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Do latinos actually unironically believe that the US interfered

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Do latinos actually unironically believe that the US interfered in South American governments and caused their societies to collapse? Or is this just a fringe conspiracy theory that only retards on 4chan believe?
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>>74361127
>Do latinos actually unironically believe that the US interfered in South American governments and caused their societies to collapse?
Yes.
>Or is this just a fringe conspiracy theory that only retards on 4chan believe?
>Projecting
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>>74361127
who's the inbreed in that pic op?
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>>74361127
We don't believe it, it's a fact.
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>>74361127
maybe you didn't cause it, but you certainly contributed to it
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>>74361150
>>74361170
>>74361224

Lmoa most Americans couldn't even be bothered to find your countries on a map and you think we're some kind of Illuminati puppet masters causing all your problems? baka tbqphwyf

>>74361215
Just some random irrelevant president
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>>74361127
It did happen. Remember the Fast and Furious scandal a couple years ago?
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>>74361127
We did in some cases which unfortunately means they claim everything wrong in their country is our fault. In reality they forget we fucked with Canada to and it also had Revolutions and yet it's not as shit.
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Those are not conspiracy theories

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua_v._United_States
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>>74361127
my uncle was killed during the civil war with american guns fired by a US-trained death squad.

he wasn't even a commie. he was just having a beer in the wrong bar.
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>>74361127
you can't blame all their problems on that, but yeah, that's pretty much what you did (not in colombia tho)
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>>74361150
>FUCK THE WHITE MAN WE ARE A FREE INDIO NATION
>t. descendant of a Spaniard's raped slave girl
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>>74361279
Hardly the societal level conspiracy they're always going on about.

>>74361290
>write you conspiracy in a wiki article
>now it's on Wikipedia so it must be real!

>>74361298
Sounds like a normal day in a typical Central American shithole.
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>>74361322
>>FUCK THE WHITE MAN

>america
>white
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>>74361298
This right here. The amount of people that died because of stupid things that were interpreted as being a commie. Pfff. I won't even start. It's pointless and very well documented btw. Go pick a book OP
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>american education
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>>74361332
>Sounds like a normal day in a typical Central American shithole.
Absolutely no need to post something like that. Apologyze.
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>>74361251
>most americans
exactly

it's the few that can and care
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>>74361322
nobody thinks america is a white nation since you elected a Somali as president.
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>>74361348
All things you did to yourselves, not our fault.
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>>74361127
It goes well beyond that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala_syphilis_experiment
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>>74361380
If you are not going to educate yourself, and you are not willing to discuss, this thread is nothing else than a hate thread.
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>>74361367
Why don't all of you apologize for eating this burger's bait
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>>74361127

Nobody believes it happened. Because we know it happened.
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>>74361127
It's a fact, idiot. Your education doesn't teach you all the fucked up shit your country has done.
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>>74361367
>implying it's not true

>>74361398
100% tin foil hattery
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it's just 4chan
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Yes we do, but we're taking revenge you dumb fattie. Get ready because the US is the next biggest hispanic country.
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>>74361364
So Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Bahrain, India and Afghanistan are nothing? Not to mention the hostages.
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>>74361380
>who financed our dictatorships?
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>>74361150
FPBP
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>>74361508
You think we'd waste money on that? Your people made their own bad choices and paid the price, we weren't involved at all.
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>>74361548
>what is plan condor?
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>>74361569
A conspiracy theory
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hmmm
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I don't know much about the US in Latin America but I'd certainly prefer living under Pinochet than turning commie under Allende.
And if the US was responsible for that I don't know what the problem is unless you are a gommie yourself
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>>74361251
We all know that most Americans are stupid
No need to inform everyone of common knowledge
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>>74361596
>I disagree with others criticizing my country therefore all their accusations are fake no matter how proved they are
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>>74361699
>I will never accept that my problems are my own fault so no matter what it will always be blamed on the US
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>>74361127
it's a fact, fucking ignorant
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>>74361622
>I don't know much about the US in Latin America
There you go

>based pinochet haha
>based southern cone

>forget about central american dictators
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>>74361622
Shut the fuck up you pasty ass permavirgin. Right wing is not going to suddenly delet the muslims out of Germany. BTW, do a google search and find out what Pinochet thought about germans (maricones chascones marihuaneros, there, I even gave you the tags).
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>>74361622
From everything I can find, 99% of the time when someone complains about US actions in South America, it's always some commie like Noam Chomsky who would have liked to see 10 Cubas down there.
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>>74361805
You are just obsessed with Noam Chomsky, fuck Latin Ameican socialism, but don't act like "the US dindu nuffin".
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>>74361127
get some history, fat ass.
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>>74361805
Fuck Noam Chomsky
Fuck Chavez
Fuck Allende
Fuck Pinochet
Fuck USA

And fuck you.
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>>74361637
If you're all so smart and we're all so dumb, then how, according to your conspiracy, did we topple every government on a whole continent? :^)
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>>74361799
I don't care about muzzies or Le Pen or /pol/ memes.
I just know that when you have the choice between right-wing and left-wing dictators the right-wing people tend to keep at least some liberties in the economy that enables a better standard of living than people would have under commie rule.

