/balk/

>>72993039
bljak

>>72992825
>Milos Obilic
top kek he wasn't even serbian to begin with,in fact he was a Hungarian mercenary.

FIRST FOR BULGARIA IS SACRED ALBANIAN LAND

TATARSHITS TO BACK TO TATARIA

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>be Serbian
>have the best qts in the balkans
>tallest people in the world
>have a pure, albanian-free country
>no muslims, gypsies and subhumans breeding on your land
>in better shape than EU members
>getting free gibs from russian subhumans
>about to get gibs from the entire european community and become the best state in eastern europe
>some tatar tells you about empires 700 years ago

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Facts about the Serbs

- We invented the fork
- We invented Electricity (Tesla)
- We invented the first Electric Car
- We invented the Radio
- We invented Nuclear weapons and Theory of Relativity
- We started WW1
- We produce 2/3 of the world's Raspberries
- We are the oldest recorded people (Srbinda - Rig Veda 2500BC)
- We invented modern cavalry (Hussars)
- We made the first Clock in Russia
- We invented the first long sword (Schiavonesca)
- We made the first ethnic church in the world (1219)
- Largest Orthodox Temple in the world (St Sava Belgrade)
- We have the oldest instrument in the world (Gusle)
- We are the first nation to break free from the Ottoman Empire
- Only people to kill a Sultan on the battlefield (Kosovo battle 1389)
- Only people to ever down a Stealth Bomber
- Created the Ashkenazi Jews
- We are the most imported NBA players
- We have the best tennis player of all time (Djokovic)
- We have slept with the most beautiful women of the world (Adriana Lima)
- Only people to survive jumping out of an airplane without parachute at 39,000 feet (Vesna Vulovic)
- First people to invent running a plane into a building (Nikola Kavaja 1979)
- First to create a Terrorist group (Black Hand)
- We have the oldest Flag in the world (1166)
- The first Russian Tsar, Ivan the Terrible was a Serb
- Serb frescos are in the Kremlin
- The most famous Diamond Thieves are Serbs (The Pink Panthers)
- Famous Hollywood stars all played Serbs in movies (John Travolta, Tom Cruise, Dennis Hopper, Sam Rockwell)
- Famous people learned Serbian - Christian Bale, JRR Tolkien, Leonardo Dicaprio,
- James Bond is based on a Serb MI6 agent (Dusko Popov)
- The most spoken minority language in Austria and Switzerland is Serbian
- Most famous Performance Artist of history is a Serb (Maria Abramovich)
- The first Satellite-to-video transmission in history was of a Serbian fresco
- Vampires originate from Serb folklore
- Tallest ethnicity in the world (6'1'' 186cm average)

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Did you know that 27% of non-Transylvanians live in poor or very poor villages? Keep that in mind the next time a Romanian flag says something bad about us

>>72993096
>top kek he wasn't even serbian to begin with,in fact he was a Hungarian mercenary.

>Albanian
>History

Pick one

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>>72993164

>>72993164
>Vampires originate from Serb folklore
Stop stealing Transylvanian culture and heritage balkanshits

>>72993239

Did you know that Serbs gave you your national dance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZV2KKkKsb4

>>72993270
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/bulgaria/11153923/Vampire-grave-found-in-Bulgaria.html

Back off, steppenigger, we wuz vampire slayers n shit.

>>72993164
C R I N G E

>>72993270
did you know that serbs slept with your mother and are your father ?

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>>72993272
No they didn't, that is some old kingdom shit
Transylvanians are culturally and geographically Central European (we don't meet the political criteria because we're not independent)

>>72993239
>transylvanians
No such thing. There is? Show me your transylvanian passport then.

i find Romanian WE WUZ funnier that tatarshits

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primul pentru anime

>>72993377
That's a video game, not anime, idiot.

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>>72993342
europa centrala nu exista retardatule

>>72993405
t. animu expert

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>>72993415
viseaza in continuare regatean imbecil

>>72993342
>No they didn't, that is some old kingdom shit

You never had an old kingdom you dingbat.

A sârba or sîrba is a popular Romanian and Csángó dance normally played in 2/2 or 2/4 time. It was named after the Serbs.[1]

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>>72993464
Old Kingdom means Romania minus Transylvania and Bukovina

>>72993464
Please fuck off

>>72993464
come home Serb man

>>72993587
>come home Serb man

I would but I'm scared Vucic will win the election.

