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2:0. Get in here, nerds.
http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447

http://pastebin.com/mu7z1WQk (embed)
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why did the president take her bottom off first?
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>>14651944

Where are the discards?

Also, get destroyed, Nodochii!
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>>14652102
They ate them
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>>14652102
They have enough holes to hide the tiles.
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>>14652102
Nodoka's hand slipped so she dealt into Taco's 1 pin tanki for Renhou.
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>>14651944
how well are you doing in 7447?
I will post top 100 in 3 post
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>>14652397
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>>14652404
and this is it
http://www30.atpages.jp/mojan/dbranking_all.php?l=L7447&m=0
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>>14652397
>>14652404
>>14652407
This is only for 2016 right?
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>>14652419
this is just last month
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My old account is in the 90s with two games. New one isn't ranked yet, though. Too busy grinding in L0.
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>>14652419
Even ignoring that, it's a meaningless list. 60% of the top 30 haven't even played 10 games.
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>>14652437
That's right. If you want to know how well you're doing just look at your first place percentage when you're at least 100 games in.
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>>14652397
I'm the two jp's.
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>>14652419
Only for this month so far. This is the one for last month.
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>>14652404
>>14652470
>UNIVERSE
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>>14652483
No bully. New Years have been tough, but things are finally looking up again.
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>>14652514
>things are finally looking up again
Are you sure?
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>>14652535
No, so get in 7447 and let me test it.
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3:0
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I really want this tournament to happen.
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>>14652655
What tournament?
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>win two cheap hands (both under 3000 points)
>keep building up bigger hands to try to catch up to kamicha and tomiya
>either forced to keep playing defense
>kamicha is finally oya E4
>proceeds to win three times in a row with two oya haneman back to back
>game ends with me back at 25000, second place

I feel like I didn't do shit, but I'll take it.
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>>14652662
A lot of players on /jp/ and maybe /a/
A tournament can be made
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>>14652715
It's better than not doing shit and coming in third because someone kept dealing into everyone but you.
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>>14652792
/jp/ would probably lose against /a/. Who's your best player anyway? UNIVERSE?
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>>14652816
>UNIVERSE?
Yeah, I wish. Try one of the 5 or 6 dans that play here. They've most likely played for much longer than I have and have put in a lot more effort in L0, so I'd say they're better.

Also, why do you think /a/ would win? I don't think many good players go there.
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>>14652852
>why do you think /a/ would win?
Those 5 or 6 dans you mentioned are from /a/.
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>>14652855
How do you even distinguish where they come from anyway? The seems too massive to tell.
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>>14652860
I've been observing them since the active days of tanoshii threads on /a/ so I'm certain they're mostly from /a/. Except xkime maybe.
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>>14652792
how can you divide the 2?
I mean, I'm mostly on /a/ every time, but I come here for the mahjong thread only, for which side shold I play?
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>>14652868
You don't have to, it would be an all vx all thing.
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>>14652868
Go with what your heart tells you.
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>>14652869
That's not fun.
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Would you pursuit riichi here?
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>>14652869
well a mahjong tourney between all the board may be cool, with a Saki style 5 player Sempo-Taisho with 2 east sud each
Still who should play other than /a/ and /jp/? we need at least 4 team
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>>14652888
No. Haku dora 1 is enough since you're not last and you will be last dealer.
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>>14652894
Just make 2 teams for each board.
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>>14652894
I remember seeing a tread on /v/, and maybe mahjong, like chess is sport, so /sp/?
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>>14652888
Yes
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>>14652907
People from those boards probably have no idea how to play. It will be a battle of busting the retards if they play. Not fun at all.
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>>14652792
>>14652894
>>14652655

if we actually get it done, i demand a drawfag to do all the players Lesbians counterpart
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>>14652914
Don't worry, we won't get shit done
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>>14652903
>Haku dora 1 is enough
So you would push but stay dama? If you're going to discard dangerous tiles against a riichi, why not riichi as well?

>you will be last dealer
This isn't something you should ever really count on.
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>>14652914
Let's not. Too much circlejerking around the players ended badly last time /a/ had a tournament.
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>>14652914
Saki : autistic weebos edition

FKMT style would be fun too
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>>14652919
Because if I pick up an extremely dangerous tile I can still fold.

And you know what you shouldn't really count on? Risky riichi with a cheap hand like that.
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>>14652923
any link?
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>>14652931
What would be extremely dangerous? The 2s already looks dangerous to me.

>And you know what you shouldn't really count on? Risky riichi with a cheap hand like that.
3 han on a ryanmen wait isn't terrible and you don't even know what you'll draw in your dealer turn. Tenpai on a good wait is a hell of a lot better to count on than some vague hope for clutch renchan.
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Why not just do an individual match? What's the need to side with boards? I'll side with /a/ though.
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>>14652933
I don't, it was a long time ago and I don't really feel like digging through the archives.
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>>14652952
You have 2 of the 3s so it's not THE MOST dangerous. If you riichi, pick up a 2p or any red dora and deal in to someon what would you do? Complain here because you got "unlucky"? And I'm not saying you should count on getting renchan. Being last dealer means right at that moment you still have two more rounds, at least, to do something. 4th place has no more turn as dealer and that should limit the damage he can do.

