Daily Japanese Thread - DJT # 1888

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>77892744
thought it read # 1488 for a sec

5人の専門家から成る審査員団が、誰が受賞するのかを決定する。

The whole sentence is easy to understand except for the naru without the ni particle. How does it work without a ni?

>>77897206
からなる in DoJG.

>>77897206
>bumping a dead thread for shit that would have been faster to google
Kill yourself.

>>77892744
good hentai
bump

>>77897206
に-なる : なる to
から-なる : なる from

行ってきます!

>>77902986
良っ寺者い!

Apparently Rikaisama's audio feature does not work anymore. Where else could I get audio for words? I should have set up the automatic card adding in the first place but now I need to find audio for about 2000 words.

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>>77905469
What the fuck, it was okay yesterday! Maybe it will come back, too soon to tell.

Go to Forvo.com and extract the audios from there. I use a Firefox extension called FlashGot, it detects media being played and adds it to the download options in the icon (right click it for the list).

For some reason Forvo now bugs the fuck out if I have uBlock enabled and refreshes after a play (so the audio go away from the download list), so I'm dealing with stupid adds in their page.

>>77905686
You can do this without an extension in Firefox or Chrome too. Push F12 -> Network and filter to Media (before playing the audio or video).

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>>77906315
Forgive my retardation, but now what?

>>77906615
Double click the URL and then save that (in Firefox you need to right click)

>>77906710
Thank you. Now to do this 2105 more times.

がんばってね

>>77906863
Good luck! Made a >500 deck like that in the span of a month. Do it in chewable chunks.

>>77905686
>>77906710
Why not log in real quick and download them normally through the down-arrow icon?

Also this shit is tedious, now an extra small chunk of my time is going to have to be spent downloading the audio and changing the tags on the cards. I'm being whiny, but FUG

I tried out Memrise mobile because I hate Anki but memrise seems to be more about general phrases than word words. Like attaching desu to words like 嬉しい. It feels unnecessary and poor practice. Also grammar being locked behind a paywall is jewish.

>>77909072
>changing the tags on the cards
Is this related to this task, or it's something else? You can always mass-tag stuff if it's only category labels.
Also be aware you can drag and drop audio and picture files into the card field and it will automatically create a copy in Anki's media folder and whatnot.

>>77910855
I'm talking about a new way to import cards with sounds. I'm trying to be as quick as possible. The quickest way that comes to mind is to import however many cards I do a session, and after the session I'll go to forvo, download the audio, and as I save each one, I'll save them in the "[hiragana] - [kanji].mp3" name, which is what the card is already set to. The only quicker way I can think of is if it would automatically be saved as "pronunciation_ja_[kanji].mp3" format, which is how the forvo files automatically save. So I take it I could modify the algorithm of the import and put a "pronunciation_ja_" there every time, but I don't know if I can or how to only get it to save as only "pronunciation_ja_[kanji].mp3", and not "pronunciation_ja_[hiragana] - [kanji]". If you know how to do something like that, or any other tips, I'd appreciate it.

>>77911876
My manually added cards have a field with the following:

[sound:戦慄_pronunciation_How_to_pronounce_戦慄_in_Japanese_ms_9478059_76_3895547.mp3]

And the Card template has this to play it:
{{Vocabulary-Audio}}

Apparently that's enough, doesn't require any standardized filename

>>77912895
By the way, this [sound:blablabla] is the result of me dragging and dropping the Mp3 in the card's field manually.
But the rest of the fields were filled beforehand, by importing an excel table. So you can create your cards with no audio and then go through them all adding audio via drag and drop.

「くじけちゃ」って何?
文脈『ミズゴロウさん・・・・・・くじけちゃだめです。』

Should I use RikaiCake or is the default dictionary better?

>>77913439
Don't get "discouraged"

>>77912895
>>77912951
Hmm, interesting. Both your method and what I'm doing.. it doesn't seem like there's a big time difference either way. If I'm following you right, I either would have to download the file and drag and drop them manually, or the way I'm doing, manually change the name of the file I download. Do you go through "browse" on anki, and click on each card, and drag and drop into the audio category from there?

>>77913950
Yes. I believe it's substantially faster than F2ing and typing out the tags on every mp3 file, but it's still a bit of a pain in the ass.

>>77914106
The main positive would be that the downloading and importation are done simultaneously: I change the name of the file I'm saving, so it's all done while looking up the words on forvo in my browser, after a session.