Case in point is Spain.
The good guys won the civil war (Franco vs Left-wing financed by the Soviets). You had no political liberty but economic progress and he even allowed Spain to become a normal democracy again after he died.
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>>74361841
Now list all of Russian/Cuban actions in South America during 60s-70s-80s. The continent was just another battleground between the superpowers in the Cold War just as Africa and Asia were. It happened in Europe as well, the Soviets were funding the IRA, ETA, and a bunch of other terrorists.
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>>74361150
This was interesting until the part where it started whining about the drug war.
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>>74361921
That greentext post is the Mexico is White Guy. He's extremely butthurt at the US and posts giant walls of text about how Aztecs were actually white and more advanced than Europe.
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>>74361970
Where in that post does it mention anything about Mexico being white, or Aztecs. At all.
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>>74361921
The drug war is the reason we are beheading the country. And for what purpose?
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> WE DINDU NUFFIN WE A GOOD BOI
are you gonna post this every day now?
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>>74361569
Commie removal by existing governments. Your government was a willing participant.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor
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>>74361989
He doesn't mention it in that particular post, but all of his posts consist of some variant of butthurt or wewuzzing.
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>>74361970
He is a known autistic but he never claimed that aztecs are white. Mind the tables btw, you don't want to get fired
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>>74361637
You're probably dealing with a lot of Chicanos. Mexicans here have the lowest H.S. graduation rates.

http://www.diversityjournal.com/9223-minority-test-scores-behind-whites/
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>>74362005
So what is an alternative to the drug problem other than draconian policing? "Dude weed lmao" is not a serious option.
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>>74362082
Mexico not being corrupt, incompetent, and poor so as to stop encouraging people to work for the Cartels.
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>>74361970
>how Aztecs were actually white
I haven't seen that as of yet but it would be a massive amount of insanity even for him.
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>>74361910
As an european, it's maybe normal for you to have people in your family killed or at war. It is not for us. So if I have to choose, I'd always go with whatever makes my family safe. Under the right wing dictatorships in latam you got killed because you are a fucking singer, or went to have a beer at the joint where some gommie happened to sing that night. You can not justify that kind of insanity.
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>>74362082
Legalisation
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>>74362128
>Mexico not being corrupt
I don't think you understand just how ridiculously profitable the drug trade is compared to just about anything else in Mexico
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>>74362025
You are either genuinely confusing different "Mexican" posters, or intellectually dishonest. You might even be the same American pictured. I don't care, but the fact is:

- The Mexico is white troll never posts anything about the US
- The Mexico is white troll doesn't claim Aztecs were white

- The guy that claims Aztecs were better than Europeans is a different guy
- The guy that claims Aztecs were better than Europeans doesn't claim they were white
- That guy is butthurt at Spain, not the US

- Neither of them is in the pic in the first post

Where in that post does it mention anything about Mexico being white, or Aztecs. At all.

https://archive.whatisthisimnotgoodwithcomputers.com/int/search/text/mexico%20walls%20of%20text/

You can't dismiss every single Mexican post you don't like as "The Mexico is white troll", and more so if said post has nothing to do with Mexico being white. Fuck off.
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We literally interfered in every single South American countries politics. We are to blame for some of their problems. Accept it you fucking retard and learn some history.
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>>74362082
an actual solution is that latin america becomes a narco empire and embraces its most lucrative resource, and same as you and usa have done, sink your drug consuming societies in coke and heroin until you become a husk, cia is off the business too so maybe they die off

that would give everyone what they want and the world is happy
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>>74362082
Tell me, in actual numbers, how the Drug War has improved anything. I honestly want you to look the impact it has had.
Meanwhile, the Drug War started in 2006.
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>>74362179
I already said "dude weed lmao" wasn't an option
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>>74362250
CHI
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>>74362198
I know full well and that profit margin is what allows the cartels to keep finding more soldiers to fight their wars. Mexico won't really improve until they deal with that issue and give better opportunities to the lower classes.
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>>74362266
Don't embarrass yourself, you make us all look like retards
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>>74362265
>I already said "dude weed lmao" wasn't an option
Why? It is the only viable option, like in the times of prohibition. Why do people refuse to learn from the past?
The Drug War has improved nothing, it only brought beheadings.
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>>74362321
wut
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>>74362265
But you are wrong. Legalizing it would mean a huge improvement. Think big tobacco, but way more money coming in.
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>>74362286
>Mexico won't really improve until they deal with that issue and give better opportunities to the lower classes
Which they won't because of the mad fucking dosh that you rake in by being a sell out politician
>don't vote for them. vote for the honest
Running for office isn't cheap but threats and abductions to keep your guys on the inside in power are so no dice there.
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>>74362317
You sure convinced me with that hot .jpg
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>legalize drugs
>crime ends
>mexico becomes rich
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>>74361916
It didn't happen in all the continent and at least they didn't killed common people. and what's the difference? those dictatorships were like fucking terrorism
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>>74362359
Lets take just one country, lets focus on Brazil

The Brazilian military government was the authoritarian military dictatorship that ruled Brazil from April 1, 1964 to March 15, 1985. It began with the 1964 coup d'état led by the Armed Forces against the administration of the President João Goulart, who had assumed the office after being vice-president, upon the resignation of the democratically elected president Janio Quadros, and ended when José Sarney took office on March 15, 1985 as President. The military revolt was fomented by Magalhães Pinto, Adhemar de Barros, and Carlos Lacerda (who had already participated in the conspiracy to depose Getúlio Vargas in 1945), Governors of Minas Gerais, São Paulo, and Guanabara. The coup was also supported by the Embassy and State Department of the United States.

