Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1773

Happy holidays /djt/. Hope your reps go extra well today!

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そりゃ早かったな。

よくやったね、あのんくんよ！

>>16313273
Yesterday I had my worst score to date, 44 missed cards, or 19% (generally it's 10%).

Do not do your reps while struggling to keep awake!

>>16313304
Unless you procrastinated them until right before you go to sleep. In that case you have no choice but to do them

Reminder, your thread is here.

>>>/int/69017173

>>>/int/69017173

>>>/int/69017173

>>16313401
Nah, sorry.

>>16313401
Its also here
>>16313259

>>16313269
>>16313401
>>16313494

ヤ

メ

ロ

ッ

！

>>16311976
gen.lib.rus.ec

メリークリスマス！

>>16313629
もうクリスマスじゃないけど

>>16313622
Does that have any Japanese books? I couldn't find any.

>>16313629
リクマイアッス

What do younger siblings usually call their older siblings?
おにい/おねえちゃん、あに/あね or by their name with or without honorific?
What are the differences?

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>>16313725
恋人

What would be the best way to say "Would you like me to take your photo?"?
I'd just like to know because I'd rather not seem anyone fidgeting cluelessly over a photo if I end up going to Japan again. I would assume "写真を撮ってあげますか" to be it, but I'm not sure.
Also, is there any better way to ask where a place is? My friend told me everyone says "どこですか", but is there something just as/more commonly used with a closer meaning to "Do you know where" something is?

こどもみんな水たまりが好きだな　ーｔ．おとうちゃん
大人、大きいから、海が好き
ーｔ．よつば

ｗ

>>16313819
写真を取ってもいいですか？　Is good enough

>>16313806
俺のちんこが硬くて。。。

>>16313861
英語が出来ないか日本語ができないかどっちかな
多分英語が出来ない日本人だと思う
彼が言いたいことをわかってないからそんなことを言う

>>16313819
What is this situation where you have to ask a Japanese person if they want you to take a photo for them?

>>16313890
what are you even trying to say

>>16313926
I gathered he was insulting my Japanese or something.

>>16313923
I was on some island in Hiroshima and there were two girls trying to take a photo. It took them about five minutes before they gestured with their camera asking if I could take it for them.
This is only one example, though.

>>16313819
I'd probably use あげましょうか instead, otherwise seems fine

>>16313819
>Also, is there any better way to ask where a place is? My friend told me everyone says "どこですか", but is there something just as/more commonly used with a closer meaning to "Do you know where" something is?
I would say something like 「すみません、placeはどこにありますか知っていますか？」

My ten of dreams turned inside out.
Happy times turn to dust
My words frozen in a machine

knock knock knock, embrace the silence
punching the wall
I had something important to say but it never came out
knock knock knock, embrace the dark starry sky
lost in the void of space
Welcome to loneliness.

In our town sunk to the bottom of the sea,
your smile fades away in the trees.
I can speak only of regret
like a game, destroy the light

knock knock knock, dreams of heartbreak overflow
my mouth, my ears my eyes are overflowing
putting endless anime into my brain
knockn kocnk kocnk because of the lack of gravity
floating like a wooden doll
welcome to loneliness

I have to give credit for people who translate songs, it makes no sense in english.

>>16314005
It makes no sense in Japanese either.

>>16314010
But it sounds pretty

>>16314010
>>16314014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ei2izPLpHc&index=2&list=RDKCgr3dj5mqY

i was gonna ask if you terds learned japanese yet but then i saw this >>16313890

youtu.be/7B3k5sTX0CE#t=230

I've been gone for a bit, why the fuck are these threads not on /a/ anymore?

>>16314197
i /a/ssassinated them it was 超簡単

>>16314197
http://djtguide.neocities.org/
Bottom of the page. If you have anything to say about it, please post on the meta board: >>>/qa/

>>16314203
christ the /a/ mods went full retard

Please transcribe 7:45 to 8:08

https://youtu.be/EFfYJAIl4Yk?t=465

9:10 - 9:20
https://youtu.be/EFfYJAIl4Yk?t=550
ぜんしんぼ??


Thanks

>>16314263
ステージの上だもう後戻りはできない
あれさくらさんの妹でしょう
そうよ、バカでしかたないのよあいつ
漏れそう、どうしよう、今からステージ降りて行こうかな、漏らすよりいいよね
あのバカ、なに一人だけきょろきょろしてんのよ、薄笑いまで浮かべて

>>16314263
全身膀胱人間

>>16314263
Not your personal transcriber

>>16314263
全身後光人間であった

>>16314263
中出しの喜び

>>16314263
I actually thought it was 全身母后.

いつも性欲の強さに圧倒される
相変わらず、今日も一日悲しいパンダしか何もしなかった
どうしようかなあ

>>16314412
シコって悩み事を蹴っ飛ばす

>>16314412
what are you even doing past the one hour mark

>>16314413
まあね
仕方のないことかもしれん
>>16314416
Obviously it's not like I have 10 wanks per day, but I spend hours and hours edging and reading stuff. I mean, technically it's reading practice, but I feel like I've already learned enough synonyms for genitals.

Is memrise any good? I have a mining deck right now but I stopped studying Japanese for a year and would like a refresher course. Seeing stupid basic words that I forget is humiliating. I literally forgot what 金星 meant today.

>>16314433
Use Anki instead. It's more flexible and doesn't require an internet connection or premium subscription bullshit.

