Kantai Collection -KanColle-

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I currently have chitose chiyoda at level 26 and level 23 unremodelled with 4 daihatsu for use in either ex36 or 40 overnight

In the event I require the use of 2 AV, and have not acquired akitsushima or mizuho, is it better to remodel them or keep them unremodelled?

Atago is fat
Kaga is dumb

>>14578311
Do you care about stats and have Jun'you and Hiyou? If yes, keep them unremodeled.

If you play for the QT grills, just get two pair.

>>14578311
Leave them as AV with 2slots.
You will get Kamo and Mizuho and once you get them, you can scrap them or turn them to CVL.
Get additional 2chi sisters as CVL if you want both form. You will never have enough of CVL.

>>14578311
If you live in a country with $ or something similar as currency you might keep them as AVs even after getting Mizuho and Kamo - because Kamo is useless in battle. After the event you'll be able to get dupe ChiChis to CVL Kai Ni in a week without trying that much.

>>14578369
>>14577918

>>14578311
I always do expedition 36 for tons of fuel but it requires 2AV, so I kept mine as unremodelled AV until I got a duplicate pair before turning them into CVLs.

>>14578385
I guess it depends on your lifestyle. Ex38 is far more efficient for fuel while for bauxite 11 or 35 are straight up better overnight despite being shorter. 9 hours is too long for me, whenever I wake up in 8.5 hours or less, ex36 would be resulting in loss of resources.

>>14578476
Just send out exp36 earlier before you sleep. It's more efficient at that point to return 480 fuel by sending them out earlier than to run 38 once you sleep for 420. In terms of minmaxing fuel expeditions that extra half hour in your example time isn't enough to squeeze in any of exps 21, 5, or 38 anyway.

>>14578522
I mean, you could run ex2 or ex6. I think ex24 is outright superior to ex36 because it fulfills my conditions (8h20m), gives more fuel and with additional ex6 gives more bauxite and it also has built in chance of great success if you bring drums while having laxer requirements. While I'm at that, ex38 has base 50% GS rate meaning it's either 420 or 630, average 525 fuel. It's also easier to guarantee GS with just four ships.
But now that I think about it, I'm probably against ex36 mostly because I prefer sending Mizuho to ex35 which gives 40% more bauxite. Getting fuel is super easy during day with Orel and 5/21/38.

I thought we were getting Satsuki K2?

>>14578561
Could be Nagatsuki too.

>>14578546
I usually run both 38 and 36 overnight so comparing the two is moot. Then again, I'm in no need of baux since I have Taihou so spamming buckets during the day and fuel at night is my priority. So in the end it's really just a matter of what each of us need more.

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So, I'm one of these guys rushing into 6-2 to clear the new year's quest.

I just read the branching and seems Taigei isn't even good for this map, what's the best comp? 6 subs? 4 subs + Taigei + ABKM?

Please respond.

>>14578702
This map became far easier over the course of last year.
Use Goya, Zuizui, KTKM, ABKM, Ro-chan and third sub. There's little difference between Hachi, Shioi and Iku. If you lack LoS, stuff planes on third sub.

>>14578702
3 SS 1 CLT 1 CL 1 CV

>>14578734
>over the course of last year
It became easier in a flash.

>>14578747
ABKM, chevrons and Cranes didn't happen at the same time.

Oh, in case anyone was wondering why Zuizui is so high - to murder Ru flag on node B before it has second shelling. Boss is easier than route.

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>>14578734
>>14578747
I was expecting Taigei to be useful here.

Guess I'll try that composition, since I just tried her with 5 subs and both sniper and whale got reck.

>>14578763
The problem with Taigei comp is that whatever subs don't kill in opening strike, will target poor whale with closing torps.

Sadly, just like Akitsushima is terrible choice for 6-3, Taigei comp for 6-1 is far from optimal, especially now.

>>14578758
>ABKM
Didn't make it any easier, actually. Bringing ABKM gave you a torp but cost you daytime DA as well as 2 hotel planes' worth of LoS. It was before chevrons so even with 2 saiun and 2 hotel planes you could still get thrown off so you needed a sub to carry planes. Before chevrons were a thing if you brought ABKM instead of Ooyodo you were just asking for trouble.

>chevrons
Was what I was referring to.

>Cranes
Made it marginally easier at best since Taihou was already more than enough.

>>14578771
>whatever subs don't kill in opening strike, will target poor whale with closing torps
Exactly what happened. Guess since she's already lvl 50 (from pvp) I'll throw some remodeling plans at her.

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The world needs more Myouko with her hair down. The image from last thread only whet my appetite.

