Daily Japanese Thread - DJT #1898

諦めとこう

>>78812471
I know this.
Then translation will be like "Being rich and spending much money. This doesn't look like a freak show"

>>78821404
It's so extravagant and popular. You could almost forget it's a circus show.

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今日も一日がんばるぞい!

>>78819682
you get way more attention from chinese if you speak their language, and the chinese girls are just as pretty

>>78821460
I think it's not "popular"

should I give up trying to learn Japanese and go for Mando instead if I'm ethnically Japanese but westernized as fuck
beginning to feel like employers can't tell the difference anyway and Japan's a kinda shit culture

>>78822419
>あわたつみ
that could have been a name perhaps

Looks like the mods did soem cleaning up.

fucking weabos

how do i learn English well?
i want fix bad accent, more memorise vocabulary. i can only write simple sentence with using a simple word.
anyone can you read this? please tel me... DJT please....

>>78826890
Absolutely master the phonology before anything else (this is crucial) and then just inundate yourself with as much exposure to english as possible. Don't study grammar specifically: only look up things you don't understand as you encounter them. Once you're comfortable reading, read a lot.

>>78826890
Also: imitate as much as possible and always trust a native speaker's instincts on something above your own. If a native speaker says something that seems ungrammatical to your non-native instincts, nine times out of ten, it'll be something perfectly correct that you just haven't been exposed to. This includes slang: contrary to what textbooks might say, English slang is quite logical and quite consistent and if you don't at least understand it you'll sound like a robot.
Good luck.

>>78826890
you could try to watch english movies with english subtitles

Hello it's me Saitama man. What are you guys up to nowadays? Haven't been here in months. Is Gochiusa still relevant?

>>78827077
>Don't study grammar specifically
Why? Standard Japanese study is learn English grammar at the first. but i guess it is mistake.

>phonology
how do i train it? the point is i must master phonetic symbol?

>book
what's do you recommend? please tell me.

>>78827410
yes i Watching an Amazon Pri

What's the best way of learning Japanese names?

I'm familiar with common names but when reading them in kanji I can't work them out.

Is there a standard to all of it or am I gonna have to remember the different readings until they make sense?

>>78827862
if you can read kanji, it is helpful for you.

http://www.ndl.go.jp/portrait/contents/list.html
http://www.namaejiten.com/

>>78826890
Read, read, read. You can't say what you don't already know, so keep reading and learn vocabulary and grammar as you read.

If you really must write / speak:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZpDVK63bbg

>>78827700
>Why? Standard Japanese study is learn English grammar at the first. but i guess it is mistake.
Kids don't study grammar while acquiring their first language. Grammar emerges from usage, not the other way around.
The reason why people teach this way (all around the world, not just in Japan) is because it's easier both to teach and test. If all you teach is grammar and some vocabulary, you can certainly produce a class full of high-scorers on English-exams. One thing that this won't produce, though, is actual English-speakers.
>how do i train it? the point is i must master phonetic symbol?
Learning the phonetic alphabet is a good first step. The bigger issue, though, is that Japanese has much simpler phonology than English. As a result, as a baby, your brain never learned to recognize clusters of multiple consonants and the distinction between /r/ and /l/, /s/ and /θ/, /z/ and /ð/—ie, right now, you can't even hear English. If you can't even hear a language properly, how can you expect to learn it?
The good news is that this can easily be remedied. Think of it like music: complex pieces are full of chords that people untrained in music can hear but not fully recognize, since the human brain can only distinguish around three individual tones at a time without training. People train themselves to be able to hear these things perfectly all the time. So it's perfectly possible to learn a more complex phonological system than exists in your native language.
Learn to ~read~ the phonetic alphabet, understand EXACTLY what sounds it denotes, and practice pronouncing difficult english words without even thinking about what they mean. Think of the sounds as abstract motions in your mouth rather than sounds, even—this isn't far from the truth. The point is to get your tongue and brain used to movements that they didn't learn as a baby. You can easily manage this in three weeks or less. See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_phonology

>>78827700
>what's do you recommend? please tell me.
Anything. The internet is a great resource; children's books are great resources. The Little Prince is excellent. Once you get to a good enough reading level to worry about "good taste" or whatever, you'll know what to read next anyway.

>>78828136
if i read many books, i don't understand the meaning of English words.
maybe all words must be examined.

>>78828273
>>78828273
hmm i see. anyway i train English phonetic alphabets.
how to use tongue and mouth is different in English and Japanese. maybe simple training necessary.
>three weeks
i trust you ;)

>The Little Princ
looks good. thank you! thank you !!!!

>>78828423
Remember: the international phonetic alphabet is only useful because it describes exactly what is happening in the mouth, and it makes it clear that you cannot substitute the phonological rules of your native language for the rules of another. If you don't thoroughly understand this, the phonetic alphabet is useless.

バンプ

Learn.

>>78822355
ぜったいに頑張る、ありがとうネコちゃん

気温
温度

Literally what's the difference?

