Princess from the moon was a classic hit movie amoungst japanese teenagers. Just as America had a set of popular movies based around teenagers, so did Japan. Japanese and Americaican 1980's movies would develop classic teenage movie classics.
>>12270446 I take it that it was about Kaguya-hime? Worth looking or, or too difficult to find? >>12270457 >shooped in hands and then airbrushed in the barrel of the gun but didn't bother to put it in perspective with the butt of the gun I feel my autism flaring up
>>12270469 Yes it is,but...>>12270478 probably is British or from some where in Europe. The Criterion collection owns the rights to the movie outside of Japan but has only released it in England for dvd. Criterion has yet to release them in North America. If you live anywhere outside of Britian than you'll need a multi region dvd/bluray player to buy/watch this film.
You could always download the movie, sure, but it doesn't bring the clarity or niche side comodities that come with the actual hard copy. Criterion version of the.movie is still going to be better than any dvd made in Japan too. Lastly you could buy the overpriced verstion of the dvd on American amazon for pirated vhs quality $100 if you were that desperate. Buying multi dvdplayer and u.k copy would be cheaper still. Hulu plus has it with the criterion collection selection though. Seems like if the criterion collection doesn't have a dvd distributed in North America than they have it on hulu plus. Its a shame, because almost all their steller retero master peices aren't released in the U.S, not even 3 of Mishima's movies are here in North America release.
>>12270785 Its all just the same companies and families making money by sepersting and selling the rights to different regions. They make more money seperating the regions and then have the imort taxes they benifit off of skyrocket when others are importing dvds and that specidic region's dvd/bluray player. It was the same thing with vhs.
If dvd and bluray distributors cared about the people all across tje world than they would form a union saying they wold only host region 0 dvds/blurays and dvd/bluray players, but they don't because then the certian companies and families wouldn't sign contracts with them and open their own factories.
This is how things work. Divide and conqure the wallets of the peasents. Props, cause they certianly did it in terms of video pleasures.
Vhs region lock is tje worst because its hard importing a japanese vhs player these days that will play my japanese 1980's vhs tapes.
>>12274072 I think 1980's cloros and designs is what is appealing to me when I post these images. I agree with you when you say if you just like it for coming from the past is dumb. There is that 180film quality they just don't use anymore in movies that the 80's used always. Its aedthetically appealing to look at. The hair styles are out there as well. When I mert a girl with 80's hair I flip the HELL out. Its more the quaility desgin put into products and the accomplishments of artfulness through mediums in the 80's that I enjoy. Do you really think a movie could pull off a sucessful marketing campain looking like this today? Tje ssign is appealing to the senses yet simple an unique. Look how they cut out different parts of the movie and make the poster have almost vissual iformational of the movie. So many things being said that most posters don't do to this day.
And who can forget the stunts and special effects seen at concets, movies, tv, that are all but dead today.
>>12274072 It's not a fetish, it's nostalgia. At least for me. >>12275082 The 80s was kind of an interesting time in a lot of ways. A lot of enduring pop culture came out of the decade, and even people who were born after the 1980s have some familiarity with 80s pop culture.
>>12275435 Not really.While i never got into the really old stuff I love 80s music. 80s idols are the only acceptable idols, leagues above those talentless future prostitutes they put on the screen today.
>>12275082 >>12275114 Well I'm not saying you can't like things from the past. It has a lot of history to offer. The problem is when that history is lost on people who glorify a mythic, disconnected past that's distorted by fiction and/or nostalgia. Adults who can only think of good times and kids who think the 80s is nothing more than synths and neon, picked up from a movie like Drive. Tumblr is full of the latter and that annoys me. There's no incentive to engage, rather tumblr's all about recycling content.
I love analog distortion. I like VHS fuzz because I grew up obsessively watching tapes. But I never say VHS is better than DVDs. It kinda sucked to be honest. That's what I mean by fetishism--elevating it in terms of meaning or value just because it's old. Saying shit like "retro anime is so much better" or something without getting why it is the way it is (stories, production methods, contexts). What's really interesting is not what we're attracted to, but why we're attracted to it.