I think your problem is you really want to get 1st place. Listen to my advice, avoiding 4th place is the essence of tenhou and you'd do well to stop thinking less about winning every match you play.
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>>14652971
Forgot to mention, me myself would probably fold and hope shimocha do something stupid to escape 4th place. My answer was based on the assumption that you'd want to push and it's just a matter of declaring riichi or not.
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>>14653000
I should have been more clear then, I wasn't dead-set on pushing there. Defending would have been a perfectly acceptable answer.
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What time is best for you guys? I'm setting it for today 6AM JST/4 PM EST but I can always change it.
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>>14653019
I don't think I can join that given that I live near Japan and waking up at 5 am for this isn't really worth it.
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>>14653019
I will be out for dinner at that time
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016012222gm-0089-0000-9c9ee12c&tw=1

That east round was a cluster-fuck. Kamicha gets a lucky dealer baiman on the first hand, shimocha can't stop calling tiles, and I decide that first place is hopeless and go for toi-toi 3 hands in a row. I felt so bad for the toimen having to put up with us. L0 is just as despair inducing as I remember though.
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>>14653025
>>14653029
I set it for 4 hours later if that helps. 10 AM JST/8 PM EST. If we don't get enough people I can set it for another day.
http://tenhou.net/0/?C20695652

Standard rules except no five reds, the final score is the tally from the last 5 matches.
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>>14653064
Just give it up. There's no reason to hold a tournament.
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>>14653086
Why do you hate fun?
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>>14653064
I'll be at work but I can make do I think.
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>>14653110
Mahjong isn't fun. And too few people play in 7447 to even have a tournament.
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>>14653064
>>14653019
If you really want to do this you should probably give morr time than just a day to gather people to play.
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>>14653114
>>14653248
Okay, final time is tomorrow, Saturday 10 AM JST/8 PM EST. And I figured if we wait too long people would lose interest or forget
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That daisangen comeback yesterday was really fun.

I love mahjong.

That day was going really shitty yesterday.

Thanks /jp/.
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>>14653357
>I love mahjong
Give it time
>>14653353
Someone should make a thread on /a/ at some point I suppose or post it in a Saki/FKMT thread at least
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>1:0
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>3:0
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>>14653353
Prepare your anuses!
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>>14652894
/tg/ and maybe /v/
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>>14651944
and some people don't believe flow is real
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>>14653633
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>>14652467
Why do you have two accounts?
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This drill sergeant is training you for mahjong. How FUCKED are you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXhKpUfITV0
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>>14653742
>JESUS H CHRIST!
>Private pyle, why is your hand open?
>Private Pyle, if there's one thing in this world I hate, it is an open hand, you know that, don't you?
>If it wasn't for lesbians like you there wouldn't be any open tanyao only in this world, would there?!
>Well now, let's see if there's any dora.
>Holy Jesus, what is that? What the fuck is that?! WHAT IS THAT, PRIVATE PYLE?
>SIR, FURITEN, SIR
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>>14653353
>Saturday 10 AM JST/8 PM EST

Damn, probably won't be able to make it until much later.
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>>14653353
I don't know how to read time
Does that mean "8 pm burger time tomorrow"?
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So tomorrow at 5pm pacific? Cool. Where do I sign up?
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>>14653932
20:00 in East Burgerland. There are different time zones.
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>>14653946
http://tenhou.net/0/?C20695652

Just get in there tomorrow.
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>>14653932
>i don't know how to read time
I... What? Just google the timezone (est) and your timezone to see how many hours difference there is
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>>14653353
I forgot something. You need to register an ID. It's probably not a concern for most people here, but you won't be able to join otherwise.
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>>14653975
>mfw, can't play as NoName
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>>14654001
Then almost everyone would be NoName. You have to admit it would negate the point of having a tournament.
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>>14653954
I RECOGNIZE THIS KEBAB
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>in second place in south 4, first has a pretty good lead
>get a shit hand, decide to just try to hold my position
>one by one all the other 3 players riichi
>manage to hold second and avoid dealing in even though I had no guaranteed safe tiles more than once
Scary stuff guys.
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Those /a/ tournaments were fun.

>>14653353
>Saturday 10 AM JST
Sunday, you mean.
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>>14655100
Yeah, that was my mistake. It's in exactly 24 hours.
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>>14655100
No, today is friday so tomorrow is saturday
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>>14655120
It will be Sunday in riceland, Saturday in the developed areas of the world.
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>>14655120
It's Saturday in Japan.
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>Join a game
>Get a call, had to go outside for a bit
>This guy has been patiently waiting as a dealer
fucking hell
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>>14655482
dont you get a yakuman after 8 hands? Or hasTohai taught me wrong?
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>>14655504
That's a non-standard yakuman. Tenhou doesn't have it.
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>>14655504
Not in Tenhou.
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>>14655504
Tenhou doesn't use a lot of fun optional yakuman like Renhou, Paarenchan, or Daisharin.
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>>14655504
Don't believe everything from fiction.
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>>14655504
I wish all those non standard yakuman were options in online play

Seven Stars is my dream hand
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I think I'm feeling sick.
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>>14656643
?
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Robbing a Kong - Mahjong when a pung is extended to kong
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>>14656773
> 4 kongs
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3:0
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Why is this a rule? I didn't think my hand was too bad and sabotaged myself
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>>14656881
I need to stop shitting up this thread when something spooks me. I suck too much to contribute to discussion too.
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>>14656881
Superstition. It's considered an ill omen if all players discard the same wind, so the hand is aborted to prevent misfortune from befalling the players.
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>>14656908
Practice that for a year and you won't suck anymore.
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>>14656881
> not discarding a haku
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>>14657066
Oh, I didn’t notice that it was a dora. Then I would discard North, too, if I didn’t know about that rule.
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Can't believe they both went for the same hand and same wait.