(what's the f2 hotkey? lol)

>>77913739
わかった、ありがとう

今日は私の金曜日です (*´∀｀*)

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>>77916028
今日は超暑い
汗をかいちゃった!
(￣Д￣;)

Bumping to piss off the Aussie who always complains about saving this particular thread from getting pruned.

I like to do a wheezy voice and say 助けてくれ! to pass the time

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これを口言葉でどう言えばいいですか?

>>77922815
??
何訊いてんのか分からん
ごめん

>>77922815
How do you say 「1~2週間」verbally?

>>77923039
いち に しゅうかん

>>77923067
思ったより簡単だ
ありがとう

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こんばんは!日本語を勉強します。。。難しい。。。
It's been one month since I started learning, and i'm super happy I did, learning a new language has been pretty fun, thanks to all of you guys who help out with questions and tips!

>>77923828
父のチンチン

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>>77923973

ぺったんぺったんつるぺったん

>itt: bunch of weebs thinking they can learn japanese

>>77925146
you're on the wrong board pal

Reminder that Tae Kim is garbage and you're going to have to spend a week unlearning misconceptions that you gain by reading it.

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>>77925161

>>77925178
Don't just take my word for it, take anon's: >>>/jp/17415655

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>>77925190
Leave it to the EOP to take every language lesson at face value and not be able to tell what is and what isn't useful knowledge.

>>77925190
You just know that this whole spiel was written by that sakabi-pushing cunt.

>>77925768
Yeah, Ctrl+F that crap over /jp/ and you'll get 18 instances. The retard has been shilling really, REALLY hard and looks like the janny gave up on smiting it.

What should I do with suspended cards?

>start to use goo whenever I'm feeling my way through a sentence rather than actually grasping it
>lights up A LOT of things that aren't really well described by the J -> E dictionary , especially in cases where EDICT tries to use English synonyms that aren't really synonyms to the Japanese word, i.e. なかなか
>also has cultural information that's missing from J -> E; as an example from what I've read today, 三行

There's definitely a point where you need to stop using EDICT and start using goo, isn't there?

>>77926522
Unsuspend them and tell Anki to do nothing whenever it marks something as a leech. If you want to, look them up calmly for a while first, so you can determine why they're giving you trouble.

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>>77927141
They're just standard words I keep getting wrong like 短い.
Maybe I'm just retarded

>>77919023
汗だく

>>77925768
It was written by me and I have no idea what sakabi us.

>>77927179
that's chinesee
>>77927944
https://sakubi.neocities.org/

>>77928017
Not going to bother reviewing it because it looks like nobody uses it, but it's CC0, which means it's automatically better than Imabi at least. Whether it's full of garbage like Tae Kim (which some people like >>77925247 apparently have stockholm syndrome after using) is another question, and one I can't answer because I won't review it, but anyone can just fix it and post the fixed version. That's how the guide in the OP stopped being awful, after all.

djt, what was the first thing you read?
any recommendations
other than よつばと?

>>77928091
what is CC0?

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>>77928091
Weird how there a lot of people giving opinions about this shitty guide lately, huh? It's almost as if their objective was to pretend to dislike/have no interest in a product just in order to justify namedropping and ongoing discussion!

"Second" or "third" anon to say that "at least it's CC0!", REALLY makes me think...

>>77928153
It's a globally recognized public domain dedication.
>>77928161
I don't know what you're talking about, is it really that weird? CC0 learning materials are a very big deal.

>>77928161
I just checked the archives and it looks like you do this a lot. I guess you're easy to upset?

>>77928179
Yes, anon, people come to DJT every day asking for a CC0 learning resource, it is the top 1 prioirty around here!

>>77928246
I do what? Point out your samefagging? Cause I'm not hiding anything. My comments are CC0, feel free to print them and wipe your ass with.

>>77928276
Are you depressed or something?

>>77928091
from what I gather the main point the author is trying to make is
don't stress over grammar and don't try to memorize the rules
read it to get the general idea how grammar in Japanese works and then move on and go about acquiring the language the natural way - by reading and listening
use it as a reference

>>77928295
no he's a paranoid schizophrenic, stop responding before he pretends to dox you

>>>/jp/17421927

>70 posts in 22 and a half hours
>like 10 of them are an autist arguing with his own proxy
maybe it's time to stop posting threads on /int/ guys [spoiler]except as containment to keep the /jp/ thread clean, of course[/spoiler]

>>77928356
>containment to keep the /jp/ thread clean
>/jp/
>clean
You've got to be kidding.