.As the bastion of anticommunism during the Cold War, the United States provided the ideology that the authoritarians used to justify their hold on power. But Washington also preached liberal democracy, which forced the authoritarians to assume the contradictory position of defending democracy while destroying it. Their concern for appearances caused them to abstain from personal dictatorship by requiring each successive general-president to hand over power to his replacement.

In a 2014 report by Brazil's National Truth Commission which documented the human rights abuses of the military government, it was noted that the United States "had spent years teaching the torture techniques to the Brazilian military during that period."[
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>>74362058
>http://www.diversityjournal.com/9223-minority-test-scores-behind-whites/
>no source at all
>no doubt using total population instead of current graduation rates like you claim
>pic related is
>https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_coi.asp

do better
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>>74362411
All lies
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>>74362025
>Spanish flag spamming the exact same post this American does
>>74362321
>Russian Flag replies to me in Spanish as if you were the Spanish flag
>Russian post disappears
I'm starting to really believe the Mexico is white troll is a proxyfag, the same guy trying to dismiss all Mexicans posters as trolls: you.
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>>74362411
>"had spent years teaching the torture techniques to the Brazilian military during that period."

it happened here too. Lots of missing and dead people.

Fuck i hate remembering this.
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>>74361612
>Brazil
>Dilma getting impeached is American intervention
That just made me question if they had anything to do with 64 too or if it's just lefty paranoia as usual.
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>>74362404
They should have just let the commies have the Southern Cone. You have to actually experience gommunism to know how bad it is. As it is, commies were allowed to be martyrs just like they are in Spain thanks to Franco.
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>>74362488
Escuela de las americas, if you ever want to look deeper into it. Heads up tho, sick shit
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>>74362506
If that happened LatAm would probably have very high growth rates as a reaction to communism
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>Or is this just a fringe conspiracy theory that only retards on 4chan believe?

or maybe is just retarded banter/shitposting
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>>74362506
Por qué no te callas manolo. Deja de defender lo indefendible animal.
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anyone not treating ameriniggers as animals itt is just fooling himself of their nature in hopes of achieving anything reasonable in terms of consensus or persuasion
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>>74362538
Noriega please go back to France.
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For the record
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>>74362538
Sadly this
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What exactly is the 'deal' with Mexicans? Like, what's their character as a people?

They kind of seem perpetually joyless to me.
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>>74362518
Maybe, although I kind of doubt it since none of LatAm cunts were going to be successful from the get go due to a whole bunch of culture, geography, and historical factors, and some of those are our fault due to the nature of Spanish colonialism.

Even so, allowing them to become communist cunts would have scared them straight for 500 years. See this thread as proof. It's a bunch of daddy issues college students with a Che Guevara poster on their wall like, >>74361612, >>74362513 and >>74362404 having a circlejerk.
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>>74361622
>I don't know much about the US in Latin America
yeah, you just proved that.
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>>74362559
Amerindian genes are predisposed to suicidal thoughts
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>>74362559
>perpetually joyless
u wot m8?
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>>74362578
Go be poor and nazi somewhere else faggot.
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>>74362623
You do know that Spain's per capita GDP is over twice as high as the highest Latin American cunt (Uruguay), and we had similar right wing dictatorship for decades.
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>>74362622
Dour, resentful. Even their folk music is a cloying dirge.
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>>74362578
You sure sound like you know a lot about "daddy issues".
Also: Acknowleging bad things US this =/= Being a commie.
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>>74362557
This "Mexico is white troll" is all so confusing. It is starting to fuck with me as I actually have diagnosed autism.
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>>74361251
it's not a conspiracy theory. It's well known, verifiable history. The few Americans who can find said countries in a map do accept this as fact.
>>74361286
>they claim everything wrong in their country is our fault
nobody's saying that, but you've played a big part and have continued to help fuck them up until very recently.
>In reality they forget we fucked with Canada
and continued to do so up to the 20-21st century? don't think so.
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>>74362578
Para que poronga venis a hablar mierdas sin saber una sola cosa de lo que paso literalmente en latinoamerica si en tu puta vida pisaste un pais del continente pedazo de descerebrado, segui chupandole los huevos a los yankis asi te va a ir, como la perra fracasada que sos.
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>>74362559
me hating your government doesn't mean I hate myself. in fact the more I think about US's destruction the more joy I feel.
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>>74362665
So fucking what? I'm not roleplaying as a country poor ass illiterate faggot.
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>>74361150
>replies to a bait thread with a shitty green text screen cap like it is some kind of a ultimate source of truth
here is your answer, op
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>>74362496
>That just made me question if they had anything to do with 64 too or if it's just lefty paranoia as usual

I have no idea. The Chilean coup in 73 was definitely US-engineered, that's indisputable. Kissinger and Nixon went to work undermining Allende almost as soon as he was president, but the guy did fuck up Chile's economy within seconds and he only got 30% of the vote (the electoral system in Chile back then was painfully fucked up).

Some other South American coups are less clear. While there could have been US involvement, it could well have been just a case of right wing army officers taking action against commies just like what happened here during the civil war.
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What's with the latam threads lately? Hiro and his data miners must be having a field day
>>74362578
no one's saying LatAm was meant to be an utopia, and knowing the truth doesn't make anyone a commie Humanities major. No sea mamón.
>>74362614
got any source that isn't your ass? countries where suicide rates are big include UK, South Korea and Japan; white and SE asian respectively
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>>74361127
The honest answer is they do know that it wasn't all about us. But when threads like this trigger them what do you expect to hear? Of course they are going to hate all of us even more.
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>>74362667
mexicans take life pretty easy. if anything we could stand to be a bit more serious on some important cultural issues we face.
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>>74362803
This tbqh
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>>74362665
>being proud of EU gibs
Good one Jorge
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>>74362833
he seems to think all mexicans are sad cartoon mariachis lol
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It's not fringe conspiracy, do you think countries stopped colonizing others just because we're in the "future"?

