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You have to get past this demon first to touch the magical sand in the depth of hell.

I know you guys can't so let's just play in L7447.
http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447

For beginners: http://pastebin.com/mu7z1WQk
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I'm confident I can beat Saki in a fistfight.
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>>14600053
Let's not get carried away here.
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3:0 forever
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>riichi'ing when a person has a visible 3 dora.
Clearly a winning strategy.
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>>14600191
No need to be so serious anon it was just L7447.
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Why did you throw the red 5 instead of the 8 man?
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https://twitter.com/tenhou_sisbot
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Will you fags ever learn how to count fu?

I know I won't.
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無職素人童貞短小包茎カンヨンケンバジョウゴミコッパ天鳳六段赤犬は黙れよキチガイクズウンコチビカスハゲデブ。
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>tfw you bully someone out of tokujou
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>>14600330
How do you even know if he's no longer playing in tokujou?
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>>14600330
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>>14600334
see >>14600335, he was 4d R1807

I got very good draws and pulled off two nasty ippatsu suji traps on him after he dama-ronned me for 11600.
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>>14600345
Is there a guarantee he lost 8 R from losing though?
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>>14600356
I was just joking, but you actually made me curious so I looked up his ID and went through the bother of calculating the rate formula. It looks like he lost 11R.

Also, apparently he hasn't played in tokujou until today.
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>>14600376
You probably gave him a severe mental trauma from that, you evil bitch!
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This thread is some major circlejerk. Disgusting!
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>>14600378
He started it!
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>3:0 for a long time
>all the players who queued got bored and leave
>mfw I could've prevented it by joining but didn't
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>>14600419
It's because of you, that I'm alone now.
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>>14600299
It doesn't seem too difficult to me but I just can't be bothered actually trying because I think it would distract me from the game without giving an appreciable advantage
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Why does the lobby text occasionally turn blue? It quickly changes back and doesn't seem to affect anything but it is rather annoying
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>>14600443
Is this on a browser?
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>>14600449
Yeah, it's Firefox
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>>14600455
Virus.
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>>14600480
Why would a virus do that?
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>>14600488
Mahjong virus.
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What would you discard?
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>>14600564
Is this a trick question?
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>>14600564
Well theres that 9 man.
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>>14600567
No, just regular ‘how much of Hisa are you’.
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>>14600569
Hmm, the screen is from a yesterday game, back then I did not consider the possibilities properly, and had thrown off 9m for the 3–4m ryanmen, but was afraid that going for wating on 8 man would be better it obviously wasn’t. Now that I look at it, there’s really not much to discuss about. It is tough only when you’re actually playing this hand and must decide in a couple of seconds to not disclose tenpai inb4 with two open sets it’s already abunai for the others
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>>14600564
Going for the closed 8m wait seems better according to the number of tiles left.
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>>14600662
You might want to count that again.
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>>14600663
Yep I missed that 8m on the top. Personally I'd go for the ryanmen wait though since I dislike kanchan waits.
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>>14600672
But there's no ryanmen wait there?
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>>14600687
You might want to check that again.
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>>14600564
9 because it's too separated
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>>14600701
Oh right. I'm slow to read a hand when it's not in real time.
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>>14600737
The decision is correct, the argument is poor.
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>>14600662
Waiting on 5 and 8 man was hopeless. I think that I’ll be going for bad waits intentionally, when I get into such situations in the future.
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>>14600749
9 because it would lower your score and its a pretty safe discard?
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>>14600774
>I’ll be going for bad waits intentionally

Don't be dumb.
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>>14600775
9 because
- 2 man is a pure trap;
- waiting on 2 and 5 man gives us three tiles, while there were only two 8 man left;
- makes the hand composed for tanyao.

>>14600780
> toimen is going full retard
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>>14600783
>toimen is going full retard

So you think you're gonna play him every time?
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>>14600783
> toimen is going full retard
Ah the plane is hiding his discard, sorry.
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>>14600787
I think there will be enough for my lifetime.
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>>14600788
>Ah the plane is hiding his discard, sorry.
We can see the points transfer, you know? That, and process of elimination tells who discarded it as well. Stop being dumb.
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>>14600798
Fine then. I just hope you won't complain here whenever you get destroyed because you're 'unlucky' and none of your gambles get rewarded despite how 'brilliant' your play is.
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>>14600045
Since when did Saki become a chuuni?
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>>14600800
NO BULLYING
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Does anyone else get the feeling that grinding in L0 is easiest around when it's evening in the japan and most players are online? Seems like more casuals are playing in the evening, and when you play at other times the rate of good players is higher.
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>>14600847
Yes. I feel like I lose more when I played after midnight Japan time but that could be because of the small sample size since I rarely play after midnight.

