Daily Reminder Subedition
>BABYMETAL WORLD TOUR 2016:
UK (Apr 2)
US (May 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, 13, 14)
Open Class (Jan 16, 17)
Spring Hina-asobi 2016 (Mar 6)
The Road to Graduation (Feb 13, Mar 22)
Grads: https://youtu.be/J-VZHeSVS5s & https://youtu.be/_ru68LlDQss & https://youtu.be/QCBu2ZBAIvI
Sakura Gakuin (Mon 19:00 JST)
Night of Spica (look for ゴロ寝系トーク番組『スピカの夜』 in the calendar)
>Previously on /bmsg/:
>hehe, nice ayaka's anon, don't post them all at once!
this was the best res i could find, somebody might like it though.
i'll post this just in case it's somebody's fetish.
yeah, google brought me there.
btw this pic and the almost soles from last thread are from a movie called 'leaving on the 15th spring'.
So with the recent amount of Kamis being posted, do you think there are any fujoshis posting or at least lurking itt?
i hope not. i hope all our resident female are lesbians.
this one was supposed to come before that one
Can we go back to girlposting now?
ひぃちゃんに浮気された(T_T) もうはな知らん。 堀内さんいるからいいけど。(´-3-`)ﾌﾝ
Deep in my heart, I'm an Airin man.
Maybe this one is even better
I see where the inspiration for Squall came from. Nomura is such an insufferable faggot.
Is there an HD version of this?
Even then Yui dancing superiority was already present.
- Moa not twisting her heel.
- Hinata over doing the twisting in danger of blowing out knee. Twisting knee instead of heel. Is she trying to get a look at her butt in the mirror?
- Ayami hopping instead of twisting. Doesn't nod head.
- Su's dance is a mess, everything is wrong and she even loses balance. Looks clumsy in a cute way.
- Yui gracefully twist her little heel with just the right amount of hip thrust.
It's all in the small detail. This is why she's TopDancer.
Su comment just made me smile.
I think she's the only SakuGaku to have had dance training prior to joining Sakura Gakuin.
Ever since her early days she's been praised for her skill at dancing (and she loves it) so she must've taken it very seriously and worked extra hard to improve her specialty.
I think it's because traditional idol dancing is very robotic, the coreographies are for people who don't know how to dance.
Su was infected with it when she was on ASH, but Yui never adopted that philosophy since her roots are on jazz and it paired well with Mikiko style which borrows alot from Jeremy culture.
not sure of intention but here it is.
I think it will be great. RoR is a genuinly good song and from the bootlegs I've heard the new songs sound great too.
Su mentions that her final goal in life is to be a songwriter. I wonder if anything in the future will have her input or if that is something she would even be willing to pursue with Babymetal.
Does she have any talent apart from looking pretty?
She feels like one of these girls that have never had an original thought.
Especially jarring when she shares family name with one of the most intelligent idols (Rena) and one of the most musically talented (Sakiko).
She took the shyness as her idol charm point. Probably because she is naturally shy though. But stands to reason that judging her on that basis is seeing only part of the picture.
>tfw meant to go to bed about 4 hours ago but ended up staring at pictures of Su instead
Guess I'll just be tired tomorrow then...
>not recharging from looking at pics of your waifu
>generic speed metal written by Dragonfarce
>represents Babymetal's sound
>skacore and dad rock being meaner than actual metal-fusion from BABYMETAL the album
the fact that they're going to drop classic live songs to play their new shit really imas my nanji
>the fact that they're going to drop classic live songs to play their new shit really imas my nanji
RoR is arguably Babymetal's worst song ever, and not one person I've shown it to has gotten interested in Babymetal from it. Gimme Choko on the other hand, along with Megitsune, Headbangya, even Onedari Daisakusen, Akatsuki and Iine! are much more "Babymetal".
Babymetal's "sound" is all over the fucking place. Nobody said it represents it, anyway.
Give it a rest already. Your genre know-it-all elitist bullshit is oldhat. Oh, how dare they play their new songs.
>no more iine
>no more uki
>no more OD
I still don't understand how Koba went from Megitsune to ror. How is that possible. Despite both being speed metal, there's a whole hell between those songs.