Also, I really like 80s (anime) hair too. It's so big and comfy looking.
>>12275449 >I love analog distortion. I like VHS fuzz because I grew up obsessively watching tapes. But I never say VHS is better than DVDs. It kinda sucked to be honest. That's what I mean by fetishism--elevating it in terms of meaning or value just because it's old. Saying shit like "retro anime is so much better" or something without getting why it is the way it is (stories, production methods, contexts). What's really interesting is not what we're attracted to, but why we're attracted to it. I'll agree with that. VHS tapes, cartridge games, all frustrating as fuck. But I get the people who go to lengths to get their emulator to look the way it looked when they played as a kid, there's a kind of odd charm to it. I happen to like film photography for party similar reasons(but mostly because old 35mm cameras were simply built way better than today's DSLRs - tanky, metal construction with chunky buttons that give really satisfying clicks). >Also, I really like 80s (anime) hair too. It's so big and comfy looking. Big hair wasn't just limited to anime.
>>12276005 >I happen to like film photography for party similar reasons(but mostly because old 35mm cameras were simply built way better than today's DSLRs - tanky, metal construction with chunky buttons that give really satisfying clicks). Analog is always warmer and more nostalgic. Film is especially more potent than digital and requires a lot more skill to get right. New digital movies with their cheap filters are a real turnoff for me. And it's nice to see things slowly deteriorate over time. Old pictures feel a little more magical when they've faded over the decades. I'm probably sounding like some of the people I've complained against, but that feeling of transience is a beautiful thing. I feel the digital age has lost that. If there's one thing that makes "retro" appealing, it's that simple fact of imperfection and impermanence.
>Big hair wasn't just limited to anime. Yeah, but it looked especially nice in anime. Real life big hair doesn't really do it for me. Real life in general doesn't really do it for me.
>>12276082 >Film ... requires a lot more skill to get right. I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Black & White and Color Negative film are exceptionally forgiving, which is what led to the rise of cheap fixed-focus fixed-exposure cameras. You can easily guesstimate exposure with color negative film and get good images, no meter required. For a complete newbie, an old auto-exposure camera like the AE-1 and a good color negative film Portra or Ektar will probably return better results than a DSLR. Slide film requires more skill, but it actually shares a lot in common with digital, in that both have a narrow dynamic range requiring more precise exposure control - not to mention slide film is quickly going the way of the dodo. A lot of people will point to bracketing exposures as a reason digital is easier than film, but most old film photography books recommend bracketing exposures to make sure you got it right and many photographers practiced it.
>>12276135 Ah, I was talking about film like for movies. You obviously know more about this than me. I don't know if it operates exactly the same way, but I've heard that getting lighting and filters right for movies on film stock is considerably more difficult than digital. I've only ever used digital, but I know that you can easily film decent scenes with minimal lighting contrivances. Just white-balance, block a little bit and that usually works, even for outdoor scenes.
>>12276216 Well lighting is a beast no matter film or digital, but digital does have several advantages over film like being lower in bulk, and giving more immediate control over ISO and white balance, ect., but there's so much more to recording video than just that. Digital certainly makes for an easier post process, and there's a lot less worry about running through all your film stock. It was also harder for a long time to review shot film with any sort of convenience, not to mention syncing up sound.
All other things the same, digital is easier, but video is a massive undertaking either way.
Yeah I read it, sorry about generalizing so much. But I'm sure that you can agree with me atleast to some extend. Most of the people ignore old Japanese movies and music, missing most of the jokes and referenses in many new series. They always complain about "having to be this japanese to understand" some films and anime.
>>12279553 Yes! I ag???. Every time this happens in modern day movies or tv shows I always am like ''hahaha so funny...but noone around me would understand this joke...I wish there were those who knew these small refferences that are so tied to Japanese culture".
>>12285622 Yes it is. It was made right before Suzuki made Branded to Kill. There was a secind film,schedguled with the full script already,written, but the studio fired suzuki wrongfuly without any pay for his movie branded to kill or severance. Seijuin suzuki then sewed the film company and won not only the law suit but also public favor. Despite this no one would hire him for 10 years later out of fear that his movies would flop along side a rebelious attitude.