This hand resulted in my ass dropping to second since on S3 toimen busted shimocha.
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>>14656881
Damn, son, toimen is kicking some ass in that game.
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>>14651944
washizu is fucking high right now
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I want to set up a bot that streams 7447 games with bets, and call it saltytsumos
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>>14657288
Make it happen.
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>>14657288
Bets by spectators, or bets by the people playing? Either way, it's a silly idea.
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>>14657557
Shut up. I'm down to bet a few to make things fun
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Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
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>>14657968
What's wrong?
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>>14657972
I fucking hate this game but I can't stop playing. I hate it with a passion I've never felt before. In the last 8 games with almost perfect tile efficiency I've only won like 4 hands while everyone else pulls hanemans from their asses.

Fuck mahjong. Fuck 2016. Fuck.
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>>14657980
>with almost perfect tile efficiency
If only I got a dime for every time I heard that.
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1:0
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>>14657980
>perfect tile efficiency
If that was true, you wouldn't be on a losing streak, loser.
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>>14657980
http://osamuko.com/playing-a-good-game-and-losing/

>Perfect tile efficiency
Sure thing mate.
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>>14657980
Eight games of not winning sucks, but you can often go fifty or a hundred games with shitty results. It isn't unusual for even houou players to demote two or three times.

The important thing is to truly identify any mistakes and to ride out the randomness. As the article >>14658048 says, a lot of people who say they played a particular game perfectly and lost actually messed up somewhere.
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>>14657980
Happy New Year, motherfucker!
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Any good japanese blogs on riichi, tile efficiency, etc.? Untranslated of course
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>>14658214
So, you can read Japanese, huh?
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Just a final reminder that the /a/ and /jp/ tournament starts in approximately 5 and half hours at 10 JST/8 PM EST if anyone is interested. Rules are standard 4P with kuitan allowed, no red fives (to minimize the influence of luck). Final scores are calculated as a total of the 5 matches. NoNames/Guest IDs are not permitted in tournaments so you'll have to register an account if you haven't already. Hope to see you there.
http://tenhou.net/0/?C20695652
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Should I play on Tenhou through a Japanese VPN so that I won't get the baka-gaijin random seed which gives you shitty flow?
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>>14658340
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>>14658340
>implying Japs get better seeding

Well, OK. Maybe they do...
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How many different hand compositions are there for Ryuuiisou? I can't imagine it's that many considering you can only use 6 of the tiles
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Do people really think that Tenhou is rigged against players with nonJapanese IPs?
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What the fuck do I do with penchans? They're terrible and I want them out of my hand but it's poor efficiency since it lowers shanten.
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>>14658526
Wait. Hope to draw a 4/6 or turn one of the tiles into a pair.
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>>14658526
Wait for a middle tile then build around that while you discard your penchan wait if it's still possible for you to do that like in the early stages of the game. Penchan is not as bad as I thought it was at first. It does have the same number of waits as a shanpon wait assuming no tiles are in the discard pond.
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>Dropped below R1600
Fuck this shit I got to tenpai exactly once and I ended up dealing in during my riichi.
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>>14658526
I don't remember where I read it, maybe in Daina Chiba's book, but I read that a penchan has only a very slighter chance to be completed than an isolated 5. So don't hesitate too much over discarding them.
They have bad waits and forbid tanyao & pinfu. Also, if you don't have any tile nearby, always throw the inside tile first, the outside one is usually safer.
>>14658544
I don't consider shanpon as an efficient wait, but its plus is that it can easily evolve into ryanmen pinfu. Outside of unefficiency's unpredictability, does it have other benefits?
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>>14658442
234 can be used as a sequence. 6s, 8s and hatsu have to be in a pair of a three of a kind. So you could have an iipeikou shape with 223344, 666 888 and a pair of hatsu, for example.
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>>14658593
For suji traps. Beyond that I don't think there's any. It is a pretty hard wait to win, compared to the other types of waits except for tanki, although tanki has the surprise factor included with it.
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>>14658608
Technically speaking you could have 222-333-444-234 and a pair of 6,8 or hatsu however unlikely it may be. Maybe I'll go put together every possible combination myself for fun later
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>>14658593
>penchan has only a very slighter chance to be completed than an isolated 5
I tried to do the math on that myself once but gave up because I'm a big dum dum.
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Fucking kusoge.
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>>14658487
I hope not.
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>>14658671
I don't think it was math based, rather a statistical observation.
I quickly did some approximate math and get a 9/8 ratio (1.125) in favor of the isolated 5. It comes from the fact that you have to draw 2 tiles, but you have 3 combinations with 3,4,6,7 that work.
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>>14658775
Well, forget about that, it was a nonsense. The important fact is that you have 5 (not 3...) combinations of the tiles around 5 that make a full shuntsu.
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>>14657968
Japanese mahjong*
International rules (i.e. the chinese competition rules) are pretty logical.
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>>14658319
>adobe flash
>have to make account
I can't.
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>>14658442
Anyone here well versed in combinatorics?
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>>14658926
7
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>>14658926
I counted 21.
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TEST
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>>14659021
Did it work?
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>>14658319
Do I just need to sit in the lobby to enter?
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>>14659032
Yes, I'm in gensokyo now
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>hadaka tanki with chanta
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Please remember to poop before the tournament and wipe well. Wouldn't want to have any accidents or a distracting ichy bum now would we?
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>20 minutes left
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>>14659442
Whenever I start playing mahjong I get a sudden urge to go to the bathroom to piss. And no, before you say it, I don't do the whole piss bottle thing.