Statistics also showed that I lost more games on Tuesday/Saturday and won more games on Monday/Wednesday.
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>>14600800
Stop being an edgy kid and calling anybody dumb at the first possibility seeming to be appropriate, especially when it isn’t. The pane hides his discard from which nobody could tell whether it was expected from him to discard a winning tile. On the >>14600788, you dumb ignoramus, it is rather clearly seen that he openly discards mans, thus providing retardation that is mentioned in >>14600798.
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>>14600783
>>14600798
>>14600891
>>14600585
>>14600570
Is there a need for you to avatarfag?
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>>14600922
Every board is shit
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>>14600922
/jp/ is the purest board devoid of any normalfags
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>>14600945
Not that he would know that because he's a crossie.
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>playing against AI in a flash game because I'm too bad to play against people
>suspicious about the AI, might be cheating
>Get lucky and win round with chitoitsu, tan yao, riichi, tsumo, dora 2 and ura dora 2, dealer baiman
>Next is the final round, gonna play it safe and betaori to keep the first place
>mfw the AI in front of me tsumo a kokushi musou on the fourth discard
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>>14600971
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I want to see how far my bad luck will take me. 1285 and still falling!
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>>14600945
I'm as normie as they get, but I still love mahjong
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>>14600997
>luck
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>>14600997
>bad luck
>1285
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>>14600971
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> you will never play mahjong with a bunch of cute lesbian high school students
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>>14601027
>implying L7447 players aren't cute lesbian high school students
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>>14601033
I love how in that image there is one actual cute schoolgirl who is seemingly oblivious to all the crossdressing men around her
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>>14601043
What if that's a trap?
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>>14601048
Good enough for me
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>>14601048
That's a damn good trap
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>>14601043
there's 2 girls in that pic
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>>14601033
Me in the shades.
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>>14601162
Me with the cap thinking intently if I should push my hand or gointo betaori.
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>>14601033
Me on the right thinking if riichi'ing my hand would be the correct decision.
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>>14601027
Hey, lewdgrill and KyuuAA are girls. At least I hope so.
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How long does it take for bad flow to go away?
I lost 30R in yesterday's games and I'm wondering if I can play today or if the bad flow is still lingering.
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>>14601437
Take a break. When you let g of the flow, the only way to get it back is to calm down, and let it come back to you. Then you'll realize that it never left you, it was always there - you just stopped seeing it.
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>>14601437
Just play. If you don't play, you won't lose, but you'll never win, either.
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>>14601437
it's just a game
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>>14601629
Please, Mahjong is the only thing in life you should take seriously.
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>>14601629
>playing nothing but unranked games
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>2:0

>>14600299
I've given up. I can mostly guess what the hand is going to be, but I don't feel like I'll ever bother learning it.
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>5 ura Dora
R.I.P NoName
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>>14603397
>ura Dora
Why is this allowed at all? Honestly, this rule is just stupid.
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>>14603457
To reward people who have balls.
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>>14603457
It's a reward for winning with riichi
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>>14603457
There would be no incentive to riichi otherwise. Especially in high-level play where most people will not deal into your hand.
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Zung Jung > Japanese Mahjong
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Getting 1st is hard, yo. Overtaken way too often.
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>>14601437
> I BET THE FLOW DID THIS
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>>14601437
The only thing that carries over from one match to the other is your mindset. Don't try to make up for your past losses, just play calmly and give it your best.
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gogo pls
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I was in tenpai here for a yakuman, right?
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>>14603870
Yes if you tsumo.
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>>14603861
It was still kinda fun despite those two.

>>14603870
Yup, but only if you drew the tile. Ron will not get suu-an-kou like that.
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>>14603870
Why you don’t print the sheet and hang it before your eyes?
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>>14603870
suuankou yes
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>>14603881
>UNIVERS...

I didn't know a name could be long enough to be cut off in tenhou.
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>>14603881
It was fun to watch too, such a quick game.
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>>14603885
Pls don't bully, I just wasn't sure if the yakuman needed to be a 1 tile wait or if the 2 tile wait was enough.
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>be on FreeBSD
>no flash
help
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>>14603899
Freedom isn't free.
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>>14603899
>FreeBSD
I've never even heard of this before, why are you using it?
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>>14603905
oy m8 i'll make a fokin' free as in freedom mahjong client just u w8
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>>14603912
Alternatively you could see if the tenhou Windows client runs on Wine.
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>>14603910
I've ended up in a situation where I might need to quit being a NEET, or face being kicked out by my parents. I may as well make it something where I work at home from my computer, right?
It' a lot easier to program and sysadmin with Unix.
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I DIDN'T WANT THAT DEALER TURN ANYWAY.
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>>14603935
S-sorry.
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>>14603899
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Firecat, you fool. The 6 pin was safe against that double riichi. That was a double riichi doomed for failure from the start when all of the winning tiles were safely integrated into hands already. You shouldn't have changed this fact.
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>>14604070
Post screenshot.
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>Firecat not keeping the 1 sou for a potential 123 sanshoku

It was also the dora and you had two extra 3s for the pair. The other suits 123 were also already complete. You fool.
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>>14604142
I was merely spectating. I don't remember how to view replays of games you weren't in.