>>77897813
>>77892744
Sauce on that pic?

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>>77928356
Back to /jp/, you filthy shill. We don't need your shitty memeguide.

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>>77928303
>He's paranoid! No one is shilling anything!
Back to /jp/, samefagging sperg.

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>>77931680
>>77931728
I'm not saying you're wrong, i hate the samefagging shill too
but you sure invested a disturbing amount of time into this

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>>77932592
I'm fine, Bernd this picture might be useful in the future.

Besides, I haven't wasted nearly as much time as this dude has spent on writing his guide.
Hell, I haven't even wasted a fraction of the time he spent shilling.

Also I haven't tried learning Japanese from a dude who admittedly doesn't even speak Japanese, so I have a lot of time unwasted to spent with other superfluous things, such as saving everyone else's time.

Is there a way to use Kanji-Grid on multiple (or all) fields?

I have a mixed deck (varying field names and sometimes the words are broken down into 2 separate fields in 1 card), but I'd like to have a list of all the kanji in this deck.

sakumeme is based

try it

>>77933745
11 out of 10 people recommend it

>>77892744
Turn on Japanese subs
https://youtu.be/KFtgKAne_CA
and check out the other videos, they are in Japanese.

>>77931068
the author is meme50

>>77933437
Export deck Notes in Plain Text and upload somewhere

>>77934011
Why keep posting this youtube channel?

So with the sentence 時間があると家に来てください, apparently it doesn't work since you can't use と like that when expressing requests.
What's the reasoning behind that specific limitation? The grammar source didn't explain why and I have no idea where I would look that up

>>77934813
Look it up in DoJG.
>A subordinate conjunction which marks a condition that brings about an uncontrollable event or state.

>>77931068
メメ50 - 迷い筆

So I'm almost a year into this fucking shit and I would like some critique on what has become my "daily process".
basically
>started with Genki I (finished)
>been using this deck for a year just about everday https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1188123894
>started using this deck since June https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/942922371
>currently on Genki II chapter 19
>Using this for 30 minutes a day since around July: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mindtwisted.kanjistudy&hl=en

Please tell me why I am doing something terribly wrong

>>77937631
Are you learned?

>>77937631

Needs sakubi

>>77937631
You haven't started learning Japanese until you're reading native content. Start reading for at least an hour a day.

>>77938226
I'm nervous about this because I don't want to have to stop at every word that I don't know and learn it (overloading my brain), I feel that I must be doing something wrong when I'm reading this way.

>>77938376
>I don't want to have to stop at every word that I don't know and learn it
Look it up, save it somewhere and add it to an Anki deck which is set to feed a certain amount of new cards every day. There isn't much that can be done to bypass the fact that to read Japanese comfortably you have to know thousands and thousands of words. No other way around but head on.

胡麻ダレをすきです

俺は超人、お前らは糞の亜種ばかり

>>77939294
出て行けアドルフくん

おれは超人間だ!!
グイッ ガシャーン

>>77934813
that is a problem of a conjunction.
時間があるから家に来てください・・・◯
時間があるため家に来てください・・・×
時間があると家に来てください・・・×

時間がある。だから家に来てください
時間がある。そのため家に来てください
時間がある。すると家に来てください

「そのため」「すると」 express a time line, but an imperative sentence doesn't have a tence.

>>77939557
I believe the intended meaning was 時間があったら家に来てください.

時間があれば

>>77940753
i see
時間があるなら and so on

Is Sakubi really that bad? The intro seemed alright but I don't want to waste my time if its shit

>>77943994
It is pretty much shit, but it has the perk of being CC0 :^)

>>77943994
It is, the intro is a bunch of excuses and crapping on other guides' head.

Sakubump.

>>77931728
I'm not even american. I don't post on /int/ either. I guess staying anonymous was the right thing to do.

>>77948415
>I don't post on /int/ either.
This is /int/.

>>77949109
I guess he made an exception because of how fucking insane the anti-sakubi paranoia has got?

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>>77948415
I love you and I support Sakubi.

>>77949144
Go back to /jp/ sakubi moron

>>77949412
I'm not sakumemer.

I am Spartacus

お腹の脂肪を取りたい。
How the fuck does this imply "I want to lose weight"?

>>77949614
What happens when body fat is taken away from the stomach?

>>77949614
It says "I want to remove the fat on my stomach"

Is there an English translation of Hanahira so I can be sure I'm translating things correctly?