>>16314263
you made me remember to ask this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS4rfjVNKYA
what is the faggot saying at 24:05-24:09

i can't even comprehend anything he says

>>16314426
何でエロゲよりエロ漫画のほうが好き？
エロゲの画像のほうがいいのに
エロゲにBGMや声優の声があるのに

年末が近づくとスーパーのお客さんもすごく増えますが、今の職場は24時間営業で、しかも赤字続き。時給が安いのでアルバイトも先月でほとんどが辞め、夜のシフトは経営者である店長と私の2人だけ。
　実は店長の奥様が脳梗塞を起こし入院中で「夢の経営者になれたと思ったら…。こんなはずじゃなかった」と意気消沈。
　だから、彼を支えてあげたくなったの。そんな深夜、急に客足が途切れ、「少し休もうか」と言われました。
　束の間の休憩は狭い事務室でコーヒータイム。私は店長に好意を持っているので、2人きりになれる幸せを噛みしめていました。

　そんな中、ポツリと「妻の入院中、君がいなければ俺は首を吊っていた。感謝しているよ」とお礼を言われ、目がウルウルしちゃいました。
　「お礼に舐めさせてくれないか？　クンニだけは自信あるから」
　彼は本気でした。だけど、お互い既婚者なので「して」なんて言えません。
　「今日破棄するお弁当と同じで、私はもう賞味期限切れです。それでもいいの？」
　「何言ってる！　まだまだ十分新鮮だから」
　有無を言わせず、私のジーンズを下げ、畳んだ段ボール箱に私を押し倒しました。「ダメよ、ダメ」と抵抗しながらも、クンニされたい気持ちが上回ります。

　迷っているうちにパンツを脱がされ、小陰唇を軽く吸いながらゆっくりと舌で膣口を舐められます。
　「変になっちゃう！」
　思わず大声で叫んでいました。早く大きくなった真珠を舌で転がしてほしいのに、ジラすつもりなのかブラの中に手を入れ、両乳首をいじります。
　「ああん、許してください。乳首でイッちゃう～っ」
　あまりの快感にヒクヒクしながら昇天しちゃいました。全身の力が抜けていると、徐々にクリトリスを皮ごと舐め上げ、次に勃起した真珠を吸いながら熱い息を吹きかけます。
　全身が激しく痙攣し、何度も膣が収縮を繰り返し、目の前が真っ白になって深い快楽に達しました。

　起き上がれないほどグッタリしていると、お客を知らせるチャイムが…。
　「この続きは新年だ。そのときは太いのを奥まで挿れてあげる」
　ウインクしながら、股間を膨らませてレジに戻る店長と一緒に立ち上がろうとしましたが、腰が抜けて無理でした。

>>16314438
Should I get a jlpt deck in addition to my mining deck? What would you recommend?

>>16314441
エロゲのかかる時ってすっごく永いから

　私、残業ばかりしていたせいか、疲れが取れなくなって体がだるいんです。彼氏と会うもの面倒になり、電話が毎日かかってきても無視…。
　あまりにしつこいから、一度だけ出たら、「もしかして俺と別れるつもり？」って聞かれ、「はいはい、別れます」と怒鳴って投げやりに電話を切ったの。

　すると数日後の深夜、合い鍵を使っていきなり彼が部屋へ侵入してきました。信じられないことに、たくさんのダイナマイトを体に巻き付けていて…。
　「俺は君のためなら死ねる。あの世でまた会おう！」
　彼がベルトにぶら下がったタイマーのスイッチを押すと、ピーッと電子音が鳴り響きました。
　「あと3分で爆発する。残りの人生、イキまくろうな」
　どんなに彼を引き離そうとしても、男の力にかなうはずもありません。パジャマもパンツも破られ、みるみる素っ裸にされました。

　剥き出しになった胸を痛いほど揉まれまくり、助けを呼ぼうとしても、口にガムテープを貼られ、「ングーッ」と鼻を鳴らすことしかできません。
　こんな局限状態の中で、硬いペニスがねじ込まれてきます。爆発の前にまずは彼が暴発しました。体の中に温かいものがドクドクと流れてきたんです。
　「ああっ、もう死ぬんだ」
　そう思ったら涙が出ました。泣きながらも、最期の快感を冷静に味わっている自分がいて…。
　挿入の後はクンニされてクリトリスを痛いほど吸われます。怖いのに感じてしまい、たくさんエッチ汁が湧き出てきて、さすがに自己嫌悪に陥りました。

　すると彼は「ダイナマイトなわけねえじゃん。精巧に作られたレプリカだよ。ドッキリセックスどうよ？」と言ってニヤニヤ。
　「えっ、ひどいじゃない」
　安堵感から、ジョーッとオシッコを漏らしちゃった。この日から、信じられないけど、何となく彼への愛が深まりました。
　これって恐怖の後、出会った男に恋してしまう「吊り橋効果」っていう心理状態らしいのです。
　ドキドキしたのが吊り橋を渡る恐怖なのか、渡り切った後に出会った男性が好きでそうなったのか、混同するんだって。
　とにかく、一瞬でも死の恐怖を味わった後は、仕事ごときで五月病になっていたのがバカらしくなり、元気を取り戻しました。

私、はゲイ

>>16314448
>今日も一日悲しいパンダしか何もしなかった
時間があるじゃないか

>>16314440
It sounds to me like 「いいえ、○○○○○○○科に発注していたのは空戦魔導士科長ですよ」.

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よろしくね！

>>16314654
>what are we going to do in the office today?!?
>wah!!!

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おはようおにいちゃん

きょうもがんばった？

がくなりがたしだよ

>>16313725
Taketatsu Ayana and Numakura Manami discuss that here:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18698112
starting from 24:30

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18819033
from 24:35

summary:
Ayana keeps talking ABOUT her onii-chan all the time, but calling him that to his face is maximally embarrassing and only happens in anime

>>16314990
ゴミ出しのようなタスク学成り難しオマエはカキコするべからず

What does がむだにかわいくて腹立つ
あると思います！ mean?

>broke over 5000 mature cards in Anki, over half of them are mined
Feels good. Only 15k more until I can read somewhat fluently and drop Anki.

>>16315468
Thanks for the daily progress update. Do you have something I could subscribe to for regular updates?

>>16315534
>Do you have something I could subscribe to for regular updates?

Yes, the Daily Japanese Thread on /jp/

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what's this?

>>16315614
So that's how lesbian sex works?

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>>16314824
They're already working her hard it seems.

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>>16315232
>>16315865
Do you have an experience that you got angry at X because X was too cute for no reason ?
i think i have such an experience.