>>14604176
There are always many questionable decisions when you spectate 7447 matches. It's kind of fun to sit back and scratch your head at it all.
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>>14603899
>https://cooltrainer.org/a-freebsd-desktop-howto/
I just found this a while ago.
Maybe it will help you out creating a better desktop experience, as it also has an adobe-flash installation part.
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>>14604142
Here.
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>>14604176
I remember regretting that as soon as it happened, I often make mistakes like that due to the time pressure
>>14604070
This on the other hand is something I either didn't notice or couldn't notice without spectating
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>>14604190
I think beginners are more attracted to sets rather than runs. That's why that Firecat guy discarded the 1s as soon as he got a complete set of 3s.
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>>14604204
I don't want Adobe Flash, if I wanted it I'd use something shitty like Linux or Windows.
I want a way to play mahjong without Adobe products.
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>>14604204
Oh man, I'm reading it right now, and it's absolute trash.
May as well just run Windows instead of the way he uses FreeBSD.
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>>14604228
Ah, I misread your intentions.
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>>14604219
It was definitely noticeable while playing.
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>>14604240
What did he discard anyway?
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>>14604259
He swapped his 9 pin for a 6 pin when the 6 pin was safe, and dealt into a double riichi'd chitsu
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>R is garbage, but still ranked up

Relying on luck and ura will be the end of me...

BUT NOT TONIGHT!
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>>14604337
It's fine to have garbage R if you haven't hit 1d yet.
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>>14604350
I hear you, but it's unsustainable if I want to get to the top.

I wish my 7447 timing wasn't so off, I need to play with you guys more
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>>14604219
You definitely should have been able to notice, IMO. Oya dealed a 6p after South declared double richii, West discarded two 6p shortly afterwards...
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>>14604359
When does 7447 have the highest traffic?
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>>14604362
It's pretty sporadic, I usually just check it whenever I feel like playing or if someone post the player count in the thread I'll queue with them whenever possible
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>>14604362
Whenever mahjong threads are active.
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>>14604359
Tell me your rank and R and I'll tell you if it's sustainable or not.
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>>14604369
When are the mahjong threads most active?
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>>14604367
2:0
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>>14604386
As the other anon said, it's sporadic.

Every once in a while someone makes a random mahjong thread that's not this usual one on /a/ or /jp/, and then 7447 becomes 0:12.
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>>14604390
You were supposed to say "When 7447 has the highest traffic."
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>>14604413
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Do you want to dominate in L7447 but just can't? Rest easy, even if you're a beginner I have a simple method to help you achieve your dream.

Go to L0 and join the nashi games. Play there for about 100 games and come back to L7447. I guarantee you'll notice a great difference in your level once you've done this.
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>>14604476
Who the hell can't dominate in 7447? Most of the people here don't even seem to know the rules.
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>>14604485
>Who the hell can't dominate in 7447?

Most of the players from this board. That's why I posted that here, not on a place where there are a lot of good players.
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>>14604476
100 games of anything will help anyone improve, nashi or no.
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>>14604506
Nope. If a beginner play the ari red they're more likely to play like an idiot most of the times. They'll keep calling whenever they can. The first thing people should do is learn self-restraint so playing nashi is the best way to start.
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>>14604476
>nashi games
What are the nashi games?
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>>14604524
No open tanyao, no red fives. You have to actually think before you make any call if you want to win. Nobody plays that in 7447 but in L0 there are some players.
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>>14604531
Ah okay, I might give it a try it sometime
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Well this was weird (North actually did have a north tile the second time round but just chose not to restart again)
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>>14604829
Why would you reset with that hand?
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>>14604834
I didn't want to, I was only second to discard and hadn't considered the risk of being made to restart
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>>14604829
Maybe he had a great hand? Check it on your replay and post it here.
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>>14604375
5kyuu R1300
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I miss Janryumon
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>>14605135
So do I.
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My body is not ready.
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>>14605128
How many games? If it's like 50 games you'll have another 350 games to raise it up quickly. I went from about 1690 to 1720 by winning two games in joukyuu. At your current rate if you can just get into joukyuu you can be back at 1500 and up in no time if you minimize your losses.
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>>14605158
>.190 deal rate
It sure isn't.
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>>14605158
Ready for what?
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>>14605135
>>14605140
>missing the actual rigged game
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>>14600045
That art looks like asanagi but it doesn't show anything when I IQDB it.

Shame.
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>>14605269
Are you fucking serious or do you seriously believe what you just said?
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>>14605135
JRM players switching over to real tiles turn into faggots, who keep aiming for large hands because they happen all the time in JRM. It's as if JRM is lying to protect these people from mahjong's true hell.
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>>14605234
It was certainly ready for anal raping.
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>>14605212
Now that you mention it, maybe I should start playing the so-called defensive mahjong.
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When is a good time to begin thinking defense in a hand? Obviously if a player goes riichi that's a huge flag, but what about open hands?

Up until now I've ignored defense on the first row of the discard pond, start taking mental notes on possible opponent hands, and go betaori on the 3rd row unless I'm close to tenpai or better.

How do you guys manage open hand defense?
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>>14605495
Those are pretty good basic principles.

I also assume opponents are in tenpai when
1) someone has called two or more times and it's past the early stages
2) someone calls late in the round
3) someone cuts an honor tile or live/dangerous tile from their hand late in the round.

If I'm not iishanten by the end of the second row of discards, I fold if I draw a live tile.

A dora pon also counts as a riichi to me, start folding immediately unless you have an iishanten/tenpai hand with good value, and be quick to give up if it doesn't progress soon.
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>>14605495
For open hands look for obvious yaku and the potential that the guy who opened it might have 2 dora ready to call or might already have 3dora closed.