Fighting Elegy's love story tied into the action is the most beautiful love affair in all of world cinema.
Most of her discography can be found at tsuzilla (blogspot) , with lots of more retro music. Sadly there's only one of Ishikawa Hitomi's albums there, would be nice to listen more of her stuff as well.
Besides well know Japan actio Club Ninja movies, does anyone know any classic 1980's Japanese movies? They don't even have to be well known or famous. Heck! Some of the bedt ones are the cheaply made ones.
I've gone to great lengths pursuing.special affect Japanese 1980's fantasy.movies and Japan Action Club always, ALWAYS, delivers in the 80's; mostly consisting.of some off shoot ninjas.
At this point I've started watching the 80's Hong Kong and Taiwanese Ninja Exploitation films NOT to mention the cut and paste Alex Ho movies. Honestly, the Hong Kong and Taiwanese Ninja films aren't all that bad since they sometimes frature well known Japanese actors and huge amount of special effects, but Alex Ho movies....are the lowest.
>>12297692 >>12297695 Thats pretty great.find for seeing them in a local store. Anyway you can post pictures of the store? Interested to see what else would be there. Sounds like they'd have some other Japanese merchindice if they just.picked up those 2 random magazines.
Also I wanted to ask you two.if you know anything about Sukeban Deka. I found tje tv dvd series in Japan but its a popular show to this day and tje dvd was equvilant to like $150 U.S D or so. At the time I didn't have the funds to just drop all that on a single dvd boxset. But I did see the Original 1980's manga volumes for ?1700. Didn't have room in the suit case for it. Decided to wait on it until next year. Its a manga series that comes in and out a lot as a whole.
>>12308241 It's all good, I wouldnt mind having any of those. >>12307255 I suppose? I think there's more editing involved and prolly 2deep4u hipster-theories related to that stuff. I just like the old music combined with run-down tape-feel to it.
>>12319281 I'm not finding any video links to this. You've got to post a link to a review or video for this when you're posting something like this anon! Here's another movie on it. We still need the one you posted though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEMfH7c8XSs
>>12322740 If you're going to watch it than please watch the Japanese version that has both vital deleted scenes that never were put into the world wide release and an actual dialogue that makes sense. There is a few movies with Yamata that are good. I did an image search on the title and found a website that has a few screen shots and a 27 second video of the movie. It's a shame, because Japan has some excellent special effects from the 80's that are mostly dead in the U.S, but excelled in the 70's and 80's. Fans of these special effects are left wanting more fantasy movies with great special effects. Such fans need to realize that Japan has those fantasy effects in their 1980's film and TV. If the West could get more hyped about Japanese cinema than we could all enjoy those special effects more. Here's the link.
Pic related are quick drawings from members of the Japanese Amiga community. The Amiga computer had less than 5% of the Japanese's computer market-share, but had a faithful community, like in many countries.
In the first one there is, with Nausicaa, Madoka from Orange Road, Creamy Mami, Mahou no Emi, and Pastel Idol Yumi. In-game there's Minky Momo too, but you can't strip her, she's the hostess and don't play against her.
They were a low-budget arcade game manufacturer, so I don't think they could have the money to hire a good artist at first. They did hire a better one later with Mahjong Triple Wars and Sailor Wars though.
I don't think no, none of the CGs of the PC-98 version look like they have a style close to the ones on Alicesoft productions. Maybe the original Arcade version, it has a different style overall (it even have Eve from Megazone 23).
>>12291640 Momoe was great and made some great music. She's no Akina (nobody is) but she's a great #2. I liked her as an influence for Akina, both the powerful voice and ability to do her own thing on her own terms.
>>12343271 No you have the right version. The muffled voice was the point: the whole thing was intentionally this weird fever dream of a pop album (she was influenced heavily by the soundtrack of The Exorcist). It's very much a dream pop/ethereal wave album.
Listen to some stuff like Cocteau Twins, it's way more along those lines just a bit poppier. I love it, it's a great album from start to finish and I guess she was trying to make some kind of statement about how she was more than just an idol because it was the first album she had control over.