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Ok but we invented Viagra, trump that Serbfkins.

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>>72993650

>the only time all albanians were united

Serbs invented Greater Albania

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>>72993707
In all seriousness i would chose the return of the Serbian empire if it meant we'll have the same privileges we had back then.

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>>72993629
there's nothing to be afraid of

>>72993760
you had better privileges in Kosovo under Yugoslavia than in Albania

i can't find the video but there's an elderly Albanian man saying that he would rather live in Yugoslavia than in Albania

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>>72993377

>>72993788
I'm fairly sure it had to do with the strike by the Kosovo miners. In 1989 they blocked themselves in for ten days in asking for better conditions, not indipendence as it was said at the time. It was on the news for a while, but their demands were for "brotherhood and unity and the right path of Tito".

>>72994161

Albanians were demonstrating for a "Kosovo Republic" in 1981.

>>72994201
Yeah no. The demonstrations which broke out in March and April 1981 were organised by students of the University of Prishtina for better conditions, later by a range of political and illegal groups for their own goals. The demand for a Kosovo republic never happened because Kosovo already had autonomy until in 1989.

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The only empire we need

Macedonia will replace UK as the new shining start of the EU

/balk/ meeting on skopian bike lane when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyDUC1LUXSU

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>>72993707
>just
>can't
>conquer
>thessalonika
is sea the bane of the slav?

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All the balkans go to this uni?

>>72994487
>you didn't create the EU
>we created the EU

can't wait for the EU to cuck you into literally genociding yourselves in favor of shqips

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Greece is my wife

>>72994819
>it was created with the support of Turkish

never change /balk/

>>72994405
You're basing your facts on Serbian legends, but On May 26, 1913, 130 leaders of Gruda, Hoti, Kelmendi, Kastrati and Shkreli sent a petition to Cecil Burney in Shkodër against the incorporation of their territories into Montenegro. Franz Baron Nopcsa, in 1920, puts the Klimenti as the first of the Albanian clans, as the most frequently mentioned of all.

People from these tribes that have been genetically tested are either J2b2, E-V13 and R1b, all three of these haplogroups are most common among Albanians and not among Slavs thus ruling out the theory that they descend from Slavs.

>>72994875
>>72994894

>>72994296
>s which broke out in March and April 1981 were organised by students of the University of Prishtina for better conditions, later by a range of political and illegal groups for their own goals. The demand for a Kosovo republic ne

Sure, "better conditions"

That's why they were waving Albanian flags and shouting "Kosovo Republjik".

I see your Illyrian typing-sticks are working well

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pew pew

>>72994944
TUT TUT TUT TUT FOX ONE FOX ONE TUT TUT TUT TATATA TATATA TATATA

>>72994854
It's fine

>>72994875

You're basing your facts on something that happened only 100 years ago?

The Albanian tribes hypothetically Albanized over 400-500 years ago. And this is according to their own albaphone legends too, which Jovan Cvijic recorded in the 19th century.

Prek Cali himself was proud of his Serb origins

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If you ever go to Germany i'll beat you up, giaours

>>72994944
*mpooom*

>>72994923
There's no such thing as rightful clay.

>>72994940
>Sure, "better conditions"

>That's why they were waving Albanian flags and shouting "Kosovo Republjik".

Find me 1, one, recording of the strike in 1981 where they mention a Kosovo Republic.

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>>72995012
>>72994978
MAAAAAAAAO

>>72995017
>There's no such thing as rightful clay.
suuuuuuure

>>72995017
All of the media coverage on those protests document the students shouting this. There is footage of Albanian and Turkish flags.

You were just waiting until Tito died to carve out a piece of land.

>>72995057
AOWEEEEEEEEEEH
MYAOWEEEEEEEEH

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who else gonna /beer and video games/ tonight

>>72995004
I'm basing it on genetic data. The people of Hoti, Gruda, Shkreli, Krasniqi, Kastrati, Klemendi and so on are all genetically closer to Albanians than to Serbians. It is impossible for them to have been Serbian and later Albanized, if they themselves weren't Serbianized Albanians.