You basically want to keep an eye on the point difference to see what kind of hands people will be aiming for, keep track of what the dora is (whether it's a honor tile that could be easily roped in on a toitoi or honitsu) and work from that. For a honitsu just don't deal tiles in that suit. For a toitoi go for tiles that you can see the most of, and that obviously aren't close to the edges (1,2,8,9) or live honor tiles.

And at all times you should consider your own hand's value to see whether it's worth it to push or to just fold. Generally for less than 3 han and with a high risk situation, unless I'm the dealer I'll just fold. On the contrary, if everyone's keeping it closed without riichis, and all the dora and plenty of honors are on the table, I might push just to hit tenpai on a draw situation.
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>nine games streak without 4th place is broken because everyone else had more luck than me

Why this game hate me so much?
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>>14605534
A nine-game streak without 4th place means the game doesn't hate you.
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>>14605534
>complaing about a 9 game streak
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>>14605511
>>14605516
Good stuff.

My downfall is pretty much always taking the lure of a good hand and cutting risky tiles

Sometimes it pays off in big ways, but other times...
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>>14605540
Not in this year, anon.
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>That feeling when you have TWO yakuhai pairs on both start hands of the first two rounds of the match and both times another player wins with a dora triplet, which then also happens on the 3rd turn. Then on the 4th turn you get a dora triplet yourself and someone else wins with a 1600 points hand on a hell haku hell wait.

I wasn't even mad anymore. It was just the soul-crushing sensation of complete powerlessness.

>>14605495
There are some indicators for when someone is in, or close to tenpai. Open melds for example, obviously. If someone has two or more, chances are good he's in tenpai. If someone has two open melds I will usually defend if I'm not at least in tenpai with a low value or in isshanten with a mid-value hand. Early middle discards, especially red 5s often indicate a fast hand as well, since Chanta is pretty rare. It's also important to estimate how valuable your opponents hand could be. If he likely just has a tanayao or yakuhai and you can rule out that he has dora you might as well attack if your hand is decent, if he has no or very few discards of a certain suit he likely goes for honitsu/chinitsu and you should defend earlier etc.
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>>14605540
also
>only five hands win within last five games
>three games without winning even one hand

and games like this http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016011201gm-0089-0000-84e809a7&tw=2 give me a cancer. I know that I shouldn't discard other title in S2, but I were so pissed after S1 and aimed for tenpai here.
It just so fucking unfair how easier others complete their hand in comparison to me.
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>>14605698
>E2
>cut 9p from 7899s instead of isolated 1m, which later backfired
>cut 3s from 344s instead of isolated pei dora, which later backfired
>finally draw another pei to get into a shitty 79s tenpai late in the round

You can't complain about yakitori when you're doing this, anon. Brush up on your tile efficiency.
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>>14605714
Not him, but where can I read good tile efficiency guides?
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>>14605749
This is a good introductory overview:
http://justanotherjapanesemahjongblog.blogspot.com/p/list-of-tile-efficiency-articles.html

Also look up the articles on osamuko.
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>>14605714
He was iishanten for sanshoku with possibiliy of pinfu on turn 4. Discarding 3 sou over the dora is fine if not ideal, so I don't know what you're going on about. What does keeping the 3 sou do for you aside from eliminate your hand from going to a higher value with a dora pair and giving you a riskier overflow tile?
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>>14605714
I had bad felling about that pei, but it seems that I was a little bit to paranoid. It was E2 and I tried to build big hand rather that quick one. If I only got that 2m one turn earlier I would end this round with mangan.
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>>14605800
Breaking up 344s on turn 4 is way too early and aggressive, while the pei is arguably even more of a dangerous of an overflow tile in the late rounds and is harder to incorporate toward tenpai if playing defensively.
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>all this technical bullshit
Boooring
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I don't know what this means
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>>14605840
3:0
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>>14605835
Aggressive is awfully vague, while 3 sou is an unwanted tile and is extremely likely to be isolated even if you keep it. Discarding the dora would be a total blunder with that hand.

Even though the Pei is the dora and thus highly valued/wanted, it's a better defensive tile than 3 sou because it's harder to wait on.
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>>14605904
I see it as he already has a 4s pair in his hand, so keeping the pei in hopes of pairing it slows him down too much while exposing him to more mangan deal-in risk. I would like holding the pei more if he were looking to complete the pair.

