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So turns out we hit the bump limit last thread so it looks like we'll stay here a little longer.

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よし、行くぞー!

>150 words today
簡単ね!

If 事 is for intangible things, how come 食事 means "meal"?

>>73582206
http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/92544/meaning/m0u/
じ、not こと
> ことがら。できごと。「事件・事故・事項・事実・事情・事態・事典・事物/火事・記事・行事・故事・惨事・私事・叙事・珍事・無事」
So it's more "food thing" than "concept of food (thing)".

How much speaking practice are you guys able to get?

I go to a small private class and have some language exchange groups I go to.

>明々々々々々後日

Japanese is fun.
Although I'm not sure how to produce that via IME.
Entering みょうみょうみょうみょうみょうみょうごにち yields nonsense.

>>73583136
None

>>73583290
日本人を探すはず!

I ask because I seem to be going in circles with my language exchanges, we end up talking about the languages English and Japanese until someone misses something, then we spend 20 minutes explaining some minute thing to each other and it ends with
>日本語が難しいいい
>English is soooo hard

Everytime I say it won't happen and everytime it does, it's getting tiring.

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>There is no rush
There is a rush though. Very few NEETs are so rich that they can guarantee that they will still be NEETs in 3 or 5 years from now and then once you're thrown into the workforce then the amount of time that you have to do anything with Japanese has now been chopped down to a fraction of what it used to be.
>That's not how human memory works
No one has ever learned something by not doing it. Unless you're sleeping then your Japanese didn't benefit from any hours (other than sleep) where you were not doing anything related to Japanese. That doesn't mean that you need to do Japanese non-stop, but there's no point in deluding yourself into thinking that your Japanese is somehow benefiting from a few hours of playing English video games or watching some English movies.
>That's how you burn out and lose motivation; you have a natural amount of curiosity and that is how fast you can learn.
Motivation is a crutch and a temporary high. If you depend on motivation in order to do something then you will never accomplish any significant long-term goal. Willpower, a good work ethic, and developing a routine of studying/working towards your goal is what yields results. Needing to feel constantly motivated will work in the beginning, but that's about it.

>>73583409
>日本人を探すはず!
探せばいい / 探すべきだ
探すはず sounds like "it is expected that you will no doubt search"

>>73583619
Thank you for that correction, been wondering for ages.

Do せばいい・べきだ have any conjugations for different verbs?

Or does 食べせばいい・食べべきだ for example work in the same way?

>>73583136
I got a lot of practice during Japan trips, but that's about it.
Frankly said, I'm happy with being able to understand anyway. Being able to speak and write Japanese is a neat little extra that may prove useful at some point, but is not at the moment with Japan usually blocking foreign IPs. (I had a 2ch-pass for a year, but didn't get enough use out of it to justify paying for another year.)
Also, fuck NHK for blocking foreign IPs from streaming their radio program. Same applies to AbemaTV, nicovideo (R.I.P.) and the likes.

>>73583776
I go to so many meet ups but my listening comprehension is still so shit. I can speak and write much better.

I have the extras but not the needed shit.

>>73583452
>That's not how human memory works
Years ago, my dad knew a guy from Russia who was born there and was natively fluent. He immigrated to some English-speaking European city and then the US at the age of 20 or something. He's like 50 now (or was when my dad told the story) and is kind sad since he, apparently, literally can't speak Russian anymore. Certain words and phrases he remembers, of course, but he lost all functionality in what he used to be monolingual in.

Anyway, he told me about that when I was a kid since he wanted to press into me the fact that it's way easier to learn a language when you're young and that we really do forget this stuff. Also, my dad used to be nearly fluent at X foreign language (not gonna say) cause his family would speak it in the house, but starting after he went to college it's become really unfamiliar to him. Not to the same degree as the Russian guy though.

>>73583776
Just use a VPN. SoftEther/VPNGate, for example, is free and fast enough for basic browsing/streaming.

What does mean こった?
まぁアンタも酔狂なこったね

>>73583906
By contrast, my grandma was born in Ukraine in the 30's, she speaks Ukrainian (poorly), Russian, German, Dutch (poorly) and English due to being a refugee through different countries.

She frequently mashes up Russian, English and German with her siblings. I guess she knows them because she uses them but she claims that if confronted with her poorer languages she's able to jump back in after a bit of exposure.

>>73584045
Is this casual 事だ?

Can anyone recommend a good way to drill grammar? Book, website, method, anything really.