Do you think people being colonized in the past had a full grasp on how deep into their colonizers' pocket they were?

If nothing else, Brazil is a shithole because of shitty deals.

We sell our industries and right to mine stuff that only exists HERE to American companies for under 2% of their estimated value.
We don't explore our natural resources to their full extent because the UN delimitates "biological reserves" and "indigenous preservation areas" on strategical portions of land to keep those natural resources untouched.

We're in the future, colonization happens through speculation and political propaganda, not weapons and gold.
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>>74362696
>verifiable
>posts a meme pic with bogus data and che guevara on it
you guys posted this same commie propaganda leaflet a million times. do you have another one?
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Also the Panamian guy ITT...his father used to work for Noriega running drugs or something and lost his job when Noriega got ousted, so he has massive butthurt at the US.
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>>74362878
Le niobium
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>>74362578
this guy wants to have a word with you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSpYhpekNaE
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>>74362803
Of course it wasn't all about the US. For as much as the US has shat on my country, taking advantage of our weakness and corruption. I know for a fact that is only collateral damage of ourselves being unable to govern Mexico properly.
But it is undeniable the fact that the US made it worse at almost every single step of the way, and to the people pretending the US wuz good bois, it seems that saying the objective reality of the US shitting on us, automatically turns us into Karl Marx trying to pass all responsibility to you. You guys are fucked in the head with chauvinism.
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>>74362892
Why wont you at least have the decency of quoting? Oh that's right, you are not replying to my post. You are just massively butthurt about me touching that daddy issues nerve.>>74362676
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>>74362902
Niobium is but a fraction of this whole thing, anyone focusing solely on a mememineral should be necked as well.
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>>74362799
Can't find the study. :/
>>74362861
>>74362833
But a lot of mexican folk songs are about accepting fate and feeling sorrowful
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>>74362799
>>74362708
thats the fagot from gibraltar, he is extremely butthurt at spain and anything hispanic and knows its coming for him soon too lol
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>>74362939
>You guys are fucked in the head with chauvinism

>guy who posts 500 WE WUZ AZTECS threads every week
>complaining other cunts are chauvinistic

That mighty Aztec empire a few dozen Spaniards managed to destroy.
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>>74363004
I don't even know what are you quoting. But making strawmans won't make you look less of an idiot.
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>>74361612
Shitty infographic desu. One wrong info made me question the veracity of the whole.
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>>74363004

That is not a real reply and you know it.
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>>74363004
>comparing national policy and sentiments to shitposts
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>>74361319
>what is panama
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>>74362987
Gibraltar posters would have British flags.

>Panamonkey education
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>>74363055
Not him, but if you were a British guy in Gibraltar, I bet it would not be hard to cross the border and post under Spanish flag.
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>>74362892
Fucking faggot picking up on him. I was the one calling you a poor ass illiterate manlet.
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>>74361127
Putting that aside, USA is still a terrible country though
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>>74362742
>joy of destruction
that's kind of a perverted thought. especially considering there is no destruction in sight and that's only your wet dreams you keep telling us about in every bait thread like this one
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>>74363004
are you a real person?
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>>74361127
>Do Americans actually unironically believe that Russia interfered in American governments and caused their society to collapse? Or is this just a fringe conspiracy theory that only retards on 4chan believe?
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>>74363117
but will peru do her best?
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>>74361127
>Do latinos actually unironically believe that the US interfered in South American government
What a shitty excuse for a bunch of stupid lazy people (at least in Mexico)
Literally what the fuck the american goberment interfered with Mexico???!?
The only i know one thing that help us with the immigration, put the shitty maquilas in border states ,aside of this what they do with mexican gobermemt!?? O-o?!???
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>>74363154
Always.
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>>74363145

Really makes you think
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>>74361332
You're kidding? Do you have any idea about the CIA backed/forced regime changes?
The CIA literally giving certain drug cartels free passes to do what they want as long as the drug trade remained controlled?
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>>74363089
Usted sabe que su "país" sólo existe porque los estadounidenses necesitaban un canal.
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>all these triggered sudacas
WEW
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>>74363129
that is true, i don't have the power to decide what happens to the person that sleeps right next to me, even less to a whole country.
It's a joyful thought non the less. And I'm happy of having it, and we're not a sad country, we're actually pretty happy and not thanks to you guys.
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>>74362886
what the fuck do you want, for me to spoonfeed you a history class?
>bogus
explain how the information in the picture is bogus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere_Institute_for_Security_Cooperation
https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/general-reports-1/chile/
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/vol44no5/html/v44i5a03p.htm
the CIA doesn't even deny it
>While it is accurate to view CIA's involvement in overthrowing the Guatemalan government as mandated by higher political authorities in the US government, it is a mistake to assign responsibility and blame for the covert operation solely on the Eisenhower White House
phew, what a relief, good thing it wasn't just the Eisenhower administration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponce_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%ADo_Piedras_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_America%E2%80%93United_States_relations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor
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>>74363208
Usted deber'a saber que eso no es del todo cierto. Pero supongo que no se le puede exigir tanto a la educación en la "Madre Patria".

Lea un libro, se lo recomiendo.
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>>74363208
>Usted
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Latin Americans are literally dindus.