It's only made worse when the dealer starts rolling the renchan and I just want it to end to go to the bathroom.
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>>14659442
That's disgusting. Just because I'm a little girl doesn't mean I shit myself.
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>9人
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>>14659551
Place your bets
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>>14659551
http://tenhou.net/0/?C20695652
Starting in 3 minutes.
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WHAT DO I DO
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>>14659566
偽赤木 is going to win this.
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Jesus christ.
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8 DORA HE HATES IT
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>>14659568
Oh shit, am I too late?
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>>14651944
damn social life, I'm late
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>>14659664
It's just 5 matches and we only started 15 minutes ago. Get in.
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Everyone's getting fucking disconnected.
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>>14659664
Get in, nigga.
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Can you feel it, /jp/?
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>finally get a yakuman
>that fucking bird flies into someone else's hand before you can open yours
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>>14659761
That was both stupid and beautiful.
Based Fukumoto
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Time to get my ass kicked
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So how does this work? You play 5 times and then you're done?
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Here I am with Gogo, Doragan, and Waki. Again.
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When do scores get tallied? I want to join but I'm busy with other shit. Can I hop in later tonight and still participate?
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>>14659823
Scores are tallied on the go. After you play enough matches you'll see your rank in the lobby. That said, five hanchan will take a while, so I dunno if many people will keep playing to improve their rank once they finish their first five.
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>>14659834
Wait so you can keep on playing for as long as you want? I think there should be a hardcap.
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>>14659845
Playing more could also decrease your rank.
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>>14659845
Yeah, it's the best five consecutive games, so you can keep playing. The only limit is that the tournament is only open for seven hours. That's a long-ass time, though.
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Dammit, sorry I keep disconnecting.
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>>14659883
I'm sorry for you, we keep pushing all the dangerous tiles when you disconnect.
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I don't want to play with you anymore
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>>14659970
who
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Did anyone finish yet?
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>all these yakuhai hands
Fuck you guys.
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>>14660015
>5 games
>in one hour and a half
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>>14660030
I'm on my fifth right now
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>>14660024
s-sorry
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>>14660030
I'm on my last game, though that's probably because I was the smoe that dealt into the 8 dora sanbaiman and ended the first hanchan at the east first renchan
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>>14659820
>Waki
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>>14660030
Just finished my fourth. Busted by an oya haneman oh boy

>>14660063
I call you niggas whatever I want
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Am I too late for this tournament thing?
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Third time I make it to south 4 on second place and something stupid happens and I end up third.
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>>14660079
No, it's still ongoing. You can join whenever. It finishes in about 5 hours.
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>>14660081
git gud
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>>14660090
I'm gonna git gud on your ass.
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>>14660030
>mfw, only finished just 1 game
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>>14660095
Too late, the guys I'm playing with beat you to it.
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Any tournament yakuman yet?
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>>14660109
Biggest hand I've seen so far was my Saibaiman, no one has said anything in either thread about a Yakuman
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>>14660109
Sorry I need to step my lesbianity
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>-38
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God dammit Traks.

>3rd 3rd 3rd 1st 3rd
>Second place

At least I never went 4th.
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>>14660123
>Toitoi
Completely unsurprising.
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>>14660169
I didn't expect to be here after dealing into
>>14660123
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>>14653353
How are we suppose to know who is a /a/ player and who is a /jp/ player?

We also need equal amount of players on both sides otherwise one team will have a bigger advantage to win.
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>>14660215
I don't think it's /a/ vs. /jp/ so much as it is /a/ and /jp/.
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>>14660169
Can we look up other peoples ranks or do we have to wait until the end of the tournament
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>>14660215
Everyone has to name the board they identify themselves with.
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>>14651944
お疲れ
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I was about to rank everything manually but Tenhou's log for today seems to be corrupt. I'll try again in a few minutes.
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Not even a mangan

5 games, and not even a mangan. In fact I don't think I got more than 2 han.

I hate this stupid game
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>>14660284
so what we should do after completing 5 games?
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The current ranking so far. Keep in mind it's 20 minutes behind because that's how often Tenhou refreshes, I'll update it a bit.

>>14660297
It's up to you if you want to play more games to try to increase your rank. Keep in mind it only counts your last five games.
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>>14660297
Watch the other players and laugh at them
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>>14660308
ehi, I'm bk201 and i have 5 games 3 first 1 second and 1 third
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>>14660308
So is it like, if you have played 5 games but then you play another one for a total of 6, the first game is dropped?
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>>14660322
proves of that
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>>14660327
Yeah, it's the last five consecutive games.
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>>14660322

>>14660308
>Keep in mind it's 20 minutes behind because that's how often Tenhou refreshes, I'll update it a bit.
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>>14660310
>>14660329
>>14660308
sorry, I'm a retard and i can't read. kinda super sleepy, 4.31 am here
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>>14660322
>The current ranking so far
>so far
>the current ranking
>so far
>s
>o
>f
>a
>r
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>>14660333
Alright, thanks.