>>14578803
Myoukou

>>14578781
We have chevrons now. I think ABKM is better choice than Ooyodo. As I said, planes go to third sub which is useless anyway because of shit stats and low luck. Ooyodo's double attack sucks, it won't harm Ru flag or kill Ri flag while single attack is enough for DDs.

>>14578787
I was really sad when I was attempting this map ~8 months ago. Had my whale around level 50 and at 100 morale from PvP, went at it until sparkles ran out, didn't even reach the boss once.

>>14578814
Point is ABKM was before chevrons. If you wanted to bring ABKM before chevrons you needed 2 subs to be plane mules. It was only because of chevrons that ABKM became viable to use at 6-1.

If chevrons came before ABKM though you'd be right.

>>14578787
Mine was level 25. just fill her with bulges.

>>14578812
Miaogao.

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Ashigara does it again.

Thanks guys, I've cleared 5-3, 5-4, 6-1 and completed the quest in no time thanks to your advice, you are truly my greatest allies.

>>14578953
Good job!
>lv70
Damn, I should let my Wolf taste some victories or she'll get angry, still in the middle of chain.

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>>14578787

Just throw in some DDs, I beat 6-1 in one try with this comp

>>14579070
How much luck does your Akatsuki have?

I does one clear 6-1?

My subs are getting red on the first or second nodes which I have no idea what other compositions to use for this map.

It looks like having your CVL red is the main drawback though I'm not really experiencing that which is pretty weird.

>>14579108
>CVL
Found your problem

>>14579108
You have to read.

>>14579098

37 but it will be 45 when I decide to stop being lazy

>>14579113
So use CV instead?

>>14579114
Read what? According to wiki:
>1 CLT, 1 CL, 1 CV(L), and 3 SS(V) is an effective fleet for taking out the boss but it will have to go through node B where there's a Ru-class BB. Note that this fleet can send you to dead end node H.

And I don't have Taigei so that is the only composition I could possible try. And I'm getting countless retreats due to my subs being red.

Fully sparkled, max stats and average level of 70 yet I can't even reach the boss node.

I can't count.

>>14579116
During Summer event I found that 35 was too unreliable, I wouldn't consider the cut-in outside of flagship position with less than 40 luck.

>>14579120
Why would you even think about using CVL instead of CV?
Anyway, fixed.

>>14579120
The map is bullshit if the subs do not take out the ASW ships in one sweep.

>>14579147

Yeah I'm just using cut-in for the hell of it, wouldn't use it at 37 if I'm tryharding a map and it isn't something ridiculous like summer E7

In fact I'm getting her all the way to 53 because Shigure cuts in much less often than beaver despite 50 being "softcap"

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>>14579170
According to the tests, 60 is the actual cap. I recently brought my Lady to 52 luck so one more Maruyu to finish the soup is all I need at the moment.
Flagship with mixed cut-in seems to have cap at 70 or more but that is only a realistic setup for CAs.

>>14579189
>Lady
But Akatsuki isn't one.

>>14579189

Great taste, friend

Unfortunately there isn't an easy way to break it off at 60 for me, which wouldn't be a big deal except I get Maruyus 6% of the time in default LSC (average: 15%)

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>>14579217
She is!

>>14579217
Akatsuki is a splendid lady.

>>14579225
Same to you, she's lovely. I have it somewhat better at 10% from minLSC but last event wasn't kind at all with very low drop rates.

You can use single Maruyu at a time. With Kai there's 60% of her giving two luck, worth it when you don't have perfect numbers. That's how I got Akatsuki from 50 to 52. I don't remember how it went exactly but I got 7 points during Summer because I had to fix up her luck (35-> 42) to fight Antizuki and was running out of slots from E5 farm.

>>14579226
>>14579235
It's past your bedtime now, Akatsuki.

>>14579226
I'd hole punch that flag.

>>14579276
I'd punch my flag into her hole.

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>>14579270
Real lady isn't afraid of night!

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>>14579290

>>14579314
Sorry, that sounded forceful but I didn't mean it that way. I'd be gentle and make sure she'd feel good. Naturally the goal is to make her a cute expectant mother and I'd obviously take responsibility.

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>>14579321
Much better.

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Ele-chan best kancolle

6th div is the best team.

Other destroyers are seconds to none.

>>14579451
I always thought they were uninteresting, especially since 2 of them look too alike and only Hibiki has the cool factor.

>>14579471

You should be a mod then. Any single post that has x in it should be banned for a day, yeah?

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too bad me need free xp

>>14579451
The cutest and no war crimes.

Literally perfect.

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>>14579562

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>muh efficiency

>>14579451

but m-muh shigure

>>14579590
Imagine playing a game like this for the mechanics.

>>14579569
There are no good or bad guys in a war. "War crimes" are literally something Americans invented in order to get rid of people they didn't like.

