エロゲスレ/Untranslated VN General

>>16843713
Totally forgot about the new Clochette. How is it?

>>16843755
I liked pretty much all of Clochette's previous titles, but this one just feels like the text drags on forever and things move at a glacial pace, once the scene with the storm happens.
Maybe it's just the route I picked though.

>>16843755

Pretty titty, no?

>>16843892
Thanks. I think I'll pass for the time being. I have a habit of dropping Clochette titles midgame anyway.

>>16843755
The lewd scenes are lewd and Asumi is really cute. That's it though.

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Have you guys played Ai Mai Mist? I loved the hell out of that game. Guy turns into a girl and (depending on the route of course) slowly gives up ever wanting to be a boy again. It's a slow sweet process, not like 'oh, I'm a girl now, time to fuck dudes I guess'. I'm getting disappointed in every single gender change eroge I've played in the last several months and I've played Ai Mai Mist 3 times now. I just want that magic back.

>>16844606
In exchange for me being a jerk and asking for Gender change eroge (again).

https://mega.nz/fm/Uu5WVQJL

Natural Another One. It's my copy from DMM so it'll need a crack but without buying it this is impossible to find. I think that link works, it's just a temporary mega upload since I don't have a mega account. Someone else should make a more permanent sukebe link.

are any of the appendix scenes in eustia worth reading

>>16845522
楽園幻想 is

>>16845730
that was the one that caught my eye, thanks

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Best taste.

>>16844606
It's getting me hard just thinking about it, thanks for sharing.

>>16845811
What anime is this?

>>16845831
It's referring to Dynasty Warriors.

>>16845857
That was me using a dumb meme to ask what the VN is

>>16845911
Koinosu Ichacolize

>>16845948
Thanks, looks fun

>>16842083
I hate when deredere doesn't win.
I love deredere girls they act like actual girls, rather stoic, tsundere, overly genki and other types.
Don't get me wrong I like those types too but deredere seems more normal and I really route for them most of the time.

>>16846903
*rather than

>>16844681
I just wanted to download it so I can make a crack but the link doesn't work

>>16846903

Deredere is probably the least realistic type. It's "idealized" to the max.

If we want to be mean, only bitches come close to real girls, but even without being mean.. let's just say: VNs that successfully show how awkward and NOT FUN it is to be around a lot of girls as the only dude get it probably the most right with how the protags of VNs usually are. (aka not machos, nor friend-zoned or gay) Most of the time VNs avoid this though... for obvious reasons.

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Is there a CG superviser in eroge companies? I'm shocked how can they leave it. What with her left eye? Tried to fix that... OMG.

>>16847250
How can you be sure they aren't in an alternate universe where some people evolved to have eyes that are very far apart, thus allowing them to see more stuff to the side of them?

>>16847250
She was born with that face. Nothing fixed.

>>16845811
How are you (or anyone else) liking that game so far? Is it good for what it is?

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>>16847250

Doubt it. I recently read Konozora by Pulltop, which has pretty good production values for a VN. It still has pretty QUALITY CG. One CG of the twins looked like it was an SD CG, but it's not supposed to be one.. so probably just not finished. (way thicker outlines and less detail but not actually SD) And some perspective stuff was just messed up completely. I even burst out laughing with one CG because it looked so BAD. It's the spoiler picture. Very slightly nsfw. (panties)

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I stumbled upon a 女装 connoisseur

>>16846955
There's a name to deredere girls in reality: clingy.

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>>16847250
fix this!

>>16847356

Fits well enough with what I wrote. Take https://vndb.org/c11597 here. Sure different than (most) other "deredere" characters, and clingy fits her pretty well. Hapymaher is actually one of those games which I think dealt with the whole "having a harem" decently well, without going too far down the "this makes you feel like utter shit" train.

>>16847412
That head looks like it was left in a vise for a few years.

>>16847414
>>16846955
My favourite part of Hapymaher (besides Maia, obviously) was that the girls didn't really get along well and were constantly having catty little fights. I like it best when the harem is a competition.

Kinda wish there was more of that in vns. It's often either 'everyone is fine with it because they're all besties now' or else 'everything is awful and none of the other girls will ever know happiness again' and very little in between. Obviously I don't want this to be the standard but iunno, the whole daishuki senpai~ thing loses a bit of punch if they're not really willing to fight for it.

>>16847480

Aside of some clashing girls in Hapymaher (i.e. Yayoi vs Keiko), they were actually really close with each other. That's in part why the protagonist suffered from it. They are not afraid to loudly talk about all his shitty and awful traits and how terrible he is with women, being an enemy to women and so on and so forth. And he has no way to really talk back, because he IS indecisive, although it's somewhat understandable. And he can't really talk back much, because the girls simply team up. If they say "jump", he jumps. No way out, aside of with things getting even messier...

Sure, the girls still try their best to get together with who they like, but they don't clash in excessive ways with each other, aside of aforementioned combinations that just don't get along well. Which is fair enough. Deep down they still care and are usually the first to slap some sense into the other one, if they go down the wrong road. At least Keiko and Yayoi quite worked like that.

>>16847572
>They are not afraid to loudly talk about all his shitty and awful traits and how terrible he is with women, being an enemy to women and so on and so forth
That's probably why picking Maia bad end felt so good.

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>>16847764

It's one way of "solving" things. Another is, to just.. decide. I actually liked that. Because it's not like these girls are ever actually saying anything wrong. They just nicely remind you, how "great of a situation" you are in. How absolutely awesome a harem like that is.

>>16846955
Sounds like you have never had a girlfriend.

>>16846928
I'll try making an account and trying again when I get home from work. I'm on break now, get off in about 3 hours. I think it was because it was a temporary link made without an account.

>>16848407

Deredere has nothing to do with girlfriends. It's an archtype that essentially means, the girl is dere all the time. Before the relationship starts, and afterwards. This was never about the "after" though. At that point many other archtypes are dere as well anyway. (tsundere, kuudere..)

>>16848407
Where do you think we are?

>>16846955
>only bitches come close to real girls
Females are roughly half of the world population. Just like males, they aren't a hivemind and have different personalities, ranging from pretty cool to complete shit.

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Rereading Reminiscence was the right choice, new content or not. I just love the setting, the characters and even the mundane SOL shit.

>>16849451
i don't get her route. it was basically recycled shit from common.

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The imouto's route is only available after all the other girls are cleared.

Sigh. The shit I put up with.

>>16849610
Which game?

>>16849610
there is no point to reading any imouto route after 運命予報

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>>16849636
妹のおかげでモテすぎてヤバい。

https://vndb.org/v13260

>>16849451
Should I read Akatsuki no Goei before reading Reminiscence?

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All right. This is Natural Another One. I bought it from DMM about a year ago.
https://vndb.org/v5532
https://mega.nz/#!c1ABDSzb!b7NqeDSti4TgFYcn9fQEaNJaGbgr0rY5sgW_1K4VQis

It's a bondage game where the main protagonist has a fiancée. He's a teacher at a high school and one of the high school girls Minao has fallen in love with him so she confesses to him knowing he already has a fiancée. Since she's desperate he proposes to her that she become his slave. She agrees to it. From that time forward she's never allowed to wear clothing in his house (except chains and such), cooks his meals and cleans, must go to bed after him and wake up before him and always be willing to have sex. She is property.

His girlfriend Haruka has a masochist fetish and when he realizes it he turns her into a pet. He keeps them apart and even after marrying her (spoiler I guess?) secretly keeps Minao as a slave on the side. I've only unlocked 2 endings and less than 30% of the CGs.

It's from 2003. I haven't gotten it to work on anything but a Windows XP emulator. Try Virtualbox if someone else doesn't have a better idea.

Requires a crack. Someone will have to do that.

>>16850051
You don't have to. The story stands on its own. You'll miss Kaito's and Yuki's backstory but you can catch up on that later.

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>>16843713
Anyone recommend playing through 銀色、遥か?

The girls are pretty cute and the art looks great. I'm a sucker for marriage/pregnancy endings as well.

https://vndb.org/v18778#main.

Random question, but was Nijima Yuu's reputation affected by the Koikake backlash? I'm surprised that KEY has him on their next project, since I got the impression from /jp/ that his audience had turned on him.