>>78834529
atmospheric temperature vs (body-, room- etc) temperature I think

>>78834529
>気温
Air heat - atmospheric temperature
>温度
Heat degree - temperature in general

>>78834668
>>78834790
so something like
今日、メキシコに気温は22°C

私の体の温度は35°C

>>78835011
In your second example 体温 is a nifty substitute

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Any good modern websites for finding Japanese penpals?

Most of the ones I stumble across have that unreliable late 90s website look.

>>78836056
hellotalk for mobiles

I understand correctly?
人形がしばらく表に出せね からな
Because can't show up doll for a while
出せね=senai?

>>78828423

If you want a simple series of books to read, staples of childhood reading are: "the box car children," and "the hardy boys." At least, these are what I read when I was learning my language as a young lad.

heh <- generic acknowledgement
hehe <- please fuck my anus
heheh <- I'm a little excited
hehehe <- I'm too excited, stay away from me
heheheh <- I don't know how communication works

>>78836306
because the doll can't be shown for a while

ded

Good Morning DJT

>>78828736
>>78836461
okay.. thank you.
i will try it. anyway i'do train phonetic three week.
i dont know many english word meaning. so how i do read book? just only read many books?

>>78845646

Just look em up if you don't know them.

>>78845646
Read books or comics or text-heavy games, that are very interesting, that you understand even if you don't know a lot of the words.

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Is this text correct?

オオカミは犬の最も近い親戚で、一緒に生きてからこそ階層構造を持っているのです。 アルファオオカミは常に最初に食べてしかもリーダーので前に歩く。 アルファオオカミの背後には,襲わせるやアルファオオカミの子どを世話せるなど一般的のオオカミたちです。このタイプのオオカミの背後には、古くて弱いタイプのオオカミがいます。でも、一番弱いオオカミが最後のです。オオカミたちは狩りを失った際に激しげになって最後のオオカミに痛めさせている。暴挙あとでオオカミたちがほっとにします。 オオカミたちが空腹で食べ物がない時には、最後のオオカミの肉を食べる。最後のオオカミは、誰もと繁殖していないしいつも一人です。最後のオオカミはグループのもう虐待を扱うことができないとき逃げる。最後さんはたいてい逃げてつつに死ぬが,逃亡ができるとたぶん親切な人と遭遇くられて、そして生活の終わりまでにコンパニオンができる。このオオカミはその男のためにはたらかれるだろうですけどあくまでも食物と良い仲間を失うことはない。オオカミはたいてい人間が好きではない。 でも最後のオオカミは特に好きです。このオオカミは "孤独な狼 "として最もよく知られててポルトガル語で、「O Lobo Solitário」と言うの。

hey DJT, what's your favorite Japanese onomatopoeia?

Mine is ほんわか

>>78827225
This reasoning is why idiots now think it's fine to say "there's" in reference to a pluralized noun.
>there's dogs over there
>there is dogs over there
That shit grates my fucking ears every time. Also your use of colons is atrocious.

>>78850307
it actually is 100% completely fine to say "there's" there, in fact most varieties of spoken english outright fucking refuse to use "there're" period

>>78850411
Because there're isn't a fucking contraction. You say "there are" you lazy piece of shit.
There's == there is. They're treated exactly the same grammatically. You don't get to break grammar just because you're already too lazy to say two separate words.
When you're talking about more than one thing you use "are" not "is."

>>78850500
i wish all prescriptivist's would die

>>78850500
congratulations, you're objectively wrong and the reason you believe the things you do are because of a toxic upbringing

>>78850500
There's no such thing as grammar, actually. The grammar you learned in school is a feeble shadow of the unspeakable horrors lining the human linguistic faculty. You literally don't know anything.

>>78850500
The committee of linguists are taking your complaints very seriously. I'm sure the committee of linguists is most interested in your remarks.

>>78850500
In "there's X", the "is" is agreeing with "there", not with "X". By using a contraction, it stops being copula inversion where "there" is the descriptor. "There" becomes the subject. That place is a lot of space.

>>78850534
>>78850539
>>78850545
>>78850573
>>78850589
Well shit. I is just going to go ahead and concede on my point because I is so obviously in the wrong. There is plenty of opportunities to use the word "is" and I is seeing that now. I is only sad that I is not see this earlier.

>>78850635
>By using a contraction

>>78850641
Well shit. I's just going to go ahead and concede on my point because I's so obviously in the wrong. There's plenty of opportunities to use the word "is" and I's seeing that now. I's only sad that I's not see this earlier.
I's ah sorry massah.

>>78850666
There you go. That's something people might actually say somewhere.

>>78850670
Don't you mean
>That's some things people might actually say
:)))

>>78850718
If you actually wanted to correct it you would have to correct it to "That's something that, somewhere, might be said by people" or something, which is disgusting.

This board would be so much better if Americans weren't able to post.

>>78827077
>>78827225
>>78827410
>>78828136
I want to expand on these and ask, how can I help the Japanese I know practice their English best? They help me a lot and I feel I can't help them as much. I find it hard to explain why things are the way they are in English.

囚人の末裔に言われたくないな

Does anyone know where can I torrent raw manga? Or read it online. I wanna get better at my vocabulary since all we're using in class is みんなの日本語.

raw.senmanga constantly redirects me to porn

>google translate "racist"
>get "人種差別主義者"
holy fuck

>>78850968
anki is my favorite mangas

>>78850968
if you like irc you can use #madokami on rizon

>>78850979
>>78851018
I was looking for some raw naruto scans since it's the only manga series I've ever finished. I heard it's good to re-read mangas in japanese.