>>73583714
探せば is just the ば conditional form of 探す (仮定形 plus ば). For 食べる it would be 食べれば. べき attaches to the 終止形, no conjugation required. 食べるべき.

>>73584309
Yes
>なんてこった
何って事だ

>>73584591
That makes sense I shouldve picked that up but it just looked weird to me.

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>>73584088
Use it or lose it, it's not just for muscles, memories can experience "atrophy" similar to muscles. Forgetting curve is a real thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgetting_curve
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaced_repetition

すぐあんきします!力を貸して!

Djt, can you translate this text? I tried, but it's too hard for me.
>ガキばっかり浚っちゃあ目玉を検分してよ
>気に入る目玉の子どもを見つけたらどうする気なんだい抉って頂いちまうのかい?
That speak maniac, who catches the children (Also takes away eyes)

>>73586486
I need more context, preferably a whole page

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大丈夫ですよおーーー!

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Hai anon! Well..long time no see ٩( 'ω' )و I'm a man who posted my daily written in English. Since I went through a lot ,I wanted to put personal things on my daily and, l wanted not to post it. Since then, I have been disturbed posting and putting my daily._(:3」z)_
It's been a long time since I come here as well (°_°)
After all,I wanted to greet anon in this thread!
P.S 検索してもこのスレッド出てこないから人数減ってると思うよ

>>73588960
お前は本当にLWAが大好きだね

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>>73586676
Okay.

>>73589983
好きなものは色々あるけど一つを推してた方が覚えてもらえるでしょ?こういう風に

>>73581532
Does the AJATT Method actually work? It says that you shouldn't focus on Grammar but i'm weird and actually ENJOY grammar drills, so i do them often... Am i doing it wrong?

>>73590860
AJATT is founded on valid ideas but the method itself as stated is bad. Follow the idea, not the method.

マストドン

誰でも通う?

>>73590971
So, since i enjoy grammar drills i should keep doing them?

>>73590097
I am still not sure I understand the context properly but I will try my best.
>ガキばっかり浚っちゃあ目玉を検分してよ
If you're going to keep bringing in nothing but brats, at least check their eyes first.
>気に入る目玉の子どもを見つけたらどうする気なんだい抉って頂いちまうのかい?
What are you going to do when you find one with eyes that you like? Pluck them out and keep them for yourself?

Is it possible to make a clause repeating the same particle with a different function?(Like using に as place and then again as indirect object)
Also, I've always wondered if every entence with は can be made without it(With different nuances and whatever but the same general meaning) (Like 私は肉が好き)

>>73591034
I guess you read Rocketnews as well?
Nah, social networks of any type are not my thing.

>>73591258
Big thank.
Because 浚っ in first sentence confused me.

>>73591099
If you enjoy them, of course.

>>73592941
I'm pretty sure 浚っちゃあ is 浚っては.
And in my opinion さらう should be written with the kanji 攫う or 掠う in this situation but it is up to the author.

>>73593548
>頂いちまう
And why "keep them for yourself"?
If i'm not mistaken, that 頂く + ちまう

>>73588960
お帰り

>>73596283
Yes, 頂いてしまう. Since 抉って頂いて would mean "have them gauged out by someone else" and I don't think that makes sense in context, I think he means 目玉を抉って、(その目玉を) 頂いてしまう, "gauge them out and recieve them." But I could be wrong.

>>73588960

このスレの定期的な会員は/jp/のスレに移り住むんじゃないかと考えています。たまに活動が足りないによって。僕は、ここに止まりたいと思っていますけど

今日、コードギアスを終えた。凄かった、シーズン3を楽しみにしています!

>>73599477
>シーズン3
なにこれ、冗談と思った。
超いらねぇ

>>73601117
http://otakomu.jp/archives/461850.html

Alternatively:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/11/27/code-geass-compilation-movies-to-prepare-for-new-sequel?utm_source=community&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=news&referrer=community

冗談ではないそう
I just really hope they do a good job with it, I'm willing to give it a chance.

>>73601894
*ではなさそう

>>73601894
あぁーしっかり終わったのに!

>隣の部屋で夜遅くまでおきてごそごそする音がする。

Can someone explain the grammar of this sentence? I understand everything up to the ごそごそする音がする part, I'm not sure what type of grammar this is or how it's possible.