>no more IMA NANJI
>no more MOSHUSHU
>no more KINKIRARIN
>no more ONE FOR THE MONEY TWO FOR THE MONEY THREE FOR THE MONEY
>no more HEDOBAN HEDOBAN
>no more YON YON
>no more SORE SORE SORE SORE
>Nobody said it represents it, anyway.
>it's the best gateway drug to get outsiders interested in BM
"oh cool a new Speed Metal band, and they're from Japan, let's see what their other songs are like"
>CHIGAU CHIGAU CHIGAU CHIGAU CHIGAU
they were always about pop + metal, now it's just like hard rock + other hard rock.
exactly, it's one of their most epic live videos on their youtube with the massive crowd and high production values, and yet it's one of their least-watched. It's in their name "babymetal", not "speedmetal"
but yeah I don't know what happened behind the scenes like if he wanted to collaborate with other metal bands first and Dragonforce was like second, third, or even last choice but they accepted or there was some red tape with the record labels.
Like if it was meant to impress metalheads with "oh look at how cool we are, we're really a metal band now that we collaborated with Dragonforce" they're about 10 years too late to capitalize on that.
I don't even recall Dragonforce being one of Koba's really top 10 bands when he listed his top 50 albums in some random Japanese magazine once.
Babymetal was extremely polarizing for metalheads, you either loved them and their innovation or you thought they were just Nu Metal 2.0.
No one was really on the fence and was like "oh I like this song but the next one not so much" it was all or nothing.
At most it was like "lol this wud be better if there wuz no girls they don't even shred guitars or growl theyre faggot posers"
It's because Koba thinks that the way they can break into the Western market is by adding more elements of Western elements into their music, hence the excess English that will be integrated into the new album - not knowing that the main reason people like Babymetal is that they aren't Western, not something we would hear on radio or see on TV like the typical shit we're used to over here.
Liking Babymetal, and other "otaku culture" interests are (excuse my language) an act of cultural rebellion, whether we notice it or not. This is sometimes referred to as "couter-culture".
it doesn't matter that it doesn't matter that they aren't cool n the west (anymore), Dragonforce was never cool anywhere in the world for a decade after they went all Guitar Hero.
It definitely feels like they were the third choice who was desperate enough to collaborate with a band fronted from three Japanese schoolgirls and whoever else that was at the top of Koba's list was too busy or too self-important or not approved by Amuse or something.
Plus, if anything it was more a popularity boost for Dragonforce than it was for Babymetal.
I'm talking about the new song THE ONE. Road of Resistance has a lot of English in it too, but you wouldn't know unless you looked up the lyrics thanks to Su's Engrish.
There were talks about singing a lot more English in the new album a few months ago so don't be surprised to see more and more of it as new songs are released.
yea but still, at least collaborate with a band that complements your sound. Don't jump from metal fusion to generic vanilla speed metal because what's the point.
RoR definitely isn't a Babymetal song in my book, it's a Dragonforce song with Su singing over it.
(even though Kami band plays it better live than DF themselves)
nah senpai, 6 year gap between their last two Japanese tours
they're constantly touring Europe and the Americas and straya every year though.
Only the Koba Knows.
Even Ladymeme and Meme Rabbits are hopping on that bandwagon.
Nothing's worse than when a unique group gets popular through their innovation and then they try to get a mass appeal and in the process they dump what made them unique in the first place.
Probably moreso the 80s, but it depends on the artists' or bands' career.
From the top of my head, Maximum The Hormone has been around for decades and they've yet to put out a song that hasmore than just a few English words in it.
We like Japanese music (partly) because it's Japanese, idk why some producers and other people go "well let's have them sing in English then!"
It's not really hate, more like befuddled disappointment with that song.
They had a good on-stage dynamic with Babymetal, but other than that the actual song just makes me shrug really hard when I accidentally hear it.
>Implying anyone in this thread is impressed by bitching and their genre encyclopedia.
Cry moar. Your tears are delicious. Go listen to Doki Doki Morning and long for the past.