>>16850209
No of course not

>>16850209
From what I've seen on 2ch the whole "music NTR" stuff was mostly done in a joking manner and no one was genuinely mad.

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>>16850167
It's so, so, so boring. It lacks any sense of humour, the pacing is terrible due to each route being fuckhuge, the characters while cute don't have any interesting depth, the MC is more boring than a literal piece of cardboard... it's not very good. It's pretty much a poster child for "good art and cute girls does not equal good game". I recommend it only if you've got a mind of steel that can endure 10~15 hours of nothing happening per route to get a couple of good scenes, if you don't care about depth in characters, and if you don't care about a boring, dry experience lacking in humor or excitement.

>>16850316
Is their previous work in the same vein?

>>16850325
i thought Hoshi Ori was good from what I played but I ended up dropping it because it got a bit boring after the confession scene...everything before the confession scene was good though the tension between the characters was what I liked most (Marika's route)

>>16850325
Yes, but I would say the lack of a mostly pointless middle school section and the addition of having a protagonist with some character to him (he wants to be an architect) makes Hoshi Ori a notably superior game. If you're going to play one, you're more likely to enjoy Hoshi Ori. However it remains really long, and still doesn't have much if any good comedy, character depth, etc etc so it's not a glowing recommendation. It's still mostly boring. If you really, really like pure love it could be your favourite game of all time, though. I myself just need something more than cute girls and 15 straight hours of "doki doki i love you".

>>16850316
>>16850343
That's a shame, I'll probably just pass on this one then.

Man Rain's route in Baldr Sky feels pretty long...how close am I to the end? I'm on chapter 12. A lot of cool shit is going on but I've heard that the later routes get pretty crazy.

Has there ever been confirmed cases and or heavily rumored cases of plagiarizing in the eroge scene?

>>16850379
Sukebe Elf literally had an H-scene directly copy/pasted from an earlier title; though it was an accident that it was left in word for word, it's easy to imagine that their intent was to slightly modify the scene rather than write an entirely new one.

Do you need to complete Flyable Heart to play Kiminago? I dropped Flyable Heart roughly 5 years ago but still remembered the settings and characters.

>>16850247
Are you kidding? If you're talking about bbspink the threads were a mess, both Niijima and the artist were harassed over Twitter, some Koikake advertisements in akiba got teared down, Niijima took a Twitter break of a full year and the Us:Track producer quit out of stress, which most probably meant the end of the brand.
http://us-track.tumblr.com/post/136869669326/

That said it most probably affected moege fans who didn't know Niijima beforehand, which means that previous Niijima fans are still there keeping his reputation.

>>16850209
what happened? I've just gotten into reading untranslated stuff recently

>>16850542
Main heroine of a moege was NTR'd away from the protagonist by music
NTR in a moege, no surprise people got upset

>>16850544
not him but can i get a non-buzzword response? like what actually happened, she moved away to music school somewhere he couldn't follow because lifelong passion over high school boyfriend or that sort of thing?

How do you find good stuff in a Japanese eroge shop? Most of it isn't on vndb, the packaging is usually unhelpful and I don't have enough money to just buy stuff at random and hope i get something good.

>>16850548
NTR isn't a buzzword, learn Japanese
寝取られ

>>16850355
Pretty much all routes end around chapter 13. Rain's just feels the longest because it incorporates the common route, probably. I believe Nanoha's route starts around chapter 8 or something.

>>16850551
christ i mean something that actually explains the plot.
'ntr'd by music' tells me nothing informative whatsoever.

>>16850551
not him but
https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AF%9D%E5%8F%96%E3%82%89%E3%82%8C
>ゲーム業界などでは、NTRなどと呼ぶ場合がある

>>16850575
It tells you all you need to know. The MC got NTR'd by music. Plot explanation won't add anything meaningful. It would just elaborate what you already know, that music NTR'd the MC.
>>16850577
I wrote it out as 寝取られ so he could look it up in the dictionary. I was not saying "NTR" is not a thing people say.

>>16850578
i am starting to suspect you don't actually know what happens and are just repeating secondhand internet comments.

thanks for nothing, i guess.

>>16850495
You don't need to, it's a self-contained story, but I'd strongly recommend it, you're missing out if you don't or if you read Flyable Heart after Kiminago. Mayuri's route is amazing and you'll get spoiled if you don't read it first.

>>16850587
Not him, why not just read a review on it? There's plenty of them out there in English, Jap, or Chinese, and it shouldn't take more than one or two to figure out what happened with the true end and why some people threw a shitfit over it.

>>16850587
No I read the NTRblog article on it.
That's really all you need to know.
There's no deep story to it. It's a moege.
MC just got NTR'd by music.

>>16850595
i was just hoping for a little two line summary from someone here who'd read it, out of passing interest. didn't think it would require more than one post and wasn't really curious enough to proactively look it up myself.

>>16850603
perhaps you misunderstand the question.
i wanted to know what the circumstances were that would cause this to happen. why are music and boyfriend mutually exclusive to this girl. what reason does she give that they cannot be together. regardless of whether or not it's contrived bullshit plot excuses, i would still like to know *what* the contrived bullshit plot excuse was.

i can't tell if this whole exchange is making me more curious or just making me want to forget any of this ever happened.

>>16850610
Don't worry anon. You aren't the only one who had no idea what the hell was meant by "NTR'd by music"

>>16850610
Like I said, there's no depth to it. The music cock is just too good. That's all that matters.
>>16850618
learn Japanese

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>>16850618
thanks mate, thought i was going nuts for a bit

>>16850619
christ, it was just a lame troll attempt the whole time. or an elaborate plot to teach me to google it first.

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>>16847480
>the whole daishuki senpai~ thing loses a bit of punch if they're not really willing to fight for it
I take it back, I regret it, I was wrong, I would like them to quietly and graciously and smilingly accept defeat and cheer on the other girl, this feels awful.

why do you people like flyable heart I dropped that shit after finding out that moege has ntr.

I hate love moege turned ntr.

>>16850610
I'm dumping you because having a relationship would interfere with my career as I'd have to focus on our relationship or would not have enough time for a relationship.

It's not that uncommon, same with jobs interfering with relationships as they don't spend enough time together, unless they are married.

>>16850647
wait should I have spoiled that?
I assumed it was obvious knowledge at this point, give me how the conversation had delved into ntr by music.

>>16850647
thank you, that was the answer i was hoping for. figured it was something along those lines, it's a pretty template situation. weird to see it in a porn powerpoint though, which probably explains all the mad it caused.

>>16850652
just wanna mention, I haven't really played it, however that's what I picked up when conversation on this game was hot topic around here, and from some screen shots of her breaking up with him.

>>16850587
The "NTRd by music" thing is a meme. I didn't play it either but the reviews summarize it as:


- Sena is a prodigy musician
- The MC is in love with her when they were kids so he confesses to her by letter but she transfers the next day due to her duties as a composer with her band and agency
- When she becomes 16, she falls into a (creative) slump. Thinking she might fix it by meeting old friends again, she moves back to her old town
- After meeting the MC again they become lovers
- After a while she recovers her creativity, and without saying anything she disappears, leaving the MC dumbfounded

Her route ends here. Then the true route starts

- Several years later, the MC is an adult by now, and a teacher
- The band Sena was working for gets dissolved and the agency ends up with a big debt
- Sena loses her job and she decides to return to her old town again
- The MC finds Sena and confronts her for using him and just disappearing
- But he still loves her and asks her to stay with him forever, to which she accepts
- They start living together
- After a while, and after thinking about the agency's debt she secretly decides to pursue her music career again
- The MC feels something is wrong and decides to propose to her; she accepts while telling him she's very happy
- After a while she disappears again, leaving a letter to the MC telling him they won't ever meet again

In other words she was just a bitch that used the MC whenever she felt emotionally unstable, twice. The "NTR'd by music" thing is a meme to describe it jokingly because she was prioritizing music all the time while she was with the MC.

>>16850641
Wait it does?

>>16850209

wasn't the ntr only present in the true route after all girls confessed to him and he chose the main girl only to get ntrd.