Also, you would never discard a live dora while being defensive in the late round, making it much worse than 3s for betaori, whereas if the pei were discarded by other players it would lose value as a potential pair. Maybe I value speed too much, but I think it's not worth the tradeoff in this case.
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>this happens
>next turn he gets a Chankan off of me
God damn, I still scraped my way into 3rd though
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>>14605965
A true man.
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>>14605965
>Riichi daisangen
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>>14605965
based anon
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>>14605965
>no going for su ankou daisangen
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>>14605848
You've played 17 games in that lobby this year. Ended up in first four times, second once, third five times, and last place seven times.
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>>14606006
So far this year, I mean. As in this month. These last 11 days.
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>>14605981
Simple reason for that riichi -- so that he can tell every other faggot to betaori and get out of his way.
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Oh, so that's why I had so shitty luck lately.
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>2:4
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>>14606077
Savor it, for you will be sent back to hell soon.
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>>14605284
Im serious.
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>>14606125
2011 called, they want their image search services back
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That was a fun game. Every hand was a big one.
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>>14605848
It means you suck.
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>2:0
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If I'm at 800 games and nowhere close to R2000 should I start a new account?
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>>14606134
What's wrong with iqdb?
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>>14607424
What's your rank and rate now?
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>>14607424
If you've never been 7-dan before, then it's a waste of time subjecting yourself to disgusting Ippans.
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>>14607433
1-dan R1455.
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>>14607444
>below 1500
>expect 2000
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>>14607430
It's useless? Google is way better
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>>14607533
Not for anime images, given that it doesn't log any of the boorus or equivalents. It is definitely a good idea to try Google if iqdb doesn't work though.
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Still learning the hang of the game, is there a good guide for reading other people's discards? Despite playing for less than a week, I feel I've been burned on Ron's too often.
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>>14607545
More like it's definitely a good idea to try iqdb if google doesn't work
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>>14605976
>>14605981
>>14605991
How do you know that these three riichi sticks aren’t left from the previous rounds?
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>>14607552
Don't bother trying to read discards. If you don't want to deal in, discard safe tiles.
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>>14607567
> the turned tile
Oh, me.
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>>14607552
I don't know about others but when people keep discarding tiles they picked up and I'm desperately in need to keep my points, I'd usually start safe discarding. Seems like a pretty simple advice though.
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Why my opponents only can draw haneman-baiman tsumo or plays like retard above.
Sometimes I had felling that tenhou do everything to not let me win.
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Whiny anon from earlier.
What would you guys want from an open-source mahjong client and server?
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>>14607774
Players, like tons of em.
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>>14607774
Flying CG dragons whenever you win a yakuman.
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I just noticed recently that it is possible to closed kan while in riichi. Can someone explain why this feature exists?
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>>14607774

A yakuza to literally come to my house and cut off my fingers if I ever go below +/- 0.
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>>14607828
You're making me laugh, man.
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>>14607835
Because a closed kan is but a closed pon
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>>14607838
> not having a yakuza to inspect players’ hymens for extra aka doras
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>>14606179
Replay please.
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>>14607774
Avatars like in JRM/Toupaiou.
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Sure did squander this beautiful hand which started with triple dora.
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>>14607955
Ako pls.
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>>14608036
Sure it has 3 dora but that is not a beautiful hand considering you're already on your 3rd row of discard.
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>>14608343
If I was smarter with my discards it might have been a tsumo by the time I drew the 6 pin. But I banked too much on the 246p shape, which never filled up since I never drew a 3p or a 5p, and discarding the then-floating 3m and 7s backfired.
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>>14607955
>inspecting mahjong lesbians
I'd love to take that job using my dick.
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>tfw win the game in the last round, avoiding a double riichi in the process
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>>14608518
>4th place
>go for 2000 pt hand

What the hell was that 7-dan thinking?
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>>14608534
A 2000 pt tsumo would force South below 30k.
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>>14608518
sasuga saki
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>>14608022
Details please.
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>>14608801
Toupaiou for example let you use a custom avatar. JRM, before it changed, let you use those little dress-up avatars and pick voices and such. Little customization bits add a nice, personal touch. It's a pretty minor and unimportant feature in the grand scope of things.
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>>14608835
I see. I think I'll go as far as Scorched3D goes, perhaps.
Multiple icons to choose from, and a favorite color.
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I put this on when I riichi and hope for the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXDVyD3wEDk
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>tfw no cute mahjong pro gf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZaRE8eHYQc
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>C has 970 R

Which one of you faggots is it?

This was a dumb game. B and me were the only ones finishing hands.
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Got busted after dealing to 3 ippatsu. All by discarding terminals and no safe tile.

Shit sucks.
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2009120221gm-0001-0000-8f264f66&tw=0&ts=3
If you guys are thinking you are having a bad day remember that you were not the guy that got hit by a double yakuman ron.
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>>14609306
Thats what you get for assuming terminals are safe tiles.
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>>14609357
If he drop 6p instead 9p he could prevent it and even finish with tenpai. I think I was way more unlucky here http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016010807gm-0089-0000-643e3154&tw=3
than this guy.
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>>14609357
you gain/lose more points if you finish with more ingame points?
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>>14609306
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>>14609304
Did Acti come back?
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>>14609357
I think B suffered more. He must have thought he got the win with that yakuman only to be one upped by a dealer yakuman.
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>>14609841
>not calling anything for the purpose of changing the draw order

You deserved the loss.
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>>14610084
What the fuck are you talking about anon?
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>>14610103
You should've called something to mess up the flow.
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>>14610106
From my experience I usually lost more than gain if I trying to do that.
Also I mean whole game, not just E4.
But if you're talking about E4 - everyone else goes full retard and no going betaori here would be mistake (too bad I always pay for others retardness).
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>>14609357
>mfw I got a dealer double Yakuman once

Ended up with over 130K points.
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016011002gm-00a9-0000-3918f120&tw=3&ts=3

I thought this shit only happens in the lower lobbies.
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>>14610158
What, you thought high level players won't ever call tiles?
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>>14610158
>Busting everyone out
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Since 2016 has seen my 4th place stats go from .16 to .4, I've decided to spend a couple of days as a noname going betaori the entire time and try to read discards.