Contrary to what my name suggests, most of my games have me placing fourth ;_;
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Wait, why can't I even enter the lobby?
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>>14660360
Do you have a registered name?
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>>14660360
Do you have an ID?
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>>14660365
What do you mean I've to register with you before I'm allowed to go into that lobby? Or simply a registered tenhou ID?
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>>14660378
You need to have a registered Tenhou ID.
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What time are we closing the games off?
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>>14660391
4 hours 20 minutes if I got this right.
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>>14660391
We have a 5 hour window since the start time.
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>>14660382
I do but it's stuck on 98% when I click the flash link.
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>>14660391
17:00 JST
1:00 EST
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>>14660391
2 hours and 18 minutes left
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>3rd
>4th
>4th
>1st
>1st
Guess I need to clear 3 games out
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>>14660403
sorry, this is >>14660395
right
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>>14660405
>1st
>last
>last
>last
>last

It can only get worse
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This ended up actually being quite fun. We should do it again sometime soon.
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>triple teaming
That's not fair guys.
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Didn't play 5 games but I'm going to bed now. It's 5 o'clock in the morning here in eurofagland.
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>>14660452
Heh, I was just about to say the same thing. 3 games will have to be enough for me. Would be cool if it could be hosted earlier next time.
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>>14660452
This, I'm getting sleepy as fuck.
I've only got 2 games to go and it's fun so I'll continue
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How the fuck do I stop the annoying music?
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>>14660378
No? I'm spectating as NoName scum right now.
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Should I extend the time for the eurofags?
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>>14660547
Next time we have one we should probably make it last longer but for now I think we should just let it be
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>>14660547
extend IT

12 MORE HOURS
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>>14660501
Top right
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>>14660547
At this point it really wouldn't make sense, just do it next time.
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>wow what a fucking good hand with this I-
>KYUKYUSHIT LOL
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>>14660643
And that is why it may be a good idea to call 9h9h
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Updated ranking.
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>>14660698
So are you only counting the last 5 for people with more than 5 in these rankings or no?
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>>14660712
Last 5, just remember there is a time limit.
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>>14660718
I wasn't sure because you included people who didn't make it to 5. I assume we'll just cut them from the final ranking?
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>>14660712
It automatically does it.
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How big is the Japanese Mahjong community? Only came into this thread since I saw Saki anime, and am kind of interested.
I've only played Taiwanese Mahjong which is also 17 tile based, but I suck at keeping score/what hand gives you how many points.
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>>14660742
>How big is the Japanese Mahjong community?
Depend what you mean, in real life it's pretty much nonexistent outside of Japan. Online it's pretty decent. These threads are relatively active and the online site we all use to play is pretty much always populated in the general lobby and people swing through the custom lobby we use often.

I'm not really familiar with other types of mahjong so I can't say how the scoring differs
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>>14660742
http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html

and don't come back until you stop getting ''no multipliier''
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Ah, shit. I just woke up. Is it realistically too late to get in 5 hanchans?
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>>14660820
You still have time, go for it.
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>>14660781
What does the card faced away/card thrown away while face down mean? Are those the little birds that give you extra points?
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>>14660828
Are people still playing?
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>>14660832
There are 16 people right now.
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>>14660829
read under the game for rules
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So there will be no playoffs round after the group round is over? Seems unfair, since some people only played against scrubs while others might have to face the strong players more often.
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>>14660854
Ohh. So it seems like in the taiwanese version, instead of having a white empty tile, they had a little rectangular card on the tile. Seems like it's the same tile just different images on the tile itse.f
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>>14660870
I was thinking about having another tournament with the people in the top 8 and then a final with the top 4. Although there's nothing in place to stop other people from joining, so it's probably impossible.
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Newbie here, but can I not pon a wind on the first circle of the round?
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>>14660908
nvm I'm retarded
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>>14660888
well, we can orginize that on 7447 when there is no other games. Also nobody plays in anything other than dora5 to begin with, so it should be doable
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>>14660888
Eh really? I thought there would be a way to reserve places or something

We could probably still make it work out though
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>>14660888
Not impossible. Other people just have to cooperate and not be a dick by joining the queue if they're aren't eligible.

Anyway, I thought the /a/ tournament managed to be just fine in 2013 or 2014?
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Finally made it

...8 peeps playing each other
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>>14660781
I got second, when playing computers is that bad? Seemed like I got Tan-yao much more often than the other multipliers though.
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GGs. I'm done for the night.
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Ryanpeikou.

>>14660942
Those /a/ tournaments were bracketed, they didn't use championship lobbies like this one.
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>>14660997
To be fair, brackets don't really work until you get seeding.
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>>14661006
Seeding is pretty easy. Use rank and break ties with rating.
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>>14661006
>>14661038
Yeah, we did seed it by rate.