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>>14579613
Oh I like me some mechanics alright.

>>14579621

Americans did Nanking and the Holocaust. The Chinese and the Jews have been shitting on the wrong countries this whole time.

>>14579637
I'm not saying those things didn't happen or that the Americans did them. People die during wars, why should it matter how or why it happens?

>>14579637
They aren't even the biggest crimes.

>>14579621
What's funny is that Americans used to kill Japanese PoWs all the time.

>>14579646
Because there's a difference between indiscriminate massacre of unarmed/surrender POWs and civies, and being KIA during battle.

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>>14579677
Sounds familiar.

million of Japanese civilians were killed by Americans, but nobody says its massacre

>>14579677
Yeah, that's why murrikka never firebombed Tokyo or dropped 2 nukes which claimed 90% civil lives. For freedom!

>>14579696
>>14579703
>>14579707
Yeah, but these were all justified by the fact that the people they were fighting were criminals, just like the trials that they held after the fact proved.

You guys managed to go from /c/ to /pol/ in just a few posts, nice.

>>14579715
>war crimes are justifiable as long as you win
Turns out it's true.

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>>14579721
/h/ when?

>>14579721
Blame >>14579471 people got afraid of posting girls and other posters came.

How do I stay motivated to do LSC? I try for Musashi, fail miserably and grind back to regen cap again just to fail again. It is discouraging, I could be using the resources to farm equipment instead.

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>>14579813
Keep at it. When she arrives, you will feel like the luckiest teitoku on the planet.

>>14579646
Well if the Japanese stopped acting like a bunch of dindus it wouldn't really matter.

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H-Here we go!

>>14579853
Take a torpedo bulge for each CA except Choukai.

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>>14579853

Good warm up girls, I'm sure you'll get to the second node next time!

>>14579866
Are you using support? It's expensive but it'll save you headaches in the long run.

>>14579853
How about doing 5-1 with Akatsuki first?

>>14579872

No but I guess I should at least use route support.

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>>14579853
You're going to need god tier support, but at least the boss route is guaranteed.

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>>14579853
What do you think about Kinugacha?

>>14579976

Cuteugasa a cute.

>>14579976
Not as downy in her Kai Ni, pretty ok.

8 sorties to 3-3 and haven't reached the boss a single time? Why do people bother doing the weekly on this map again?

>>14579976
Nothing. She's just there.

>>14580011
Exp for CAs and it isn't hard.

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>>14579976
It's been more than 2 years since the last and only Fujikawa remodel. Why the hell does Tanaka allow this?

>>14580011

Because it's still better than doing it at 3-4 or 3-5.

>>14580011
I just do 3-5.

>>14580025
No it's not. 3-5 south takes almost no resources and is really easy if you use an AV and Abukuma.

>>14580034
AV? How often do you get routed off course?

>>14580056
Never

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>support kills the DDs
>doukousen
>this happens

What did I do to deserve this

>>14580065
should've gone line ahead

>>14580065
Melon tried her best.

>>14580065
>What did I do to deserve this
Played Kancolle.

>>14579976
Very cute. My second highest level in the CA department.

>>14580020
can i run CVLs instead of CVs if i'm using 3 CAs for 3-3?

>>14580093
I always run CVLs.

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>get 45 resources from all nodes in orel run

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The lack of Poiding in this thread disgusts me.

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Is she the most huggable boat?

>>14580206
I wish I would go north route, it's almost never north. And when it is, I get 20 fuel.

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Ha ha, time for Akatsuki 5-1!

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>>14580259
nope

>>14580323
I hope you have a lot of fun.

>>14580323
>Akatsuki 5-1

Don't forget: you're here forever.

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>>14580217

>>14580339

>hugging a sleeper agent

>>14580476
Love Live is so fucking cancerous.

>30 points
>used 3 damecon
devs please just ban me already

>>14580526
I like the yuri, not much else.

>>14580486
They're all sleepers.

>>14580535
Are you honestly buying damecons?

>>14580573
ive bought 20 in the past 2 months

>>14580590
Jesus fucking shit Christ.

>>14580620
well unlike you i dont have good luck

>>14580642
No, you just don't have patience.

>>14580649
it's not about patience
i don't mind waiting if i get the same per hr rate as everyone else

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Destroyers on cleaning duty.

>>14580085
>Kancolle
>small c

>>14580093
With plane ranks you can even run 4 CA 2 CVL no problem.

>>14580217
>Poiding
Poi-ing.

Also base form is cuter.

>>14580590
For what purpose anon. That's the amount I typically buy in a year.

>>14580590
Why even use damecons

I've literally only used one ever, and that was in some 2-3 quest which I didn't even beat (so it was wasted basically)

>>14580716
Protection.

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I finished all the weeklies in 2 and a half days.