>because it's just neat
It's an obvious attempt at trying to appeal to Westerners.
There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but it can lead down a slippery slope of trying to appeal to as much of a mass market as possible and losing that original spark of creativity.
RoR was that first step, and looks like it wasn't the last.
yeah but I'm a liiiiiiitle suspicious of being pandered to when a Japanese band only now suddenly starts incorporating English into their songs once they get into an English-speaking market.
There's nearly more English lyrics in RoR alone than there is in the entire BABYMETAL album
So, Japan, known for exporting electronics, anime, and video games now has the rare instance of having a big musical export and may attune for the world market like all non-fuckhead companies must do in order to perform...
...And this is a bad thing...?
Seriously the lack of priority in people's heads is why we can't have nice things. They're a real band now. Grow up and deal with it.
Imagine if anime series were suddenly being produced immediately with English dub instead of Japanese voice actors, and you could only get the "localized" versions where onigiri are called jelly donuts and all comical accidental boob-grabbing has been edited out to accommodate Christian American values.
>Q: In the end, people in foreign countries were unexpectedly hyped. What did you think was a reason of the success?
>Koba: I think it’s amount of time and effort that we have been taking since the beginning. We never released a song with compromise, but made our best songs as we could. It hit foreign people I think. When I had a talk with media people they said its sound was cool and they have never seen these joyful metal before including performances of these three.
>Q: As a conclusion, no compromise policy is a good decision.
>Koba: I think so. There’s often the case that an original concept gets unfocused by increasing voices when a project gets bigger. But as the case of Babymetal we didn’t care about tying-up promotions from the beginning, took our own way. So I never thought that we had to adopt, or sing in English cause we were going overseas.
>Q: There is nothing changed in particular?
>Koba: Nothing. Just dubbed and subbed presentation movies in English, that played in our lives. Some request for the sub and dub but others do otherwise, I think neither is wrong. It means that they would be disappointed if wrong localization was made. It’s like we don’t have to localize Ramen (noodle) when people expect a genuine Ramen in Tokyo. Babymetal might be the same for them.
You guys don't get it. Some English in their songs like in the BABYMETAL is fine. But there were talks of Babymetal singing more and more in English simply to appeal more to the Western audience.
If they have to compromise any of their originality, and say "fuck you" to their main, loyal fan base in Japan (approx. 100,000) for a few thousand Western fans then it isn't worth it.
They have already started by changing some of their 'crowd participation' lines to English from Japanese, and it feels out of place. I would really dislike it if they were to go all-English like that one anon is asking for.
>They're a real band now.
They are 3 idols with a backup band. "Babymetal" is Su, Yui, Moa. Kami Band just plays the instruments in the back.
This is a good analogy, thanks anon.
When was this interview done? I'm pretty sure I remember the talk of more English being integrated in the future.
>So I never thought that we had to adopt, or sing in English cause we were going overseas.
>unveiling Road of Resistance, a song with lots of English, in London
>not "adopting" and singing English cause they are going overseas
Hopefully 2016 will be the year of Taguchi 2.0
I can't wait for Ayami to return and save us from Babymeme.
>tfw you're usually the first on the frontlines of the Koba Defense Squad
>mfw you have nothing to defend those words and then those actions
>barely any English in any of their songs
>suddenly, in London, reveal a song nothing like their previous style, produced by a semi-retired English power metal group
>lots of English incorporated in RoR
>followed by this interview >>14633290
What do you gain from sucking so much Koba cock you cuck?
Koba is not a businessman, he's a producer. He started off well with Babymetal but he's been making all the wrong decisions ever since Babymetal went "big" overseas.
>alienate Japanese fans
>alienate Otaku fans
>lukewarm response from "real metalheads"
>lukewarm response from general audience
RoR was one of the biggest blunders in BM history desu senpai
This. Put any of the other songs from the first album (except maybe IDZ) performed at SSA into a MV and it'd do much better than RoR and attract many more fans.
Why do you think Gimme Chocolate did so well? It was because it was _different_ from what everyone is used to and it's harder to digest than a song like RoR which doesn't really stand out for anyone.