And thanks UNIVERSE, I would've overtaken >>14660995 if not for that tsumo.
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>6th
Could push harder, but if the goal is top 8 I think I'm fine.
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Guess I got in too late because I slept in.
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Next time I'd like for the organizer to make this more organized. The matchups should not have the element of randomness like this one. I mean, I feel kinda bad for the 2d player in one of the matches before. He has to face against 3 high ranking opponents at the same time while those who played early probably had to only face 1 such opponent in any given match.
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>>14661139
Well, there were also some late comers.
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>>14661139
I doubt there's enough players to separate them based on ranking.
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>>14661139
Not trying to shit on anyone or anything but this tournament was pretty much a spur of the moment. There wasn't much thought put into it
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>>14661154
There were a lot of stragglers. We started with 11 at the correct time. We ended up with almost 3 times that amount.

I agree the publicity for this was very low, and should have been announced better.
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So we have under 1 hour left right?
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>>14661163
For a tournament that was set up just two days ago in a spur of the moment I think it's doing fine. It'll serve as an example for more tournaments in the future. Also, I think we should've set a better time to accommodate everyone that wanted to play. I may sound biased because I'm a latecomer as well but it's a pity some can't finish the 5 games because of the bad timing.
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>>14661082
It's not my problem.

>>14661139
If you're talking about me, then it's fine. If I can't beat them, it's either my fault or fate's fault.
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>>14661226
>it's either my fault or fate's fault
I'm not talking about you but of course it's your fault for being bad but it's simply not fair since some people don't even have to play against the high ranking players.
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>>14661222
>It'll serve as an example for more tournaments in the future.
Fair warning though. Don't do these too much. People may burn out from them.
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What are the rankings as of now? There should be like 30 minutes left, right?
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>>14661246
I don't think it would happen that much though, don't worry.
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>>14661251
see
>>>/a/136534474
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>>14661251
I think the guy who was doing them went to bed. He made a post in the /a/ thread saying he'd post them sometime in the morning
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>>14661260
So when will it be morning?
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>>14661263
I assume he meant EST so it could it still be a couple hours
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>>14661271
I assume EST as well. I wouldn't expect anything for at least another 5 hours and possibly 8.
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>got in late
>only managed 3 games

I didn't do too bad aside from one double Ron I foolishly steep into.

We should do this again!
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So the playoffs, if any, will be next week?
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>>14661324
My 5th game ended with a just minute left. I felt really lucky about that. The outcome, however, is another matter.
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Good work everyone!
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Alright, if you guys are actually interested in doing a more organized tournament then let's do this.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1_b3Ia1PpUDW5PvMLFJ2N4zTrcEX5oAPcGQfJjvn-cGM/viewform

I'll draw up a bracket with seeds determined by Tenhou rate, then swap people around so their schedules match. It helps a lot if you've got a flexible schedule.
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>>14661390
Would it count if I use a new account since I lost my old one?
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>>14661436
Sure. Just put in the rating for your old account if you remember it.
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>>14661390
Also don't forget to enter in the times when you're available to play.

http://whenisgood.net/4janchamp
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So is it morning yet?
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Ok guys, sorry for the wait. This is the final ranking. Thanks for joining, I honestly wasn't expecting more than 4 people. It was fun.
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>>14661900
I have totally missed the event
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>>14661900
I want a re-match. Do it again next month or something.
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>>14661900
Is that really all of the players? I remember playing against someone not in that list.
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>>14661935
>>14661960
>>14661390 is starting up another one, and it's likely to be more organized anyway.

>>14662003
There were 30 people in total, but the final rankings only list the top 20.
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>>14662016
>Email required
No thank you.
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>>14662033
Just create a throwaway account if you're that paranoid, faggot.
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>>14661900
no final 8?

still thanks for the work, it was very fun
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>>14662016
>30 people in total
>only 12 ended up with positive score
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>>14662076
We can do it next week, although I'm not sure if they're up for it. I'd like to know what time is best for everyone, I was thinking about making it 5 or 6 hours earlier because a lot of the Europoors had to stay up past their bedtime.
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>>14660927
>>14660942
Also, I just realized that there was an option in the tournament lobbies to permit only permit certain people to play so it's definitely a possibility.
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>>14662092
Well you should probably ask the top 8 specifically what time works for them. I'm 5th place and I can play whenever as long as I know when not to sleep
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>>14662092
I can't make it if it's 5 hours earlier. If the yuros want I can clear some time right around this hour(+/- 2 hours).
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>>14662109
Yeah, if you want to you can make a whole tournament bracket and schedule the matches at different times. I don't know how it works but the person in charge of the lobby can manually send players into matches.
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>>14662123
>>14662201
I'll write up a bracket if we can't get everyone together.

>>14661900
http://whenisgood.net/x23xijs
Would appreciate it if the top 8 could put down what times they're available. I was planning on next Saturday but I set more days just in case some people aren't available then.
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>>14662092
same as >>14662123
I too can play anytime if I know before a specific time schedule
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>>14662003
I slept in so I wasn't able to play. Doubt that I'll be able to break top 8 but it's still unfortunate.
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>>14662279
Also make sure the time zone matches up with your own. Just a reminder since some people were having trouble with time zones before.
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2:0
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Ah. So that's what you meant by "Well fuck"
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>past the bump limit already
wew

So did /a/ win or /jp/?
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>>14662605
since none of the player declared for who they were playing, no board won
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>>14661390
>2016 Championship

Let's save that title for the end of the year
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This is sort of a weird question but.