>>14580753
>he didn't finish weeklies in less than 1 and a half days
おそい！

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Holy shit, my luck has been through the roof lately. I'm not doing this dumb map again until I get an armored CV or two.

>>14580869
Do 5-4 for a few weeks, your levels suck.

>>14580869
>Shell in the first equipment slot

You're triggering me.

>>14580888
Levels don't matter.

>>14580891
Just saw it's Sanshiki and not AP on Kirishima. No wonder he had trouble.

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>>14580891
He can't be as bad as some of the nips in PvP.

>>14580901
They do.

>>14580902
He would have failed the run if it was an AP shell. You never know when they will hit the boss.

>>14580901
This.

Your ships get rekt just as frequently at high levels. And they miss just as frequently, too.

>>14580911
no they don't
only luck matters

>>14580901
You need them for remodeling.

>>14580917
He would have killed more things in day and his CAs wouldn't get so wrecked if he had AP Shell. Yasen isn't the point of AP.

>>14580919
Go ahead and attempt next event with low levels then.

>>14580935
I'll see what I can do.

>>14580902
You don't need AP shell if you take 2 good CVs. From the image, it looks like he entered at chuuha.

>>14580590
So now we know who funds Tanaka.

>>14580969
I bought 90 slots and 2 repair docks.

Most expensive video game in my life.

>>14580590
Are there even any ranking rewards that you believe are worth the effort?

Would be nice if we could queue up ships for a repair dock.

>>14581021
Would be nice if we could queue up ships for expeditions.

>>14580994
need 8 51cms
and then no point ranking

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>>14580962
There's nothing you >need< if we get technical but that way of thinking doesn't lead anywhere. I always take AP Shell and two good CVs, you can have both. If I want to gimp my fleet I use weaker ships but I'll always give them optimal setups.

>From the image, it looks like he entered at chuuha.
Yes, that's also what I was talking about. With Sanshiki you have pathetic ~50% chance of DA. With AP Shell you have ~70% chance of strong special attack. If your BB does single attack, it's very likely Ta will survive in chuuha or shouha depending on engagement or armor roll. Cut-in always kills or at worst disables her (in case of hankousen and bad armor roll). Single attack is also less accurate.
With chevrons, AP Shell's strength is even clearer because there's higher chance our BB will target opposing BB since more trash dies. APCI is also superior to Sanshiki vs boss in day battle (crit cut-in in pic).
AP gives advantage in first node, third node and day battle with boss. Sanshiki is better in yasen vs boss. I don't have problems choosing.

>>14581029
Would be nice if the game played itself for me.

>>14580991
I bought 20 slots for trophy destroyers, most of whom I've scrapped by now. And as long as you have two buckets + Akashi you don't really need extra dock slots.

>>14581057
You don't need buckets or Akashi either.

>>14581057
>buying slots for DDs

>>14581057
I bought 100 slots, having every ship is nice.

>>14581104
But which one do you love the most?

>>14581104
Give me your Mizuwho. She has been single-handedly wrecking my kantaidex completion for months.

Will Winter be the event where Shinano finally comes? There is a leftover catapult with her name on it, I don't want it to go to Zepp out of all the carriers.

>>14581178
Zep wont get it, she already has catapults.

>>14581178
Next event will handle another catapult so we can have both Akagi and Kaga kai ni.

Then wikiatards could discuss if they are PCV (potato CV) or CVP (CV potato) during months.

>>14581178
No, because some people didn't clear E6.

>>14581178
>shinano
>ever release

Will Shinano or Enterprise be released first?

>>14581203
Most people don't get a lot of things, why is this different?

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I only have one furniture fairy. Should I blow it on the Toshikoshi Soba or the Kadomatsu?

>>14581230
Ships (and their remodels) will be available to everyone.
Only equipment/furniture is NEVER EVER.

>>14581194
>remodeling two outdated, antiquated CVs
With all the remodeling and modernization upgrades you'd have to do you may as well just modify an Unryuu or just build one from scratch.

>>14581203
>>14581241
Makes you wonder why the fuck they handed out the E-6 catapult at all.

>>14581324
If you accidentally scrapped/sank one, you can still recover.
Or, maybe you want a dupe. For whatever reason.

>>14581324
You had one before the kusos, for a limited time.

Will Tanaka and friends be shitty enough to make half the new ships in the next event drops again?

(Please say no)

>>14581382
No way to tell

>>14581381
>for irrelevant amount of time
fixed

>>14581382
The girl of the event will always be the reward.

>>14581391
I'll bet some SEA monkeys are still trying to complete the quest.

Anyways, is a casual browser game, what were you expecting?

>>14581411
>Anyways, is a casual browser game, what were you expecting?
I hate this argument.