I mean he can go back to other girls but wow what a disaster

>>16850687

by a transforming monkey man or something in the fandisc along with other girls in other games by them and unionsoft and blossom.

>>16850676
okay yeah see I can get where the butthurt is coming from, that's some contrived bullshit right there. no part of that sounds enjoyable from a story perspective, even given that tragedy and sadness can be enjoyable feelings.

odd that she gets her mojo back after getting back with MC, usually sadness and misery and badfeelings are what spark creative writing/drawing/composing urges. but i'm not an artist so i wouldn't know.

thanks for the writeup, i appreciate you taking the time.

>>16850676
The fuck?
I didn't know this I thought they were in highschool and she did it once at the end. What a bitch.
He's better off, how our the other girl's routes?
Does he date his students.

>>16850705
*are the other girls' routes.

>>16850676
That actually sounds really cool. I wish more games went out of their way to depict actually real characters like this instead of shooting for contrived wish fulfillment where protag always ends up being the happiest dude on earth.

>>16850772
Everybody likes real stories, but nobody buys them.

>>16850790
Well no, otaku hate real. Hence all virgin heroines forever.

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>>16850705
Ive done Ayane's route and enjoyed it somewhat. The buildup to the confession and the past that the MC shares with her was sappy and perhaps a bit melodramatic but found it to be very cute. I really got that sort of "stupid adolescent love" vibe from it. Ayane for a lack of a better word is pleasant. Shes very devoted to the MC and you can tell she is very much in love with him. Looking back at it now the scene where the MC completely forgets who she is after her transferring to his school just to be with him must have been heartbreaking for her.

Also, I wouldve liked more time spent between her and the MC after they had hooked up. It was kind of off putting having the MC be really pushy for sex despite just going out. I remember an EGS review also talked about that.

>>16850695
>in the fandisc
Basically, Flyable Heart does not have any NTR.

>>16850803
this looks so cute why would she blow him off three times?

>>16850772
Many eroge actually do this, they just don't advertise themselves as jun'ai moege.

>>16850772
I like the fact that the heroine actually has aspirations other than fucking MC or becoming a housewife, but I think they went too far. At that point she's just selfish and immature.

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Man I suck at this game.

>>16850772
Having a bitch character doesn't instantly make it realistic.

>>16851249
>but I think they went too far. At that point she's just selfish and immature.
Well that's how real people are. Why should there be a "limit"? Of course I don't want every girl in every game to be like this, but occasionally it's very refreshing.

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>>16851252

Did you get that legit? If so.. whoops. Even the game didn't think that's possible.

>>16851275
Are you implying real girls are all selfish pieces of shit who can't communicate with their partner while using him? Because that's not the case. Moebuta have a distorted view of reality but so do you. There are many ways to make a realistic character who's not a piece of shit. Although I agree it's refreshing, it was not a sane choice to have it in this kind of game, realistic or not. Although it has good reviews in EGS so I'm assuming most people didn't care that much or they included the other routes in their judgment.

>>16850772
In retrospect it is kind of cool, it's not common for an eroge to portray its heroine as a straight up manipulative, cruel person who is irredeemable. The actual experience of watching her unfold is unpleasant though, especially if you're expecting something light and romantic.

Also I love Kurasawa Moko's art. The loli character in this game is drawn by Shiratama (who just did Shugaten) and is very cute too.

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I like this girl from Unmei Yohou in terms of being realistic but not a piece of shit. She often says mean things because its her personality but she feels bad about it. I think that's normal. To be unable to help being a dick, but nonetheless feeling bad about hurting others.

>>16851342
>especially if you're expecting something light and romantic.
That's what caused it I think, the game itself advertised itself as a pure love game so people were expecting a happy ending, so when this happened people assumed Niijima did it to troll and shit on the fans. His response, though, made it seem he actually felt bad about it so he might have genuinely tried to go for the refreshing aspect. The producer also took responsibility.

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>>16851305
I know right, I guess I just suck at these kind of mystery games. I'm too used to VNs where either choice is fine, all it decides is which girl you get.

>>16851329
No, that wasn't implied anywhere one a bit.
>it was not a sane choice to have it in this kind of game
I disagree. Also 71 average is very low for EGS standards and basically a failure.

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>>16851344

Most "good" games have at least somewhat realistic characters. Sure, these are stories, so certain things will be rather unlikely to happen (i.e. several girls falling for the same random dude without much of a character), but that's fine. It's why you read stories or play games.

Of course, things like good characterization, growth and whatnot aren't easy and nowhere near as much rewarding as it should be. Otherwise Nekopara wouldn't be the most successful VN out there. Which is also why Minori's latest title puts all effort into graphics, voices, ero.. and kinda forgot about the plot. I'm sure it'll still be successful and well received on EGS.

>>16851403
>aren't easy and nowhere near as much rewarding as it should be
>puts all effort into graphics, voices, ero
This is part of why I like the trend of the good eroge writers going over to LNs. I prefer the VN medium but if the industry doesn't foster precious talent and is fine with hiring random hacks as writers...

>>16851520
>if the industry doesn't foster precious talent and is fine with hiring random hacks as writers...

That has nothing to do with the industry and everything to do with the consumers. If people are not buying your definition of "good" eroge, you can't blame companies for making the kinds games people are actually buying.

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>>16851252
>>16851360
Make sure you got Ushio's epilogue that takes place after the common route, the one with the H-scene since you can miss it if you didn't get proper flags. Same goes for the second game. Third game's main story treats both epilogues as canon.

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>>16851727
The first game was great, can't wait to get the trilogy and console only scenes on vita later this month. Leyline and Sen no Hatou get more hate than they deserve, I never understood why people disparaged them.

>>16851586
I said writers, not games. You can make games with mainstream appeal but still have them be incredible if you have a talented writer. Plenty of good games sell well too, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. So yes, you can blame companies because most of them are passionless and lazy, and it shows in their products.

>>16851864
>Leyline and Sen no Hatou get more hate than they deserve, I never understood why people disparaged them.
I've never actually seen people disparage Leyline apart from saying that the first game isn't as good as the second and third one, or some people dropping the series because of the first game's side heroine routes and the main story ending on a sequel hook. I myself also found the first game merely pretty decent, but was completely blown away by the second one, bar the optional side heroine routes of course.

>>16851874
Good writing does not automatically mean good sales is what I am trying to say. The consumers have moved the market to where it is. If people stopped buying games with bad writing, companies would stop making them.

>>16851907
Way to miss the point. No one is talking about what you just wrote.

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>>16851864
Sen no Hatou was just overly hyped, people were expecting another Eustia and while Senmomo was great compared to any ordinary VN, it was definitely nothing next to the incomparably amazing masterpiece that Eustia was. The higher the expectation, the greater the letdown.

http://www.hibiki-site.com/niiduma_lc/vr_event.html

>>16852043
I don't think the gap between the two is that big honestly. A lot of people have nostalgia for Eustia because of the amazing chapter 5 but the parts before that aren't very impressive either. Both games are just quick, entertaining popcorn reads for the most part.

>>16852043
i was expecting good comedy like daito, but in the fantasy setting and get MUH NIPPON STRONG with generic anime villains and very bland characters
>Senmomo was great compared to any ordinary VN
you right, comparing to some bad moege senmomo is true masterpiece.

>>16851907
It's true that companies are merely responding to incentives, but it's also true that people like the guy you're responding to are, by complaining about bad writing and blaming the companies, affecting their incentives.

>>16852073
You didn't like the themes of cultural conflict and hostile immigration? I thought the story had meaningful parallels with America's invasion of the middle east. Hiding their real intentions under the self righteous guise of dethroning tyrants. The brain washing that happens every morning where the republic tell the imperials why they were saved from tyranny by the albright was right out of the American play book.

Aspects of cultural warfare, and extreme blind patriotism, the albright republic wont even eat the same food as the empire and vice versa. The whole tension is unsustainable, the only way to resolve the tension is with cultural integration. Which why the half republic/imperial children are the most level headed.

There is a lot there if you are willing to read.

>>16852244
I don't mean to sound as if I'm assuming things about you. But those themes are so overdone in Japanese media they just make me want to bang my head against the wall. Shallow symbolism of American aggression in a pro-yamatodamashii work? Fuuuck, give it a rest already Japan.