むだに for no reason
かわいくて腹立つ get angry at X because X is too cute
あると i have such an experience.
思います i think

>>16313622
>gen.lib.rus.ec
afaik this mostly for academic text.

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>あまりハメはずすなよ
I can't for the life of me figure out what that is supposed to mean. Is ハメ referring to their homework obligations? I've never seen it used like that. I thought it was used to refer to a situation which you suddenly find yourself stuck with, not something like homework.

>>16316066
>ハメ
>(n,vs,vulg) fucking; screwing; having sex

>>16316088
Yeah, I don't think that's the case, that's a middle school class. In fact, I just found out 羽目をはずす is actually an expression. It just didn't occur to me to include the particle when looking it up.

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>>16316094
>Yeah, I don't think that's the case, that's a middle school class.
わかいね、やれやれ

>>>16311976 →
>>16313664

these are usually the sites I use
http://bookzz.org/
http://en.bookfi.org
http://www.freebookspot.es/
http://www.ebook3000.com/
http://scienceengineering.library.scilibgen.org
http://documents.mx/
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/
http://libgen.io/
http://elibgen.org/
http://rutracker.org/
https://www.academia.edu/
https://www.scribd.com/

Usually they're on scribd, fortunately there are so many ways of bypassing scribd's defenses.

>>16316117
中学生はそんなハレンチなことしないよ
先生がそう言ったから絶対間違いない

>>16316118
Anon this is /djt/, the question was obviously referring to Japanese books.

About to start Flyable Heart. Is there an advised route order ?

>>16316178
Not like it matters because you're gonna fall asleep within 20 minutes because you were dumb enough to take those beginner charts seriously.

>>16316178
Pick the best girl.

They're all moe blobs. So it's lose-lose.

>>16316178
Do Mayuri's last (before Suzuno's). Also bear in mind that the common route is pretty weak compared to the heroine routes.

>>16316179
>>16316182
I was able to finish はなひら！, moeblobs don't scare me.
But I'll probably play two games. I'll switch from one to the other when/if I get bored.

>>16316187
Thank you.

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>tfw you skipped learning verb conjugation
>despite knowing tae kim and up to n4 vocab i can't read shit because the words are all in their various conjugations
Sort of makes me want to take a break from the language. I've been on-and-off learning for around 3 years now. There's just too many rules to remember when it comes to conjugation. Think I'll stick to default dictionary vocab for now.

>>16316248
You're just a fucking retard, bro. I've barely touched grammar structures because I wanted to just do it all by 勘, and I've had no trouble reading. The issue is you being a lazy cunt who only learned N4 vocab in 3 years when it should have taken you 3 months.

>>16316248
くいてぐいでうつるってぬむぶんですして
Congratulations, you now know 90% of all the conjugation you will ever need

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>>16316209
Ignore those idiots, Flyable Heart is a masterpiece. They just dropped it 5 minutes in because it was too hard for them and have to justify it somehow.

Anyway there's no plot-enforced recommended reading order, the routes are sufficiently disjoint you can read them in whatever order you choose, so what's important is what you'll enjoy the most. Personally I think this means Yui route first because it's the best.

>>16316373
One day you'll read your second VN. One day.

>>16316381
Maybe once you learn Japanese you should go back to it, I'm sure you can spend the 5 minutes to read past the bit you got stuck on last time.

>>16316373
Is there a "repeat sound" hotkey ? Dad's talking kinda fast, and going back in the log fucks up ITHVNR.

>>16316248
If you hover over a word with Rikaisama it will tell you the conjugation. After doing that for a month you'll know them all.

>>16316394
No, going back into the log is the only way. 頑張って

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面白いことを教えてあげる
青
蒼
碧
藍

>>16316373
This guy has aggressively shit taste and him spamming Flyable Heart here is the only reason it became a meme recommendation. Don't expect too much. It's nice for beginners due to the low vocab and occasionally compelling but it's certainly not a masterpiece.

What does rikaisama offer over rikaichan if you don't use the anki import feature?

>>16316453
http://rikaisama.sourceforge.net/#features

Can someone give me a simplified way of understanding わけ. Is it often translated as 'so it means...'?

>>16316248
>despite knowing tae kim
What do you mean? Tae Kim teaches verb conjugation, you poopoo brain.

>>16316449
鯉

>>16316248
I'm in a similar position (learning on and off since 2014) because of that my Japanese is shit. But I never had problems with conjugation. When I started reading I had to double check it often, but now it's second nature. Grammar is least of my worries. The only problem I have now is vocab. Just keep reading and it should click.

>>16316601
It's used when you arrive at a conclusion. Stop using english expressions to define japanese words.

>>16316449
Second one is clearly green, fucking japs learn your colors

>>16316394
Use the second HTML file in the pastebin. There's an button in the top right to delete the last line.

>>16316623
緑
翠

>>16316648
It's pretty nice, thank you.

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I don't understand what he typed. ああいさしたちつてらりる? What's the kanji here?

Did anyone eve bother with audio lessons? Can't find anything bout them in the guide. I really could use something to listen to during work/workout.

>>16316739
>during work
>>>/int/

>>16316739
You could use jdownloader to get the audio from nihongonomori videos.

>>16316734
It's a cell phone keyboard, he typed 愛してる.

>>16316746
This sounds like a horrible idea.

Why not just pirate drama CDs?

>>16316648
You could also just turn Clipboard Inserter off for a second when you open the log.

>>16316734
A I U E O
SA SHI SU SE SO
TA CHI TSU TE TO
RA RI RU RE RO

...back to hiragana lessons with you, I guess.

>>16316741
>>>/r9k/

>>16316822
/jp/ - NEET and Hikikomori discussion

>>16316822
Your reading comprehension is complete trash. Delete this now.

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Is that supposed to be a ン？

>>16316901
What else could it be?

>>16316901
Are you reading Mahou Tsuaki no Yome?

>>16316908
I don't know, I'm bad fonts. I suppose it's just how they speak.