Yeah, we fucked around in the region. When you are you gonna stop bitching about it and take responsibility for your own problems?

Europe's infrastructure was completely and utterly devastated after WW2, but they recovered quickly enough, meanwhile latins are still bitching that we ruined their countries because we tried to stop communism and their countries are currently getting fucked by Communism.
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>>74363198
Never happened. We fight AGAINST drugs, remember?
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>>74362886
>che guevara on it
yeah he was a real person. What the fuck is your point?
>>74363055
el haitiANO
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>>74363208
mira como escribe el proxyfag asqueroso jajajaj patetico. rico traductor.
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>>74363256
What is Plan Marshall?
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>>74363208
proxyshit can't even
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>>74363256
The vast majority of Mexican problems are Mexican made, I agree. The US is still a shit opportunistic country acting as tumour on top of it all. That is all.
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>>74363256
>Yeah, we fucked around in the region. When you are you gonna stop bitching about it and take responsibility for your own problems?

They have permanent colonial mindset. It precludes such things.
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>>74363004
>managed to destroy
with all those diseases and tech you didn't invent, of course it was easy. Rats.
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>>74363271
my point is the commie shit with che guevara on it has ZERO credibility. and that's just laughable considering most of the latam cunts hate commies now. might as well put chavez on it.
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>>74362557
>Russian flag in response to a Spanish argument
>¿Mi bandera se parece a una bandera americana para usted?
>>74363208
>Usted
I think we are unto something. I might just be tired tho.
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>>74363256
What does do with mexico??
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>>74363327
did you even read the content of the image or is that too much mental exercise for your retarded brain? All of it is verifiable data that can be backed up by going to a library. You know Castro is also in the picture right? are you so fucking brainwashed that you automatically freeze and dismiss everything at the sight of a communist person that existed? Why are you talking like the guy is fictional?
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>>74361921
Is it that hard to think rationally?
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>>74363383
>it's in a library so it must be true
Wew this delusion. You know they also put Harry Potter in the library, right?
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ITT: I've been accused of being a proxyfag and at the same time some British guy in Gibraltar, all because of not following the ANTIFA circlejerk in here

I have to feel sad at how much we fucked up with our colonialism compared to the Brits.
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>>74361127
>US interfered in South American governments
Is this in question? I mean this how the USA operates in general isn't it? Its how you got Hawaii, Texas and all that land from Mexico. Its not really in America's best interests to stop, so why would they?
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>>74363327
I also provided a few sources that include cia.gov. One event in the picture, for example, the Ponce massacre, was an actual government operation that the US has never denied happened. Just google ponce massacre. Or enter the link in my reply. You're talking like this shit is some kind of conspiracy theory made, this isn't the bullshit fake holocaust blogpost stories you read.
>>74363256
>When you are you gonna stop bitching about it and take responsibility for your own problems?
Do you watch Mexican, Argentinian, Chilean, Panamanian news? If so, do you see them blaming the US for anything? No, of course you don't. Stop talking out of your ass. Look at the fucking thread topic. We bring it up because you do, faggot.
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>>74363463
Didn't you kind of take all of the Abos' land or something?
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>>74363427
go to sleep fa m
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>>74363427
>>74362578
>>74363311
>Hey guys, it is all Spen's fault. Colonialism was a mistake. The US dindu nuffin.
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>>74363383
this pic has been posted a million times, no need to look at it. even some argies commented that the number of the victims of the junta is highly exaggerated. but you probably didn't bother to check any of the bullshit facts because muh cia. literally every single number there is bullshit.
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>>74363416
stop making up quotes I never said. Not sure if you're too retarded to understand it, but you can find many sources in a library, even ones with credibility. And in Google. Where the fuck do you get your information from other than the deep end of your rectum?
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>>74363487
>Didn't you kind of take all of the Abos' land or something?
Yes. And?

What's your point?
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>>74361970
>Mexico is White Guy.
kek, why am i not surprised
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>>74363496
>this pic has been posted a million times, no need to look at it
it seems like we need to post it a million times more for you to look at anything past >"MUH CHAVEZ!!!11"
>because muh cia
what the hell do you mean by this?
>some anonymous argies have more credibility than cia.gov
makes me wonder what kind of bullshit you believe in.
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>>74362008
Until people learn to ignore him and he will give up. But we know that will never happen.
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>>74361127
Only one Hungarian believes it.
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>>74363495
South America is shit mostly because we set up feudal social structures and only cared about resource extraction. When independence happened, local elites simply took over job of robbing and oppressing the masses. Anything after independence is secondary.

Not that it matters since we already know your father was a drug runner in the Noriega days.
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>>74363427
>ANTIFA
this has just about 0 to do with antifa
>>74363496
still waiting for a reply on all the links I provided.
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>>74362488
>Fuck i hate remembering this.
you actually lived in the 70's?
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>>74363427
There is also an American living in Spain so who knows. And there is also your use of word_by_word phrases from other Americans, the Russian deleted post, plus the fact that you use "usted" for no reason.
Bottom line is: you are retarded proxy or not.
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>>74363567
>we already know
How many people would we be talking about?
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>>74361127
Not conspiracy at all, read a history book gringo
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>>74362411
source? some commie website like countrystudies?
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>>74363569
yeah i am going to read all 200 of your links carefully one by one. first thing in the morning
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>>74363604
>>74363567
Both of you taco niggers really need to get some sleep. Srsly. You can't even string together coherent sentences.
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>>74363634
Shut up abo
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>>74363604
So what does his use of Usted explain to you?
Maybe he is just trying to be polite :D
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>>74361127
Its been proven that we did