Also, I've tried using HelloTalk on mobile but no nips answer me. Any jap fella got an advice for a fellow beaner who's been studying japanese for 6 months?

>>78851067
Seriously just do anki or even better read the guide.

Reading manga is okay but kind a waste of time if you haven't even finished a beginner textbook

Hellotalk is useless until you can actually have conversations (not text conversations, but actual conversations) in Japanese, at which point you can try to find people to do phone calls with. But it's pretty favored to the Japanese (more people learning Japanese than Japanese learning English) and probably even harder if you are not a native speaker of English or if your flag isn't america/UK/australia.

It's okay for finding qts to show you around when you visit a city though I guess, but it still takes some work. Your success goes up a lot if you post interesting moments and such, or use other people's moments to start conversations. And if you actually speak Japanese.

anyone going after N1?

昭南島出ていけ

米英鬼畜は何か言いましたか?

>>78850956
Pay attention during elementary school, instead of absorbing all your linguistic knowledge from real life experience and Internet.

>>78820522
What is the grammar function of 「とこう」 here? Is it とく, like ておく, as in "done for the future?"

>>78852524
yes

What does it mean?
あんな小銭稼ぎ用が済めばどうでもいい
Previously sentence - >>78836306

>>78852614
In that case, why "give up for the future"? Is there some future benefit to quitting? Or is it just kind of a meaningless bit that sometimes gets attached to things?

>>78852746
I don't care (どうでもいい) about a little job like that (あんな小銭稼ぎ) so long as we can finish our errand (用が済めば)
Maybe

>>78852898
The benefit is that you will save a lot of time.

>>78852973
But I will waste the thousand or so hours I've already spent, so I'll stick with it

>>78852898
>meaningless bit
It kind of has a nuance of "hurry up."
Or at least sometimes people will use it to add force.

In an anime i was watching recently a young fellow that never uses 敬語 once said 任せておけよ
Hes implying that you shouldn't try whatsoever because he has it covered.

>>78852990
I see, thanks.

What level of grammar does Tae Kim cover? Up to N4?

>>78853784
It covers sprinkles of grammar from N5 to N2, with almost no N2 coverage and almost complete N5 coverage. Its grammar level is probably the overwhelming majority of N5 and N4 points plus a few N3 ones and a small handful of N2 and N1 ones.

If I take a JLPT level too high for me and fail embarrassingly do the results get shared with anyone but me?

>>78854483
No. You get the result mailed to you and you can view them on your online account.

>>78854483
They post the test scores with the test takers photo id on a bulletin board at train stations so cute Japanese girls can laugh at the dumb gaijins.

>>78854483
>>78854537
Also they find your <local equivalent of social security number> and if you're in the lowest 1% of failures they publish that along with everything they figure out amount your daily life, to make it easy for people to impersonate you. They do this so that someone impersonates you and takes the test and passes, of course, to improve their repass rates.

>>78854537
>>78854551
wtf i hate japan now

俺は日本

我カ名ハ日ノ本

>>78854537
>spreading bullshit
That's what Penis Inspection Day is for.

こウかキかタがスき

彼女って、どうやって作るの?

>時間が経てばたつほど
>"The more time he spent, the more..."
Is "verbばverbほど" - a common grammar structure?
I couldn't find it in DoJG
Can it be used with other verbs

>>78848495
普通に読めるぞ

>>78858043
>Is "verbばverbほど" - a common grammar structure?
>Can it be used with other verbs
yes

>>78858043
>I couldn't find it in DoJG
https://djtarchive.neocities.org/bunpou/full_day.html#%E3%8A%A5~%E3%81%B0~%E3%81%BB%E3%81%A9

>>78858043
>Is "verbばverbほど" - a common grammar structure?
Yes, it's very common. It can be used with just about any verb.
食べれば食べるほど
勉強すればするほど
など

>>78858114
>>78858113
>>78858112
Thank you all.

>"The more..., the more..."
I hate this grammar. is there another way to say the same meaning?

>>78857584
あなた、日本、違う!
私、日本!

>>78854537
>>78854551
kek, good posts lads

>>78857564
こんにちは、日本。俺はアメリカ。

>>78858259
The more English you speak, the less it'll grate!

>>78850956
Have you learned another language to fluency before? Deep knowledge of the process is the best way to help others, I find. Remember that English is the first second language that most people learn worldwide, and a good portion of the problems that English learners run into are simply the result of unfamiliarity with the L2+ acquisition process. After that, the most important thing is always being able to explain why something sounds wrong to you in clear terms.

アイ エム ビカム ジャパン
デストローヤ オブ ワールズ

>jlpt results are out
how'd it go? any new n1 graduates among us?