>>77949661
>>77949676
I knew I was being stupid, thanks.

>>77949728
Why shitpost?

What does セクシー担当 mean? I keep seeing it in advertisements.

>>77934703
>Export deck Notes in Plain Text and upload somewhere
You plan to rebuild the deck with a single field just for the purpose of counting?

>>77950505
What was being asked:
>I'd like to have a list of all the kanji in this deck.
Which is exactly what I was going to provide.

What does セリフ mean other than serif?

>>77950932
台詞

>>77950852
Sorted by JLPT grade for cross-referencing?

Teach me how to fish, I will not need this only once as I'm constantly adding cards.

>>77951371
Too late, and I'm off for the week. Fuck around with people willing to do something and you get nothing.

What does おにゅう mean? I can't find it on jisho

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>>77951428
It's not like your handout would serve me any purpose, I asked for a method, not a spoon.

How bad is it to learn Japanese and Chinese at the same time?

>>77951538
First result on Google. Basically "new" with お attached.

This made me look up the etymology of "brand new", which is "from brand (n.) + new. The notion is new as a glowing metal fresh from the forge."

>>77952177
Around 23.

>>77952177
Both are very time consuming so there's a 99% chance you'll burn out on one or both.

I am on chapter 4 of Genki. If I want to say a sentence like "I'll go to Kyoto at 2 on sunday" then it seems it should be 日曜日に三時に京都に行きます.
Is it bad to say 日曜日に三時に or can I put the time before/after the day to say 日曜日三時に/三時日曜日に? Or is that sentence correct to use に three times?
The book has used time and place examples
(at school on monday, etc), but so far has not use two time specifications at once, so I'm unsure.

>>77949948
Person in charge of being sexy/sexiness.

>>77951538
Probably "boobs". Context would help.

>>77953134
日曜日の3時に would be the most natural, I think.

>>77954683
Thanks. That's what I thought, but it is not a phrase we use in English. I thought it might mean something like "the sexiest person." English ads are always telling you how products will make you sexy.

>>77932592
there is no samefagging shill

reposting because the /jp/ thread is dying
trying to read a light novel, but I can't get it in any form where I can use yomichan on it to check/add to anki any kanji I'm not familiar with.
is there a good format I should use to view it in my browser? epub is being a shit.

>>77956055
for future reference the /jp/ thread isn't dying until it's one of the bottom three threads on page 10

>>77955429
>>77956055
>>77956616
Back to your containment thread, dumb Sakushitter.

>>77956971
what the fuck

>>77956971
United States of America, population: Sakumemer.

>>77944780
>>77945536
Should I just stick to tae kim then? I see people shit on it too even though its constantly recommended, maybe i should just get the dobjg and try to make sense of it from nothing

Wait, there are threads on /int/ now? What about /jp/ and /a/?

>>77957681
They're all shit. It doesn't fucking matter. What matters is that you finish your chosen turd so you can start reading native content.

>>77957681
I'd say read Tae Kim, and refer to DoJG(/HJGP) if you have trouble with anything.

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Is this sentence correct? Can I use と and や together to list multiple things?

「始める」と「始まる」や「閉める」と「閉まる」や「見つける」と「見つかる」が難しいです。

I'm trying to say, "Words like hajimeru and hajimaru, or shimeru and shimaru, or mitsukeru and mitsukaru are difficult."

plz, could someone toss me good materials (as sites, books, pdfs, dictionaries) to learn japanese?
I'd prefer physical books (in enlgish or portuguese).

>>77958369
Yes, as a matter of fact, the Daily Japanese Thread has you covered. Just read the guide in the OP.

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>>77958369
Tae Kim's Japanese Grammar Guide has a physical version on Amazon for pretty cheap. His guide is generally recommended here.

>>77958743
Please do not buy free material.

>>77958791
>>77958369
>I'd prefer physical books

>>77957681
This >>77958245
It's what has always been recommended here and nothing has surpassed the efficiency of it, even though it's not perfect.

>>77957736
It's always been on /int/ since we've been kicked out of /a/. The /jp/ one is a false one and is a shitty autistic offshoot of the real thing.

>>77892744
https://youtu.be/KFtgKAne_CA

>>77958251
Why not make what you're trying to say clearer?

「始める」と「始まる」のちがいはあんまりわからないです。

Your original sentence, while somewhat grammatically correct, makes it difficult to comprehend what you're trying to say.