>>14581416
Can't face the truth?

You guys take this slot machine too seriously.

>>14581423
Fuck off to facebook.

>>14581426
Isn't Facebook basically the western DMM?

Maybe I could even play a game about Boatdudes, a RNG simulator with bald and manly marines.

>>14581432
As long as you never post on 4chan.

>>14581438
Why? I'll even get a trip, so you can follow my blog adventures. I'll change it every week to skip your filter.

>>14581411
>>14581423
>casual browser game
This argument is stupid and I'm even more stupid because it gets me every time.

>>14581432
>Isn't Facebook basically the western DMM?
With the exception they're nothing alike yeah

What the fuck, every month it's always 4 sorties 4 kills on 4-5 followed by taiha's every time on both the non-sub nodes without ever seeing the boss. Neither of the wikis mention anything about final forms on the preboss nodes so what gives?

>>14581448
So Canthis isn't a browser game now?

Can you explain us why is a serious, skill dependent, hardcore game?

>>14581458
Well, both are run by jews and poplar among normies, that's all my knowledge about Facebook and DMM.

>>14581461
Something called RNG.

>>14581423
Casual is about players, not games. There's almost no game you can't play hardcore or casual depending on what you want, and Kancolle is not one of them.

>>14581448
Yeah. "look at me! i don't give a fuck about something I spend hundreds of hours on! it's just something average and I don't like it that much! I'm such a nerd but still a cool one because I say bad things about the game!". God, why is this filth part of same species?

>>14581458
DMM started out as a JAV streaming site m8.
The better comparison would be redtube and not facebook.

>>14581464
>runs by jews
now that's just a joke, and
>popular with normies
>DMM
Yeah you grossly overestimates your knowledge pal.

>>14581465
It can't be just RNG when this has happened without fail every single month.

>>14581471
>"look at me! i don't give a fuck about something I spend hundreds of hours on! it's just something average and I don't like it that much! I'm such a nerd but still a cool one because I say bad things about the game!"
How did you got that from "KanColle is a casual browser game"?

Do you have angry issues? Maybe mental problems? Did you skip your medication today?

>>14581478
Dude, DMM sells concert tickets and Disney movies. That looks like pretty normie stuff. I ain't a normie expert tho.

>>14581493
>DMM sells concert tickets and Disney movies.
And ? That's no popularity indicator.

>>14581493
Everything in your posts screams cancer. You're the worst kind of wave of posters who've been flooding 4chan in recent years. I can only hope some car rides you over tomorrow.

>kancolle is not a casual browser game
Didnt hear that one in a long time.
>>14581514
Look at how he writes kancolle, dont bother with him.

>>14581507
They even host the most popular (and casual) browser game in Japan: Kantai Collection. Shit must be popular.

>>14581514
I'm here since the split, nerd.

And how the fuck I'm going to be run by a car if I don't leave my house? Stupid normie trying to fit. Guess you came straight from the /a/ threads.

It's actually a trading card game.

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>>14581529
>And how the fuck I'm going to be run by a car if I don't leave my house?

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>>14581178
That leftover catapult is for Taihou.

>>14581542
She can already equip jets.

>>14581534
Trading my virgin/lvl 1 mizuho to your umikaze, used or not used. Just PM me folks.

How should I be setting up ASW gear for Akatsuki 5-1? One of Raiden gets full ASW gear and the other+Akatsuki gets 2 guns and a sonar?

>>14581559
Any excuse is good for a kai ni though, right now she's outperformed by the cranes.

>>14581529
>the most popular (and casual) browser game in Japan: Kantai Collection. Shit must be popular.
alright just stop now, it's getting ridiculous.

I don't know for how long you've been there but I have to agree with >>14581514. Maybe you're jus here to troll and have a good laugh, but you're not even doing it properly. Just look at the replies you're getting, it's not rage and trolled people, but simply anons telling you there's no logic or any sense in your posts.

I won't wish for your death because I'm a nice guy, but I certainly wish for you to get a bit more education.

>>14581560
>virgin
we almost had a deal

>>14581542
Taihou kai ni with medium range? Could be nice.

>>14581568
>Maybe you're jus here to troll and have a good laugh
Actually, it started as a joke and it went a bit out of hand. Point still stands, Canthis is a casual game.

>it's not rage
Just look at this guy >>14581471 >>14581514 And I wasn't even trying to get him mad. Guess he have issues.

>>14581571
And an even cuter butt.

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>>14581565
I did this.

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>>14581605
best wife

>>14581605

Why no double attack on Nagara?

>>14581591
I really shouldn't, but here's your reply. If you're not here to troll, then if must be for a discussion right. So, how do you define a casual game?