>>16316911
Yes.

>>16316916
ン is aligned at the left
ソ is aligned at the top

this is true for all fonts

>>16316925
What exactly do you mean by left and top?

>>16316925

Oh yea well I just made a font that's the opposite so you're actually wrong.

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>>16316925
I know about the differences between so n and shi tsu, I just thought perhaps it was some other character since the font was a bit odd.

>>16316938

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>>16316939
fixing my sentence

>this is true for all Japanese fonts



>>16316938
see picture

Did you ever get weird vusial associations when trying to learn hiragana/katakana/kanji?

I've been studying for 2 weeks and so far the weirdest one for me was は. Remembered it instantly because it looks like a Lamia laughing (ha-ha-ha) at a guy with an erection,

>>16316963

Who are you quoting?

>>16316972
myself, speaking the correct sentence out aloud

>>16316972
How retarded are you?

>>16316916
Are your scans good? The ones I found were too small for my liking.

>>16316972
Oh how I hate this meme.

>>16316978

But you never said that.

>>16316965
何か

>>16316965
Not really that weird but む always looked like a musical note to me, hence MUsic

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>>16316988
For vol. 1, nope (822x1198), and I remember dropping the manga for the same reason back then (I believe it was the first manga I had tried to read when I was still a beginner). Now I can read it pretty much fluently so it doesn't bother me as much though. Vol. 2, 4, 5 & 6 are all in good quality but 3 is the same as 1 sadly.

I'm transcribing it as I'm reading, I'm planning on doing it for the whole volume, so unless someone shares good scans until then I might share it with DJT.
Before I get asked why : I'm not sure, I thought I'd try doing something like that at least once for experience's sake.

Fuck I just want to practice my listening comprehension but nothing's compelling

>>16317233
I could still understand it but the small text hurt my eyes. And if there was a word I didn't know it just made it more problematic.

Feel free to share it when you're done with it. I'd like to refer to it at least while I only have access to shitty scans.

>>16317284
Listening doesn't need to be compelling, you can just put it on while you're doing something else

>>16317284
What about anime? You like anime, don't you?

>>16317293
Like what though? I can't think of anything that I would like enough to have on but not care enough that it doesn't matter when I'm missing the vast majority of what's being said

>>16317296
I do like anime but for some reason I just can't bring myself around to listening to it raw, it's like my brain rejects it every time I try

>>16317305
Subbed anime is still listening practice if you pay attention to the audio.

>>16317288
Sure, I'm going to bed now but I'll probably be done tomorrow or something.

>>16317305
You don't need to watch them raw. If anything unless you have Japanese subs available watching with English subs is most likely more profitable as long as you don't stare at them.

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>>16317312
>I'll probably be done tomorrow or something.
Cool. Now I'll be inspired to pick it up again. I dropped it around when the fairies were talking because the font annoyed the hell out of me.

>>16317309
This. It can sometimes even be helpful to compare your own interpretation with the subtitles on the fly, so long as you treat it as a "hint" rather than an "authority".

>>16317309
Problem is that he's probably a normie subhuman who watches anime to relax and doesn't have the energy to listen actively after slaving at his job all day.

>>16317363
>normie
Hmmmmmm.
Regardless, it's not like relaxing and focused listening are mutually exclusive.

>>16317305
I just listen to NHKniyoukoso and Lain, which I have seen many times before. I love them so it's enjoyable.

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What does DJT think about this guys method?

>>16317782
tl;dr but judging by the file name "immersion" it's the exact same method everyone else here is using and is being advocated in the guide, the fuck are you asking?

>>16317794
>didn't even read
> "the fuck are you asking"
Anon if you can't be arsed to read 10 sentences why reply in the first place?

>>16317782
>Using J-J dictionaries even if you can't understand them properly yet
Pure bullshit.

>>16317813
because i like bullying dumb crossboarders. just read the guide

>>16317829
He is talking about dictionaries for children though, they usually explain words in a 4-5 word sentence written with the most basic vocabulary you can imagine.

>>16317872
Any such dictionary is going to have little to no accuracy benefit over a J-E dictionary. Dictionaries are also extremely uncompelling content so you really won't learn anything from reading dictionary definitions, especially ungrammatical ones, that you wouldn't learn with a similarly uncompelling grammar book.

Memrise sucks.

>>16317927
That's why no one here recommends it.

>>16317927
>>16317955

It doesn't.

>>16317888
The thought behind it is to completely get rid of English and go full Japanese mode, but I have to admit what you say makes sense.

I guess just reading novels is still more effective but I have yet to find something that interests me enough to suffer through it with my shitty reading skills.

>>16317976
Why are you learning Japanese if you don't like anything in it?

>>16317958
It's just anki except it takes 15-20% more time to do reviews because of all the stupid animations and special effects. Why the fuck would any serious learner use memrise?

>>16317958
Which "class" would you recommend?　I'm doing jlptn5 right now.

>>16317980
>Why are you learning Japanese if you don't like anything in it?
I usually love pretty much everything Japanese but hanahira and the like bore me to death.
I'm looking for something easy and interesting to read but I couldn't find anything yet.

What I really really want to read is unfortunately not hookable.

>>16318009
>hanahira
People read that shit?

>>16318009
What you write here is extremely contradictory. You should just stop being a baby and stop thinking of a language in "easy" and "hard". Almost nothing out there is difficult, it's all written in normal Japanese for adults. So you can either stick with dumbed down children's books and Hanahira, or you can actually consume compelling content and learn the language.

>>16318021
I read it, it's not as bad as he says. Just slow (like most SOLs) and gay

Just watched 千と千尋の神隠し raw for the first time

Feels good man

Here's the words I mined

えんがちょ - ハイカラ - やしない - 蓬
硫黄 - おんも - 言いなり - 新米 - ねんね
大尽 - お成り - 袴 - 穀潰し - お座敷 - 祠

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j-cat is a joke

>>16318136
Why are you posting the tests of 3 different people?