If you go one step further, you could say

自動詞と他動詞のちがいはあんまりわからないです。

Where can I download Japanese e-books?

>>77962019
Yep.

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Someone give me a quick run down of when to use each of the conditionals.

>>77962019
Go create an account for Japanese Amazon.

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Does DJT speak their reps out loud?
You know how have to, even if you're commuting, or else you'll never develop that muscular memory, right?

無以讀,學之死也。
-瞌糯爇

>>77963061
阿漆黒過居此達中風漢字。略読無。

i want to learn english, how do?

>>77964671
Compelling content.

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>>77964671
ハンバーガーをもっととたべる

>>77964671
Watch lots and lots of English youtube.

>>77964671
>>77965637
Play lots and lots of English games.

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How exactly would I say "Japanese women makes my penis go dokidoki"

日本の女はちんちんをドキドキする

I keep putting it in google translate but kept getting weird results.

>>77965887
ちんぽを
ドキドキさせる

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>>77966015
Thanks, it's very important that I learn these things.

日本の女は私の陰茎をさせるドキドキ

ちんぽをドキドキさせる日本人の女はみんな人として準じない

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No context would help a native speaker to distinguish between spoken 豊饒 and 豊穣, would it?

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>ぷちぷち
oh look, another omnopoteia.... when does it ever end!?

>>77967561
when you realize all mimetic words mean the same thing actually you fool you simpleton

>>77967577
What?

ちんぽがドキドキするって相当だぞ
脈打つちんぽはかなり膨張している

>>77958251
correct

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Any ideas?
>>77967525

>>77967525
those are same meanings basically.

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>>77977505
But "fertility" is a quality, whereas "harvest" is a concrete thing.
It would be a shame to accidentally confuse them.

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>>77978063
http://www.nihonjiten.com/data/12746.html

umm
豊穣 is a situation.
豊饒 is a land.

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>>77978264

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>>77978264
Do you mean to say my dictionary is shit?

>>77978554
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fertile

Based on the Japanese definitions, both are sense 1 of fertile:
> producing or bearing many crops in great quantities

>>77979422
Why would they put those words in two different articles then?

>>77978407
it shows an abundant harvest.
a part of 五穀豊穣 of 四字熟語
>>77978554
no
a land of rich soil
やっぱり土地

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>縁

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>>77980297
Is もた (or もうた) derived from 齎す?

what's the difference between:

>ありがと。
and
>あいがとう。
which one is correct?

>>77981269
I think they are both just misspelled versions
it's ありがとう

>>77981269
This is meant to precise the way the (possibly metaphorical) speaker pronounces the word.
The same thing happens in English, and probably in Portuguese too.

>>77981269
both correct. all depends on context

I want a Japanese person or somebody extremely fluent in Japanese to tell me why they don't use Latin letters.

>>77988470
basically tons of words would become indistinguishable

>>77988585
why? in what ways? can you provide me with some obvious examples

>>77988829
for example the word こうしょう (koushou) is pretty common and can take tons of differents meaning depending on the kanji you write it with
just look for yourself

http://jisho.org/search/%E3%81%93%E3%81%86%E3%81%97%E3%82%87%E3%81%86

>>77988829
変える
帰る

>>77989216
So it's basically like "Hello" and if you add a particular character, it can mean "Goodbye"?

>>77988470
Why don't you use Chinese characters? If it sounds like a fucking stupid question, you now know how your question sounds like.

>>77989548
Because Chinese characters is inferior and for subhumans.

>>77989633
Fuck off you silly manchild.

>>77989454
every kanji basically has one or several possible meanings on its own, and most of the time there are several ways they can be read, so they give you ni, shou, ta etc....
so japanese words don't just consist of arbitrary sounds, but also of the way they are written.... you have to think of it as an underlying language structure, without it japanese would be mutilated, it's impossible to remove kanji without revising the complete language

>>77989727
That's not how you refute what I said. Gook letters is inferior because it requires you to put your eyes on the paper to read it. Especially on a digital screen.

>>77989781
Thanks, now I understand it better.

>>77990628
I know you're trolling, but the symbolic writing system allows for all sorts of interpretations and meanings in literature and poetry. It's quite beautiful and rewarding

>>77991628
Dumb cancerous exoticism.

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First month officially done. How am I doing boys? Any of my stats particularly fucked or is everything fine?

>>77993089
Your retention should be 80% desu

>>77993089
Not ideal but you'll get better with practice. Just keep going, maybe look into radicals if you're confusing similar characters or want to make mnemonics.