Let's see if that helps
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>>14610213
How many games did you have at .16 and at .40 losses? What's your hand win rate and deal-in rate?

That's probably focusing too much on that one aspect of your game.
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>>14610213
>.16 to .4

You must have not played a lot of games.
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>>14607774
At least Mattari Mahjong tier AI
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>>14610213
>>14610221
Actually, if your games total are still low(below 200 is low for me) don't pay any attention to your stats. They're deceiving.
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>playing in ippan
>always get matched up with 2 other dans vs NoName beginner
>beginner always deals into obvious hands before I can get into tenpai
I need to get out of here.
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>>14610253
I have the same issue. I often get 30000+ points but due to the failure of another player, I end up in 3rd place and get my stats lowered
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Where the players at? Don't tell me every one of you migrated to L0 permanently?
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>>14610294
I think the issue is that people don't usually join if no one else is queued. Just queue up and hopefully people will join
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>>14610298
Not really talking about the queue though. Usually when I checked at around this time there will be 4+ players idling in the lobby.
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>>14610253
Ippan is easy to dominate - quick and agressive playstyle gave me like 60% 1st place rate before going to joukyuu.
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Been grinding furiously to fix stats.

1:0

There you go.
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3:0
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>>14610324
>grinding furiously to fix stats

And what's the outcome? Be honest.
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>>14610334
Not him, but similar situation. Yesterday fall from R1704 to R1611. Back to R1621 but it still sucks.
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>>14610334
+100something both R and pt
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>>14610213
You're better off brushing up on your basics if you're dealing in a lot.

>>14610266
3rd place is fine. The pt and Rate hit you take for it are pretty minor, so don't let fear of 3rd place be a thing.
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Don't let the deal-in rate fool you. Guess which one of this is the better ID?
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>>14610369
I'd say left because of the higher average points and better average position
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EVERY HAND IS SHIT

AND WHEN IT ISN'T, SOMEONE ELSE WINS

EVERY TIME

I HATE THIS GAME
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When are they going to ban NoNames from being a thing? Their only reason for existence is to fuck up the games of others. Nothing prevents NoNames from playing like shit because not even getting 50 4th places has any effect on them whatsoever.
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>>14610378
Part of playing is recognising when someone else has a good hand and then calling some trash to annoy them.
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>>14610372
You should actually look at the 4th place percentage though. Avoiding 4th place is the essence of tenhou.
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>>14610378
Your soul is the problem. It's like a lens covered in filth, making you see everything you're dealt as garbage. Seek spiritual cleansing.

>>14610380
Get an ID and rank up. There are no NoNames outside of Ippan.
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>>14610397
>get an ID
Did you read my post?
>rank up
No fucking shit Sherlock.
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>>14610417
no

bullying
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1:0
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>>14610369
i cant read this
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>>14610433
no no!

"kore wo yomenai"

You're irasshai
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>>14610437
: <
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3:0 you could be the 4th lucky player!
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Gogo please
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>>14610525
No
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>>14610525
It's like he's harnessing the concentrated salt of ippan lobby and using it for these bullshit lucks.
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>>14610247
The graphical interface will be separate from the actual client such so that bots can easily interact with the client. You could program your own bot that way.
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Flow is real.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016011302gm-0089-0000-61008fda&tw=0
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>>14600299

>on a scandanavian woodcarving board
>not knowng latest memes
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2:0.
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>20 games streak without first place
What I have feelings that tenhou rigged my games?
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>>14610977
We'd need logs to know for certain, but I'm guessing you probably need to work on tile efficiency, defense, not challenging every hand, etc.
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>>14610977
Show us your most recent game.
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>>14611053
Since he's not complaining about being 4th place, but about not getting first, I think lacking defense is not the problem. A person taking risks here and there would get first through luck at one point. It's probably playing too defensive, going for closed/more expensive hands even when they won't come together, etc.
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>>14610977
Some of those games probably involved mistakes, but it's just variance. Happens every now and then.
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>>14611084
Skilled players don't rely on luck, but they'll take it when it happens. Ultimately, the game is more about control.
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>>14611092
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>>14611053
>>14611071

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016011305gm-0089-0000-89e03c20&tw=1
My last game. Third place this time, but if I think about it, it have everything with I have problem lately (especially that ippatsu tsumo when I was oya).

>>14611084

On 21 games I was 4th only four times. No perfect, but I don't complain about it.

>>14611090

Well, if I wouldn't make any mistakes, I would propably be in Houou long time ago. I just find it very weird that I have so long streak - sure, it happens to me before, but usually after this I just win game after game and everything goes back to normal.