>>73602164
「起きている」で寝てないという意味

>>73602164
音がする means "there is a sound."
する is often used in this way. 変な匂いがする, there is a strange smell. そんな気がする, There is such a feeling (I have such a feeling). It wouldn't make much sense to say 音がある because the sound is not a physical object and it's not just sitting there.

>>73591258
>If you're going to keep bringing in nothing but brats, at least check their eyes first.
I don't think して is a command. He's just leaving the sentence hanging, describing what the guy is doing. The ては is repetition. "You keep abducting all these children and inspecting their eyes!"

>>73602304

I understand 音がする, I just don't get the ごそごそする part and why/how it comes right before 音がする. I'm assuming it's modifying it but I don't really know how.

>>73602164
>>73602426

ごそごそする音 is just basic noun modification like you can find in Tae Kim. Just like 食べてる人 for example.

It's just a description of the sound.

>>73602471
(I used just 3 times and I just want to off myself.)

>>73602306
Yea, I'm pretty sure this is it. Rewording the whole bubble, you could write it is ガキばかり浚っては目玉を検分するなんて、アンタも酔狂なこったね

>>73602471

Could you give me a very literal translation of ごそごそする音/ ごそごそする音がする?

I guess what I'm not getting is why both of those verbs are present and what kind of meaning both of them together is supposed to create. The person who wrote this sentence could have used just one of them, right?

>>73602625
隣の部屋で夜遅くまでおきてごそごそする is what someone is doing
音がする is the sound of that being produced

>>73602750

Oh, that makes sense. Thanks.

>>73602625
So, ごそごそ is a rummaging soung.
ごそごそする音 is a sound like something is being rummage or whatever.
ごそごそする音がする
a sound like something is being rummage is produced.
At least that's how I understand it. I get the confusion though, オノマトペ are pretty annoying to deal with I find.

>>73602625

Usually phenomimes/psychmimes will have a ”ーーとする” form when describing something. The と is probably the quotation と, but as you can see it's always necessary to include it. 音がする is an expression, but it's the ごそごそ that's made into a relative clause to describe the noun 音 in particular.

You'll see this a lot as you read; this one comes to mind from my reading today

"DX系のキラキラとしたカラフルなシンセワーク"

Colorful, DX type shimmering synth work

>>73602870
Actually this makes more sense I guess >>73602750

I suppose ごそごそ is literally an action?

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>>73602982

*not always necessary

>>73602984

ごそごそ would only be a description of an action; it's an adverb. する can in some circumstances be an action, but it can also describe a state, among many other things.

>>73602982

For the とする thing, are you talking about this DoJT entry https://djt.neocities.org/bunpou/full_day.html#%E3%8A%A5%E3%81%A8%E3%81%99%E3%82%8B(2) ?

That grammar looks odd

>>73602984
http://thesaurus.weblio.jp/content/%E3%81%94%E3%81%9D%E3%81%94%E3%81%9D%E3%81%99%E3%82%8B

>>73602982
I don't know if that's applicable here. ごそごそ IS the sound, isn't it? Not a description of it. So it'd be ごそごそという音がする if it was talking about the sound specifically. I'm not completely certain however.

>>73603342
As opposed to ざらっとした音, for example.

>>73603342

I don't know, I'm not familiar enough with the word to know if it's a phonomime or phenomime. And I don't know if that matters for the とする construction. The original sentence and your reworked sentence are ultimately a description of a sound, since sound doesn't have agency to actually do something. Through the alien frame of Japanese grammar, maybe it could theoretically speaking be considered an action.

>>73603282

Possibly, I haven't actually studied this construction too much, I just see it often while reading.

>>73603644

From what I've gathered, I assume you're saying that ごそごそする is modifying 音, thus making the consolidated unit ごそごそする音, which is then acted upon by がする. At least, that's what makes the most sense to me

Does the DoJG Anki deck have cards from the beginner, intermediate, and advanced DoJG?

btw guys
"ごそごそ音がする" - 3.020 Google results
"ごそごそと音がする" - 16.300 results
"ごそごそする音がする" - 1.380 results and first page is all the sentence posted here
if there is a difference in meaning I think you're worrying a bit too much about it ;)

>>73603793
There's a significant difference. Because ごそごそする is what the guy staying up past his bedtime in the next room is doing, and the other two describe a sound only.