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>>72995006

>>72995067
Not an argument. I want a recording of the events of 1981 when it happened like you said.

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>>72995006
address and time, I'll be waiting for you subhuman

>>72993239
Did you know 9 out of 10 posters claiming they are Transilvanians are actually Bozgors, Russians or not orthodox scum?

>>72995096
me probably, gona pump some dumbbells and then play some OW.

>>72993164
based vucic

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>>72995096
ayyy oohh niggah
imma hit a comfy bar for beers and irl shitposting and meze and then lan with them till the morning

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I love Turkey <3

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what is this map showing?

>>72995213
>play some OW
>OW
fucking subhuman

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When will Arab Greeks convert to Islam?

>>72995100

the Slav R1b gene is higher in Albania than in Serbia. Albanians have very mixed haplogroups.

Plus, haplogroups =/ origins

They can be closer today, doesn't mean their originators weren't Serbs.

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SAY SOMETHING IM GIVING UP ON YOU
IM SORRY THAT I COULDNT GET TO YOU
ANYWHERE I WOULD HAVE FOLLOWED YOU
SAY SOMETHING IM GIVING UP ON YOU

AND I......


WILL SWALLOW MY PRIDE
YOURE THE ONE THAT I LOVE
AND IM SAYING GOOD BYE

SAY SOMETHING IM GIVING UP ON YOUUUUUUUU

AND IM SORRY THAT I COULDNT GET TO YOU
AND ANYWHERE WOULDVE FOLLOWED YOU OOOOOH OOOOOH
SAY SOMETHING IM GIVING UP ON YOU

SAY SOMETHING IM GIVING UP ON YOU
SAY SOMETHING.............

>>72995249
>this map
>true

>>72994875
>Shkreli

>>72995194
e autistul din cluj, un loldovean din republica loldova

>>72995251
why are manchilds triggered by video game choices ?

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>>72995249
Holy fuck it's true
Look at South Indian genetic admixture of Romanians

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anyone else playing fire emblem heroes

>>72995338
Romania is like 40% Romani Gypsy so it's not a surprise

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>>72995338
I only memed
I don;t like where this is going

>>72995320
t.subhuman

>>72995260

when will greek turks convert to chirstianity ?

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>>72995249
>not posting the original

>>72995461
>the heritage of greater bulgaria
ASPARUUUUHHHHH

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>>72995265
>Albanians have very mixed haplogroups.
We have less haplogroups in our makeup than Bulgaria or Greece.

>Plus, haplogroups =/ origins
But they mean just that.

There's an obvious pattern in your arguments, you put culture above race, and that is not just one of the most illogical things to do but borderline delusional. To you it wouldn't matter if the group is Albanian, or Romanian, or Bulgarian, as long as they speak Serbian, write Serbian and call themselves Serbian. You don't care that they aren't genetically related to the original Serbians, because you absorbed them into your culture, therefore they should be rightfully yours you believe. However, the flaw in this logic is that differently from culture, race is static. You can impose a culture over individuals, later someone else can, and later a third party can too, but it doesn't change, and it never will, that they are a group different from yours.

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>>72995461
Our gypsy admixture is not that much tbqh senpai

>>72993125
>no gypsies
Cute

>>72995506
>We have less haplogroups in our makeup than Bulgaria or Greece.
you shouldn't be proud of that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founder_effect
>The founder effect occurs when a small group of migrants that is not genetically representative of the population from which they came establish in a new area.[3][4] In addition to founder effects, the new population is often a very small population, so shows increased sensitivity to genetic drift, an increase in inbreeding, and relatively low genetic variation.

>>72995432
Never
why would anyone worship a kike on a stick

>>72995571
it's actually proven that albanians came from some small group 1000 years ago

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>>72995461
>not posting the real original

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>>72995571
>increase in inbreeding

>>72995639
your blotch includes sofia

thanks famalam

>>72995506
>We have less haplogroups in our makeup than Bulgaria or Greece.

You're still more mixed than Serbs are (over 60% I2a1)

>But they mean just that.

Haplogroup only shows the dna of one parent.

>you put culture above race

At the end of the day, all of the Balkans are the same race. And it is culture that makes your identity, not being an incestoid.