>>16852164
And what I am saying is the writing would get better if people started buying games with good writing and stopped buying games with bad writing. Don't blame the company for following the money. Blame the consumer for being ok with bad writing.

>>16852244
As said I like how the themes came together in the end and can appreciate it in hindsight. But while playing? Chapter 1 is a dumb scooby doo hunt, chapter 2 is badly executed character drama + the villain was goofy as heck, chapter 3 first half was solely playing chess etc. I like the game but it's no flawed masterpiece and I feel the comparisons are overly critical of senmomo while ignoring all of Eustias flaws. They're roughly the same level imo, with Eustia being slightly ahead because of the ending.

>>16852260
You are assuming things about me, I hate those people that think an eroge is deep just because it mentions Kant or Nietzsche. However, the themes I mentioned are not undertones of the story they are front and center stage in the plot and the characters openly discuss them. I also only mentioned it because the other guy said there was nothing there when he clearly did not pay attention the novel if he honestly thinks that. Sorry if I came off as pretentious.

>>16852279
Ah ok, then we pretty much agree, sorry about that. I just don't think it's popcorn.

>>16852285
Nah you didn't. I would say I was thinking you may have been possibly coming across as potentially not very well read with Japanese literature. Because the themes you mentioned have been done to death to the point of me finding the mere idea of reading a story about them boring, much less actually reading it. It's been how many decades since LOGH?

>>16852300
I liked senmomo because of the character design, the writing and dialogue. I really liked the descriptive parts of the narrative in particular, I wish more vns would be so colorful.

>>16850065
http://www85.zippyshare.com/v/QniCW4s6/file.html

Dragging and dropping the .exe file on DenchiUnwrap and renaming the resulting .bin to .exe was enough to get this cracked. Should work on all older games sold on DMM protected with Soft Denchi, new ones use some weird Soft Denchi that doesn't encrypt anything and it looks like they started using PlayDRM last month.

>>16851344
Best girl. She's just blunt, that's all. About everything. And when she's being nice it's like weaponized cute. Her pre-route section was dangerous for my heart.

>>16852550
Is that file all I would need to run the game or would I need the original file too?

>>16851355
The thing that makes this trollish is that she pulls the same shit twice. Ok you want to do something new and fresh, have your main heroine turn out to be an asshole at the end of her route. Fine, whatever.

But then to go the extra mile and add an unlockable epiloge / true route where the same thing happens again? Yeah, at that point you're just making fun of your readers, fuck him.

>>16852761
Have you even read the game? I doubt it's 1:1 the same, don't rely on angry internet reviews too much.

>>16852761
it's not even an acceptable 'can't be helped' reason either. she wouldn't even talk to him about it? maybe sit him down and have a good long talk about considering options and their future? nope, she says yes let's get married and then runs off into the night like a one-night-stand dude afraid of commitment.

gah. if you don't make your drama believeable then all you get is reader rage. i know most stories only exist *because* the characters did not make the right decisions, but this is ridiculous. 'but wait, why didn't they just ____' is the fastest way to sink any enjoyment of a story.

shit, i'm getting mad just thinking about it. glad i didn't step on that landmine.

>>16852797
judging by the posts a ways above, i don't think anyone in this thread has.

>>16852761
I mean, if being ghosted by an anime girl is the end of the world to you, then sure, it might seem like Nijima is singling you out for persecution. Otherwise it just seems like a bummer ending.

>>16852822

Funny enough it's not this stuff that made me stay away from the game so far. It's actually the reason why I kinda want to read it.
But.. I'm pretty sure I heard it's generally SUUUPER boring. That's way more of an issue.

>>16852741
This crack? Replace the original .exe in the installation folder.

>>16852917
Multiple writer syndrome. I heard you can just ctrl the non-Sena girls and miss nothing.

>>16852244
Because America is fucking shit it doesn't mean you have to root for the MUH JAPAN STRONK PRAISE THE EMPEROR side. Elsa won every argument and they only could respond with f-f-fuck you. But of course this is a historical fantasy which portrays real events about Japan transitioning to parliamentary monarchy so I won't blame it for it.

>>16852983
>won every argument and they only could respond with f-f-fuck you.

More like "God wills it!", Akari is convinced that she has a god given right to rule because of the contract her
ancestors made for the land or whatever their creation myth is.

>>16853076
The sad part is that it's true and it really is her god-given right as a monarch.

Finally finished Silverio Trinity. Solid sequel to vendetta. I'm glad Ashley didn't die in the true end, despite dying in every other ending.

why is no one posting about 神様のゲーム? it seems well received on egs

>>16853277
Same, I was actively worried about it because the guy had a mostly shitty life, memories overwritten, personality mostly deleted,
tons of torture and dies a year after the game tops without Helios.
Made me happy.

>>16853284
It's on my backlog.

Where do you guys think some good places to get Japanese Vita games/VNs are? I am considering buying a Vita now that it's hacked but that depends on the availability of the roms.

>>16853565
Amazon.

>>16852917
Yeah this.
I didn't read Sena's route because I didn't particularly like her, and after the two routes I did read plus the common route generally being dull as fuck and plodding on I didn't really see a reason to.

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>>16853565
The psn store or Amazon.

>>16853569
>>16853940
You bunch of jokers, you. I'd already be breaking the bank to get a vita with a decent memory card in the first place, I don't have money for games. I guess I'll use the old standby of shady DDL sites with malware ads. I hope I don't have to learn how to use baidu or clubbox or PD/Share anytime soon.

>>16854063
Well your are going to be disappointed with the vita, hacked vitas constantly crash because a lot of the games were dumped using the broken leaked vitamin tools instead of maidump because too many people could not wait. So unless you are ok saving a lot it's not worth it. Also there are bugs that randomly delete your save files. I love my vita but there really is no point is piracy on the vita because you are just getting a worse product as none of the games have ero content. Also only games pre 3.60 are available to pirate. Leaving out a lot of exclusive vns like konosuba, recolove and rezero. Also if you were going to pirate why not pirate the pc version? If portability is your thing a windows tablet or just using a streaming app on your phone would be better. The only reason to own a vita for vns is if you are looking to collect and buy. The cases are nice and the games are cheap and accessible.

>>16854135
>you are just getting a worse product as none of the games have ero content.

Well, that's debatable... But you have a point, thanks for the innfo. I wanted to play P4G as well but a Vita TV would be a smarter investment for that purpose.

>>16854135
I have hacked vita, and I don't run into any of those problems. Although, I agree with your points on VNs on vita. I got it mostly for the kiseki series and stuff like robotics;notes.

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>>16854167
You also get lower resolution and are sometimes missing options like textbox transparency or text color. I remember there was a vn with white text and lots of white backgrounds with something like 90% transparency, it was awful to read.

Just get a psp, it has a better library anyways.

>>16854174
So do I and some of the games I have crash all the time. To be fair it's very game specific, the Ro Kyu Bu and oregairu games crash a lot.

>>16850676
It's like the VN version of Whiplash

I'm debating buying Daitoshokan on the vita to get all 3 in one and just pirate for the porn if I really feel the need.

>>16851360
She's so cute.
I don't know why people don't like her.

>>16854817
Jaded man here, I've seen girls with her character in over a hundred VNs at least. Her kind of cuteness (deredere which was never earned) just doesn't phase me.

>>16854844
I just kinda route for that kind of girl who's into a guy, it's so adorable.

If she doesn't win, I feel bad.

I guess she's more down to earth and normal, like a normal girl who crushes on a guy. Compared to some 100year old loli sadistic loli, or a tsunedere who can't express herself and hits a guy she likes.
This feels more genuine and honest, like you know she likes him and isn't being a spaz about it and just acts girly about it.

Not saying I don't like the other types but it's like comparing a regular girl in love that you see irl, to something in movies.

what VNs have great childhood friend routes? It's my favorite trope and I always feel bad if the childhood friend loses

>>16854874
I finished her route yesterday, she really is cute. But I wouldn't call her realistic or normal, her innocent purity and exaggerated deredere is completely different from anything you'd see IRL. It's because she's like the ideal dream girl that she's so cute and fun.