It's not like fans will stop buying Babymetal merchandise and going to Babymetal shows just because they don't like the general direction Babymetal is going with RoR.
>The album quickly rose to number 1 on both the US and UK iTunes Metal charts. It reached number 1 on the Japanese Oricon Daily Chart and peaked at number 4 on the U.S. Billboard Heatseekers chart as well as 187 on the Billboard 200.
Yeah, what a fuck up. Koba really screwed the pooch.
but they do
Megitsune was released before Babymetal went viral and it sold more than RoR
>in b4 their next MV for their new album is a song that features the dude from BMTH as a guest vocalist
It's also their least-watched music video
The song was so shit it couldn't get its own release as a physical single like every other before, it had to be slapped on the end of a Blu Ray's limited edition and then the album re-issue.
Maybe calling it shit is a bit much, but it is objectively their worst song.
Even your wrong method of judging "quality" (looking at record sales of a growing group) has failed you.
Babymetal exploded in between the time Megitsune and the album were released and the time Road of Resistance was released, and the Road of Resistance MV was not able to outperform previous singles Gimme Chocolate and Megitsune.
Also, with regards to youtube views (where RoR MV was officially released along with Gimme Chocolate and Megitsune), here are the stats:
>Gimme Chocolate: 1010k views/month
>Megitsune: 760k views/month
>Road of Resistance: 573k views/month
(in order of release, so later videos were released when BM were more popular, Gimme Chocolate is an exception since it went "viral")
>Comparing the views of an 8 month old video to vids that have been up for 3 years.
It's still a great count and it's not their worst. The kawaii-metal gimmick could only last like a bubble for so long so going the more straight rout I think is best.
>just short of 7 minutes
>lyrics like "stand in the circle pit (side by side)"
>everything that the song has to offer is heard in the first minute
brb killing myself
This is what I've been telling you all this time man, Koba is killing Babymetal trying to "play it safe" and trying to "appeal to a Western audience".
Bet this doesn't so bad now does it?
>the reception of the newest single released by a music group should be judged by their t-shirt, not CD single sales
An argument was being made that RoR was some monumental blunder and ALL of the fans feel alienated and dislike Babymetal as they are now.
Concert and general sales continue to go up. RoR won them some awards. They've certainly made a lot of money from it. The other new songs sound nothing like it, so it's no skin off your back if you don't like it. The crowds never seem put off by it at the lives, quite the opposite actually. It doesn't seem like a blunder at all.
Sorry I made a mistake, single release, whether CD or digital.
>An argument was being made that RoR was some monumental blunder and ALL of the fans feel alienated and dislike Babymetal as they are now.
No there wasn't. We're just saying that we don't like the direction that Babymetal may be taking judging by Road of Resistance, The One, and the possible increase of English lyrics along with other pandering to the Western market as we like them for their unique Eastern appeal.
>They've certainly made a lot of money from it.
They can make a money off of anything at this point. Have you seen how dedicated Babymetal fans are these days? Some merchandise doesn't last even 10 minutes on A!Smart anymore.
>The crowds never seem put off by it at the lives, quite the opposite actually. It doesn't seem like a blunder at all.
Again, no one is saying RoR is a monumental fuckup that will destroy Babymetal. The argument was that this is not the Babymetal we love to see. I guess we were just spoiled by the greatness of the first album.
Part of that Japanese appeal is their usage of English.
You can be disappointed all you want, I'm not. I've been in this since the beginning and I'm not feeling cheated because they try out some different things which aren't bad at all.
>tfw not even tired after 4 hours of sleep after being awake for almost 20hrs
I think looking at pictures of Su has sustained me like that anon mentioned...
Also, am I the only one who actually likes every new song?... Everyone seems to have a lot of thoughts on them...
Also, I had a nice dream last night with Yui and Moa turning up. It wasn't too lewd but it was very comfy. I'll post it when I get some time later :3
>why is anon shrugging like that?
>he keeps fucking up his playlist and listening to a song that isn't supaa kawaii enough for him, so he shrugs like that every time
I'm imagining some guy at the gym who is skinny as hell except with huge traps, shrugging 200kg while listening to RoR on repeat...