>>16318139
those are all one person

>>16318136
You're just bad

>>16318136
Why are you here if you can't even get 200 on J-CAT after over a year of study? Seriously, close your browser and go read something

>>16318152
yeah
>>16318154
I didn't study at all between the first two screenshots

>>16318136
Your studying is a joke

>>16318164
I can read the only manga I care about to be fair, I just like posting bad memes

post stats and jcats

Should I do core2k if I haven't studied in a year?

>>16318159
>I didn't study at all between the first two screenshots
Stop attention whoring if you're not even learning japanese. Actually, just go to /int/ because that's probably where you came from.

>>16318109
Really surprised that you had so few unknown words but apparently never encountered やしない or 座敷 before.

>>16318178
>Stop attention whoring if you're not even learning japanese.
but I'm learning japanese, like right now
and it's not attention whoring, it's just posting
>Actually, just go to /int/ because that's probably where you came from.
please get out of /jp/ /a/non

>>16318159
>I didn't study at all between the first two screenshots
Yeah and you're not studying right now either.

>>16318185
I am

>>16318170
>I can read the only manga I care about
To-Love Ru?

>>16318191
no, welcome to the nhk

>>16318179
I might have done it's just it's been long enough since I last saw them that I'd completely forgotten them

>>16318183
>but I'm learning japanese, like right now
This sad excuse of shitposting isn't "learning japanese".
>please get out of /jp/ /a/non
No. Go back to /int/, that's exactly where this kind of posting belongs.

>>16318136
lol I got 201 on the JCAT after like 6 months of studying. You belong on /r/learnjapanese with the rest of the no-hopers.

How long does it take to finish the J-CAT?

>>16318175
Also which of the core2k decks in the CoR are better?

>>16318215
>This sad excuse of shitposting isn't "learning japanese".
my manga is in my lap
>No. Go back to /int/, that's exactly where this kind of posting belongs.
I didn't know /int/ was the home of autistic neet arguments
>>16318216
the overwhelming majority of /r/learnjapanese knows even less japanese than me anon

>>16318217
About an hour

>>16318217
It took me around 30 minutes, but I'm only 3 months in.

>>16318216
Most people here flunk basic N5 test questions. I don't think you're one to talk.

>>16318218
The one in the Anki start-up guide.

>>16318216
I got 250 after doing core2k

>>16318237
I aced it after watching namasensei

>>16318238
Did namasensei teach you to lie too?

>>16318191
To-Love Ru supposedly doesn't have furigana, so that's not really a good attempt at burning him.

>>16318238
Why does he call himself that, does he not use condoms or something?

Reminder that being able to read with a mouseover dictionary is not the same as being able to read generally speaking.

>>16318250
Pretty sure it does.

>>16318250
It was just the first shit manga people with shit taste like to read that came to mind

>>16318261
Then the CoR has it marked wrong.

>>16318230
Go back to plebbit and post more some romaji.

>>16318237
Obviously you did more than just core2k.

>>16318254
Really makes you think

>>16318164
I'm pretty sure having your grammar skill, the one part of language that you cannot lose easily, deteriorate by 50% over the course of six months after being stable, is not something that happens outside of brain damage.

>>16318275
He is just shit at Japanese and got lucky on grammar questions the first two times

>>16318284
That's as likely as you getting hit by a truck within the coming week.

>>16318289
Surely, it wouldn't be difficult to get 2-3 questions right by guess when it's all multiple choice questions.

>>16318311
That's not how J-Cat works.
http://www.j-cat.org/html/en/pages/interpret.html

>J-CAT is unlike other tests that assess based on unadjusted scores. J-CAT takes the difficulty of the item (question) into consideration, and assesses the examinee's ability based on the probability theory.
In other words, if you select the "bogus" answer (not the "deceptively wrong" answer) on a question that it thought was your level, it'll know that you definitely don't belong to that level.

>haven't touched my core6k deck in a year
>only had done 2k words
>1650 reps piled up
Should I bother continuing from here or start over?

>>16318383
Why would you start over?

>>16318383
Try reading some simple manga, children's books and NHK News Easy, if it's too hard start over. And don't use the quote function if you're not quoting anyone.

>>16318383
Drop it completely and make a mining deck.

>>16318396
If I'm already reading but never did core, is it okay to just do a mining deck?

>>16318477
It's always okay to just do a mining deck.

>>16318477
Just like, learn words man

>>16318477
Honestly, if you already know the basic japanese words, there's no need to do core. I did core until around 500 words then deleted it and started mining.

http://nipponnostalgie.hatenablog.com/entry/20101206/1291638692

というか私、この店の存在を知って居ても立ってもいられなくなりました。名前、外観、そして吉原という立地といい、好き者の私には全てにおいてドンピシャな店なのです。

..what? the second sentence i get (its appealing) but the first?

>>16318606
When he/she learned of the shop's existence, he/she couldn't contain herself.

>>16318623
>居ても立ってもいられなくなりました
goddamnit why dident i just google the phrase its like the first result

>>16318687
That's a mouthful.

>>16318487
I wouldn't say I know them anymore, I learned to the point of being able to read ika musume level of difficulty without oa idctionary about a year ago, and then didin't study for a year. So they're in my brain somewhere but I don't really know them very well anymore.

>ankidrones

Can't believe so many people are still falling for the anki meme. You know it started as a joke, right? Even Steve says flashcards are a waste of time.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0rZCb0kgBab

>>16318836
Oh ok, just uninstalled Anki and deleted my Ankiweb backup. Thanks for letting me know.

>>16318849
おちんちんをあたしのせまいしょうじょまんこにいれてくだいさ

Does anyone know how to actually write "THE PLEASURE OF BEING CUMMED INSIDE" in Japanese?

>>16319098

中出しの娯楽

>>16319098
中出しの苦しみ

>>16319098
そんないやらしいことを言えば駄目だよお兄ちゃん

>>16319098
ざ　ぷれしゃー　おぶ　べぃんぐ　かんだ　いんさいど

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Please help with this impossible to OCR kanjis from pic related.