>>12343368 Samefag but again, the muffled voice was intentional. She actually originally recorded the album normally, then listened to it and thought it didn't sound right which led to EUROX coming back in and Akina re-recording the vocals using a vocoder and whatnot to heavily distort her vocals (and then obviously they were mixed more into the instrumental tracks). I love it, she sounds like a ghost haunting the entire album.
The first version of Back Door Night (with her normal vocals before they were re-recorded) used to be on Youtube but that went with most of the other Jpop that got purged. It's still a good song but the version that eventually came out is way better I think.
>>12291640 Hm. She has some great songs. Her Voice is nice too. But for a reason I cannot point out she is not among my favourites. It probably is not momoe herself but rather the melodies and tunes in her songs that are nothing special to me.
There's various sites for '80s jpop or Japanese music (like the previously mentioned tsuzilla). Anything similar for '90s stuff? Maybe stuff up until the rise of Namie, Ayu and the like in the late '90s.
Yeah! /jp/ retro threads. I love old Japanese stuff. I can spend hours going down a rabbit hole of pop culture stuff and end up with tons of cool stuff. I'll keep the thread open with stuff I come across if you like. But for now Yoko Minamino aka Sekuban Deka I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5T0iWI9TYk
So here's some retero links I promised that one anon in this thread. oh great thanks 4chan for not letting me post multiple site links at once. >Our system thinks your post is spam I can't even post the most important sites. Geez. When did 4chan spam control become a dictatorship? That terrible feeling when this next site hasn't been updated in 4 years. It's like a knife of age cutting into my belly.
>>12395817 >>12395913 >>12397060 These criticisms are flimsy and the distinctions arbitrary. Stop letting nostalgia cloud your judgement. Every decade has its masterpieces. And if you're talking animation, while I lament the death of cel, it has only gotten more refined. While storytelling form has broadened, this does not mean less quality.
But, I'll throw my own opinions in too:
70s anime, best music 80s anime, best character designs 90s anime, best animation quality and depression
>>12403853 One thing I don't like is the overuse of non-flat baseplates around then. I mean they make nice building props but they are shit to store anywhere and there's only like 3 or 4 they keep repainting.
>tfw you'll never go back in time back when japan was bad ass, japanese men were men and anime was violent >now you have to deal with their uguu hiroshima radiation autistic anime bullshit for the rest of eternity
>>12403853 Brings back so many memories. I remember all of those. I could never get the big ones though, my family didn't have much money, so I'd try to conduct then as best I could from the pictures with what I had.
Of course anon, of course! I need to find the Newtype Magazine cover with a really nice Memoru drawing on it. it's hidden somewhere on my HDD, but I'm too lazy to find it. Here's a Fanroad cover with a screencap thumbnail instead.
Also, while talking about Fanroad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2EN1oy3R44
Wow. I should frequent /jp/ more often. Seems like people are still interested in retro threads. I am sorry I did not continue the general series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FmG-0mTYtnE#t=1485 This is a full album upload with the url set to track 6. While its not of japanese origin said track has atleast some japanese vocals. So there is that.
You might want to check out the entire album. It is one of my favourites.
Does anyone else think the 90s was the golden age of J-Pop? Stuff like B'z, GLAY, Mr. Children, ZARD, 90s Namie, Every Little Thing, SPEED, and so much more. You even get golden-era Morning Musume, Ayumi Hamasaki, and Hikaru Utada at the tail end of the decade. Seems like everyone here focuses on either the 80s or the 2010s.
>>12431325 >typewriter Come on nigga educate yourself. Which reminds me a while back I suggested a live stream full of retro Japanese adverts, con videos, music, anime ops, and retro Japanese PC games. Is that something people here are still interested in seeing happen?
>>12430961 >Culture, both past and present, is shit though seriously, how can you walk and not fall to the floor having a head full of air? Because you´re implying that american and european culture are better nowadays The fact that modern culture icons this days are the Kardashians, Justin Bieber and miley Cyrus says it all. And by the way, music is a representation of a country´s culture so please dont contradict yourself trying to look bored and unimpressed
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