>>78858043
英語の"the 比較級, the 比較級"の比例構文が変わっているだけ。
いつも、思うのだが、このロシア旗は、異なる言語体系でも意味的・文法的一対一対応が成立すると思っているのだろうか?
すればする程=サ変動詞「する」仮定形+接続詞「ぱ」+「する」連体形+形式名詞「程」

形式名詞は、英語で言えば関係詞、連体形+形式名詞で節をつくる
で、「すればする程」は、直訳すれば
at the degree which you do if you do more
ということで、これが
the more, the more
の意味と、たまたま一致したに過ぎない。

>>78834529
>>78835011
>>78835313
>>78834790
think of the first kanji as modifying the second and you can see the differences

体温 - (body) modifying (heat) = body temperature
気温 - (atmosphere) modifying (heat) = atmospheric temperature
温度 - (heat) modifying (degree) = the temperature degree of something

there seems to be a pattern where the second kanji in a word often serves as the focal concept whereas the first kanji is simply providing the specific context. i suppose this isn't always true but it often helps in memorizing vocabulary

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>>78858050

ありがとうございます。

I made some fixes and added the english version.

___________________________

English Version

The wolf is the closest relative of the dogs. They live together and have a hierarchy system. The alpha-wolf is always the first to eat, he is the leader and he always walks ahead. Behind the alpha-wolf are the common wolves who hunt and care for the alpha-wolf's children. Behind this type of wolves ware the old and weak wolves. But The last wolf is the weakest of the group. When the wolfpack is stressed by having lost a hunt, they beat and hurt the last wolf. When the wolfpack is hungry and there is nothing to eat, they eat the flesh of the last wolf. This wolf does not breed with anyone and he is always alone. When he can not handle the bad treatment of the group, he runs away. Most of time he die while runs away, but sometimes he finds a human who cares for him and they become friends forever. This wolf will be a servant of the man, but he will never lack food and good company. Wolves generally do not like humans. But this wolf in particular likes it. He is called the Lonely Wolf.
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>>78866429

Japanese Version

オオカミは犬の最も近い親戚ですが、明らかに違います。一緒に生きてからこそオオカミたちが階層構造を持っているのです。 アルファオオカミは常に最初に食べてしかもリーダーので前に歩く。 アルファオオカミの背後には,襲わせるやアルファオオカミの子共を世話させるなど一般的のオオカミたちです。このタイプのオオカミの背後には、古くて弱いタイプのオオカミがいる。でも、一番弱いオオカミが最後のです。オオカミたちは狩りを失った際に激しいになって最後のオオカミに痛めさせている。暴挙あとでオオカミたちがほっとになった。 オオカミたちが空腹で食べ物がない時には、最後のオオカミの肉を食べる。最後のオオカミは、誰もと繁殖していないしいつも一人です。最後のオオカミはグループのもう虐待を扱うことができないとき逃げる。最後はたいてい逃げてつつに死ぬが,逃亡ができるとたぶん親切な人と出会われて、そして生活の終わりまでにコンパニオンができる。このオオカミはその男のために働かせるだろうですけどあくまでも食物と良い仲間を失うことはない。オオカミはたいてい人間が好きではない。でも最後のオオカミは特に好きです。このオオカミは "孤独な狼 "として最もよく知られる。

_________

I hope it's at least 90% correct. I'll introduce this to my class today.

>>78850500
I cringed

Is this sentence correct? how can it be improved?

最近、僕は人々の最悪のところを見る傾向がある。。。

>>78868746
What do you want to say?

>>78868746
>recently, I am the people's worst place to see at the opposite side

Rate my shit translation. Didn't use google or anything

>>78872503
2bh that's the most google translateish sentence I've seen in a while
it's more like "lately I have the tendency to see the worst (parts) in people"

I studied Japanese for a while like 5 years ago but couldn't continue due to life stuff.
I finally got back to school back in February and got pretty decent results, remembered most of what I lost plus I still had a lot of vocabulary I hadnt forgotten.
There's a huge gap between my vocab and kanji, however. I've been trying some pre-made anki decks (one that's vocabulary with the kanji, furigana disabled and another that's just kanji) with mixed results. How do you guys study kanji?

I'm doing N4 this December.

>>78873652
Just do Core deck

>fucking Harvey came and made me miss days of Anki

I'LL NEVER LEARN JAPANESE NOW GOD DAMN IT

馬鹿チョンカメラ

一回だけ精一杯ぶん殴ってほしい

if you had to learn another languages besides japanese, what would you choose?

>>78876421
Russian

Is the Japanese here real?

>>78876524
Nothing is real, we are living in a simulation.

>>78876462
I was thinking about this too, but they don't have any media

教えてよ
なぜ人を殺してはいけないのかって

>>78876421
Classical Chinese

>>78876421
Whichever has the best porn

>>78872503
Pretty awful 2bh

>>78876421
I guess I'd go with Chinese. As much as I dread kanji reps, I still find them really neat. I think of it like learning a Lego language, where you can take all these little building blocks and stick them together to make something really neat.

>>78876421
Welsh.

>>78876421
Chinese (and I'm planning on starting it soon)

>>78872090
>>78873131
yeah, something along those lines. Id like to say "Lately, i have the tendency to only think the worst (parts) in people" or something like that

>>78876421
korean, they put out some grindy number treadmills that are fun for a bit, have no sjw taint and can actually animate properly

>>78882507
>no sjw taint

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>>78882541
would this get made in your country, be honest now my dude

>>78882671
yes actually it would

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Can anyone out there post a link to the Yookoso 3rd edition workbook. There is at least one torrent of it on the web, but it seems to be incomplete.