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Finally finished Eve: Burst Error A.
Everything after the first few hours until the ending was a drag. I feel the same story could have been told in half the lines.
The ending part, though, made me read for several hours without pause.

Back in the 90s this could have been close to mindblowing. Today, eh, I'm not sure it was worth the time.

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Sorry Unmei Yohou guy, my motivation to play the game is dropping pretty steadily. I like the depth to characters, especially the villain, but the bulk of it is still romcom which I'm struggling to maintain interest in despite the smattering of interesting ideas between jokes/relaxed convos.

>>16855054
that is unfortunate but understandable. i might recommend suisou ginka no istoria once you've had some time to cool down as it has similar story beats but with a much less typical romance setting, i.e. it's dramatic as all hell and has peoples' lives in the balance as opposed to 'which girl will you make sad' type thing.

tell me at least you liked Ringo and i'll be happy.

>>16855289
>Ringo
Route never

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>>16855298
that's the point
still makes me sad as fuck though.

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>>16854927
Saya from miagetegoran

>>16855289
Ringo was great, her dialogue was the best. That's why I felt sad when even the MC noted that now that he was in the "student council" he had started talking with Ringo a lot less. It was really smart to open with her as they did cause she makes it clear the writing's gonna be good, but it was a double edged sword because she ultimate is just a side character.

>>16855312
well to be fair every time he tried to talk to her after that she usually responded with 'stop talking to me, pretend like you're a cool kid now'.

at the risk of sounding like a broken record it's almost worth finishing it just to find out why she would do that, but hey, if it's not working for you there's no sense forcing it.

>>16855318
It's killing me not knowing what's up with senpai too but yeah the romance isn't doing it for me. If this were anything but a VN I'd finish it.

>>16855322
>If this were anything but a VN I'd finish it.
funny you say that, istoria is giving me similar vibes in that it feels like it maybe shouldn't have been a vn. on the other hand a large part of what makes the drama work is the player choice + only one girl can 'win' situation which is really only possible in a vn.

it's an odd sort of setup/situation and i'd love for an interview with the writer to figure out what the fuck is going through their head. it's like they hate the idea of writing for vns but yet understand how best to exploit the medium. but they've done more than half a dozen so far with clear improvements over each one so i guess there's gotta be some love there?

or something. i'm still going through the branch routes in istoria but it's giving me a lot i want to talk about when i finish.

if nothing else there's always kamimaho.

>>16855330
>it's like they hate the idea of writing for vns
I doubt it, Uguisu Kagura is Lucle's own brand, and he had a doujin circle before that.

>>16843713
Kanau best girl.

>>16853277
I read the Vendetta demo recently and it felt like it was trying really hard to be Dies Irae, down to protag's motivation. Felt cheap DESU. Then there are glowing reviews for the Orpheus (Vita) version everywhere I look.

I'm torn. I want something chuuni but I'm not a big Masada fan, especially post-DI (KKK put me to sleep).

What makes Vendetta good? Would be interested in impressions.

>>16855054
it was my main problem with the game. A lot of cool and unique for eroge ideas, but overall its just moege.

So did anyone play Palette's ９－nine－ここのつここのかここのいろ demo? The release of full game is in two weeks. I tried a bit of it and I liked it. The story is written by Nanairo guy, so its look promising. I especially liked the main heroine, she is really really cute, totally my type. A lot of you may find her boring or without personality though.
It has been 4 years since I played Palette last game, we finally will get a new game from them.

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>>16850316
Hey, wait a minute...

>>16855479
What got me interested was a different protagonist, that isn't somebody who braves up to face his destiny but a coward that would abandon his closest friends.
He was interesting in that that he diverges from fighting in that sense.

Haven't finished it but that stood out. The beginning feels a bit too much like die Irae though.

Is yuno or white album 2, the Citizen Kane of VNs?

>>16855764
What's Citizen Kane?

>>16855775
A sled.

>>16855764
I want to slap my dick across your face for that dumb post.

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>>16855479
Takahama(main guy behind Silverio) is Masada's right hand man and self-proclaimed number 1 fanboy. Before working on Silverio, he spent his entire VN career doing uncredited writing for Masada's works and routes for light's B team works, so you'd do well to expect some likeness to DI.
However, I'd say that doesn't go beyond style, structure and references. There's a great difference between what they actually focus on. While Masada is a "陽" kind of guy, Takahama is definitely more "陰".

If that's hard to understand, consider a generic scenario where a guy goes on a mission to save his people, comes out successful, but happens to kill a significant number of innocents while doing so.
Masada would present him as a hero who saved his people despite being burdened by guilt.
Takahama would present him as a villain for killing innocents. His goals be damned.

I'm sure there are many series which do such things better, but I still think Silverio is a must read for anyone with a thing for chuuni.

>>16855775
It's considered the best film of all time. Like ocarina of time is to video games
or to kill a mocking bird is to books

>>16855838
Ah, in that case Nekopara is the Citizen Kane of VNs.

>>16854927
Kakyuusei 2

>>16855846
Didn't know people here liked that.

The most popular VNs I'd say are clannad, umineko, utawaremono, muramasa, dies irae, fate/stay, danganronpa, 999, subahibi, SnU, white album 2, muv-luv, rance at the top of my head.

>>16855838
Or another proof all popular rankings suck. It's a good movie, though.

>>16855870
>umineko
>999
>popular
are you retarded?
And dies, ronpa, snu, utawarerumono is nowhere popular as something like s;g or yuno.

I agree with the others but Danganronpa is pretty popular now like really popular.

>>16855903
meant to quote
>>16855895

>>16855870
>like

That doesn't really matter. Nekopara is the most successful title out there. Everyone who knows VN and isn't behind a moon knows it. Even people who have no idea what "VN" stand for may know it, if you show them an image. You could even call it a meme or whatever. It's not what people in this thread will talk about, especially with those games being like 2 hours long and utterly unremarkable, even for moege. (aside of the e-mote, but.. well)

>>16855913
I just looked it up
>1million copies
>seems pretty high I guess
>look up other popular vns
>they barely hit 50 thousand
What the fuck?
Steins gate and danganronpa are probably the highest after it.

Phoenix Wright still tops it with over 5million but that's a series.

>>16855903
how that piece of shit ever got a sequel, much less an entire franchise, I'll never know

>>16855913
nekopara is low price game, so those millions sells isn't as successful as you would think.

>>16855913
I don't mean the most financial successful or the most popular.
Which would Avatar or the titanic.

But what the best VN is or what many consider the best to be.

>>16855984
Too retarded to open up EGS or something?

>>16855895
Not really. Even the most ignorant anime fan is aware of DG. Yuno is far below in popularity.

>>16855984
yuno

>>16855977
The first game is pretty much garbage and outdated now, I find it hard to recommend to people, but the second game is perhaps one of my favourite games of all time same with v3.

They are amazing in the final two chapters they are like if Phoenix Wright went overboard and kept going.

>>16855982

Low price and low budget. Also it's not even that low price here. I think if you want the 18+ version here you'd need to pay 20 bucks. That's half (or even more) than many full-price works cost. No idea how expensive it was in Japan.

That said, the sales-difference is big enough that it's not unlikely Nekopara is more successful than any other VN out there. (And seeing how Phoenix Wright was mentioned.. that's not even a VN if you ask me. Way too much gameplay, and unlike Danganronpa or 999 no longer novel sections either.. at least not in the first one. Most I saw was like 20 textboxes before I had some kind of stuff to do. My biggest issue with it actually.)

>>16856063
>low budget
did you even play nekopara?

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What's your favourite type of girl?

I like girls that aren't mean like non-tsunderes, and non-comically violent.

Like deredere, imouto, genki and osanajimis. They can be joking and friendly and poke fun but nothing brash, mean or violent.

I like girls that blush and act cute, overall girly.

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>>16856328
Nadeshiko types with japanese clothing, long dark hair and hime cut. Preferably miko or deity. Keigo, hair ornament and deredere are a plus.

I still have not found her in a non nukige, only bits and pieces.

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>>16856382
Do you consider a lot of games to be nukige, like the top game in your image or Amakano?