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>>14580339
Why is Mizuho the most underrated newships? She has the least fanarts compare to the rest i think.

Reminder that B44 should be named after whatever flagship you use, so Akatsuki quest is only valid if you used Akatsuki as flagship.

It's Kirishima quest for me.

>>14581643
She's useless.

>>14581565
>>14581605
>>14581618
I went with 2 guns + sonar for Nagara and one of the DDs, other exclusively for ASW and other with AACI.

Don't forget both route and boss support.

>>14581619
Easy to learn, not demanding too many time (you just need a few hour each week if you don't rank) and doesn't require skill-reflexes-motor coordination.

Basically, it could be played by my grandmother (if she were alive).

>>14581647
Most people will remember it as Akatsuki quest simply because she's in it and it was added the same day as her kai ni.

>>14581643
Speed nerf from fast to slow, and insanely hard to drop.

>>14581648
She's better than the Cheetos in AV scale. But it's not like we need AV all the time.

>>14581618
I wanted to take a balanced ASW fleet in case the sub didn't show up, it didn't anyway and almost failed because hankousen + taiha Akatsuki.

>>14581655
>it was added the same day as her kai ni
And how many newbies would even remember that? Or care, for that matter?

Also applies to those who were on a long hiatus like that Shinden Kai guy when that quest was added.

>>14581661

>slow speed

She's garbage

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>>14581643
People like the slutty teacher over the pure shrine maiden.

>>14581664
>newbies
Those are expected to research things or get fucked.

>>14581669
Does being slow or fast have any effect other than map routing?

>>14581643
Nips having shit taste as usual, what else? Im dying to get her since I spoiled myself some of her lines.

>>14581675
I'd agree with you otherwise, but they don't have to research shit that doesn't apply to them, such as when stuff got added.

>>14581678
IIRC if all the ships are fast you get some hidden placebo evasion bonus.

>>14581653
>easy to learn
the very basic perhaps, but the whole game mechanics are not even known, and what's known so far isn't trivial.
>not demanding too mcuh time if you don't rank
So this depends on the player, not on the game
>doesn't require skill-reflexes-motor coordination
That's the only point that applies to Kancolle, but I'm not sure it's very relevant for casualness. World class chess definitely doesn't looks casual and players don't need that.

So yeah, no game is casual or not, it all depends on how deep you want to play it. There's nothing wrong with being casual mind you, if you don't want to spend time ranking or fiddling with the theory to optimize the shit out of your compo it's alright.

>>14581678
Slow ships are always bullied.

>>14581684
Placebo bonuses are my favorite.
>>14581686
That's rough.

>>14581682
It's not like that's hard, there's an archive of updates in the English wiki and I even remember a page with everything about the game chronologically in the Japanese one.

>>14581696
It still doesn't apply to them so there's no reason for them to look it up. 3-2-A guides are everywhere but since I never do 3-2-A they might as well not exist for me.

>>14581467
>>14581685
>Kancolle
>small c

>>14581684
I don't think it was actually implemented.

>>14581686
Akitsushima? And most of the more popular auxiliary ships, really.

If Mizuho was a permanent 2-5 drop for example I'd say she'd be at least 80% as popular as Taigei.

>>14581685
>but the whole game mechanics are not even known, and what's known so far isn't trivial
Just reading the wiki for half hour gives all the info you'll need. You can check it later for doubs, and the hidden mechanics are just a bit of minmaxing that you don't really need that bad.

>this depends on the player
IMO, wasting too much time doesn't makes a game less casual, just a skinnerbox.

>World class chess definitely doesn't looks casual and players don't need that.
Fair point, but unless you play chess casually, you'll need a lot of memorization and quick decision making. You don't need that for KanColle.

Again, I don't think that "casual" is pejorative, it only defines the game difficulty + learning curve + skills involved with just one word.

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>>14581673
Such a shame. Mizuho is the only ship in this game that i can consider 'hugable' and call her precious.

>>14581722
>I don't think it was actually implemented.
I'll swear there was a tweet from the devs, but didn't found it with a quick check, so maybe it doesn't exist.

>>14581722
>>14581746
I think it was a meme made out of the amount of useless shit that had the beta screenshots, nothing else.
>>14581727
Perfect wife material, I want to give her some food tough, her arms are spooky.

>>14581725
>all the info you'll need, ... , a bit of minmaxing that you don't really need that bad.
You don't need to play the game at all. What is needed in game is personal choice.

>Wasting time
How do you define it a waste ? I've been playing Kancolle since it started and not a minute on it feels wasted to me.

>but unless you play chess casually
so you agree it's playstyle that is casual and not game?

Actually, can you find a game that could be said to be not casual, that is, could not be played casually?

>>14581643
Because she's a traitor.