How do Japanese people choose/read their usernames?
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>>14662849
Do you really think that the names typed in Japanese belong to the real Japanese people?
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>>14662853
Of course not in 7447, but in 0000 probably.
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>>14662853
Quick. Someone turn this into a Tenhou user ID
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>>14662279
Is it supposed to adjust time to GMT and yet still say what time zone you are in at the top? That makes it look like you want to count the offset twice.
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>>14663022
Actually, only ‘チンチン’ does.
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>>14663031
If you put your timezone at the top it will adjust automatically. Trust me on this.
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>>14663040
When I followed the link it showed exactly what I was afraid of. It assumed my input time was GMT and then adjusted it based on my timezone and was in fact counting the adjustment twice. I guess I'll do it over again.

To anyone else that has this problem: if you are running noscript disable it for whenisgood before you use the dropdown.
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>>14663096
Sorry, I lied. I completely forgot about noscript.
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>>14663035
Actually, the Japanese generally use 'チ' for the sound 'ti' because the language originally didn't have a 'ti' sound, and it's easier for some native speakers to use familiar sounds for creating loan words than to learn the additional sounds that exist for them. ’ティ’ exists for the sound now, but 'チ' is still more commonly used. So 'Tin Tin' would more often than not become ‘チンチン’, especially during the time that anime would've been created.
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>>14662003
>>14662016
>There were 30 people in total, but the final rankings only list the top 20.
Hmm, I stopped after 3 games and had a positive score but I'm not in that list. So maybe these are only the player who played all five games?
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>>14662016
>There were 30 people in total, but the final rankings only list the top 20.
Some probably did not finish 5 games.
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>>14663239
>>14663483
I looked back and checked all the people who had less than 5 games, and you're right. It was exactly 10. Now we know for sure next time, you need 5 games or more to rank.
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>>14663839
If you have the full stats for everyone please post it.
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Mahjong is such a fucking turbo kusoge holy shit.
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>>14663989
This holy shit like fucking turbo kusoge fucking hell
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I thought lewdgrill was good.
I was wrong.
I will never be able to play with him again.
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>>14663944
Obviously it's not the actual ranking since everyone played a different amount of games.

>>14664249
He did good all the times I played him. Everyone's allowed to have a bad day or two.
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>>14664249
It's just one event.
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>>14664266
>losing or even being close to someone named DickCock
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>>14664303
I'm one of those losers beneath Dickcock.

My only consolation is that I am redirecting some of my losses away from L0. Maybe.
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I wish I had a place to discuss advanced mahjong strategies.

Most people in this thread say they either just play to see big hands or just to dick around, so it feels like it'd be futile to attempt any discussion about pro-level techniques, since everyone either takes osamuko as a bible or doesn't even know what defense is.
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Anyone happen to know why kuitan is so rare in high level play?
It's the fastest possible hand around, yet it happens fewer times than a yakuman.

Not even dealers ahead of everyone by 40000 points go for it, and I don't get it.
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>>14664540
>advanced mahjong strategies
>advanced mahjong strategies in lucktiles
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>>14664540
I'm a mahjong pro™. What do you want to talk about?
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>>14664540
Hey, I said I play on 7447 to dick around, and that's only sometimes.
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>>14664540
Sorry for sucking
>>14664550
Because they know getting 1000 points 3 times doesn't mean shit compared to a baiman once and it's better to end the game quicker then to give your opponent more opportunity
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>>14664597
But wouldn't kuitan be the perfect tool to speed hands up every time?

Even when people are in 1st by a large margin, they never go for kuitan when they're not dealers.

Wouldn't ending every hand quickly be your first priority if you're first?
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>>14664606
I think it has to do with defense. You get a lot less tiles to discard against potential big hands and you will have obvious tanyao making odds of actually completing your hand slim. Just speculating though
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>>14664249
>play with him again
>him
No way! Are telling me that lewdgrll is a guy? I always imagined her/him as a qt.
Anyway I like playing with her/him.
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>>14664626
(S)he is that one /a/ tripfag Ruri and has always implied she was female
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>>14664626
People who pretend to be girls are in reality often the furthest thing from them.
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>>14664540
>advanced mahjong strategies
No one in 4chan is advanced. The best you'd out of here is intermediate level.
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>>14664694
What is considered advanced? 5 dan and higher?
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>>14659820
>Waki
Who?
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My heart can't handle this.
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>>14664855
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>>14664862
IRL we never get more than 3 players so I play it sometimes on tenhou to oil the gears.
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>7447 right now

What happened? Where did everyone go?
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>>14664906
People are probably taking a break after yesterday
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>>14664906
Do you want me to play with you drunk?
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>>14664915
This. After how low I ranked yesterday I needed to drown the sorrows away.
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>>14664810
He probably meant Waza
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>>14665003
I thought he meant Saki-san
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>>14664708
Probably 6dan with >2000R
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>>14665148
Nah, Saki-san wasn't in those games. We basically got the same 4 players for the first 3 matches of the tournament.
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You know what? I owe this board an apology. I always treated it like a containment board so /a/ wouldn't get touhou shitpost, but it's here that I found kindred mahjong players on the rise.

I spend more time in these threads than anywhere else on 4chan. Thanks for making the Internet fun again
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>>14665148
Maybe he misread the ざ in わざ for a き. Thus Waki.
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>>14665711
Thanks for sharing.
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>>14665711
>15 dora
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>>14665711
>DORA 15

GET OUT WASHIZU
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>>14665719
>>14665722
>>14665736
In case anyone is wondering, not sure why it was deleted
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016012505gm-0009-0000-9e2bddae&tw=1&ts=1
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>>14665748
Haven't been keeping up with this stuff, but is warosu kill?