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Why does し sound like "sh" sometimes instead of "shi"

sh:
初めまして
明日
食べました

shi:
閉める
知らない
白い
新しい

>Japanese literature constantly switching between past and present tense
何故

>>77995124
There's an explanation on that in one of the DoJG, unfortunately I cannot remember which.

>>77995335
Intermediate, page 35.

>>77994418
That all sounds like 'Si' to me.

>>77994418
It's devoiced in those words.

wanikani or RTK?

>>77997665

How is a 78% retention a little more than 2 months in?

>>77997665
KKLC

>>77980297
大切な単語は「緑茶」

>>78000162
Depends on how many new cards you're doing a day. You should probably be aiming to raise it though.

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What's the difference between 買ってきたんだ and 買ってきたんだった?

>>78001708
"I go/will go and buy _____" vs. "I went and bought _____"

だったis just the past tense of だ

>>78001800

買ってきた + んだ

vs

買ってきた + んだった

Lol

>>78001892
I know

it's the plain past tense form of のです, I can't really explain it any more basic than that if you don't know what のですis used for. It makes a sentence explanatory rather than just a plain statement.
compare "So, I'm going to buy you something nice" and "So, I bought you something nice."

>>78001947

The point of my previous statement was to show that they're both in the past tense, just the copula was the past tense in one case and non-past in the other.

>>78001708
It implies that he previously knew that he had bought something (obviously), but he's just now remembered. It's almost as if he's saying, "There was a me who bought something."

買ってきたんだ = I bought something.
買ってきたんだった = I bought something (and am just remembering that I did it).

>>78001999

Thanks, is anywhere I can read more about that grammar? I understand the nuance of it, just wish I had something concrete to reference cause I've seen that type of thing before

Anyone have a good 関西弁 anki deck?

>>78002068
Sorry, I'm not sure of any resources. It's something I just picked up through exposure.

>>78002162
Just read Lucifer and Biscuit Hammer

>>78001999
It helps to think about the literal meaning of のだ, and where that "explanatory tone" comes from. You're nominalizing the whole phrase and implying a subject that corresponds to the だ. That's why you could literally translate certain cases of のだ as: "The reason is that [nominalized phrase]," with "reason" as the omitted subject. Here, you might think of Jumbo's んだった as "What I forgot was [nominalized phrase]."

how do I read japanese

>>78001708
Is the とこ in 忘れるとこ a shortened version of ところ?

>>78003040

yeah

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私の時間のをほとんど家で過ごす

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>>78002068
Look in DOJG for starters.

Also, more precise nuances in Making Sense of Japanese Grammar by Shoko Hamano, see pic related.

>>78003234
時間のほとんどを

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Is there any difference in meaning/nuance between じゃない and ちがう in these types of situations?

>>78006034
Sakubump.

There is a character names O太郎, read as おやげ.
I couldn't find any reference to Tarou being read as Yage, does this make any sense or is it completely arbitrary?

>>78007071
Actually, scratch that, this was a stupid localization, it's Otarou. Fuck me.

What's the difference betwwen どう and 何?
When should I use one instead of the other?

>>78007652
They're literally completely unrelated.

>>78007652
どう: how
何: what

>>78007756
in anki examples they are both used as what.

>>78007875
どう: adverb
何: noun

どう can mean "what" in some situations but leans towards "what way" or "how" rather than "what" as in an object like 何.

>>78009323
uhm ok, thanks for the explanation.

Oh, RikaiSama has sound again. Praise the Lord.

yada

>大逝去
>大成功
C'mon, Japen.

>>78015764
>大逝去
That phrasing is not really used much in Japanese.
>大成功
Used in Japanese but sounds different to and used in very different contexts to 逝去.

Tell the faggots who live in the Discord channel to use this thread instead and it wouldn't need to be bumped with vapid shit all the time.

>癌張る
>頑張る
C'mon, Japen.

>>78016459
ur mom is vapid

Actually I niggered, meant 大盛況 x 大成功, just happened upon the former on some subs.

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抜け出していて
抜け出していて
悲しすぎる運命から
あなたは奈落の糸じゃない

>>78004158
As far as I know, じゃない simply negates the incorrect statement. ちがう implies a more severe wrongness.

i.e. He's wrong for calling her an idiot, not merely incorrect.

Why is 男 - male but 男性 also male?

>>78021862
Why is "man" male but "male" also male?