>>14581746
>>14581684

It was supposed to be 'a fleet whose ships all have the same speed rating does not suffer an evasion penalty' but they decided not to implement it.

>>14581762
I thought you fought something that was born evil and manage to rescue her soul from wickedness. And that's where she came from.

>>14581767
Possibly, but she's still white as fuck and looks like she can snap and turn Abyss again at any moment.

https://gomakemeasandwich.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/why-the-term-casual-gaming-needs-to-die-in-a-fire/

Top kek

>>14581779
It would be nice if she turned me into an Abyssal Admiral while she's at it.

>>14581781
>genuine fans of Rob Liefeld

That exists?

>>14581779
Won't that make it more dramatic? More spice in your struggle for love and trust.

>>14581765
So an all slow fleet wouldn't have suffered an evasion penalty either?

Haven't played in almost 2 years. Any gameplay or other interesting changes?

>>14581918
Too much, read the wiki.

>>14581918
I don't see the reason why you should play it again, be thankful you're free from this hellhole.

>>14581918
There's a new mechanic roughly every event and 4 events per year.
Though the appeal of the game didn't really changed, so if you didn't like it 2 years ago it's doubtful a couple new gimmicks will get you back in.

>>14581669
At least her LoS was buffed. You never know when it might come in handy.

>>14581835
That was the intent, yes.

It's an oversimplification, but I assume the devs had in mind the historical practice of grouping together ships of similar performance for fleet cohesiveness in battle, mutual support, etc.

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Maybe I'll try again later.

>>14582153
6SS

>>14582169

>CLTs have Sonar+Depth charge

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>>14581215

>mfw Flugzeugtrager B(or Peter Strasser) releases before Shinano

>>14581187

Zep gets yasen Me-262 and/or angled flight deck

>>14582153
>lv135
>lv123

You are missing out on the exp.

I love how white Graf and Akitsumaru are. We will make white children.

>>14582194
It's too spooky.

>>14582169
1 un-kai'd DD + 5SS instead, so he'll be in line ahead & you can laugh off KitaOoi ASW

>>14582204
It gives off an air of mysteriousness and untained purity, like a full moon in a cloudless sky.

>>14582194
>Graf
>Akistumaru
>Mizuho
3 more ships until the abyssal infiltrator fleet is complete.

>>14582179
who drew this

goddamit tumblr

>>14582224
Maybe they just sent ships to learn about our culture and way of life to better understand us and stop the war.

>>14582227
It's a facebook filename

>>14577888
I want to marry Chiyoda.

>>14582242
Good luck healing her trauma.

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>>14582242
She just wants to be noticed.

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Last edit, will not touch again.

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Does ship positioning in the fleet matter? Can your girls block each other shot in certain formation or is formation just give fixed parameter bonus/penalty to the whole fleet?

Also, did I understand this right about HQ level pros and cons?
+ chance to craft equipment
- higher level opponents in practice
- stronger enemies in extra maps at 40 and 80

Is that all?

>>14579866
Sasuga Mikawa.

>>14582296
I love that Takoyaki magic outline.

>>14582283
A good dicking or two would fix that. There's nothing the dick can't do.

>>14582300
PvP is determined by rank, not HQ level. I don't know about higher chance of crafting, but having a higher HQ level is good for natural regen but tougher enemies, though not so tough besides 1-5 nuclear sub.

>put triple torps on a low level flagship destroyer in pvp
>if she makes it to night battle she can instakill ships 60+ levels higher than she is

balanced

>>14582327
Heavy ships dominate the day, light ships rule the night.

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>>14581260
Apparently Kaga had preliminary work done for catapults and there were plans for Akagi as well so it's not as unbelievable as you might think.

>>14582327
I don't think you know how this game works.

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>>14582327
Yes, and?

I don't get it guys
We've got the fourth memedals for weeks, it's 2016, and we still cannot get the blubluprint for Yamato K2. What is Tanaka waiting for?

>>14582372
I hope you're pretending to be retarded because nobody implied Yamato was getting remodeled.

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>>14582372
>he actually fell for the Yamato Kai 2 meme

>>14582372
>implying memedals will ever be used for anything

>>14582372
Jesus Christ you're fucking retarded.

>>14582300
>Does ship positioning in the fleet matter?
Yes, quite a bit. Both yasen and the second shelling phase are executed in a top-down manner, so the order of ships is very important when any of the two are deciding factors of whether you get a kill or not.
>Can your girls block each other shot in certain formation or is formation just give fixed parameter bonus/penalty to the whole fleet?
Diamond has the highest flagship protection rate, followed by Echelon and Double Line, then Line Abreast, then Line Ahead.

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>>14582372
Why do people actually reply to this again?