I thought we were going to have a comfy edition but goalpost anon came in and saved the day.
HAHA this nigga was slaying kobafags without knowing the entire frame of koba's shit.
Liking the new music doesn't make you a Kobafag. For how accessible and mainstream it's purported to be now, nobody thinks about how it might actually fit the girls' tastes more.
Everything we've heard so far sounds more poppy.
For >>14631142 and other newfukei:
I've never realised how much of a manlet Koba is...
I don't save Koba pics unless he is happens to be in a Su/Yui/Moa pic, so I don't have anyway which haven't been posted already
>that spoiler grammar
I should really check that the autopredict doesn't decide to change stuff before I post... Oh well, another Su :3
It's less metal, more pop. Mainstream pop/rock. Closer to what teenage girls in Japan actually like. Yui's idol is Ariana Grande. Moa likes One Direction. None of them like Cannibal Corpse.
As the band gets older, Koba is going to have to placate them with music that they like so they don't leave. Maybe even given them creative input on the music in general.
The newer tracks are generally more poppy, but not as schizophrenic as the first album. The intro to Doki Doki Morning doesn't prove anything.
Also, your forgetting the other new track where they keep singing OH-oh, OH-oh, oh-OOHH.
>guys it's generic mainstream pop rock now guys it's generic bland rock pop now dad rock meets pop lel
>okay, it's generic mainstream pop, which the girls would like more
>b-b-but deluded kobafags
desu I find them to be less metal AND less pop, just more lukewarm safe rock.
I would have been fine if they went more metal or more pop for this album, and ideally more metal AND more pop, but instead it's just schlock.
I am surprised to see so much bitching going on in a BABYMETAL thread, I guess it's been a while since I participated in one.
Seriously, I find no problem with their new songs, or their old songs. I like them, and I like the direction they're going. I don't want them to release the same album every year. What the fuck are you bitching about?
this has to be bait, but senpai you don't think it's weird that Yui and Moa forgot which one of them was supposed to like Cannibal Corpse and switched over?
They said that the intro to Catch me If You Can was too spooky for them, there's no way that they're then listening to "Diarrhea Blood Farts" or whatever other Cannibal Corpse song
There's no need to be obtuse, senpai. Something can still be pop while being way less pop than original.
It's also way less fun, I don't want to listen to a 7-minute serious wank-off about how we are The One lalalala.
maybe all of them have listened to CC and maybe they did like a song. I'm not trying to say they're metalheads, they're obviously not, but implying they have never listened to any "real" metal at all ever is just silly, kohai.
We're not hipsters senpai, we're fans that are genuinely concerned with our group already jumping the shark only one album into their career. Most metal bands usually have a decade or two in them before they end up putting out watered down rock.
Nah, people used to post Ladybaby and Death Rabbits here because they're Babymetal copycats and some people were okay with it, others weren't, eventually it became a fanbase rivalry thing and then the LB/DR fans moved to their own 'alternative idol' thread.
desu I'm seeing Babymetal copycats being more Babymetal than Babymetal now.
To every metalfag ruining this thread with repetitive shitposting, without even posting cutes. ｓｍｈ ｆａｍ
give me Doki Doki Morning or Uki Uki Midnight or Yon No Uta or Megitsune or iine or really any song from the original album, they're much more pop (and more metal) than the new ones.
Even Awadama Memer is just like Catch Me If You Can: The Sequel
You guys don't seen to appreciate nor understand the difficult situation creators have to be in in a situation like this.
They needed to go in a direction that could sustain and not just be flash-in-the-pan reaction video fodder.
The LIEK TOTALLY RANDUM aspect was the hook, but not enough to keep it going. Tough decisions need to be made post bubble pop.
More schizo would have been the death of Babymetal.
m8 bands and groups like Kyary and Maximum The Hormone only turned up the scizo dial with every new album and it made them even more popular.
It's not that it was TOTALLY RANDOM XD either, it was a fun mix of pop and metal. Now it's looking like mostly a serious combination of rock and other rock genres.
Ｒather have ant pictures than no pictures.