>>73603872
Or well, whatever, that's how I see it. I read it as something similar to 隣の部屋で夜遅くまで起きてだれか扱く音がする

>>73603723

Right, well I don't think anyone here is contesting to that. I think you understand what it's saying so keep reading. ;)

Here's more examples of what I was saying from that blog:

"AOR風のゆったりとしたメロディが多用され"
"淡々としたレゲエ調..."
"生き生きとしたシンセサウンド..."

>>73603793

Japanese grammar has slain many an hour for the anon

>>73601939
あ、ども

>>73604043

On a side note, can you direct me to any resources that explain that とした grammar like it's used in those examples? I don't really understand it at all

>>73604182

I don't have anything on hand. The link you provided earlier looks adequate for a provisional understanding. All the examples I posted are describing the noun through a relative clause. The melody is relaxed, the reggae style is dispassionate, the synth sound is vivid. Like I said before, する has a lot of uses, and at least how we think in English, it's not always an action that's happening. Like I think one early example in Core 2k is 彼女は青い目をしている "she has blue eyes".

http://jisho.org/search/%E3%81%99%E3%82%8B

>>73604182
>とする
http://www.yookoso.com/notes/yookoso-book-2/

>>73605547

That page is only covering the volitional + とする construction. This is an important construction but not what he was asking about. Here's def 8 from jisho:

とする: 8. to feel (e.g. after sound symbolism or psychological experience word); to look; to feel like

I'd say "sound symbolism" confirms it.

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Can someone explain how this sentence's grammar is used to convey it's supposed meaning "I'm glad you like it?"

>>73605795

its* my bad

>>73605795
It's literally "I'm happy to receive the favor of you being pleased."

>>73605834

I thought もらう was from the recipient's point of view, so wouldn't よろこぶ have to refer to the speaker and 嬉しい refer to the 風香? Also, why the potential form?

>>73606015

Fuck, don't know why I put "the." It's late

>>73606015
もらう is from the recipient's point of view. Fuuka is doing the よろこぶing, which Asagi receives as a favor. As a result of this, Asagi is うれしい.

It's in the potential form because the real literal translation is "I'm happy to be able to receive the favor of you being pleased" and I was reading too quickly before.

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>どこまで我を 滾らせれば 気が済むのか!!
What did he mean by this?

>>73606131

Thanks, I think understand now

On a side note, if it's 風香 doing the よろこぶing then wouldn't the literal translation be "I'm happy you are able to receive the the favor of you being pleased"?

>>73606177
Just how worked up do you have to make me before you'll be satisfied!?

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What compelling content are you currently reading?
Personally myself I am reading Pokemon ORAS

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>>73606260
>worked up
Oh, thank you that makes so much more sense than these. I'll add that to my notes

>>73606480
Nothing, too busy playing games and watching anime

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DJT, I finished Core10k, omedetou me!

>Next in line:
- Read Tae Kim daily until it's finished;
- Read mango daily;
>Then:
- Keep reading daily;
- Make cards for remaining Joyo Kanji not in Core;
>Then:
- Keep reading daily;
- Read DoJG;
- Start learning jinmeiyou;
>Then:
- Keep reading daily;
- Start mining.

>>73607293

You really memorized 10,000 words before you started on grammar???

It took me like 3 days to read Tae Kim...

>>73607293
Congratulations. I'm very surprised you haven't read Tae Kim by now. Did it take you around 1 and a half years with more or less 20 new cards per day?

>>73607293
Also, how on earth did you learn how to write/read words with kanji in Core if you havent gone through a kanji deck? Whenever i find an unknown kanji in Core it's incredibly hard to remember it.

>>73607516
If you wanna learn to write, then just write every kanji when doing core reps. Always check the order when not sure.
At some point, learning new kanji becomes quite natural, and you pretty much already know how to write it without looking up the order or anything. I don't think you really need to go through a separate kanji deck for that stuff.

>>73607629
Do you guys make menmonics or something for doing Core?

>>73581618
ワロタwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>73607293

おめでとう

今後、どうしても単語を一つさえ忘れていけないよ

一気に勉強続けて =)

>>73607629
Also, how do you not learn how to write using Core? It's sentences which lack the word. If you dont know how to write it(regardless of stroke order) then what are you studying?
I find it impossible to retain how the kanji in the word look+the sound+the meaning

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>>73607486
Yes, knowing all (almost all) joyo kanji gives me such a great peace of mind.
I couldn't find the will to learn Japanese in the past because of that, I felt like I had no grasp on the written system. Kinda like trying to learn English without knowing the alphabet, or learning music theory without knowing standard notes, scales and modes. Hell, I couldn't learn music before learning what a 12-TET system was.
Now I've appeased my autism enough so I can really dabble into the rules of Japaneesey.