>>72995571
The only difference is that we don't have K (Caucasus) in ourselves, while Greeks, Serbians and Bulgarians do. It's not something extreme as a founder effect, otherwise we'd be like the Ashkenazi Jews.

>>72995057
>and Vehk said, six are the ways to reach heaven by violence.

>>72995752
>over 60%

You wish, Serbia is less than 30% I2.

>And it is culture that makes your identity, not being an incestoid.

Then why the fuck do you claim the northern albanian tribes are Albanized Serbs when it's the opposite and everything genetically points that way? Why does everyone you like have to be Serbian always? How can you claim them to be Albanized Serbs without any basis in science?

>>72995841

Albanians have Slavic genes

I2a1: 14.5%
R1a: 9.1%

genes posting is pathetic.

>>72995980
>You wish, Serbia is less than 30% I2.

Serbia is only ~70% ethnic Serb.

Herzegovina and western Montenegro which is over 99% Serb is 60%+ I2a1

>>72995916
The Father is a machine and the mouth of a machine. His only mystery is an invitation to elaborate further.

The Mother is active and clawed like a nix-hound, yet she is the holiest of those that reclaim their days.

The Son is myself, Vehk, and I am unto three, six, nine, and the rest that come after, glorious and sympathetic, without borders, utmost in the perfections of this world and the others, sword and symbol, pale like gold.

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communism <333333333

ARGH, CAN'T THIS FUCKING WORKDAY END FASTER
I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE

>le genes maymay

oh so if say an albanian has different genes from the so called "albanian genes" then what? what if you do a test and it turns out you're that guy?

fucking idiots

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>>72996120

Theocracy is the only way

>>72996001
Not Slavic, they were ere since the Indo-European migrations.

>>72996072
Are you fucking serious? Montenegro is likewise barely 30% I2. And guess hich is the second-largest?
It's E1b1b, at 27%. Now where could they gotten all that E from? Could it possibly be from the Albanians taken in it? No? This is the result of you putting culture over race.

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>>72996295
the revolution of the proletariat is the only way

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>>72996205
J-just t-two more hours and we're FREE for whole two and a half days brother

hold in there

>>72996059
t. not perfect genes
I myself got tested and am 99% of the Ω haplogroup, the haplogroup of alexander attila hitler and napoleon told to be lost through the aeons. Yes I got purple eyes and blue electric hair
1% is r1a though so I bought a helium tank and a mask

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>>72996248

Then obviously it's death by Snu Snu

bout to shave my head boys

>>72996248
Are you trying to advocate Civic Nationalism?

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You either join the popular fight..

>>72996337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4

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>>72996473
or perish in the name of freedom

>>72996386
Absolutely not

but genetics are a meme and you know it

if some greek or serb or bulgarian or even turk, declared he's albanian you'd gladly accept him as such, don't pretend it's otherwise, you wouldn't ask for a dnk sample, hell you wouldn't even ask where his ancestors are from

genes are meaningless in determining ethnicity

it's 90% about self consciousness

>>72996367
wow, not even part of the anunnaki alien mutant offspring, pleb tier genes тбх.

>>72996337
>two hours until 5 pm
>living in the s*rbian timezone

laffing @ u hard. what's it like to live in the past?

>>72996496
>genes are meaningless in determining ethnicity

>it's 90% about self consciousness

Hypothetical scenario:
It's been two centuries from now, both Albanians and Serbians have coalesced to the point they're 100% identical genetically. Conflicts are still going on over who is in their right. Are North-Albanians just Albanized Serbs, or are South-Serbians just Serbianized Albanians?

How would you answer this question?

>>72996496

So, if a person from Nigeria proclaim to be macedonian, you would go - oh, ok then - I don't see any difference, would you ?

So if the answer is no, then there is some divide when it comes to ethnicity.

I would far more easily for example pin point a greek trying to pass as bulgarian than macedonian or a serb.

>>72996316
>Not Slavic, they were ere since the Indo-European migrations.

They're the two haplogroups most associated with slavs.

>Montenegro is likewise barely 30% I2.

Montenegro is also, only 75% Orthodox Serb. Herzegovina and Western Montenegro are considered the Genetic nucleus of the Serbs.