>>16856399
>Amakano
I have not read it, I was not big on the art when someone recommended it to me.. I'll check it out though. As for どし黒, the girls all the girls are missing a trait or two to be perfect for me. Urara is not a nadeshiko, Ichiyouhime is also not a nadeshiko and she does not have a hime cut, Sakuyahime does not have hime cut. The plot is kind of silly but it's far from a nukige.

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>>16856328

My favorite type is probably little devils. Pic is an example, or girls like Senren Banka's Mako (mostly outside of her route though), Chaos;Child's Hinae, Shinsou Noise's Sara or Tonakoi's Rina (again her route.. messed her up) and such.

>>16856685
Why does she wear a couch on her head?

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>>16856848

She likes Touhou.

Has there even been a single good eroge released so far in 2017?

>>16856961
Sukebe Elf
Kagai Jugyou soon

>>16856961
Multiple, even.

>>16856961
Only for people that actually enjoy eroge.

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>>16856961

Is the 2008 Sakura no Uta demo worth reading?

>>16856966
>Kagai Jugyou soon
No teacher heroine, why should I look forward to this trash. Someone bring back Kagami and make them do another Mesu Kyoushi or something plz.

>>16856976
>Only for people that like tasteless moege.

fixed

>>16856685
>>16856848
I want to play this for couch head but I'm afraid it'll be garbo. One day

>>16856328
Good taste anon, I like those too, but everyone call them boring and without personality or girls shouldn't be submissive and stuff.

>>16856382
Tsumi no Hikari Rendezvous

>>16857660
Looks good, I'll check it out! Feeling good about minori after Trinoline. How often is the miko in traditional clothing? It doesn't count for me unless it's a significant amount of scenes.

>>16857715
>Feeling good about minori after Trinoline.
How was it? Particularly Sara's route.

>>16856382
>Nadeshiko types
You're my natural enemy.

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I like how this Karin here is voice by the same one who voices Karin from Yuuki Yuuna. Being a chuuni also "helps". A fun little coincidence.

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Guy that everyone bullied over Subahibi a little while back. I finished the Looking-Glass Insects Kimika route (pretty cool) and now I have to do true route. Can I just, like, ctrl over everything until Mamiya or Otonashi pops up without missing any important details? I don't see much value in reading these scenes.

>>16858243
You sound like someone who skipped the teacher bike scene. In which case you are already disqualified from being able to appreciate Subahibi properly, so go wild.

>>16858270

Yeah yeah enough with the elitism. I didn't find the bike scene disturbing at all, and as such I didn't skip or skim, but by the end of it I was wishing I had.

>I'm free from the shackles of society!
>Damn it feels good to be a perv!
>Thanks Mamiya-sama!
>I'm free from the shackles of society!
>Damn it feels good to be a perv!
>Thanks Mamiya-sama!
>I'm free from the shackles of society!
>Damn it feels good to be a perv!
>Thanks Mamiya-sama!
>I'm free from the shackles of society!
>Damn it feels good to be a perv!
>Thanks Mamiya-sama!

For like 200 lines. マジくどい. Shut the fuck up already Sca-ji I get the point. It is rather jarring how this VN can go from so gripping to so tedious from scene to scene. All-ages release when?

>>16858297
You could have just read Beyond Good and Evil and have learned everything subahibi/Sca-ji pretends to teach you. Then you could skip the whole game and read something interesting.

>>16858297
He didn't write the teacher h-scenes

>>16858243
subahibi is not for you, just drop the game and read something you like more

>>16858243
Yeah, I ctrl'd through all the bullying scenes too, not because I thought it was disturbing, but mainly because I thought they were boring.

Anyone here played Lose's first title, Gothic Delusion? It looks interesting

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A yes, Isobe. Almost forgot that slimy faggot. He always makes me wish someone would punch his face but at the same time I'm reminded of what a pathetic clown he is. It's like Kunagasa wanted to create a character one loves to hate.

>>16858334
Well, that's good, I guess.

>>16858327
>>16858347
I do like it though. It's intriguing, I wanna find out what's happening with all the characters. Just the bullying scenes enrage me due to my personal biases and I don't find the H-scenes erotic so they are an absolute chore and I skim or skip. Aside from these scenes I do not feel like there is a lot of filler content so it's fun to read when it's not either of those.

>>16858379
At least someone understands me

>>16856328
My favorite type is those voiced by 風音.

>>16856328
Deredere, kouhai, familial, genki, petite.

Also characters that wear berets. There needs to be more of that.

>>16856328
Genki kouhais, koakuma-kei if possible but not nessarily, the ones who call the MC senpai all the fucking day.
Love them.

>>16858243
I'll agree with other posters that you should man up, though not that you should drop it. Zakuro's chapter is the heaviest in terms of enraging shit that makes you want to throw your PC out of the window and the chapters after that are a lot mellower in comparison to the rest of the game, so you should hold on even if you find that chapter unbearable.

I personally enjoyed getting mad.

>>16856328
Feisty girls who have some friction with the MC. They make back and forth conversations fun.

Shy, meek girls are just boring.

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>>16858478
>Also characters that wear berets. There needs to be more of that.

You might want to check out 春音アリス*グラム in May. Im mainly going to try it out for beret character but the other designs look good as well.

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>>16858478
>Also characters that wear berets.
You know your shit my man.

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>Try Natsu no Kusari
>Get to first scene
>Girl keeps moaning in between dialogue
>"Oh, nice. Keeps the boner going. I wish this was more common."
>Get to blowjob scene
>Those blowjob sounds
>They also kept going even after the dialogue

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>>16856990
I just wish the tits wouldn't be so ridiculous.

>>16859437
How can anyone find those abominations attractive?

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>>16859463
By not being gay.

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>>16859489
So /tg/ was right about elves.

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>>16859489

>>16859400
Happens all the time. Gotta disable the BGV if you disable the voice cut. Some games with a more intelligent engine start playing the BGV after the voice ends though.

>>16859545
I just meant that the sounds were harrowing. I felt like they were taken from those Saya no Uta talking meats.

>>16859553
Picked up, thanks.

Does anyone else feel that their fingers get sore from Baldr Sky gameplay? After there's a big gameplay section I don't even feel like reading afterwards desu, I die so many times and the gameplay feels like a major pain but I feel like if I drop the difficulty down to 'easy' or 'very easy' then the game wouldn't be worth playing at all.

>>16859680
I played it on medium and switched to easy during Makoto's route. The story was what mattered to me the most so I had no dilemmas there.

>>16859753
Yeah, Makoto route is hard to do the first time. She loves to shower you with laser and very hard to approach. Still more manageable than that one White Rabbit fight in Baldr Bullet though.

>>16858243
This is the worst thing about you EOPs-who-recently-learned-enough-Japanese-to-somewhat-be-able-to-read-something.

You want to be in the "in the know", but you don't want to actually read.

In reality you should do whatever the fuck you want, read what you enjoy. Skipping in Subahibi is stupid of course, but do it if you want to, who's gonna stop you?

>>16858038
I wanted to play this for the longest time how is it?

>>16860042
To be fair, there's not much to gain from reading the scenes he's talking about.

>>16860042
I feel like there are more and more of those types in this thread. They only play recent games and the handful of "certified kamige" that get circlejerked about here. Ultimately people can play whatever they want but it does make discussion around here a bit bland. Plus you get people talking like they know a lot more than they do. "Sakura no Uta is the best eroge ever and I should know, I've played a dozen of them."

>>16860197
yeah it should be Yuno

>>16860211
>yeah it should be nekopara
ftfy

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>>16859680
I started with Heart and then in 3 months I went through it, Heart Exe, Sky and Sky Zero. I played most of them on Easy and even then when I was done my gamepad was falling apart and my thumb took two days to stop hurting. Still it was lots of fun.

>>16860197
Sakura no Uta is brilliant, even if you like different games more.

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Amayui trial is out.

Anyone have clear world map of Eushully world?
I recalled someone shared it here long ago.

>>16859680
I played Force and Bullet before Sky, so I had no problem playing on Normal on first run. If Sky is hard for you, you'll probably have even more troubles with Heart since it's a lot more challenging.