>>14611092

Funny fact, but usually even if I dealt early into big hand, I always have feeling that I can easly overtake it. This month some games just feel that I could as well do something offscreen instead of playing and the outcome would be the same. Dunno why.
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>4th place upon 4th place because hands never come together while everybody else build pon palaces
I guess the real truth of this game is to always betaori whenever you're not iishanten after 6 discards.
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>>14607774
When Ron, Tsumo are available, do not let player discard a tile with a single click, unless he specified it so in the options.
Fuck tenhou's hair trigger.
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>>14611288
That sounds like a self control issue, but sure, can do.
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Apparently there is an open source mahjong client available, but it looks pretty bad.
https://www.kde.org/applications/games/kajongg/
In my package manager, installing it requires installing 143 packages, and it only supports classical chinese mahjong, not even japanese mahjong or hong kong mahjong.
I'll make sure never to look at the source code of it, or ever use it.
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>>14611505
It is, and it's not like it happens often, but it's generally horrible when it does happen.
Also, touchscreen support would be cool if it's easy to do.
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>>14610165
No. High level players allowing that shit to happen. The 8-dan was guilty of feeding them honor tiles to the point of hadaka tanki.
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>>14611619
I don't think touch support will be a big issue. If I can't do it, at least the graphical interface will just be one of many to the actual client.
Think about it like as with GNU Go and GNU Chess. They're actually text-mode programs, but many graphical interfaces to them exist.

Right now I'm still in the thinking and planning stage, I haven't written a line of code yet.
I'm thinking about efficient and consistent ways to display the whole table via text, both to humans and to a graphical interface.
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Just fuck my shit up man
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>>14607828
That's Mahjong of Walkure, isn't it?
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Someone is streaming mahjong on twitch, username is xiei
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>>14613107
Stop advertising your shitty channel faggot
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>>14613107
He seems entertaining, is he any good though?
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>>14613107
This guy sucks.
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>go into my second dealer round (South 1) with 700 points
>win seven times in a row, leaving with over 50,000 points, giving me a more than 20,000 point lead
>still only get second due to a yakuman tsumo knocking out the third player in South 2
I don't know how to feel about this
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2:0
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>>14613359
Shit like that happens to me all the fucking time.

>get a comfy lead
>play conservatively to maintain lead
>dipshit gets lucky and gets sanbaiman tsumo in spite of my mad rush to open tanyao

>Pushed to 2nd

Of course such miracle hands are nowhere to be seen when I'm trailing in 4th..
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>>14613401
There's a reason mahjong is used for gambling.
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>>14611143
> This month some games just feel that I could as well do something offscreen instead of playing and the outcome would be the same. Dunno why.
Do you even control the table?
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Alright, pop quiz. Guess shimocha's wait and explain your reasoning. This isn't a trick question.
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>>14613750
>shimocha
A better question is who this is, given you made the players anonymous
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>>14613756
Terminology. Shimocha means the player to your right, kamicha is the player to the left, toimen is the player across.
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>>14613762
Ah, okay. I don't really know how to work out the answer, but I'll guess a north tile as none have been discarded so far and they are the most likely player to be collecting them
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>>14613766
>but I'll guess a north tile as none have been discarded
But they have.

Anyway, I'm not confident, but I'd say a 1-4 sou.
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>>14613766
>north tile as none have been discarded so far
Check again, I discarded two. If he was waiting on it, it'd have to be a tanki, but if that were the case then he would have kept the 7779p shape instead of the pei hell wait since it waits on 89p.
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>>14613750
My guesses are 47s, 25p, or 36p. Breaking it down:

It's not 258s or 369s. 14s is possible but less likely because he discarded 3s from his hand before 4p and 4m, meaning he likely didn't have 334s, while 3s would be a useless tile for 356s.

For manzu, it's not any of the dora. It's not 47m or 58m from suji and it's not 69m because 8m is kabe. 36m is possible but less likely given three visible 4m.

For pinzu, it's not 147p. It's not 58p or 69p because 7p kan. The 4p discard could have been from a 344p or 445p.
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>>14613800
*didn't have 233s. Also, there are three 3s visible.
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>>14613793
>But they have.
And this is why I do so badly
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>>14613750
Which one is the tile discarded directly after making the kan?
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>>14613800
Spot on. His wait was 47s.

People often ask how they can read waits. While a lot of the time it's impossible, there are also many occasions where you can do it quite easily just through observation and process of elimination.

>>14613828
The rinshan draw was 5s, which he tsumogiri'd.
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>>14613756
> > shimocha
> A better question is who this is, given you made the players anonymous
Is this the same thread where anons boasted about muh sacred terminology?
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>>14613750
My guess is that it can be anything. 1級 isn’t high enough to not go for strange waits. And judging by the open part of his hand, he either has a set of doras, or a yakuhai + dora, which is too shitty to open a hand for.
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>>14613863
You shouldn't assume that people will make mistakes unless you see them making mistakes. Incidentally he was R1800+, which is pretty impressive for 1k.

Also note that it's tonpuusen. A 2600 point hand is good enough for tonpuusen, especially since you don't want to go into oorasu in last place, because then you're required to win a hand to escape.
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>>14613875
> unless you see them making mistakes.
This hand actually does looks like one.
> Incidentally he was R1800+, which is pretty impressive for 1k.
I’d like to see his rating on his first thousand of games.
> Also note that it's tonpuusen.
Ah, okay then.
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>>14614052
Not him, but I think it wasn't a mistake.