>It's E1b1b, at 27%. Now where could they gotten all that E from? Could it possibly be from the Albanians taken in it? No? This is the result of you putting culture over race.

E1b1b is a hellenic marker - over 20% in Cyprus, Greece, Macedonia, Sicily, North Africa.

Where do you think Kosovo Albanians got it in such high numbers? From the medieval Kosovo Serbs (the higher class Serbs) - who heavily intermixed with the Greeks.

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God please no. Do we really need this haploautism right now? It's Friday ffs.

>>72996633
america

>>72996662
no because he's a nignog, he's clearly from africa

>>72996633
i don't understand? since there is no such thing as "albanian genes" or "serbian genes" the people there are whatever they identify as

>>72996663
>E1b1b is a hellenic marker

E1b1b has been in Europe before the Hellenes even arrived. By the time the Myacenes crossed Anatolia E1b1b was already over the Danube. (http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA.shtml)

You can't claim whatever you like as Serbian, it's illogical and not rooted on anything provable. "Oh but they intermixed with Greeks therefore Kosovars are Serbian-Greek offsprings that identify as Albanian!"

>>72996706
I don't want to, i seriously don't. But here we have a guy that first claimed north Albanians are genetically Serbian, then that Serbians aren't genetically homogenous, then that Kosovars are Serbian-Greek genetically, without any genetic basis. He's basically telling me, a north-Albanian, that i am Serbian because i don't fulfil his stereotype.

HJAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGiYsZLpgBc

>>72996793
Let me rephrase:
Both sides claim that the other is actually of their side and the other side is just subjected to another culture. Who is right and who is wrong?

>>72996793

>i don't understand? since there is no such thing as "albanian genes" or "serbian genes" the people there are whatever they identify as

ok, here is the equivalent - take a color chart look at the color red, now look at the one next to it, it is still kind of red, and the next is still kind of looking as the previous, so by that logic red=blue if you take enough steps and put equivalent between the colors- that will be the end result

I agree - geographically closer populations tend to have more in common with each other, than populations who are located far away.

But even between two neighboring countries some differences are bound to occur.

Look at the compiled facial features of different countries, even on the balkans we have our differences for example.

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I blieve halpogrp D3B75 is the Greek one xdddddd the apbanian is K1DN3Y XDDDDDDD XAOXAOAOXOAXO

>>72997065
>explaining to a SDSM retard that different ethnicites exist

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>>72997067
finally a good post out of your low quality repertoire

mpalk is my favorite 4chan sumpreddit mpoard

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>>72997167
DZIBSI :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>72996963
>E1b1b has been in Europe before the Hellenes even arrived. By the time the Myacenes crossed Anatolia E1b1b was already over the Danube

Dating of haplogroups cannot be confirmed. One simply has to see the dispersal of the haplogroup and match it with the historical context, it simply fits "Magna Grecia", and is most frequent in the Greek populations.

>You can't claim whatever you like as Serbian, it's illogical and not rooted on anything provable.

Medieval Serbian dynasties (who were all centered in Kosovo) heavily mixed with Greeks, that's a fact. In fact the Nemanjic dynasty is roughly 50% hellenic.

North Albanian tribes are culturally Serbian, and by origin Serbs - I mean it's quite obvious. Skadar/Shkoder was a medieval Serbian capital for centuries.

Typical northern Albanian catholic name: "Sokol Stanishaj" or "Vesel Vukprelaj"

I mean obvious

>>72997227
stfu serbgypsy

you are 50% gypsy 50% albanian

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>>72996793
Also that's the point I'm trying to make. There's this retarded idea that north-Albanians are just Albanized Serbs, so "logically", all of northern Albania should be incorporated into Serbia. On the other hand, point to them that the North-Albanians are closer to the rest of Albanians and they will drag on with unimaginable levels of mental gymnastics.

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oh wow
independent studies really show info that your governments hide from you

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>>72995194
>>72995299

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made full recovery today

>>72995194
>orthodogs
>not scum
pick 1 and only 1

>>72997167
this!

mpyra
mpoulgaria
sermpia
mpoooooompaaaaaaaaaaaaAaAa

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>>72997227
>North Albanian tribes are culturally Serbian, and by origin Serbs

BUT WE ARE NOT GENETICALLY.
How many times do i have to repeat it? We are, and always will be, closer to Albanians than to Serbians, and this is a fact.