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こんばんわ。
Is the only difference between「お聞きしたい」and「聞きたい」that the former is humble (or honorific, I got mixed answers on Google)?

>>78883835
>聞く
normal verb
>聞き
verb in -masu form (this is a noun now)
>お聞き
honorific お to respect the listener.
the word has already been conjugated to a noun so it needs a second verb する
>お聞きしたい

>>78884754
Yeah, I get all that, but what effect does it have?

>>78884784
being polite to someone.
usually used towards customers or people of higher status

>>78884825
>being polite to someone.
I know お does that but what is the purpose for using the 連用形 + する? Is it because 「お聞きたい」is ungrammatical?

>>78884940
read this again >>78884754
i told you the answer

>the word has already been conjugated to a noun so it needs a second verb する
yes. you cannot conjugate it twice that would be ungrammatical

>>78884940
the お attaches to nouns if you didnt catch that

>>78884940
The humble お・・・する form of 聞く is お聞きする. If you want to conjugate お聞きする into the 連用形+たい it becomes お聞きしたい.

聞きたいんですが ← normal 敬語
お聞きしたいんですが ← 謙譲語

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>>78884987
I don't think I'm getting my confusion across correctly
>>78885019
>>78885070
There we go, that's what I was looking for. I hadn't realized you couldn't stick it in front of a verb but now that I think about it I've never seen it in front of a verb so it makes sense now.
Thank you all.

>>78876421
i learned chinese
more qts, less weebs to compete with

>>78879556
fortunately kanji reps are easier in chinese than in japanese since no ateji or other bullshit

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>>78882690
信じがたいよ

>>78850968
Nyaa is a great place for raw manga

Are classes worth it or should I just do self-study?

>>78885070
>normal 敬語
丁寧語

>>78887211
It probably depends on how much you spend on them and what time they take up. If you can get into higher level classes through self study it might be worth it for the conversation exposure, but you could also get a tutor to the same effect and get more individualized instruction.

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>>78887513

>use J>J dictionary
>have to use riki with its english dictionary on all the words

is this pointless or should i stick with it

>>78887669
Sounds pretty pointless my man

>>78887669
You'll eventually need to switch at some point if you want to actually grasp the nuance of things. I don't see any harm in at least persevering. If not, at least use 研究社 instead of EPWING. JDICT is awful and has a lot of misleading, often wrong, definitions.

>>78888498
>You'll eventually need to switch at some point if you want to actually grasp the nuance of things
Not really. Most Japanese dictionaries have the same sort of circular and endlessly referential "definitions" which most 和英 dictionaries have. It is good for not having to break from Japanese into English while reading, but the idea that simply being J-J provides better nuance and definition is bullshit. Nuance comes from usage, not prescription. Don't make the mistake in thinking dictionaries define language, because they don't.

>JDICT is awful and has a lot of misleading, often wrong, definitions.
Such as?

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>>78888498
>at least use 研究社 instead of EPWING

>>78889104
国語辞典 absolutely do provide better nuance and definition than JDICT because they actually *explain* words instead of throwing a (often incomplete) list of approximate English equivalents at you.

癇癪
>(n) passion; temper; irritability
vs
>ちょっとのことにもすぐ怒る性質。怒りっぽいこと。また,その怒り。「―を起こす」

高鳴る
>(v5r,vi) to throb; to beat fast
vs
>(1)音が高く大きく響きわたる。
>(2)希望や期待などのために,興奮して胸がどきどきする。「期待に胸が―・る」

Those are both common words, too.

>stopped mining at 10k words
>still can't read anything without looking up words every 10 seconds
I really should start mining again...

>>78889104
you should probably look at better dictionaries if you think that. J-E inevitably fails as it uses English words that simply try to capture the actual meaning. >>78889448 gives a good example here. and no shit you learn from reading, dictionaries are simply supplementary material to help you better understand what a word is, how it's used, and why it's used that way.
>>78889133
>研究社 WITH EPWING
間違いです
ごめんね

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>>78889490
dont, stop me noooooow

>>78889686
I only have to look things up that often when reading novels and stuff.
If it's every day conversation then basically no problems

good luck anon

You fucking weebs will never get decent at this language. Give it up.

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>>78889920
I'm almost as good as you are at the Olympics

>>78889920
>weebs
it seems you don't even know english if you're making up words

>>78889920
Even if they (we) don't, so what? Fun matters.

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Could someone translate this? I don't get the ほむラー and まどラー

I've gotten so far with reading and have almost 10k mature cards in anki, but I still struggle with listening.
Anything where people talk anything close to naturally is really hard for me to follow. I have had good luck with しゃべくり007 as for some reason I don't really get as lost with it but when I go to watch anything else it's horrible.

What do

>>78891722
Listen more.

>>78891722
Have you tried マツコの知らない世界? The guests usually speak fairly slowly and they often introduce some interesting things.