Hope this guy actually releases something this year.


2016年12月27日（火）13:00　

をやっておけば良かった！orz　と、事後に…。
ペン入れがギリギリ過ぎて基本トーンを上げてもらうのも入稿直前だったため
最終仕上げ周り本当に時間が無かったんですが
まともな判断力が残っていれば、いくらでも対応はできましたね…（´△｀；）

生み出した腐海もほどほどに片付いたので、これからサンプル準備します。

I installed windows 10 after using Linux for years and holy shit are the Japanese fonts ugly! It's almost unreadable.

Hey just started with hiragana. Using Heisig Method - Remembering the Kana. I'm following the guidelines or "lessons" in the order that they're given and I've got three questions about it:

1) The author says that the learning order isn't the dictionary learning order and that the order that he proposes - the one where I'm going back and forth like a choose-your-own-adventure book - it supposed to help me remember better or learn faster... or something. Problem is that his cutesy texts to attach random as fuck meanings to help remember are 100% useless to me since my brain doesn't work that way. Am I going to get fucked down the line if I don't memorize it his way or can I just learn it my way and not worry about it down the road?

2) Is the actual learning order important? Since the author says the way he wrote the book is out of order, will I just have to relearn the order eventually? AKA am I better off doing it "alphabetically" right off the bat so I don't waste time?

3) Does this book contain errors? I'm on lesson 4 right now and he has a little test to see if I can remember some of the syllables:

よいま
リなね
たに

Problem is, as far as I can tell, he has not covered ねyet and I'm wondering if I skipped a step or if the author is just dumb? I tend to skip over stuff when I read/learn, so I want to make sure I'm not fucking up so I don't have problems down the line.

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>>16319219
You could have learnt half of the hiragana with this picture while you were typing out that post

Just go through them all in a couple days, literally easiest part of learning Japanese and takes less than a week to get a good handle on

>>16319219
I can't offer any advice on Remembering the Kana's contents, but honestly, I think you're wasting your time. If you just bruteforce it through realkana (or whatever people use nowadays) and writing it down a bunch of times, you can get kana out of the way in a day or two. No need for mnemonics or anything like that because you will see kana literally all the fucking time. It's pretty much impossible to forget them.

>>16319212
What font settings do you guys use in Chrome to fix it? Or do you just leave it as default?

>>16319231
>>16319238
Ok so just learn the keystrokes and brute force? Been at it for 1½ hours and that book's method seemed useless, or at least sketchy. Thanks.

Also, didn't these threads use to be on /a/?

>>16319212
use meiryo font.

>>16319253
Thank you.

>>16319251
Yeah. What I did was: "learn" the characters from a resource that groups them by gojuuon (look it up) rows (I used a Wikibooks page but there are tons of sites that offer the exact same thing), 5 or 10 at a time, and then test myself with realkana (looks like nowadays people use kanateacher instead).
>Also, didn't these threads use to be on /a/?
Yes, see the notice at the bottom of this page: http://djtguide.neocities.org/ Please don't discuss it here, though.

Do you have trouble reading the kanji? It's pretty simple kanji. Hopefully you can read the hiragana
全体
基本
移植
乗せ

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おはよう

おにいちゃん

おにいちゃんは

どうしておにいちゃん

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アスカ、我々のは料理の本を勉強するは難しい。
"Asuka is having a hard time studying our cookbook."
Right? I don't have any friends. I'm a lonely r9k robot and so I have to rely on Google Translate for grammatical practice. Thought I'd take this one to you guys because Goog's saying it's grammatically wrong. Don't see how though. It's directly stated that the book belongs to the group, and that Asuka is finding studying the book to be difficult.

アスカ(Maybe ha should be here instead of separated by just a comma?)、我々のは(Topic/Poss.)料理の本(Cookbook, noun)を勉強する(Action, studying the book present tense.)は難しい(Maybe a ha shouldn't go here?)。

inb4 im insulted for having such bad grammar

>>16319612
>あすかは教材のレシピ本ですっごく勉強している

ourは訳すの難しいので意訳したよ

Transcribe please

https://youtu.be/-F1urWYgKaA?t=698
11:38-11:42
こんなこと。。？？？

>>16319612
>It's directly stated that the book belongs to the group
That's wrong. 我々のは means 我々の[omitted] is the topic. I would assume the omitted part is アスカ, as in "Our Asuka/Asuka, a member of our group".
>I don't have any friends. I'm a lonely r9k robot and so I have to rely on Google Translate for grammatical practice.
This is irrelevant to your question and the thread. Please keep that kind of information about you and your 4chan browsing habits to yourself, unless it actually matters (it never does.)

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>>16319644
がんばれおにいちゃん

>こーんなことなら、昨夜（ゆうべ）宿題やるんじゃなかったよ。

>reading is the best way to learn but setting text hooking and mining is the pain the ass

djt is holding me back desu

>>16319981
It isn't though. You posting here and procrastinating is holding you back.

>>16319981
Use Chiitrans Lite, it works with pretty much everything and you can turn on furigana for maximum lazy mode. My only issue with it is how janky the hover info is, but I've found that in every fucking text hooker, because none of these cunts know how to program. If I move my mouse off the word, the box should disappear, retards. It doesn't need to stay there and block my view of the rest of the sentence.

For mining, I just copy out new words into a quick reply window, and then go through them all while mashing R at the end of my session.

>>16319981
Don't use a text hooker then. That's just a cheap and nasty trick.

Read them as a native would read them. If you truly get stuck on a word/kanji then look it up in jisho or similar.
Making it harder to cheat means you'll spend more time trying to figure out the meaning naturally, and then have a greater commitment to remembering stuff which will ultimately lead to much greater results.

Or rage quitting if you're a big baby.

>>16319998

Baited for this exact response. Thanks!

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Girlfriend_Is_the_President
>girlfriend
>not childhood friend

really makes u think

>>16320051
>逃げるは恥だが役に立つ
>we married as a job!
Really makes you think.