It's a common thing for people learning a new language to find synonyms annoying, but they exist in every language. When I accidentally noticed I already knew 3 different ways to say "smell" in Japanese without even trying is when I decided I was definitely making progress.

寝食するしかやる気がまったく出ない。

>>77962584
Yes. Out loud if I'm at home, and whispered (closer to just mouthing the words, actually) when I'm in public.

Is this conjugation correct?

"Anime made me want to learn Japanese."
「俺はアニメが日本語を学びたくなされた。」

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"Hey, let's see what his Goldlist Method is all about, if so many polyglots like it, it might be cool..."
https://huliganov.tv/goldlist-eu/
>this walltext
>misgivings ensue, time to skim
>4. The use of Omega 3 and Vitamin D is helpful.
Old people should be necked. Nobody wants to hear about your healing crystals, kusojiji. Just spill the beans already. Meme Kaufmann had the right idea, memorize a couple clickbait speeches and recite them at every single lecture for 30 years straight.

>>78024014
日本語の勉強のきっかけはアニメだった。

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>>78024101
I'm going to tell you about a method of learning that will

SUPERCHARGE
YOUR
RETENTION

but FIRST, I have to get something out of the way: you're probably thinking, "hey, I've done everything, Mr. Faggot: I've changed the language region of my OS, I've taped my eyelids open, I've stopped calling my parents, I anki rep upside down, and I STILL can't remember the kun-yomi of 鞭!"

Well, what if I were to tell you, there was a SECRET of memorization, of chingchong pingpong retention, that only the EXPERTS know AND THEY JUST AREN'T TELLING YOU?

And not only that, but this SECRET method can be learned, AND UTILIZED, in five minutes flat. Boom, that's it. Just FIVE of your minutes is all I need, and for you, a lifetime of knowledge gains. But first, to give you a little perspective on the MASSIVE change you're going to see implementing this method, let me if you a little story.. (click for more)

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>>78026497
See? Now that's engaging. Do you want my credit card number or something? Let's skip formalities and get to the .exes.

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>>78027003
>.exe
>PE
>not ELF
You're never going to learn Japanese at this rate.

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>>78027415
ゴメンネ、ハカサン、詳シクニ時間ガナイ。

how do you say "we got nuked twice" in weaboonese?

>>78028515
I read the と as a quote, and the って as another quote, but being the latter a "I've told you" termination.

I don't know whether I'm right or not, but see if this makes sense:
I told you, there's nothing to say other than "because I wanted to".

>>78029238
二回中爆の驚き。

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>>78024014日本語の使役には、使役の助動詞｢せる、させる｣を使います。
｢アニメが、私をして、日本語を学びたくさせた。｣
ただ、日本語の文書としては
｢アニメのせいで、日本語が学びたくなった。｣
が、自然です

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Shit, I got too immersed in the scenario.

>>78031105
Are you the brazil anon who recorded like 1 hour of himself typing these sentences? Or was it a live stream? I don't remember anymore but what site are you using in the picture?

>>78031244
that's duolingo, english for jap speakers

Is "janai" always said in informal situations?

When I say something is not free, my guts tell me to say ただではない, just because that で seems more important than your average "negative desu".

what do you guys do when you want to occupy yourself with japanese but are too tired to do anything productive?

>>78031377
I don't find myself in that situation often, but I would recommend using your time to sleep, and then studying when you wake up.

>>78031308
である -> ではない
です -> でない (not prototypical)
だ -> じゃない

School starts in two weeks. I'm going to make lots of Japanese friends this semester!

>>78031605
technically ではない and じゃない are the same thing
you could use じゃ instead of では in other sentences, but that's like old people speech

>>78031939
meant for >>78031308

>>78031939
technically である and だ are the same thing too

にてあり -> であり -> である
にてある -> だり -> だ

>あなたの家に何がありますか。
Do I have a home? / Does my home exist?

Is this what that sentence means?

Is it impossible to download vnr now? I want to use it for some psp games but I can't find it anywhere.

>>78032262
what is in your home?

>あなたの家に
in your home
you get the in with the に

>何が
what
が marks here that "what" is doing something

>ありますか
exist/is?

>>78021078

Thanks

How much harder is ふらいんぐうぃっち than はなひら?

>>78031939
>>78031605
>not prototypical
u wot m8

So yeah, I think what I was trying to say is "でない", as in X doesn't come "by free". The meaning is a bit different from saying "it's not free", where じゃない would be exactly what I want. Is the でない one valid too, or sounds jarring/unnatural?