>>14582463
Because by the time Spring event came around, people were serious about Yamato kai 2 requiring 4 memedals despite absolutely nothing hinting the medals would be used for that, if at all.

>>14582224
There's also Yuu, but she got brainwashed by the torture that is Orel.

Apart from trying for LSC ships and dailies, I can ignore ship construction completely and count on drops from grinding map right?

Maybe I'm just lucky but I've gotten a bunch of keeper BB/CV and rare DD/CT/CA from drops, enough to keep progressing for now so I'm wondering if I should just save my resources.

3 T91 AP shells to +7 or just one to +9? I have 3 extras laying around.

>>14582515
>I can ignore ship construction completely and count on drops from grinding map right?
Absolutely, except for the daily quests of 4x 30/30/30/30.

>>14582515
I got Zuikaku from construction, rather than the hundreds of event farming runs for 2+ years and ~500 or so 5-4 runs in total. Didn't even show up from LSC for Taihou.

>>14582515
You should be spending your resources on leveling your girls, crafting is fine as long as expect nothing but modernization fodder from it and treat anything good that comes from it as a fluke

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What's this ship at the 5th position?

>>14582550
朧改

>>14582550
Shinano

>>14582550

Mutsu

>>14582550
The ugly duckling turned fabulous.

>>14582550
Krabby

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>>14582550
Dude, it's Oboro

>>14582564
I see it.

>>14582587
Jesus fucking christ I hate this little faggot.

>>14582550
Norshelle

>>14582610
Got a problem, Anija?

>>14582587
copy that

>>14582637
I want it dead.

Finally starting the submarine expeditions

The wikia recommend refreshing when farming 4-1 to avoid avoid damage, isn't it risky or once every 5-10 mins is alright?

>>14582643
It is. We never heard of explicit bans before because of it but you never know.

>>14582658
I like it.

>>14582658
5/7

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>>14582658
You got a problem there, m8?

>>14582296
Is this what I've been missing out my entire life. A cute girl to go out on dates with

Where did it all go wrong

>>14582708
A girlfriend won't suddenly solve all your problems.

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>>14582711
But a magical girlfriend would, right

>>14582711
A cute girlfriend like Agano would though.

>>14582716
>>14582718
The part of you that makes you incapable of having a girlfriend now will remain even if you get an Agano gf.

So the moment she leaves, you'll still be the same as before.
Change comes from within.

>>14582718
Agano a fat

>>14582742
You mean soft.

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>Why won't the Admiral ask me out?

>>14582751
Too busy popping all the DDs to worry about some titty monster like you

>>14582751
TTK is an anime MC.

You have to build up chemistry with him before he falls for you.

>>14581643
Her sprite is ugly.

Lichten des ankers!

>>14582751
Her voice gives me lung cancer.

Nenohi's gives me a staph infection.

>>14582643
I think occasional use is okay, but don't spam it. From the few cases I have heard people blame refreshes for bans, it has usually coincided with constantly refreshing after a resource node.

The last I heard of that was.... six months ago though. So it's not terribly common. And it's mostly hearsay, so take it all with a grain of salt, but still, it's your account at stake, bud.

>>14582820
When you look at it from their perspective, it's probably really hard to tell the difference between refreshing the page and simply losing connection/reconnecting. The evidence that you're intentionally abusing the system has to be undeniable to justify a ban.

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>the year of our lord, two thousand and sixteen
>poi STILL doesn't have hourlies

It's beyond comprehension at this point

>>14582816
Even her little radioactive sister has a nicer voice, is she really the oldest one?

Why the fuck does Kashima have so many fanarts she is garbage.

>>14582854
Instant slut status. Everyone is busy jerking off to her right now.

>>14582854
Because most of artists spend majority of their time drawing and not playing meaning they suck and can't clear events. So half of them only got Kashima and she hogs all the attention.
Supposed mixture of sexy & cute but it doesn't affect me nearly as much as others.

>>14582854

Lewd design combined with the fact that she was the event ship that basically everyone got.

>>14582854
>she is garbage
no, she is sex

Is AS+ worth it on 4-5 final?

Is it safe to get rid of Sendai and Naka after unlocking the 3rd fleet?

>>14582992
you have to go out of your way to not get AS+

>>14583020
Sendai gives yasen equipment
naka gives nothing
if you are in desperate need of ship slots ditch naka

>>14583020
get Sendai to Kai Ni then scrap her.

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>get Haruna from drop
>excited
>check her gallery
>mood ruined

;_;7

>>14583189
How's your KC experience?
Did you finish the tutorial?

>>14583194
It's my 3rd day, pls no bully.

>>14583189
Why?
She is the cutest Kongou.

>>14583200
I'm not.
I hope you will have a "nice" experience to this game. May the RNGoddess bless you.