I don't care about your two Cherrypicked names you took from some pages. I right here have a book with every Christian Albanian that died between 1946-1948.

>>72997534
yes you are serbshit

you are like the gorani retard who thought he was a shiptar

>>72997383
why did he back down, it's not like bulgarians would do anything

>>72996706
>>72996706
>>72996706

>>72997329
>are closer to the rest of Albanians

>are closer to the rest of Albanians

>Northern Albania
>I2a1: over 14.5%

>>72997576
rappers act tough but deep down are pussies

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>>72997585
>>72997534

eiste oloi malakes xaxxaxa axxaxaaxxasxxa xaxaaxxaaaxxaxx saxaxsxxaxsxxasxxsxaxaxaaxaxaxxax axaaxxaxaxaxaxaaxxaxaxa

Bugari hehe

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>>72997585
>you are 15% I2 therefore you are all Serbian
>forget that it means you are 85% Albanian

kek the shqip is in denial just like a macedonian when he finds out he's bulgarian

>>72997629
some of ours get really butthurt when they see youtube comments like "yeah, he's gone commercial now he's garbage" lmfao

>>72997679

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMlTAfXgAkI

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1)Should I go running?
2)Hit the Gym?
3)Or just have a coffee and go out partying later in the night?

>>72997830
option 3

>>72997830
gym
im hitting the dumbbells at home soon.

you are biggest problem is you are ego tbx

>>72997772

Realistically considering all of Albania is 14.5% i2, that means northern albanians themselves are way above 40-50% i2, because the haplogroup increases the closer you get to Herzegovina.

>>72997776
The difference is you are both culturally an racially Bulgarian. We're discussing if culture or genetics is more important here.

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>>72997830
hit the gym
have bath
call it a night

also rolan

>>72997772
>I2
>Serbian
Enough with that shit now.

>>72997885
>stalker
the fuck is that even

OХO MИШКИ AЙДE ПETЪКA ДOЙДE И CЪM TУК ЗA CEДMИЧHИЯ PEКET. AЙДE ПУTКИ ДAЙTE ПAPИTE CИ HA BЪЗPOДEHИЯ BИC

>>72997871
my biggest problem is you're a face

>>72997830
you should post hot white prime girls

skadar is sacred serbian land

>>72997935
OVO

Cкaдap, Дpaч, Tиpaнa. Cpпcкe пpecтoлницe, Cpпcких кpaљeвa.

>>72997935
Serbia is sacred Albanian land.

https://vipottbpkcdn06.vip.hr/kaq0acoj5iaaa3ktmtwclkaaaaaaaaaaaaaceymifknce2mg/0000570/Stream(04)/Segment(14909673705290000).ts

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>>72997898
>Enough with that shit now.

Albanized Serb triggered

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>>72997927
it's end of Q1, I should find a new girl for Q2.

https://vipottbpkcdn06.vip.hr/kaq0acoj5iaaa3ktmtwclkaaaaaaaaaaaaaceymifknce2mg/0000570/Stream(04)/Segment(14909674405290000).ts

>>72997959
kek, but it was NEVER albanian land to begin with

>>72997970
(you)

>>72997874
There's no nee to make baseless deductions when someone already made a list of North and south Albanians.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_by_ethnic_group

Now let me recap what has happened in this thread. First you said north-Albanians are Albanized Serbs, then i showed you racial evidence we aren't, then you've claimed that culture was more important than race, now you claim that north-Albanians are racially Serbian, which i had already shown you weren't. So which one is it, culture or race?

Ok,WTF is going on here?

>>72998039
Did you just find out you're Serbian?

Congrats Shiptarovic

>>72997974
I wanna eat her cute little toes

>>72998016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVe96a4SJ0s

>>72998039
you are serb, get a beret and a zastava and happy hunting

>>72997970
>high concentration of I2 in southeastern albania
wtf, are there some serbs left? i suppose their height is similar to ours since they carry that haplogroup the most

I am turk

>>72997970
sardinians confirmed for original serbs

>>72998037
>Now let me recap what has happened in this thread. First you said north-Albanians are Albanized Serbs, then i showed you racial evidence we aren't, then you've claimed that culture was more important than race, now you claim that north-Albanians are racially Serbian, which i had already shown you weren't. So which one is it, culture or race?