>>16320020
Awful advice. All that time spent doing radical searches or whatever could have been spent reading. You only need a bit of self-restraint when using a texthooker ie. try to read and understand a sentence before hovering over any words. And in any case, you'll be mining unknown words so you have to memorise them eventually.

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おにいちゃんおなかすいた

ふりかけごはんたべたい

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>>16316066
>>あまりハメはずすなよ
Don’t get so carried away
(Don’t enjoy yourself too much)
羽目を外す
>>16316088
what you said is 嵌めを外す
loling
>>16316123
先生が羽目を外して教壇からおしっこをすれば
「センセイション」
>>16316449
青は藍より出でて藍より青し
Do you know that aphorism?

>if only america didnt exist japan would have conquer the world and we would all be japanese right now

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>>16318109
Can you understand meanings of those words all?
>>16318606
The shop is the most suitable for the sexaholic like me in the all points, which are the name, the appearance, and its location on the place called Yoshiwara.

名前、外観、そして吉原という立地といい;the name, the appearance, and its location on the place called Yoshiwara.

>>16320196
You mean if the Soviet Union didn't exist.

Is there a sequel for Core2k/6k deck?
I don't want to mine.

>>16320244
There's core10k, but really, you have to mine eventually.

Quiz
ジャップは答えるな。

Consider 思惑. How come the first kanji is read with 訓読み and the second with 音読み?

>>16313806
Could you give me source on that? Seems somewhat beginner friendly considering I can read it.

>>16320311
TasoSin

And you can't really judge a VN based on one screenshot, especially when it's such an easy one. The whole VN isn't like that.

>>16320311
Jesus fuck you're a retard. You can't learn Japanese.

>>16320318
Thanks anon.
Do you happen to have any easier ones in mind then to ease me in? I've not really tried reading through a full VN in Japanese yet.

>>16320321
Yes I can, just watch me.

>>16320325
Try TasoSin then, if it seems interesting to you. If it's too hard, you can just stop,

Here are things you need to run it:
http://holyseal.net/cgi-bin/mlistview.cgi?prdcode=9242

>>16320325
Just read what interests you dumbass. I can't believe people still haven't learned that compelling content is the most essential conponent of language learning.

>>16320305
Why does it matter? Etymology is meaningless, it just is.

>>16320353
The point of quizes is to see if you know the answer. In this case it doesn't matter if you don't. I just think it's an interesting piece of trivia.

>額にＬＯＶＥと入れるとなったらどんな屈強な精神を持った奴でも人生が完全に終わってるか、完全に始まってるかでなければ、オタオタする。
>人生が完全に終わってるか、完全に始まってるかでなければ、オタオタする。
This part confuses me. If you do X your life will be completely over, if it hasn't completely started you'd be shocked? Obviously wrong and I'm probably missing something obvious

What language should I learn after Japanese?

>French
>Italian
>Spanish
>Portoguese
>Chinese
>Korean

>>16320376
Note the …か… か there giving you two possible options for でなければ and then what happens if they're でなければ,

So you have [X]か[Y]かでなければ[Z]. "If it isn't X or Y, then Z."

So the speaker would be shocked if it's neither X, not Y.

>>16320386
Hm, I think I get it a bit more now but I still don't understand what its trying to say. Doing that ending your life makes sense, but why does the other "option" of starting your life exist

>>16320243
One or the other stands correct, really. I highly doubt Japan would've sat there watching the URSS invade Germany and Italy considering they were part of the Axis at the time. They would've breached the truce without the US being a thing (as anon stated), and in the end the URSS would've lost.

Also I'm all for recognizing how the Soviets did the most in the war, but that wouldn't be fair to recognize all the resource and aids the US sent to the URSS during WWII.

>>16320378
More Japanese and Classical Japanese.

>>16320402
Having no context, the best I can assume is that it's about the types of people who hang up frames with LOVE in them. You've just gotten married and moved in together, either your life is over (because now you're married and can't do the things you used to like as much), or it's just beginning (because now you're married and can do lots of fun things together). There's a lot of this "life starts/ends when you get married" shit in Japan.

コミケに行く人挙手ー

>>16320425
Don't cross waiting lines.

>>16320421
額 is ひたい anon... people who write stuff on their forehead.

>>16320431
And what would happen if I did?

>>16320435
Since you're baka gaijin probably nothing, but it's generally considered impolite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5bSNJ0DekY

Any know if there will be an official Gaki Batsu stream somewhere? Or just a stream at all for that matter.

fuck 勢

>>16320671
俺はそのファック勢の一人なんだぜ

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おにいちゃん

ちゃんとてをあらってから

ごはんたべよ

>>16320683
そういえば
久々にちんこ洗ってないから今頃カリにめっちゃチンカスたまってんだろうな

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>>16320689

>>16320711
うん。お前の口に。

I thought the DJT was moved to /int/.

Is it possible to write my own doujinshi or visual novels after about 6 or so years of studying Japanese?

>>16320792
If you have to ask then you probably aren't there yet

>>16320792
You can probably write them in Old Japanese if you study for 6 years.

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フロートしっぱいしたー

おかしづくりを

さいごでしくると

へこむ

>>16320839
あんたのヌードの写真貸さないならあっち行け
クソがき

>>16320957
ロリコンを見つけた！

>>16320792
With 6 years of consistent study, you can learn pretty much everything assuming your IQ is not lower than average.

>>16321002
だからなに？

>>16321085
>consistent study
I laughed.

>>16321085
>assuming your IQ is not lower than average.
Approximately half of people have an IQ lower than average.

Do ebook files for ミス・ファーブル exist?

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なるほどね

Is ITH and translator aggregator hard to set up?

Will chiitrans lite work on windows 10? Since windows 10 doesn't come with IE...

>>16321457
>Approximately half of people have an IQ lower than average.
Approximately 90% of those are niggers

>>16321565
Actually blacks have higher than average scores when the test is conducted in their dialect.

>>16321556

You just download ITH and press attach. Translation aggregator is retarded, just use the firefox hooking method with rikai.