>>16859680

I'm past considering Baldr Sky's gameplay good. Way too many enemies are just annoying, in a bad way, and 80% of the weapons are simply useless. Add to that the way you unlock weapons and shit, and you got yourself a nice combination of REALLY NOT FUN. Just go very easy, and use cheat-engine to give yourself enough "money". (pretty easy to do) If you still want to unlock weapons, very easy can be actually pretty hard and annoying, because you'll have to use a lot of stuff which is super bad, and can't really go much about "good combos". Otherwise, just use what's good and don't care too much.
Speaking about combos, that was also very well done. So you set-up a nice combo that uses just the right heat? Joke's on you, heat use goes down for weapons, so soon it's not a nice combo anymore~

I don't know. The controls are fine, the game SEEMS super fun at first, but I feel they really fucked it up with the weapon and enemy design as well as the way you unlock stuff. I had way more fun with Material Brave's gameplay, which was actually a blast to play on high difficulty, although it did have a weak endgame. If you did all quests you'd end up rather OP. Kinda normal I suppose.. but still.

>>16860197
Sakura no Uta is a work of art and not just an eroge.
btw I really like this op cover
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xvYNaOU-Kfw

>all those plebs in this thread playing Baldr on either easy or normal
>one is even cheating
What in the fuck. I guess that's a reminder to never take an opinion here too seriously

>>16860379
Go masturbate elsewhere I'm not in the mood for nerd semen right now.

>>16860332
I'm too /v/ for this level of scrub.
>So you set-up a nice combo that uses just the right heat? Joke's on you, heat use goes down for weapons, so soon it's not a nice combo anymore~
That's the part where you add more weapons to the combo and make it even nicer than it was before, you dim motherfucker.
You sound like someone whose only level 3 weapons are the ones you started with.

>>16860411

You have limited space. When I set-up stuff, I have all slots full and have their use in one or more different combos. So I either have the combos get worse, or I have to break up everything and make a whole new set-up. Which will once again turn to shit for all the wrong reasons.

Also, try not to be so offensive. That just makes it sound like you had no fun with the game and somehow need to let it out on people who try to have fun with the game. Like >>16860379 does.

>>16860450
Translation: I'm horrible at the game and refuse to improve myself so I just cheat / blame it on the games mechanics.

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The gameplay is still similar with Kamidori, and they enhance it with Live2D to make our character and the enemy moving in the battle.

>>16860450
>So I either have the combos get worse, or I have to break up everything and make a whole new set-up. Which will once again turn to shit for all the wrong reasons.
So you just have no patience for the constant loop between "weapon grinding" and "combo designing", eh?
Fair, but it sure as hell ain't the game's fault.

>>16860379
>all those plebs in this thread playing Baldr on either easy or normal
To be fair it depends on which entry in the series. VH on Force is still easy, but on Heart it's just suicide to do it in some fights without proper equipment (like those battle with elite enemies in tight space), plus it's a lot more efficient to play on Hard or even Normal if you are doing weapon grinding.

>>16860607
I found force to be the hardest between force sky and heart, it actually took me a lot of tries to beat the final battle to get all of the endings. Although that's probably because I didn't really take the time to get invested into the system, since it wasn't as polished/fun. On the other hand, I spent whole days finding combos in heart and doing VH runs.

>>16860465

I'm actually not. But just because I'm able to play it on hard-mode, it doesn't mean that it's fun. I actually never even had a game-over on hard-mode. Because the game isn't hard. At most it's annoying, as you just have to abuse a few tools you have. You know, when enemies don't stagger with melee, gotta stay back and abuse those ranged weapons. It's cheap. And not particularly fun. It doesn't matter if I do so for 10 seconds or 30.

>>16860525

The problem is, that there's way too much grind. (and most weapons simply suck) That IS the game's fault. I like to experiment around, so I tried a bunch of abilities, but some things are just so obviously inferior to other options you have. And then you have to grind them to unlock completely unrelated abilities that could be good or suck. Are people really liking this system?

I feel that a good parallel to this game is Star Ocean 3. There you have Stamina limiting your combos and it's a bit different with weak vs. strong attacks, but it's roughly comparable. You also have moves that improve as you use them. However, it's only that move. If you don't like it, don't use it. That's fine. Can't do that in Baldr Sky. The way you unlock new weapons in combination with really limited money is pretty ass. Honestly, I'd be totally fine with the game if the weapon unlocking wouldn't require you to use random shit you'd never use otherwise or there at least being an easy way to grind stuff. But, alas, Baldr Sky has no easy grinding. You always have to skip through the story which takes a while. The "skip to next choice/battle setup" also doesn't work during any "mecha" segment.

>>16860470
Any new features? Does it have city building?

>>16860197
>They only play recent games
I don't think people that are new to vns are reading vns released in the last 2-3 months, what do you mean by recent games?

>and the handful of "certified kamige" that get circlejerked about here.
This is probably the case for most new incomers, not sure if you guys have noticed the surge of people that suddenly want to talk Sakura no Uta and C;C.

>>16860653
>and most weapons simply suck
Not when fully leveled, which takes us back to the "weapon grind" point and you simply not liking it.
Ever tried the weapon I・A・I? Did you test it out at lvl 1 and instantly decide it was shit due to taking too long to start and being a pain to land on an enemy?
Guess what, it's actually the best weapon in the game and makes just about every high-level aerial combo come together.

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>>16860766
Yes. This game have both home upgrade feature from Kamidori and city building from Madou Koukaku.

>>16860946
Sounds nice and looks like they found a good upgrade for an already solid system with all the experimenting.

I did really like Madou's city building/management and also drastic gameplay changes depending on the magic/magitech routes like being able
to build special monster capturing facilities only at the capitals to unlock new variants for synthesis. Although I'm sure it was a chore for most people.

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>>16861008
We might gonna spend hours to farm enough materials to upgrade our HQ and create stuffs too.

Not going to bother with Amayui after taking a look at the heroines.

Eushully going for a specific audience this time huh.

cute

https://youtu.be/A7APdPM-poQ

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>>16861067
If the main heroine's a Ryun clone its already 10/10 from me. Still mad there were no other doll specific routes.

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>>16861179
At very least, there is several cute lolies on it.

>>16861183
>Several
I think you meant the majority

>>16861183
They all seem 元気 as hell

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>>16861183
Live2D and loli is bad pair.

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>>16861506
WTF, is she nopan?

>>16861217
Seems balanced, good amount of big tits.

Tried the trial for Amayui, so far liking it, though, I wonder if its confirmed they are allowing us to make all the alternative costumes and stuff or not

Collecting materials for your next fanservice costume was one of the more memorable things from Kamidori for me

Also, I suppose its already a given that theres only one route this time or not?

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It seems we're gonna get Valefor and Lily on the appendix.

When does Saihate no Ima stop being boring?

>>16861779
When you click on the exe.

>>16860653
I agree that the unlock system of Sky isn't the best and Heart improves it by tying weapons into specific families (instead of a stricter unlock tree) where using one of them unlocks new ones in the same family + new weapon families altogether, so you're only "forced" to use one weapon in the family and can ignore others if you don't like them.

However I like unlocking and improving weapons itself as a thing as it encourages experimentation and changing up your playstyle once in a while rather than just finding a combo that works for you and then using only it for the rest of the game.

Also, I don't really remember any particular enemies being completely immune to stagger, at most they were resistant to it. Been a while since I played Sky, but at least Heart had enemies with a separate knockback meter (laid over their HP bar) that filled during their certain moves or otherwise when in defensive stance in case of heavier foes and when they set it up you just opted to attack another enemy instead. Only times I found myself relying on ranged weapons abuse was at the start of Sky when I wasn't yet familiar familiar with the game (and dual SMG + chain gun was so god damn powerful) or one particular battle in Mao's route in Heart where every single enemy in that battle had rapid fire ranged weapons with combo interrupting attacks.

In general I found both games' Hard difficulty just right, lower ones were way too easy and Very Hard was plain rape mode.

>>16860056

As far as I've played (a bit past the common route) pretty average. The first chapter is pretty terrible for a first chapter, but overall the characters are fine, it's not too boring although nothing happens and so far didn't overstay its welcome. I doubt I'll be reading much more than one route though, and this is really more "filler" than anything else.