I haven't been able to connect to it for a while.
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>>14665755
Don't know, It's down and I believe the owner is supposedly "vacation" so who knows
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>>14665748
holy fucking shit
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>>14665748
RIP C-SAN
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>>14665748
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>>14665748
>60 fu
>22 han
I don't know fu. How many points would that be?
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>>14665870
In aotenjou?

2^24 = 16,777,216

60 fu * 16,77,216 = 1,006,632,960 basic points.

1,006,632,960 * 4 = 4,026,531,840 for non-dealer.
1,006,632,960 * 6 = 6,039,797,760 for dealer.
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>>14665748
What the fuck.
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>>14665922
What is the point of aotenjou anyway? Can anyone even play something that ridiculous?
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>>14665940
It is to rob and enslave poorfags who think they can outplay a skilled yakuza.
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Attack or defend? Post your reasonings.
Will post mine later since I want unbiased answers.
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>>14666701
The dealer has riichi'd, your hand is cheap and you have 3-4 mostly safe tiles. No point in attacking.
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>>14666701
Attack. You have no lead to defend, your position is no worse than the guy in riichi and you have few safe tiles.
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>>14666701
I see no reason in attacking unless your seat tile is the dora. What's the point of risking getting hit by a riichi tanpin dora hand or something like that if you're only aiming for a dirtcheap 1han yakuhai? The tradeoff is too poor to aim for that hand.
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>>14666711
>>14666712
>>14666718
True, but also consider that 7p is suji. I would have likely discarded 7p at some point anyway because of that, which is why I found this difficult.

Pro attacking:
- 8 live tiles to win
- 7p is suji
- Since I have two open melds I might run out safe tiles if I defend and will discard 7p anyway

Pro defending:
- Riichi comes from the dealer
- Hand value is small
- I have 3 tiles safer than 7p
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>>14666701
Until a more dangerous tile comes, attack
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>>14666701
defend, your hand is not worth anything
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>>14666731
Winning hands is not only about gaining points, though, but also about preventing your opponents from getting points.
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>>14666723
You can play the odds on the 7p, it will probably pass, but I wouldn't push my luck with that hand. You're probably going to end up folding anyway, and if toimen riichis, your two 1 sou become risky tiles. 7 pin is a useful tile in that situation because it's suji for everyone.

1s > 1s > 1m > 7p while tsumogiring any safe tiles against the dealer that aren't safe against multiple players.

But like I said, you can play the 7p and try to squash the riichi, and maybe that will work out this time.
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>>14666741
1s is not 100% safe against the dealer, though, 1m is. I would prioritize playing as safe as possible against a dealer riichi before considering possible future riichis and discard 1m first, if I wanted to defend.
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>>14666794
The only wait that's alive is 1s hell wait, and considering the dealer broke up his xia pair, it seems extremely unlikely he would now be in a 1s tanki wait. It's better to use them while south isn't tenpai/riichi. 1m is one-chance because you can see three of the 2man, thus it has a higher chance of passing against south than the 1s.

Normally I'd agree with you or say it doesn't matter too much, but when you're working with a restricted hand and trying to defend you have to do so with the future in mind. Especially when south is making such aggressive discards against the dealer's riichi.
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>>14666701
>Yakuhai only in East 1 as a non-dealer against a dealer riichi

Well, gee, I wonder. You should fold and reconsider why you opened your hand for something so cheap when you probably had potential to do much better.
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>>14666701
He discarded 9p first which means very little chance of penchan, and he wouldn't riichi on 5p for a 68p wait. He's not waiting on 47p or 36p, so why was the 5p discarded on riichi? Shanpon possibility from 577p is the most dangerous possibility.

As other anons have noted, toimen is also attacking with that incredibly dangerous 4p discard, which means he has an expensive hand assuming he is rational. I believe folding is the better play, but I think a 7p discard could be justified. Preventing someone from winning, especially the dealer, is almost as valuable as winning yourself.
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Check out my symmetrical placement ratio.
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>>14667916
That is not symmetry.
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Chankan is so satisfying.
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>>14668429
>Calling a kan when someone went riichi
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2:0
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>>14668429
Yea, it sure is. It's like: "Oh, you're calling kan? Well, fuck you. I'm ronning your punk ass."
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>>14651944
3.0
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>>14664540
Not an "advanced" tip, but something to keep in mind.

Any time you get ron'd -- even for a cheap shit 1000 pt hand -- you fucked up.
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>>14669054
I wouldn't be so categorical, in S4 with a lead of 20k points but without agari yame, dealing into a cheap hand is not a bad way to end the game.
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>>14669082
Ah yes. Sashikomi. I totally forgot about that, which is perfectly fine.
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>>14669082
How about when you're trapped with all the other 3 players going at it and you opted to deal in to the cheapest hand?
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>>14669202
This guy is right, I'd rather get hit by a 1000 pt ron than a Haneman tsumo.
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>>14668898
this again
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Can't stop laughing
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>first place all game
>south 3
>somebody gets a 18000 tsumo
>have to enjoy that 2nd place
I hate this so much
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>>14669534
Be glad it only took you to second
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