How do I reset a leech and move it to the front of the new card queue?

>>78034172
Reset in what sense? Browse your deck and look for the leech tag, unsuspend them. Then just tell Anki to "tag only" when a leech is created from now on.

>>78034996
Yes but I want it to be the next card in the new card queue as well, anki pushes it to the back when I unleech it

>>78035034
Does it make a difference? Maybe you can suspend your whole deck, do these leeches and then unsuspend your deck.

What's a good Japanese ebook reader for Android that can look up words?

How do I change the system language of Windows 7 professional to Japanese?

Is there a way to figure out a transitive form of a verb if you have the intransitive version, like a conjugation or something, or do I just have to memorize them all?

>>78036548
I think there's an appendix in the DOBJG that describes that

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>constantly mixing up じょand しょ

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>>78037520
>Constantly forgetting if ちゃ is shorthand for ては or では

>>78037924
The missing dakuten is kind of a hint.

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>>78032262
What is there in your home?
>>78037520
処女に言うのは｢しょ｣(しよう)

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「陽子は身体だけが焦って暴れだしそうになるのを抑える。」

Does the -そう used here have an "about to" 直前 meaning, or a "it seems, it appears.." 判断 meaning?

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>>78040263
この｢そう｣は、｢そうになる｣の｢そう｣
いきそう: to 'almost'/ 'nearly cum

I just bought Splatoon 2 only to find out that although every other game supports Japanese you need to have bought the Japan version for specifically Splatoon.
I already opened the box, and there are like 5 other people selling it on craigs list. Should I sell it to some trade in place for 30$ or just go with English?

>>78040584
Oh, so is the そう in the form "連用形 + そうになる" always going to mean "almost/nearly [verb]"?

>>78036113
this is so pointless unless you want to "casually" impress some weeb girl or something

下げる

I'm doing RTK without access to the book at, solely by grinding the Anki deck.
However, I have ran into a problem with the Kanji腸: What's 昜 supposed to mean using Heisig's method?And what could be a possible story for this Kanji?

>>78043854
腸 is a 形声字 , 月 is a radical for alot of internal organ, it is written as 肉 in seal script which explains it's frequent occurrence in "organic" character , while 昜 is the sound part,
it carries the sound of 陽楊場 etc

>Heisig's method hurrrr
wtf is this arbitrary shit. A westerner's method for "explaining" chinese character through japanese language, where do you think you're going

if you want to learn 漢字
do it the chinese way
because it's the only true way

>>78036113
Most likely you need to start menu search "region and language", and change the format from English to Japanese. I have to agree though that this is an unnecessary hindrance for a newbie (and pretty useless for an advanced learner as well); you would do much better just to keep reading and absorbing content than racking your brain trying to figure out what odd compound word is being used in a command prompt at an inopportune moment.

>>78044314
Maybe when I'm out of the army
I don't have enough time for that kind of bullcrap right now. RTK's been working for me up to now, and I'm too far ahead in the numbers to suddenly "start studying 'em the """right way"""".

>>78044451
>chink crafted the characters with reasoning, categorized them, and refined teaching/learning method of the characters for millennia

>(((Memesig's method))) created by weeb, that relies on retarded """meme""" explanation, and give not much legit information in return.

i see, you have quite an exceptional taste on bullshit

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Is there any way to remove production cards from Yotsubato reading pack deck?

>>78044451
Why not buy the book for free on the Internet, though?

>>78044676
Go to your deck in "Browse" and click a card. Then press the buton "Card..." to see its layout.
If there are two separate layouts - one for recall and one for production -, you simply have to [X] the production one and it will automatically delete it from all your cards in the same category.

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>>78040685
/jp/の方で書いたけど、その｢そう｣は｢相｣または｢様 (さう)｣が語源
だから、come to look likeが元義
しかし、自分の行為や感情にこの訳は使えない
だから、
つまずいてこけそうになる
stumble and nearly fall
彼は溺れそうになった。
He almost drowned.
泣きそうになった。
I almost cried.
もちろん、文脈により、しそうになる
to be about to do
を用いるべき場合もある。
彼女は泣きそうになる。
She's about to cry
更に、自分以外なら、
彼は眠りそうになる。
He comes to look sleepy
という訳もある。

>>78046048
その絵は嫌だよ。
ペンギンさんの失恋を覚えてしまった、あたしの一日はもう台無しになった。卑怯な。

>>78045642
Okay, it worked, thanks.