I found out that I had a nearby bad of soil and that was punctured one of the roots found its way inside and started spreading and growing from inside the bag.

>>17138660
>Yes beauty exists and those sentient or even plants can distinguish it as 'ideal survival instincts'.
That's not what he's talking about at all.

>>17138552
Not sure why you're attributing that line to Sakura no Uta when anti-mimesis has been a thing forever.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imitating_art

>>17138686
>An example of life imitating art is that of singer/actress Miley Cyrus, whose role as the famous fictional popstar Hannah Montana in the Disney Channel sitcom of the same name gave rise to her own singing career.
Profound

>>17138690
why did I know that this would be the first and probably only thing anyone would jump on

should have saved lolishrug.jpg for this

>>17138697
If you want a majires, I think your post is a bad one because it subtly implies that the existence of a wiki page - or to be more precise, the fact that Oscar Wilde supports the idea - that the idea has merit and is profound, when instead, even famous and indeed intelligent people can be wrong and indeed dumb at times.

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She won't go to date or even tell if she already has a boyfriend or not, and I can't do anything to her other than making a small talk on tennis court on Saturday and visiting her house on Sunday. And this dude also start making move on her. Help?