>3 days
What the hell, did you learn anything? I intend taking 1~2 months, one lesson a day, so I can absorb it properly.

>>73607494
Yes, 473 out of 491 days studied. It's been well over a year since I last skipped a day, though.
>>73607516
I would write down every card review up until month 8, you can see a sharp drop in review time at -8mo in my chart, that's when reviews started to take too long and I decided to stop writing to keep it manageable.
Either that or the fact that I already knew about 80 basic kanji from Grade 1 for years before actually picking up Anki, those might have given me a small edge on familiarty/recognition.
I by no means know how to write them, only recognize. When I'm already self-sufficient in Japanese, Somewhere down the road I feel a RTK or similar methor will be needed to really solidify my kanji knowledge.

>>73607738
I wish I could go through Core10k in one sitting and do all the cards in order to see my "real retention", but not only it would take 32 hours, my brain would probably start to overheat and shitty focus would lower retention, not memory.

>>73607750
>>73607676
I don't personally do any sort of isolated kanji study. No mnemonics or anything. I have both J->E and E->J cards, so I just have to write words when reviewing E-J cards (which is kinda fucked because of all the similar looking words...)

It also means that I don't necessarily know the meaning carried by a particular kanji.
I just know words that use it (I also usually end up know the on/kunyomi).

But you can just do word recognition and you would be able to read but not write.

>>73608056
>>73607907
I see, thanks.
I'm about 500 kanji into KD, but whenever i find a kanji i dont know in Core i find it unbelievably hard to learn it. Maybe I'm just bad at learning words and kanji together. I can remember the sound/hiragana and the meaning really clearly, but the kanji i dont already know are just impossible to retain(which is really frustrating, when i "know" the answer but not the kanji). I think I'll postpone Core until I've finished KD

>>73608182
Does that happen regardless if the new kanji is a mix of familiar radicals or something totally new?

>>73608225
Regardless. I've tried to make up some mnemonics for the ones like this but I suck at it

>>73607293
It gives me a headache knowing someone got to 10k.
It makes me feel tired, でもおもでとう!

>>73603747
All three, yes.

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Anon who created the Discord server, are you there?

You're the only one with Admin rights, so either transfer them to someone else or don't disappear!

>>73607726
>wwwwwwwwwwwwww
What does this mean?

>>73608670
笑

>>73607516
You don't need to remember everything from the start, you only need to recognise it at first. Then if you're writing the word down every time you see it you'll be able to recall the exact shape at around the same time as that word moves from your passive to active vocabulary.
Mnemonics are usually only necessary for recalling your passive vocabulary, but if it's passive vocabulary then by definition you don't need to recall it.

Maaan, I love super predictable compounds like 外国語... They make me feel so great when I press "good" in Anki. Nice to see kanji finally making my life easy for once.

>>73609770
Like 顔射.

>>73610048
wew

>Do NOT attach 「だ」 to i-adjectives.
Holy shit, I've been writing shit like 青いじゃない and 青いです for months and Duolingo never marked it wrong. Next time I'll try 青くない and see what happens.

>>73610678
です is fine because there it acts like a sentence-ending particle. だぜ and だね can also be acceptable for the same reason, they act like compounds.

Attaching だ alone to い-adjectives is a common mistake made by people who learn with resources that introduce です first and then introduce だ as a casual version of です, hence the warning.

>>73610729
It's not clear by your explanation, but 青いだ would be incorrect in any instance, even ending a sentence?
>resources that introduce です first and then introduce だ as a casual version of です
Shit, nigga, I thought that was the case. I guess it was just luck I have always opted between desu or leaving it out compeltely.

>>73610786
青いだ would be incorrect ending a sentence.

However, there are specific patterns where the sequence 青いだ occurs where it doesn't act like the sum of 青い and だ, and in those patterns it's not necessarily incorrect. Google "いいだぜ" (with quotes) for example.

>>73610812
I'm comfus

1 青いだった
2 青かった
3 青かったです
4 青かっただった

Are 1, 2 and 3 possible?

And how exactly da relates to desu? Isn't desu the -masu form for da?
Now I've looked in a dictionary and there is also dearu/dearimasu, FUCK!