The only really special thing is that you can play it relatively nicely fullscreen on a 1080p screen. It's 4/3 aspect-ratio, but the resolution is 1280x960. Meaning black bars to the left and right, but it doesn't need to get upscaled a lot. Music is a bit above average as well.

>>16861779
when you run the uninstaller

>>16861779
Go straight to Fueko's route if you want to get weird shit fast. In general there's no that much bigger "shit hits the fan moment" where the pace noticeably picks up, it's more about piecing together the mystery.

>>16860197
I think you're being too harsh in thinking that people are just trying to fit in. The certified kamige and the current stuff are the obvious place to start, if you want to be able to have a discussion about the things you play.

>>16859532
nicely written/5

What /jp/ think about this? Is it good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY3x-hK3c4M

>>16860925
Not him but I got to try out I・A・I in the gold trial, so I knew how good it was before even starting the main game.

Speaking of which, the worst grinding I had was on the drill in Sky. That thing was painful to max out compared to the rest of the weapons, and it sucked ass before reaching lv3.

>>16862238
I have have never been able to finish a route in any Cation game because of how uninteresting most of the girls and scenarios are, and I really want to get into the series.

>>16862279
Tried LxC2?

>>16862286
For Seine yes, she looks like a goddess but god she was boring.

>>16862302
How was she boring, dude. She has aspirations of her own, unique hobbies, etc. To me she was a lot more interesting than most girls in dating sims.

>>16862302
Seine was amazing, you're wrong. She was fun and had lots of hobbies she enjoyed talking about.

>>16862310
I just did not find her entertaining, I'm sure there are people that would enjoy her, sadly I am not one of them. Asking me why I did not like her is like asking a person why they find chocolate more delicious than strawberry.

>>16862302
Try one of the other heroines. I agree she is the most boring, her archtype doesn't do it for me (I also think her design is unattractive though)

>>16862312
Trust me, I WANT to love her, but one day when deciding if I wanted to keep reading I decided to uninstall.

>>16862316
Wow, thanks for that in-depth post. You really supported your point and moved the conversation forward.

>>16862316
Seine was really weird, and her personality was quite surprising in a good way in my opinion but I couldn't really be arsed to finish her or Wako's route either in the end. I personally loved Hime and Hinata though, so it's most likely personal tastes like you said. And Aya in the first game is great if you want to see a loner gamer protagonist paired with a loner gamer heroine.

>>16859437
I don't even mind them. Most of the time I'm looking at the girls' faces than at their breasts, unless it's an actual sex scene.

>>16862333
I don't have a point, I am not trying to convince anyone of anything, this is not an argument. I am admitting to being in the wrong, I want to like the games. However, I am not going participate in a discourse of a Cation game as if it were fine art, especially when I have not finished one.

>>16862323
She was the one that caught my eye. I should have given the other girls a chance but I figured that if the one that caught my eye did not do it, I probably would not like the others.

>>16860197
God forbid newcomers read recent stuff and critically acclaimed older works. They should lurk for 5 years before even considering posting anything except bargain bin 2004 nukige.

>>16862468
I think his complaint is more about eop that "read" 10-12 vns using a text hooker and think they are an authority on vns.

>>16860197
What were the last five VNs you've read? vndb acc with finished dates preferably, so you can't just make them up on the spot.

Since Amayui Castle Meister's trial is out, mind if any of the anons that has played it share their impressions if it seems good or not?

Seeing the last few Eushully games made me feel disappointed

>>16862513
>vndb acc with finished dates preferably,
Not everyone that reads vns is as autistic as that. Asking for someone's vndb is as autistic as asking for someone's MAL account because you want to check on their anime watching habits. Also, do a lot of people here bother with vndb when they can just go to egs?

Not even that guy btw.

>>16862550
I prefer VNDB over EGS because the CSS is far less cancerous and sorting things to my liking is far more convenient. Plus images on EGS always link back to DMM or whatever whereas VNDB hosts them itself.

>>16862550
I'm asking this one person in particular because he made a bold statement and I am 99% sure he is a hypocrite who can't back it up.

Stop using buzzwords by the way, your habits from other places you're visiting are leaking. vndb is a handy tool that takes no time to setup or maintain.

>>16862563
Yea I love the trait sorting in vndb, it's very intuitive. The discussion there is pretty garbage for new games. The scores are pretty worthless, there are too many accounts with only 3-5 votes, all 10/10 or 1/10.

>>16862550

EGS is great to get information about a specific VN, but bad for finding new stuff. Vndb is good for finding new stuff, but kinda bad about finding information about these.
In other words, unless you know what to look up, vndb is the way to go. Once you have some names, you'd go to EGS.

Vndb really has some mighty tags and handles characters better than EGS as well. Comes in handy.

>>16862593
I go to EGS for information about specific VNs when I'm interested in them in particular, but for recording the games I play and general usage, VNDB is pretty much perfect.

>>16862550
I can't use EGS because I'm not aware of a free proxy that works for it. I've never had to figure one out when I can get everything on western sites and vndb is good enough.

>>16862513
vndb has finished dates?

>>16862666
Does Omaera not work for you?
http://egs.omaera.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/

>>16862666
EGS has reviews which is the main reason to use it. Like you see a guy who wrote a 5000 word review about a game and you agree with him on everything, then you can check out what other games he rates highly etc. This is how I find pretty much all my games to play and am rarely disappointed. Often times people have hidden gems in their 80-100 score range that has never even been mentioned here once.

>>16862691
That works, thanks. I remember it didn't work when when I tried to see what evenicle's length is so I assumed it's regionlocked.

>>16862706
>Often times people have hidden gems in their 80-100 score range that has never even been mentioned here once.

Any examples?

>>16863108
I haven't read this myself but I saw someone give
https://vndb.org/v11645
a 100 on EGS with a rave review, yet I've never heard anyone talk about it in the west. It even has a 4 score on VNDB with two votes despite an 80 on EGS.

>>16863108
Guy who has played 200+ games has this https://vndb.org/v11645 as his one and only 100 rating. The games after that in the 90 range are stuff like Ima, Kagerou, Gunjou etc. so you know he has good taste.

>>16863145
>>16863147
That's the egs user Moogy follow the most by the way

>>16863145
VNDB votes suffer from a small sample size for most untranslated/old works, not surprising that a bunch of works have 1-2 mediocre ratings and become mostly ignored

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>>16863108
>>16863145
Oh yeah, and I played pic related after seeing rave reviews on EGS despite it having literally 1 vote on VNDB, and it was pretty funny, a good read. EGS is definitely a good way to find kamige overlooked by the west I think.
>>16863147
B-Brother...!
>>16863156
Neat.

>>16862468
Are there even "critically acclaimed" eroge? I'm not aware of any professional eroge critics. Most people here don't even read the full range of classics, just the few that other people in this thread love.

So with Setoguchi's new title coming out next year, what do you think of Carnival?

>>16863387
Not really, vns critics are a real niche circle jerk of elitist and I don't know a single person that gets paid to do it, so it's difficult to even call them professionals. Doesn't moogy still live with his mom? Last time I was on the vn discord he said he didn't even have a job.

>>16861816
Too bad feng's last major title they announced back in 2012 or whatever seems like it's vaporware at this point.
Their game's weren't the greatest but I enjoyed basically all of them.

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>>16862516
It's quite good for me.
I can't tell much about the story since it's still on trial, but the gameplay-wise, it's kinda like mixing both Kamidori and Madou Koukaku.

Since this will require a lot of farming materials, I'm sure it was a chore for most people.

Eushully definitely put some effort on the worldmap too. There is movement for the clouds and random birds group. Not to mention the map is quite vast, which we will able to satisfy our lust to explore it later on.

Oh also, the Live2D in the battle is interesting.
In the end of trial, you will fight a blue winged-spirit ikemen, I love the way he moving his wing as the battle goes.

>>16863686
Wish I could try but my speed for it is shit.

>>16863686
Was it ever confirmed if it will have stuff like multiple routes or not and whether will it have...craftable costumes?

While I dont really mind if the game turned out to be more linear since I found that going through all the routes in Kamidori became quite a chore, I quite loved the costume crafting

Because I am a pervert like that