What does mean つこでないか?
この間の蛇つこでないか

>>78893130
You sure it's not 蛇っこ?
It could be a diminutive suffix or meaning "the snake-like one".

>this thread was created 3 days ago
>people keep bumping the thread no one actually participates in
Why are all Japanese learners suffering from serious autism?

>>78893231
>蛇っこ
Yes, that is diminutive suffix.

Good evening DJT.

>>78893253
74 different IPs, I think you're wrong. 75 with me!

>>78887669
>>78888498
>>78889104
>>78889448
Jisho is all I need! I wouldn't abandon a friend.

今日は暑すぎる

>>78894321
>74 different IPs
this is exactly what I was talking about though. they don't come here to talk, but just to bump the thread.

>>78894614
何度なん?

>>78893253
>>78894675
it's better to bump the existing thread instead of constantly creating new ones and needlessly speeding up the catalog

>>78894903
if you create a new thread after the first one dies it doesn't really speed it up, not that i give a shit either way

>>78894777
三十ぐらい度そうですけど何も出来ないほど熱いだ。ナイス・ナンバー・バイ・ディ・ウェイ

>>78894989
I think he means to prevent needlessly killing threads by constantly creating new ones

Neither does people posting like usual and bumping the thread

>>78895328
>>78894989

>>78895308
>I think he means to prevent needlessly killing threads by constantly creating new ones

Yeah but between bumping a thread that would otherwise die, and remaking a thread that already died, the latter is the one that allows more other threads to live longer. Only making a new thread while an old thread is already up would kill more threads.

>>78895328
Obviously posting like normal is fine. If you're posting just to bump the thread, with no content, then it's not a big deal but it's not like you're saving other threads from being bumped off by doing it.

>惚気けてきた
can someone explain this?
のろけ→惚気
のろける→惚気る
のろけける→惚気ける?
can't find 惚気ける in dictionaries, or 惚気く but it showed up in the manga I'm reading, and has many results on twitter. I really don't understand what exactly the ける or く part of this apparent verb is. is this some sort of auxiliary/helper verb I'm not getting here?

>>78895539
>can't find 惚気ける in dictionaries
try again m8

>>78895570
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/srch/all/惚気ける/m0u/
http://www.weblio.jp/content/%E6%83%9A%E6%B0%97%E3%81%91%E3%82%8B
https://dic.yahoo.co.jp/search/?p=惚気ける&fr=dic&stype=full&ei=UTF-8

want to help, because these are showing nothing

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can someone please translate this? I know how to turn the AC off and on but I can't figure out how to put it on a sleep setting

not that it fucking matters because a goddamn chicken wakes me up at 7 every morning

>>78895661
It's usually written as 惚気る but putting 惚気ける into either jisho or just google gives you the answer

>>78895911
and by usually i mean properly since 気 is the け part

>>78895768
Sleep setting is the おやすみ on the bottom right.

>>78895911
it's annoying when natives do that but at least it wasn't something entirely unexpected

>>78895768
from left to right/top to bottom
air-conditioning
heating
~dehumidification mode~ or something
automatic
"Eco Navi"
"Nanoe"
big button in the middle = temperature
powerful
sleep/rest
stop

>>78895768
I had the exact same remote when I went to Tokyo eariler this year. I just used the up and down arrows to adjust temperature.
where are you in Japan?

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>>78896326
Thank you!

>>78896405
I'm not even in Japan, I'm in Ho Chi Minh City!

>>78896459
Ah fuck me. my mistake then. I assumed you were in Japan because you were using something with Japanese controls. It's weird for me to not have almost everything translated into English.

>>78896427
:o

>>78894675
Strange people indeed.

Anyone online? I've got a couple questions.

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>>78901817
read more
read the guide
you can't learn japanese
example sentence in pic related


this should cover it

>>78901817
Just post it.

I'm trying to develop a better Japanese r sound. Am native English speaker.
So far I've been saying "la da" like I'm saying "la di da" and then immediately saying "ra" and I think that makes a pretty good sound. I just need to practice the muscle memory so I don't need the "la da" positioning beforehand.
Any tips?

If I want to move onto a 10k deck, how would I go about moving over the progress from my 6k deck?

Did I shoot myself in the foot?

>>78905351
You'll shoot yourself in the foot if you do Core10K instead of mining.

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I can read 花火の時タバコ吸うと, but can you help me decipher the last word?

>>78906259
爆発

>>78906259
爆発

>>78906304
>>78906305
thanks

>>78905657
Is this really true? Can someone other than カナダちゃん give some input?

>>78906831
I'm a different Canadian but I agree with what he said, if you didn't start off with Core10k, just mine after being done with Core6k

>>78876421
Chinese. Russian also sounds pretty badass.

>>78850968
For anything japan nyaa is the way to go.

カナダという概念が存在しない世界

>>78907220
sounds good

>>78907220
Your country is going to shit way faster than Canada is.

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>>78907422

Learn the following cyrillic:
>бългapcки
>Taйpик
>бeлapycкi
>Қaзaқ тiлiндe
>Кыpгызcтaндык
>Maкeдoнcки
>Moнгoл
>Cpпcки
>Taйкo
>Укpaїнcькa

>>78907772
Зaчeм?
Why?