>>73610920
1 and 4 are wrong. 2 and 3 are right.

>And how exactly da relates to desu? Isn't desu the -masu form for da?

No, they're totally different things and work different syntactically too. Here.

>The difference between だ and です is sometimes translated as a difference in whether a contraction is used, but it's important to remember that this is *not* what's happening in japanese. だ and です differ in terms of a lot more than politeness. In more complex grammar, it's OK to use one, but not the other.

>Now I've looked in a dictionary and there is also dearu/dearimasu, FUCK!

だ comes from である. です probably doesn't, though.

>>73611045

であります - ありま = です

What do you think? I say that without looking it up lol.

>>73611143
です acts more like でございます than であります when it comes to syntax, and です and ございます can both be contracted to っす. The evidence isn't conclusive either way, though, and we don't have unambiguous written records of です evolving like we do with だ.

>>73611173

Ah, interesting. I was reading a thank you post on a blog today and amidst the polite language was a lot of でございます's, and no である/であります's. である seems to be more like "professional/newspaper" speak. Bizarrely, it seems in those settings that "だ" would be more formal than です and であります.

>>73611308
Yeah, だ is used again in very formal writing. Once you go off the deep end into the hardest writing, the short normal things become acceptable again in terms of formality. Like how a polite speech would avoid contractions but a research paper would use them again.

>>73611308
Tangential related, things like だ are often omitted in newpaper headlines, bylines, etc. to save on space.

>>73602625
A while ago someone linked this page in DJT:
http://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/

It's generally useful when dealing with shit like this, but it does not have that specific sound.

>>73611173
What do you think of this? I don't know how accurate the source is, but it is something.
>室町時代に用例が見え始めるが、江戸語においては主に遊里の女性の言葉であって、一般に広まったのは、江戸に集まった地方出の武士たちがまねて使ったことによるという。明治時代以後、丁寧語として用いられるようになった。
http://kobun.weblio.jp/content/%E3%81%A7%E3%81%99

>>73611403
Seems legit, it just doesn't say anything about what です was before it was です. There's always a before.

>>73611442
Before seems alien to me:
http://www.hello-school.net/haroajapa011001.htm
>丁寧語…聞き手(読み手)に対して敬意を表す言葉で、「はべり」「さぶらふ」「さうらふ」がついた語。
>基本的な口語訳は「~です」「~ます」「~ございます」になる。
>はべり
>さぶらふ
>さうらふ
ヽ(´ー｀)ノ

>>73611487
I know, right?

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>灯あかくかかげなどして、御果物ばかりまゐれり
訳:
>灯火を明るくかきたてて、(光源氏に)お酒の肴だけを差し上げた。

>>73611599
石サン、豚米人ト何ガ企ンデイルノカ!?!?

>>73611841
どうかな
http://www.mmcafe.com/nico.html#http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3841644
世界侵略

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>>73612101
Man, this show makes me so sad, I will never be their friend and burn my teens eating tangerines in the living room. I will never have Kana steal my food and pinch her smart-ass face demanding an apology.
Chibiko will never sit on my lap, and Haruka will NEVER EVER invite me over for a nabe party by the kotatsu.

I've been thinking of rewatching it, but never really made time for it, maybe I should watch it raw as a way of practicing.

>先週医者だったボブは、仕事を辞めた。
>Bob who was a doctor last week quit his job.
Could the Japanese sentence also mean that Bob quit it last week?

>>73613008

Contextually speaking it would probably never be the former. Here are a few comments on that sentence by natives. Jaeger's comment shows what the 2 choices are going to be in real circumstances:

https://hinative.com/en-US/questions/1307267

>>73613721
In my mind, for some reason, the sentence with the meaning Tae Kim gives reads kinda poetically, just like a "The long gone summer is now forgotten". Maybe it doesn't sound natural in a casual setting, which is what natives will generally have in mind for assessing these things, but would be perfectly fine if written in a book.

>>73612611
>Chibiko
千秋・ちあきですよ
Definitely rewatch it though.

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Woah, reading the entire Basic Grammar section was a walk in the park, this is going to be faster than I anticipated.

Iterations! Coming back to topics you're already familiar with after a good chunk of immersion really shows how much you've learned and also helps tying up a few loose ends here and there.

>>73615392
I was just bullying.
I'm sorry, 小さきちゃん!