Nobody gives a shit though "lmao its just south america"

>>74361150
>decides to post a screencap as some great deity of truth
>its 50% a basic history lesson of events from 100+ years ago 50% inane whining about drug shit
What a terrible and low effort response.
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>>74363655
Shouldn't you be getting your head sawed off by cartels now?
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>>74363427
mejor te iba pretendiendo que eras de gibraltar, si es que lo que diga un manolo en este tema vale misa, menos cuando perdieron su imperio a eeuu, y lo que viene después es una cagada de país

tragar verga gringa ahora no va a librar a españa del zurdismo que va a toda marcha, ya me voy a cagar de la risa cuando elijan a uno y vengan buscando trabajo en la próxima crisis jjajajkefjlk
dale mejor pretende que eres de gibraltar asi por lo menos dire que es bait la paja que dices
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>>74363676
it is all our fault. we sold them that saw.
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>>74363632
>lol the US interventions in latin america are bullshit that didnt happen
>gets replies with pics
>lol bullshit pictures look che guevara
>gets replies with reputable sources
>lol didnt read
>anyway its all bullshit
>>74363618
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_military_government#United_States_involvement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Brazilian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#US_involvement
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>>74363665
Spaniards almost never use "usted". They do use it, but it is really rare when they do, and only referring to older people. He might just be a weird Spaniard.
>>74363676
Shut up abo
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>>74363665
Usted is a very specific word to use. You don't just use "Usted" unless you are colombian
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>>74363705
>>74363708
Cool, at least some interesting info in this shit thread
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>>74362265
It's the most reasonable option desu.
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>>74363705
It's 6:40 AM in Spain. He's probably extremely sleep-deprived.
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>>74363697
i wonder why you single out the brazilian coup.
cia has been accused of much worse things.
that coup was rather benign, our involvement was minimal and it really didn't hurt them much compared to the coup in argentina for example.
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>>74361348
Fuck off communist.
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>>74363751
It's literally not.
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>>74363666
yes, ameriniggers tend to shrivel in denial when confronted with the facts of their own malevolence.. your answer is expected but you jumped to acceptance rather qucikly, attaboy youre a good animal. next comes the lash out, like a dindu who rapes but dindu nuffin, you will start shifting blames. come on.. go ahead, do it
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>>74363782
Don't you ever reply to one of my post you garlic smelling chink diaspora
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>>74363780
not sure who I'm replying to. I just provided sources to the guy who said it was all from a commie website. My other links are in another reply
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>>74363807
The reason that Americans shrivel is because communists took over America and taught Americans that killing communists is bad. Real Americans acknowledge and are proud of their benevolent communist-killing. You should be grateful.
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>>74363821
and the guy was talking about that Brazil coup specifically*
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>>74363819
Almost all the chinks here are from the red mainland. They're communists.

Also isn't it Koreans that smell of garlic?
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>>74363821
well you replied to me so probably you intended to reply to someone else
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>>74363797
It is. And thanks God the process of weed legalization is going on everywhere. War on drugs was a huge mistake of 20 century that cost millions of dollars and millions of lives. And for what? For nothing.
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>>74363848
Most chinks here are koreans as well. We had an incident years ago with them going to a pool and being spelled because they used a sauna or some shit and the place stink so much that they refused chinks ever since kek
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>>74363848
But China ceased to be communist a long time ago. They even abandoned an idea of planned economy which is cornerstone of communism. You can claim you're communist and embrace free market.
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>>74363889
What are we talking about. I was saying that weed lmao should be legalized and turned into a legit regulated business
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>>74363919
>can

can't
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>>74361127
>Interfered in South American governments
Most definitely we did
>Caused their societies to collapse
Only in a select few could you even begin to make this argument. We were just full red scare, and decided no commies were allowed down there.
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>>74362438
>NHOOOOOO, YOU LIE, LIEEEE, WE WUZZ GOOD BOIS!

Everytime.
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>>74363922
Than you should have paid more attention to my post and the post I was replying to.
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>>74363919
But it's still a communist country. They have no monarchy, no traditions, no family values. Even though their economy has changed, all the communist trappings remain, and all the communist destruction hasn't been reversed.
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>>74361910
>Franco was a good guy
wrong
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>>74363999
Franco was an exemplary man, a paragon of moral rectitude and good sense. Easily one of the best rulers of the 20th century.
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>>74361127
Well, the US actually invaded my country back in '63 because our President at the time was too progressive (for that time) and they feared a second Cuba. Official excuse was to ensure the safety of American diplomatic personnel. You know how many Marines did they nee to "protect" these VIPs? 42 THOUSAND
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>>74362848

Spain indeed pays in at a 40:60 ratio, which isn't even, but it's nowhere near the worst of the EU countries.

Hungary is 20%, Bulgaria is 20%, Luxembourg is 14%, Latvia is 16%, Slovakia and Poland are about 22%, hell, even a richer country like the Czech Republic is only 28%.

