If ever there was a time when Junko was cute, it was long ago, before her life as a wife and mother horribly collapsed. Now she's just hot. Hot in an extremely classy and refined way, but still just hot.
>>14651755 ZUN draws every character like that. Yukari, Yuyuko, Eirin, Byakuren, Yuuka, Kanako, Ran, Mamizou, Utsuho, Komachi and all the other hags/boobhus are drawn not much older than everyone else but that doesn't stop fanartists.
LoLK would have no oppai hags if not for Junko. Seiran is on the smaller side. Sagume, Doremy, and Hecatia's breast sizes vary a lot between fanartists, Ringo is pretty much universally a boobhu but isn't a hag. Memepiece isn't a hag but for some insane reason if drawn with big-ass tits as much as she is flat. Junko is a widow and former mother, old as fuck, and exudes a mature and regal aura. She is literally the perfect 2hu to turn into an oppai hag.
>>14653745 God fucking damn. There is something about how big-ass tits push her tabard out, but the sash keeps them tight around her tits so her chest is HUGE. No wonder her, Kasen, and Ran are always drawn with big-ass tits.
Junko is amazing. Everything about her is great: her black dress, her beautiful gold-and-red tabard, her red eyes, her long flowing orange hair, her sash...for a guy who is mediocre at best at drawing, ZUN's character design is amazing.
I love that she's friends with Hecatia as well. Those two are so hilariously different yet make such good foils for each other.
>>14653722 But Junko in particular looks even more like a little girl than the usual, and you already have HecaT for all your titty needs. There aren't even any official lolihags in Touhou as it is, Junko was the perfect opportunity but you tittyfags had to ruin everything even though all the requirements were in place!
>>14654813 She's a cute frog, for some reason she feels more childish than haggish in the lolihag scale even though she does count as one. Junko on the other hand is more of an old hag that looks like a loli. It's just that based on her portrait alone she has zero oppai hag characteristics (despite being an angry mother) so I can't understand why she became such a monster of tits in the eyes of fandom.
>>14656365 But that's why Komachi, Sanae and Raiko are so titty. Junko just became one because people could only see that she's a milf so they instantly made her huge instead of choosing the fun way to do things.
>>14658542 It was the most logical direction to take with her, though. Her being a mother is kind of an integral part of her character, and if you're going to make her a MILF then tits and child-bearing hips are practically mandatory. They are simple, obvious symbols for maturity and fertility, and convey that despite the MILF's age that she is hardly past her prime.
Besides, 2hu fan depictions seem to tend to lean heavily towards pushing contrasts between certain characters. As you pointed out, they made Komachi a tittymonster, but to contrast with that they made Eiki much shorter and far less-endowed. Sanae's chest was similarly emphasized to further contrast her with Reimu.
Looking at it from that perspective, then when comparing two "mother" characters, if you already have one that is very distinctly a loli, then it should follow that the other should be distinctly non-loli. Suwako's whole deal is that she generally doesn't look or act her actual age. She essentially embodies a denial of the typical traits of a MILF. To contrast with that, the only way to go with the other character would be to have them emphasize the typical traits of a MILF. Where Suwako is distanced from her age and status of a mother, Junko is made to embrace them.
Besides, if you really need a loliMILF in 2hu, we've had the perfect candidate for that spot for AGES already.
>>14661368 The main thing that annoys me is how most of this hag art is much more sexy or mature than cute, and as OP said Junko's ingame art is really fucking cute. They could have at least tried to keep her cuteness intact, you know? Nonetheless, I wonder how she's going to look in any of the current manga, and if that's going to make any difference to the fans. I really want to see Harukawa's Junko. Also, I'm glad that people didn't decide to somehow hagify the tiny 2hu of love. Miko also seems to have avoided this fate, thank you Taoism.
>>14661573 >Also, I'm glad that people didn't decide to somehow hagify the tiny 2hu of love. Miko also seems to have avoided this fate, thank you Taoism.
Why would they? Shinmyoumaru is supposed to be a child, naive and, gullible enough to be strung along by just about anything anyone else tells her, so making her a hag in any way would simply would not work. A hag would be the sort to lure others into their van with promises of free candy, while the little princess would be more likely to be the one getting lured.
Miko, on the other hand, has that whole "used to be a dude" thing going for her on top of being paired off against Byakuren, whose whole deal is being a hag that's desperately trying to stave off her hagness. Again, it's a contrast thing.
I suspect that if Chang'e ever gets an official 2hu appearance, she will almost certainly be more loli in appearance than Junko in fanworks. Not only would it contrast with Junko's MILF image, but it would add an additional sting to her husband's betrayal if the woman he ditched her for was much younger-looking.
>>14662418 >I suspect that if Chang'e ever gets an official 2hu appearance, she will almost certainly be more loli in appearance than Junko in fanworks. Not only would it contrast with Junko's MILF image, but it would add an additional sting to her husband's betrayal if the woman he ditched her for was much younger-looking.
I wonder about that. Though currently Chang'e is in the form of a frog according to Strange Creators of Outer World, some fans have speculated that Chang'e's normal appearance is similar to Junko, if not identical. Reasons are that: 1. According to some scripts of her legend, "Junko" was Chang'e's childhood name before she changed it. http://blog.livedoor.jp/coleblog/archives/52042083.html Also from her legend, Chang'e herself holds a grudge to Hou Yi(Junko's husband), because he cheated on her too by having affair with some river goddesses.
2. Gensai, the person Junko is based on as Hou Yi's previous wife, is described in her Japan Wiki entry as "a fair lady with beautiful black hair". https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%8E%84%E5%A6%BB Interestingly, she has "Junko" as her alias with the same kanji as Touhou Junko.
So people have speculated that maybe the "Junko" we sees now isn't Junko's original appearance, and instead might've been Chang'e's. Because current Junko is a Divine Spirit of pure fury, and her whole stitch of having no identity, some people suspect her as being able to take the form of the people who fuels her hatred for Hou Yi, one of them possibly being Chang'e.
So no, it's not just because of that troll post of Chang'e's art from a while ago.
>>14662418 Junko herself is pretty likely to look like a loli in the manga as well, I doubt that anyone who saw her in-game art didn't think she was a little kid at first as she certainly gives off that aura of looking like a cute little girl until she starts talking (and goes full smug), and then you find out about her past and notice that she's just a cute old hag. I'm guessing that that manga appearance is what's going to solve this discussion. Not that it will stop either side given how much freedom there is in 2hu fanworks, but that's exactly one of the reasons to like them anyway.
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