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>>73581532
>死なない edition
loling
>>73590097
陸でもないの読んでんな
gross
>>73591258
全く違う
句読点をつけて考えろ
>>73602306
『ては、~する』
は、習慣を表す
だから
you always abduct only children and inspect their eyes
>>73597829
この場合の助詞「て」は手段を表している
「車に乗って行く」の「て」と同じ
正確に言えば「抉り取る」を二つに分けて言っているだけ
you take their eyes by digging out them
>>73602519
このスレで、できないちゃん同士で訳しあって意味があるのかね?
日本語スレで訳を頼めばいい

>>73587818
Still only know meanings for most kanji but

>Ritsu's shirt - Happy Osu?
>Azusa's shirt - Number one
>Yui's shirt - Big, Black, Pillar
>Mio's shirt - kanrui?
>Mugi's shirt - chiyabashira?

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>>73602164
>>73602625
>>73602750
>>73602984
we assume that your parents have sex in the next room late night
you can say: I awoke by the sound like something's moving ごそごそする音
で目か覚めた
>>73602870
そら、泥棒はごそごそするのは確かだな
何かが動く音がすることを「ごそごそ音がする」と云う

相変らず、おバカっなスレっすね

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>>73610678
>>73610812
その場合は、語幹の名詞が断定の「だ」に付く。
信号は青だ。
ただし、形容詞の終止形そのものにも断定の意味がある
>>73610920
単に形容詞の活用がわかってないだけ。
「青いです。」→「青でした。」
という言い方はあるが1のような言い方はない。

まあ、お大事に

>>73616417
>kanji
>reads ハピネス as Happy Osu
>reads ちゃ as chiya

Seriously, finish Japanese 101 before attempting to read even simple stuff like that.
I wouldn't be surprised, if a few fansubbers and scanlators were at about your level when they tried to release something. It would explain a whole lot.

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Ask somebody who gets roasted for his terrible handwriting on the regular anything

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=112smZWj3EM
>watching not-Jappari-Park-memegirl memegirl
>she sings アブラハムにはしちにんのこ
>wonder why a Greasy Ham would have 7 offspring throughout the whole thing
>turns out it's Abaraham
On my defense, the song makes no correlation between having 7 children and shaking your limbs, so the ham wouldn't be that odd of an addition.

>>73581532
Has anyone here updated to the latest or a recent Firefox build? Apparently Yomichan now works on Firefox versions 51 and up but I've never used Yomichan before.
http://forum.koohii.com/thread-13742.html
I'm currently using Firefox 41.0.1 and updating just to try and addon would be a pain in the arse.

Going to ask on /jp/ as well.

>>73620458
I'm on 52 and rikaichan works. I'm assuming yomichan is something similar?

Wondering if these types of readers will still function when XUL id deprecated. I hardly use them anymore anyway

>>73620996
>rikaichan
Not Rikaisama? If it still works I may upgrade.
>Wondering if these types of readers will still function when XUL id deprecated.
I was reading on one of the kanji koohii threads a post by the person who is responsible for Yomichan that Rikaisama will have to be completely rebuilt once Firefox stops allowing something or other, maybe that is what you are referring to.

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>>73619307
いきなり、難しい漢字を書く必要などない
扌(手偏)や 犭(獣偏)のハネが変
もっと鋭角に
女のハネが不自然
心の真ん中の点の位置に注意
斎が旧字体
胞が誤字

とめはねっ!
とかを見な
各部首の書き方に注意

全体としては、「よくできました」

>>73621384
I don't know what the cool extension is these days. Like I said I've had rikaichan forever and I almost never use it

>maybe that is what you are referring to.
It is. It's extremely controversial. Firefox is phasing out the old extension framework (XUL) in favor of something that allows much more limited access to the browser interface as a whole. My personal favorite extension (pentadactyl) is fucked once this becomes official. I was wondering if all the *chan and *sama readers would be messed up as well and it looks like they will be

>>73596465
ただいま!
>>73598219
なるほど…それは寂しいね
ここの落ち着いた雰囲気すきだよ

>>73622587
This thread is soon to be bumped off the board anyway.
The Easter festivities have begun.

>Want to speak casually but formal is easier to conjugate on the spot so I end up with mixed casual and formal sentences

>贔屓
>favouritism
From the 3 貝s, the yellow hand only picked one: its favorite!
I love when these things click.

>>73621384
>Not Rikaisama?
No.
>If it still works I may upgrade.
There was an update (3.02) to keep it working a while ago.