Spain at 40% is pretty high for an EU country.
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>>74363958
Then you should stop being russian, learn spanish and come to bundaland
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>>74364019
tell that to my grandpa, he was not even communist
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>>74363427
hablar español como un persona común y despues hacete pasar por español cuantas veces quieras. mediocre.
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>>74363889
We just legalized medical weed, just one more step
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>>74364025
tldr you are a faggot. No time for your shit. Dismissed. Next
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Where can I learn more about this? I already believe most of it but I want to be knowledgeable enough to pick up latinas.
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>>74364029
Does he have an e-mail address? I don't want to pay international phone rates or reveal my home address sending him a letter.
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>>74364069
Snail mail is always good news for grandpas
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>>74361127
That America interfered in Latin American politics is undeniable. What the socialist/communist grumblers that like to bring up this factoid never mention is that this was in the context of the Cold War and every country the United States allowed to fall to soviet proxies ended up a hell of a lot shittier than any country the US managed.

Anybody that claims they wouldn't rather live in Panama or Chile than one of the rapidly decaying socialist shitholes that make up the rest of this place is a liar or simply an imbecile.
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>>74364069
you can start digging next to a road and try to find him the army shot him for no reason
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>>74364138
>for no reason
You mean because he was an anarchist, communist, socialist, republican, etc.. Serves him right.
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>>74364168
>You mean because he was an anarchist, communist, socialist, republican, etc.. Serves him right.
he was not
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>>74364186
Oh really? Then what were his political views or associations?
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>>74364117
I would rather live here, in Brazil, Ecuador, Cuba or Bolivia than in Guatemala, El Salvador or Honduras. All with US backed dictatorships.
Socialist/communist places here are hell, but US dictators did their share of the same thing.
>b-b-but russians and socialism were bad so that justifies everything americans did
No
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>>74364029
these people actually really honestly believe usa isnt a sadist chimping out evil country, it has to be about communism or some bs. anyone reasonable arrives to this same conclusion with a little reading, it doesnt take much, less so being a miserable leftard. its like an automatic dindu nuffin switch in the brain, like they fall back on the notion that usa is a good boi because its safe and in denial try to fit the conversation into this pathetic left vs right mould
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>>74364117
Shut the fuck up you don't know shit. Your cunt is what we were in 2001. You don't know shit about the hell that is coming your way.
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>>74364219
I hate America but the one good thing they did was kill communists. Stop projecting.
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>>74364212
right wing, partido agrario
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>>74364279
That was a republican party.
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>>74364041

tl:dr I can't handle numbers

No wonder sudaca countries are so low on this list.

Good job on Chile being just BARELY better than American nigs. It's truly a fantastic achievement.
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>>74364308
it was a republic
falange was republican too
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>>74364325
The Falangists weren't monarchists, but wound up allied to monarchists because they opposed the actual republic that existed. They might have been "republicans" in terms of theoretical ideals, but they didn't support the republic, and were fighting against. The Agrarian Party did support the republic and was part of the criminal republican system. Supporting them was a perfectly valid reason to be killed.
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>>74364318
Numers? Ain't time for that fatso. Give soda pop and money.
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>>74364395
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicol%C3%A1s_Franco
why was not he killed then?
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>>74364395
Falangist here. You don't know shit. Sudoku nao
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>>74364412
>Give soda pop and money.

you'll never have my lunch money
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>>74361127
>American
>Humane

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala_syphilis_experiment
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>>74364429
>his brother Francisco Franco
HMM GEE I WONDER

>>74364434
>he's not a monarchist
pls harikitte
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Good to see amerinuffins get schooled and BTFO this badly.
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>>74364478
>Secretary-general of the agrarian party
shoot him
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>>74363145
Liberal college students are fucking dumb, more news at 11.
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>>74361127
Yes, they will never take responsibility for their self imposed shittiness.
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>>74361127
>fringe conspiracy theory
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Apart from Mexicans/Venezuelans/Cubans, most latinos will blame Spain, corruption and/or corruption for latin America's shortcomings.

Latinos are aware that we are subservient to the US, but no one really believes--or at least I've never heard---that the US actively plots against Latin America.

t. Latino
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How is this bait thread still up
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>>74361251
No one cares about the american people. They are so numerous and generic nobody cares about you as individuals. It's your state and governments that piss people off across the world.
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>>74361841
This list is so much bullshit that it hurts.

In the case of Honduras for example, The US has military academies to help train allied soldiers. Just because some of this soldiers were used in the coup of zelaya doesn't mean it's the US' fault. Zelaya was overthrown because of the plebiscite that he postulated to the people, that was seemed by some as a way for him to get rid of the term limit and extend his presidency beyond 1 term. I was there during the coup, and it was all to do with internal politics.

t. Honduran living in the US
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>>74361251
>implying americans can even point something in a map
You're right m8
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>>74361364
>being this desperate to be as the British empire and fail miserably by wasting 10% of its GDP into a military that fights poorly equiped/trained goatfuckers/ricemunchers and still lose
You cant make this shit up
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>>74362082
Im pretty sure the mexican goverment is in the war on drugs just because the US is funding it, otherwise we couldnt care less, its very profitable and most of the product is consumed by americans, the rest by the cartel

I say we stop helping the US and let them OD
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1954
Guatemala — CIA overthrows the democratically elected Jacob Arbenz in a military coup. Arbenz has threatened to nationalize the Rockefeller-owned United Fruit Company, in which CIA Director Allen Dulles also owns stock. Arbenz is replaced with a series of right-wing dictators whose bloodthirsty policies will kill over 100,000 Guatemalans in the next 40 years.

1961
The Bay of Pigs — The CIA sends 1,500 Cuban exiles to invade Castro’s Cuba. But "Operation Mongoose" fails, due to poor planning, security and backing. The planners had imagined that the invasion will spark a popular uprising against Castro -– which never happens. A promised American air strike also never occurs. This is the CIA’s first public setback, causing President Kennedy to fire CIA Director Allen Dulles.