>>16321556
Yeah this >>16321581
http://pastebin.com/raw/DgZ84qwk

>>16321581
Alright thanks.

>>16321554
Recently I came across 目尻 which is literally the ass of your eyes.

>>16321581
>>16321586
Seems detrimental in learning Japanese. Maybe you'll be able to read something easy with help like this, but you'll end up dependant on it.

>>16321666
How would you do it? Without text hooking at all?

>>16321670
He's shitposting, ignore him. As long as you don't enable furi and actually try to recall the things before hovering over them you'll be fine.

What do you all think is the best anki deck to go alongside remembering the kanji volume 1? There seems to be quite a few out there.

>>16321815
That's a trick question because RTK is bad and you shouldn't do lone kanji study.

>>16321816
Well, I'm studying Tae Kim's grammar, too.

>>16321670
Step by step.

>>16321815
The one in the CoR is good. Just make sure whatever you use matches the RTK edition number you're using (presumably 6th).

>>16321816
>you shouldn't do lone kanji study.
Why not?

>>16321849
Because it's stupid, just like you.

>>16321849
Inefficient. RTK just assigns English words to the symbols and even after you complete it you have 0 Japanese knowledge and can't read anything. Whereas with the vocab method you pick up words immediately, immerse yourself in content much earlier and can tell apart kanji by context (e.g. you learn 食堂 and 食事, ergo 食 is food related). There is really no reason to ever do RTK unless you find it extremely hard to differentiate between kanji.

>>16321849
Ignore him. Some people prefer to learn straight from vocab, others prefer to do some individual kanji study. It's up to you, just don't let it take up so much of your time that it distracts from your reading.

>>16321849
Because you're not learning japanese. And even if you wanted to do lone kanji study, RTK is among the worst things available for it.

Remembering the Kanji really does seem sub par to me. I mean, only having the English definitions and not the actual Japanese word? What were they thinking? They could have simply written one additional line to show you what it says in actual Japanese.

>>16321889
They're not even definitions. They're keywords. There is no definition for kanji.

Do you use your computer in all Japanese?

I just switched to Japanese mode in Windows and all my applications in Japanese too. Even steam. I wonder if my games will be in Japanese too.

>>16321849
Kanji vs vocab is by far the most controversial topic on DJT, so I would advise taking everything you read about that matter with a grain (or an entire cellar) of salt. I can tell you two things: 1. Unless you care about handwriting, which most people here don't, it doesn't matter which method you choose; 2. Kanji study WILL give you results if you see it through to the end.

>>16321905
>1. Unless you care about handwriting, which most people here don't, it doesn't matter which method you choose
No, it doesn't "doesn't matter". Isolated kanji study is by necessity isolated, and therefore you are delaying actually studying japanese. There is no reason to study kanji in isolation of vocabulary when you're not learning to write. None. Zero. RTK is worse than worthless, it's literally a waste of time with only subjective benefits.

>>16321905
It will give you the exact same results except way slower*

>>16321911
>>16321912
so should I just be grinding the core2k deck and mining once my grammar is up to par, in both of your opinions?

>>16321923
Reading is simply the most important thing to do. If you want to memorize things, memorize words. It doesn't matter the source as long as they're present in what you're reading, include readings, and have reasonable definitions.

>>16321911
>>16321912
You're overlooking the fact that knowing the Jouyou kanji makes acquiring new vocab infinitely easier. Not to mention that, rather than opting for one over the other, one could always do kanji study and Core in tandem - that's what I would recommend, actually, but I'm a handwriting autist, so yeah.

>>16321927
>You're overlooking the fact that knowing the Jouyou kanji makes acquiring new vocab infinitely easier.
1) Define "knowing"
2) [citation needed]
>rather than opting for one over the other, one could always do kanji study and Core in tandem
That's called "spending all of your time cramming and none of it reading".

Hi, ともだち。
Do particles come before or after words?　What difference does it make, before or after?

Example:
と言う
or
言うと　？

>>16321935
Neither, and the difference depends on what you're looking at.

>>16321927
You're overlooking the fact that knowing vocab makes acquiring new vocab infinitely easier.

>>16321937
と　is the wrong particle from 言う？

>>16321943
No. Your question is basically nonsensical. Go back to your grammar book.

>ラムネ

Why the fuck is that stuff still a thing?
I was wondering for half an hour what the fuck was up with this bottle.

Offtopic, I know.

>>16321980
>Offtopic, I know.
Yes. Now fuck off.

>>16321980
https://vndb.org/v16511

The worst and best part about learning Japanese is realizing a bunch of translations you've read are literally just rewrites based on google translate or something.

>>16322026
I know, right?

So is it better spending 40 minutes watching one episode of raw anime where you understand every single part or spending 40 minutes watching two episodes of raw anime where you miss a bunch of shit?

>>16322150
Whatever's more compelling.

>>16322150
It's better to spend 40 minutes reading instead.

>>16322150
Watching 2 episodes of subbed anime while paying attention to the audio and referring to the subtitles when you don't understand something.

>>16322163
I'm not deaf unfortunately so I have to focus on listening practice at least somewhat, as painful as it is

>>16322185
But isn't that kind of cheating to just not even try when there's something you don't understand? Is there even a point if you only understand the parts you understand and skip over the parts you don't?

It's not like when you're reading if there's a part you don't get you just instantly open up an English translation and check it, you spend as long as you need figuring it out, so why would I just instantly rely on subs when doing listening practice? Feels like I'm missing out

"itai dare desu ka," "itai nan desu ka," what does itai mean in this context?

I hear this all the time in anime but I can't figure out what function it serves.

>>16322242
Sorry I can't read romaji. Please try again in Japanese.

>>16322242
Why do you copy questions from Reddit?

>>16322242

It means "what hurts?" and "who hurts?" obviously.

>>16322242
The pleasure of being cummed inside.

>>16322242
The pain of being cummed inside.

>>16322199
Read VNs with voice acting