The guy's last by 1000 in E3 of a tonpuusen match, so his priority should be to win anything at all as quickly as possible.
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Is there any particular reason why the male voice says 'reach' whereas the female voice says 'riichi'?
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>>14613750
8 sou
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>>14614117
patriarchy
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>>14614117
Males can't into mahjong.
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Will I become the best player on Tenhou if I adapt Akagi's strategy?
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>>14614223
No. You'll probably be the worst.
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>>14614223
Yes. Always call everything you can and wait for haitei/houtei. Trust me, it works.
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>>14614117
Feminism
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>>14614070
> Ah, okay then.
> Ah, okay then.
> Ah, okay then.
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>>14614223
> the other players will wait until my tenpai to discard useless tiles
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3 : 0
:
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>>14614334
>implying I need to get in tenpai before calling tiles
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>>14613401
Happened to me in my last game. I had a comfortable lead in South 4 when someone riichi'd a shit hand and got 4 uradora to upset me.
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>>14614385
LOL OPEN CHANTA
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>>14614117
The last "i" of a word that ends with ち is frequently omitted in Japanese, emphasizing the "i" is a feminine thing (but not always).
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>tfw South 4 dealer Honroutou comeback

http://tenhou.net/5/?log=2016011402gm-0009-0000-4bb9a4c1&tw=3&js=1
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>Tfw dropped from 1826R to 1741R without losing a single game.
16 3rd places in my last 21 games. The 5 games remaining were 2nd places.
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>>14614769
>16 3rd places in my last 21 games

That is pretty incredible.
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>>14614769
>Three straight 4th places
>In tokujou
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>in 3rd place
>S3, isshanten from suuankou
>yes, time to make my comeback
>someone else calls riichi
>draw a fourth 4s, call kan out of desperation
>draw a fourth 8p, call kan again
>didn't even advance hand into tenpai
>guy to my right puts down the winning tile for the guy in 4th, he was damaten
>gains 4 dora thanks to the kans i called like a retard
>get sent to 4th place, where i belong
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>>14615057
I recently riichied on S4 for suuankou by discarding 7p from 667p instead of doing the sanankou 58p wait, even though I was second and could surpass first with a mangan.

I regretted it when I drew an 8p a couple turns later. The possibility of yakuman sure makes people do dumb things,
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>>14615076
I'm one of those people who plays level-headed until there's a slight chance I can get a yakuman. Even if that chance is only 0.001% I go for it because I'm a masochist who likes being disappointed.
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>>14615087
>a slight chance I can get a yakuman
To get yakuman, you must identify when you even have a chance at it.
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Do no subs exist for the Saki OVAs?
Like Biyori and Kuro's Birthday

There's none on nyaa, and they're not included in batch torrents.
Not even AB has them.
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>>14615384
I'm still waiting, as well, anon.

It's been months.
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>1:4
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>no gyakuten
baum

baum no
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>not letting 2nd and 1st duel it out
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Sorry 1:0 I don't feel like playing again
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gogo does it again
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>3:0
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>NoName disconnected through the entire match

God dammit I don't want to play 3p.
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Don't bother ranking up. The upper lobbies are full of bainin. If you aren't cheating yourself, you're going to lose a lot.
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>>14615933
Are you for real or are you trying to keep me from the cool kids' club?
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>>14615966
I'm for real. Don't bother.
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>>14615976
What proof do you have? You can't make an outrageous claim like that without any evidence.
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>>14615977
I can make all the outrageous claims I want without evidence. But it's true, believe it or not. If you were here, you'd understand. Weird shit happens all the time.
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>>14615933
How do you even cheat on a game where everything is dealt with server-side
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>>14616047
If you think Tenhou's is secure enough to where you couldn't read data off a server or even manipulate it, you're crazy. The guy can't even make his pay client secure.
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>>14616054
But I still don't get how you think people are cheating.
Still, in Japan Tenhou is considered to be a good representation of even a 'real' mahjong played if you have a high dan.
And high level Mahjong online players are all fucking NEETs who would know about this stuff and wouldn't consider a Tenhou ranking as worth anything if any script kiddie could cheat so easily.

Besides, what would people even 'cheat' with?
Seeing the wall? Other hands?
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3:0
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>>14616065
People will cheat without much reason other than to feel good about themselves, they do this in every game. Hell, you could boost accounts to high Rate and sell them if you wanted. If you developed cheating tools, you could sell licenses to people wanting to boost themselves. The motive is definitely there.

As for how, even having only the wall seed available as information would be enough to clearly know your opponent's hands as well as what they draw, and what you will draw. If you were dedicated enough you could write a program to organize the information for you.

I'm just saying, give it some consideration. How likely is it? I don't know. Am I just belly-aching because I'm on a bad streak and playing poorly? Yes.
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yararetaaa..
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>>14615990
>Weird shit happens
Like what? Pls tell me.
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Aimed for yakuman at S4, just to get ron'd to last place. Fuck this shit.

3:0
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This felt pretty good.

Even though I ended up in third place in the end, that's better than fourth place.
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>tfw declare kan while in riichi but didn't get rinshan
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>>14616293
>Like what?
Nothing. Don't listen to him he's just salty.
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Entire games go by as tsumo and noten widdle me down to 4th

This is getting ridiculous, I was winning more when I ignored defense entirely
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>>14617347
>winning more

Don't compare ippan to joukyuu. OR

Don't compare joukyuu to tokujou.
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