Dominican Republic — The CIA assassinates Rafael Trujillo, a murderous dictator Washington has supported since 1930. Trujillo’s business interests have grown so large (about 60 percent of the economy) that they have begun competing with American business interests.

Ecuador — The CIA-backed military forces the democratically elected President Jose Velasco to resign. Vice President Carlos Arosemana replaces him; the CIA fills the now vacant vice presidency with its own man.
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>>74362559
>being from one of the most hated cunts in the world
>wonders why no foreigners are happy around him
Kek

USA = United States of Autism
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>>74367222
1963
Dominican Republic — The CIA overthrows the democratically elected Juan Bosch in a military coup. The CIA installs a repressive, right-wing junta.

Ecuador — A CIA-backed military coup overthrows President Arosemana, whose independent (not socialist) policies have become unacceptable to Washington. A military junta assumes command, cancels the 1964 elections, and begins abusing human rights.

1964
Brazil — A CIA-backed military coup overthrows the democratically elected government of Joao Goulart. The junta that replaces it will, in the next two decades, become one of the most bloodthirsty in history. General Castelo Branco will create Latin America’s first death squads, or bands of secret police who hunt down "communists" for torture, interrogation and murder. Often these "communists" are no more than Branco’s political opponents. Later it is revealed that the CIA trains the death squads.

1965
Dominican Republic — A popular rebellion breaks out, promising to reinstall Juan Bosch as the country’s elected leader. The revolution is crushed when U.S. Marines land to uphold the military regime by force. The CIA directs everything behind the scenes.

1969
Uruguay — The notorious CIA torturer Dan Mitrione arrives in Uruguay, a country torn with political strife. Whereas right-wing forces previously used torture only as a last resort, Mitrione convinces them to use it as a routine, widespread practice. "The precise pain, in the precise place, in the precise amount, for the desired effect," is his motto. The torture techniques he teaches to the death squads rival the Nazis’. He eventually becomes so feared that revolutionaries will kidnap and murder him a year later.
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>>74367260
1971
Bolivia — After half a decade of CIA-inspired political turmoil, a CIA-backed military coup overthrows the leftist President Juan Torres. In the next two years, dictator Hugo Banzer will have over 2,000 political opponents arrested without trial, then tortured, raped and executed.

1973
Chile — The CIA overthrows and assassinates Salvador Allende, Latin America’s first democratically elected socialist leader. The problems begin when Allende nationalizes American-owned firms in Chile. ITT offers the CIA $1 million for a coup (reportedly refused). The CIA replaces Allende with General Augusto Pinochet, who will torture and murder thousands of his own countrymen in a crackdown on labor leaders and the political left.

1979
El Salvador — An idealistic group of young military officers, repulsed by the massacre of the poor, overthrows the right-wing government. However, the U.S. compels the inexperienced officers to include many of the old guard in key positions in their new government. Soon, things are back to "normal" — the military government is repressing and killing poor civilian protesters. Many of the young military and civilian reformers, finding themselves powerless, resign in disgust.

Nicaragua — Anastasios Samoza II, the CIA-backed dictator, falls. The Marxist Sandinistas take over government, and they are initially popular because of their commitment to land and anti-poverty reform. Samoza had a murderous and hated personal army called the National Guard. Remnants of the Guard will become the Contras, who fight a CIA-backed guerilla war against the Sandinista government throughout the 1980s.
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>>74366987
What are you gonna do about it faggot? Make easter threads while Sweden turns into Somalia?
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>>74367283
1980
El Salvador — The Archbishop of San Salvador, Oscar Romero, pleads with President Carter "Christian to Christian" to stop aiding the military government slaughtering his people. Carter refuses. Shortly afterwards, right-wing leader Roberto D’Aubuisson has Romero shot through the heart while saying Mass. The country soon dissolves into civil war, with the peasants in the hills fighting against the military government. The CIA and U.S. Armed Forces supply the government with overwhelming military and intelligence superiority. CIA-trained death squads roam the countryside, committing atrocities like that of El Mazote in 1982, where they massacre between 700 and 1000 men, women and children. By 1992, some 63,000 Salvadorans will be killed.

1983
Honduras — The CIA gives Honduran military officers the Human Resource Exploitation Training Manual – 1983, which teaches how to torture people. Honduras’ notorious "Battalion 316" then uses these techniques, with the CIA’s full knowledge, on thousands of leftist dissidents. At least 184 are murdered.

1986
Eugene Hasenfus — Nicaragua shoots down a C-123 transport plane carrying military supplies to the Contras. The lone survivor, Eugene Hasenfus, turns out to be a CIA employee, as are the two dead pilots. The airplane belongs to Southern Air Transport, a CIA front. The incident makes a mockery of President Reagan’s claims that the CIA is not illegally arming the Contras.
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>>74367313
1989
Panama — The U.S. invades Panama to overthrow a dictator of its own making, General Manuel Noriega. Noriega has been on the CIA’s payroll since 1966, and has been transporting drugs with the CIA’s knowledge since 1972. By the late 80s, Noriega’s growing independence and intransigence have angered Washington… so out he goes.
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Why are Americans so evil?
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>>74367425
Good Americans do nothing to stop the evil ones.
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>>74367425
It's in their anglo blood.
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>>74367425
>Why are Yankees so evil?
*FTFY
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>>74366957
You keep bumping it
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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