>>78907422
トルードーはイスラム教徒と住宅バブル崩壊を招き
トランプ氏は偉大なアメリカを再生
アメリカ合衆国万歳
カナダくったばれ

>>78907939
Similar cyrillic

>>78907952
敵を殺せば敵の勝だよね

>>78908248
フェミニズムのない世界には住みたくなくなるでしょう?

>>78907952
トランプは馬鹿でロシアの意気地のない人形だ
検疫ボードに帰れ

>>78911109
お前な
何回ヨロッパを台無しにしたら満足すんの
終わりはいつ来るんだよ

>>78911109
>意気地のない人形だ
very good but プーチンの腰抜け操り人形だ would sound the closest to native Japanese

ちょっと! 寄り道してる場合
じゃない was omitted?

>>78905154
If you need more words to think about the sounds, think the tt in "battle", cattle, etc.

But yeah, as long as you're able to do a quick tap, you're good, no need to go full rolling R.

>>78905351
You can import Core10k and delete de first 6k, they are tagged separately.

>>78906831
I have done 10k and it's useful, but I obviously can't compare with mining because I didn't go that route. I think it does a decent job of teaching you diverse enough vocabulary and covering kanji you'd otherwise struggle to find in the wild, but from the end of around 8k up to 9k (if I recall it correctly) it will fall into a plateau where almost no new kanji are taught, and you'll see a crapton of recombinations of kanji you already know.

Also Core10k is not enough, you will have to mine afterwards, but if you find having Core more handy than doing your own cards, you will benefit from it.

>>78906831
I did core10k and no mining at all and both my figurative feet are still in tip top shape

Can someone send me a link where I can download novels in Japanese?
A batch or something? I'm looking for real novels not vn.
I've been looking for a while to no avail.

Trying to read some random shit, can someone fix my errors?

>「ち」に点々をつけたいんですが、キーボードのどのボタンを押せばいいのでしょうか?

I want to attatch a tenten to ち, but what buttons should If i want to do this

I'm a mostly confused by what ど means after keyboard and I'm confused by everything after 押せば, "if press probably good?"?

>>78916089
Not ど but どの means "which".
In this context -ばconditional +いい you can think about it like "should". What should I press?
どうすればいいんだ。What should I do?

>>78916089
でしょうか is like "I wonder", not "probably".

>>78916759
ありがとうございます!!

ネット上の私は本当の私です

>>78915440
you should be able to find something on Nyaa

>>78916954
Are you Lain?

>>78916954
意識は関係的の存在なので、人間には真実の自我がない

How do I know how far I am into Core6k?

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>>78915440
check the op if you haven't found the cornucopia of resources yet

>>78917501
you will never finish core 6k, give up now

>>78912319
Most likely, yes.

>>78917576
That's why I want to know how far I am.

>>78917533
Wow, thanks!
I already downloaded the DJT from Nyaa but I found some novels here I didn't have yet.

アリス:今日は試験だ。
ボブ:ジョンは?
アリス:ジョンは明日。 (As for John, the exam is tomorrow.)
>no mention of anything for John's involvement at all
This language is barbaric

>>78918955
give up now

>>78919123
Hell no

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いつまでグレてる テンあげし
What does mean テン in this sentence? Can anyone translate this?

>>78918955
Alice:Today is the exam.
Bob:Is John?
Alice:John is tomorrow.

>>78919767
That's the Tae Kim example.

>>78893130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3xdeRu51rI

It's a kind of nicknames.

>>78919909
それはキムタエです

やられる前に
やる

先手必勝

Is 「消えろ」 the informal way of saying leave?

If I wanted to get a script a for a doujin a translated quality checked, what would be the best way to go about that? I don't normally work with a group, is there some kind of paid online service that does this?

>>78920589
>is there some kind of paid online service that does this?
I'm not into scanalating at all but I do know that /a/ has scanalation threads now and again where you could probably find a proofreader.

>>78920504
yes it exactly means get out of here/my sight. 失せろ is also popular in manga/anime.

>>78920691
Translators never go to those threads. Just bad trolls from reddit that try to spread misinformation.

>>78920729
さっさと去ね

What's the equivalent of .......ka in English? I've heard it a few times in anime when people are finishing sentences (as in they trail off and then just say ka by itself)

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Will I ever learn the different between 借金, 資金
and 敷金?
Stay tuned!

>>78921108
So that's how it is... huh?

>>78921163
借金・・・ー
資金・・・+
敷金・・・middle

>>78921207
SHIT, 預金 just came up. I guess I'll take a specialized course in economics before trying Japanese.

借金=借りたお金
資金=資源になるお金
預金=お預かりになってらっしゃるお金

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Can someone tell me if what I wrote makes sense
1. これは桃
2. これも桃です

>>78923007
yes yes ベリー グッド

>>78923007
ペラペラですね、偉いぞ。

日本の大学で情報科学を学んでる日本人です。
学校の課題で4chanを少しかじりました。
素晴らしい掃き溜めですね。
さすが2chとふたばの遺伝子を受け継いだ匿名掲示板です。
お疲れ様ですw

「あたいのフェラテクが通じない」の翻訳はいったい何
"But my blowjobs are great/unsurpassed"?
"I didn't get to the blowjob"?

>>78923209
父のチンチン

>>78923733
also how would you translate "プライド傷つけられてそれどころじゃない泡姫"?
"Aki's pride hadn't been hurt too much" or "Aki's pride had been severely wounded

>>78923733
>>78924194
Perfect. You should start translating ero doujins

>>78924194
Aki whose pride was heart so she wasn't in the state of mind to address/handle previously mentioned thing

How do you translate 砕けろ? Break?

I've seen 俺の邪魔はするな multiple times now but not 俺を邪魔するな yet even though the latter yields about 700k more results on Google. Is the former using the contrastive は to sound more assertive than the latter? Like, "I don't give a fuck what you do just don't get in my way"

>>78926109
Context would be helpful, but yes, it's literally a command, telling something to break.

>>78919324
Bump

理とは 理に縋らねば生きて行けぬ者の為に あるのだ
What does this mean? I can get reason but nothing else

>>78927780
Reason (理) exists (ある) for the sake of (の為に) those (者) who cannot go on living without clinging to reason (理に縋らねば生きて行けぬ)

>>78927205
What? It's a name, Gretel.

>>78927780
Shit. Time to guess in the dark, stay with me:
Reason? It is because of/for the sake of a person who can't stop nagging (me?) for a reason.

Hope it leads somewhere even if it's completely wrong.

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>>78927828
>>78927822
Oh wow, I actually got it, the absolute dekiruman!

>>78894675
I don't think anybody would be that low.

>>78927780
>took me like 5 seconds to read 縋らねば
man not reading really takes its toll

Stay in your thread.

>>78893253
There's nothing left to ask that's not already covered in the guide. I only come here to laugh at you pathetic weeabs

tell me about sakubi

>>78932039
It's shit.

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>>78921163
日本に来れば直ぐに分かるよ
特にブラジル人は
借金 : debt
資金 : funds
敷金 : security deposit and key money
>>78923007
1: This is a peach.
2: This is a peach, too.
>>78923733
I cannot make you cum by my blowjobing
>>78924194
the prostitute's pride was injured, so she did not mind it.
泡姫=ソーブ嬢
Are you reading Japanese Porn?
Tell me its title

im doing my reps everyday but not reading nearly enough... is it time to find a new book or am i just doing something wrong?

>>78934551
the answer always is "read more"

>>78934551
reading is overrated, watch drama with japanese subtitles. The lower vocab level will have the added benefit of you doing less anki.

But really try to do at least an hour of non-anki study a day.

>>78934551
the fuck sort of question is that? if you aren't reading enough, read more than you are at present

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>>78926212
明確に
俺の邪魔はするな> 俺を邪魔するな
前者の邪魔は形容動詞語幹で、格助詞「の」は対象を示す
この「は」は対格の助詞「を」の強調として用いられている係助詞で、後のサ変動詞禁止形「するな」を強調しています。
>>78927780
The reason is for the people who cannot go on living without depending on the reason.

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>>78934750
>>78934778
>>78934780

maybe im over thinking it but i think try ill alternating days with dramas so i dont get bored.

please stop

>>78923763
ママのまんまん

>>78924194
"My blowjobs don't work..."
A whore whose pride was hurt too much to care for other things.

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>>78938102

lads, I'm a beginner and going off the anki deck to learn some vocabulary. Is this a good approach to start with, or should I know the grammar first? Also, is it helpful at all to know what the Kanji means indepdently? For example, 月曜日, my understanding of the Kanji is moon+?+day, but this doesn't mean moon day, it means Monday, so in this case the Kanji only partially helped. Thanks for the help lads

>>78942853
That's how it usually is. In my experience even combinations with "obvious" meaning are only obvious after the fact. That's not to say that dedicated study of kanji themselves won't make things easier for you. But even then, you'll pick that up as you go along if you study vocabulary rather than kanji. But I don't want to get into the RtK/Core debate.

>but this doesn't mean moon day, it means Monday
You know the etymology of Monday, right?

>>78927828
It's wordplay

>know the meaning, onyomi and kunyomi of all kanjis in a kanji compound
>guess the meaning and pronunciation to the best of my knowledge
>actual meaning diverges from my guess to the point of me screaming dekinai until my neighbors call the cops on me
EVERY.FUCKING.TIME

>>78944202
>>78927828
And グレ-テル = グレてる

一人の神様しか他に神はない、ムハンマドは神様の使徒です

>>78944426
アッラーフ・アックバル
神様最高
アメリカには死亡
イスラエルには死亡
ユダヤ人には呪いを
イスラムには勝利

>>78946469
>>78946469
>>78946469
>>78946469
>>78946469
新しいスレ

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Hey, I can't seem to read this Kanji, can anyone help out?

>>78946544
務める
つとめる

>>78946917
ありがとう

>>78943005
>etymology of Monday
It would probably make sense if I did. Also, I'm guessing Friday was historcially payday?

>>78947907
No, it's Friga Day, for the Romans Venus Day, and in Japanese the planet Venus is 金星 the Metal Star, and Friday is 金曜日 Metal Day (both named after the Chinese element)