Racially you are, culturally you are and geographically you are.

Prek Cali and Pavle Djurisic were blood brothers

>>72998107
It's the Vlach communities. As conflicting as it may seem, South-Albanians are more relate to Slavs than north-Albanians.

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shqips block the road
wat do

>>72998016
Same for Shkoder.

> In classical times, the city was known as Scodra (Latin: Scodra). In the middle of the 3rd century BC, it was the capital city of the first Kingdom of the Illyrian tribe of the Ardiaei, that settled on the Adriatic coast.

Before you start any WE WUZ post, I posted this to prove that his city isn't and wasn't Serbian since in the beginning.

>>72998065
>>72998085
Serb? Just a made up word! I ain't no slav M8. Illyro-Thracian right here

>>72998166
it was serbian in the middle ages though

>>72997762

кaжи cинe

>>72998166
you you claim something which was byzantium/illyrian province to be yours? HAHAHAHAHA

I may have come up with the greatest april fools prank, can I post it here?

>>72998148
>Racially you are, culturally you are and geographically you are.

Then why do we speak a different language, write with a different alphabet, and are in constant conflict with each other? I don't give a shit about Prek Cali or whoever you want to fish, I've proven you already we aren't serbian nor genetically nor culturally, now stop dodging the question and answer me. What makes a person Serbian, culture or race?

>>72998166
The city name itself comes from Shkodrin (Ancient Greek: Skodrinon)… meaning "Where the Drin goes" in Albanian

>>72998154
Macedonia really looks like Greece

>>72998220
I claimed that it wasn't yours either. :)

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>>72998239
DLELET

>>72998254
but it was, it was given to us and it was one of the first serbian states

Is this the prototype of an Albo in Sweden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olH1qXW2w4M#t=275

>>72998107
>wtf, are there some serbs left? i suppose their height is similar to ours since they carry that haplogroup the most


There's a large Serb community in and around Libofshe in southern Albania.

http://top-channel.tv/lajme/artikull.php?id=204899

ZIDANJE SKADRA

Grad gradila tri brata rođena,
do tri brata, tri Mrnjavčevića:
jedno bješe Vukašine kralje,
drugo bješe Uglješa vojvoda,
treće bješe Mrnjavčević Gojko;
grad gradili Skadar na Bojani,
grad gradili tri godine dana,
tri godine sa trista majstora;
ne mogoše temelj podignuti,
a kamoli sagraditi grada:
što majstori za dan ga sagrade,
To sve vila za noć obaljuje.

Kad nastala godina četvrta,
tada viče sa planine vila:
"Ne muči se, Vukašine kralje,
ne muči se i ne harči blaga!
Ne mož, kralje, temelj podignuti,
a kamoli sagraditi grada,
dok ne nađeš dva slična imena,
dok ne nađeš Stoju i Stojana,
a oboje brata i sestricu,
da zaziđeš kuli u temelja:
tako će se temelj obdržati,
i tako ćeš sagraditi grada."

Kad to začu Vukašine kralje,
on doziva slugu Desimira:
"Desimire, moje čedo drago!
Dosad si mi bio vjerna sluga,
a od sade moje čedo drago;
vataj, sine, konje u intove,
i ponesi šest tovara blaga:
idi, sine, preko b'jela sv'jeta,
te ti traži dva slična imena,
traži, sine, Stoju i Stojana,
a oboje brata i sestricu;
jali otmi, jal' za blago kupi,
dovedi ih Skadru na Bojanu,
da ziđemo kuli u temelja,
ne bi l' nam se temelj obdržao,
i ne bi li sagradili grada."

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>>72998223
this is
the prank
:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>72998179
>Serb? Just a made up word! I ain't no slav M8. Illyro-Thracian right here

It's an older word than illyrian, that's for sure.

>>72998330
Kad to začu sluga Desimire,
on uhvati konje u intove,
i ponese šest tovara blaga;
ode sluga preko b'jela sveta,
ode tražit' dva slična imena.
traži sluga Stoju i Stojana,
traži sluga tri godine dana,
al' ne nađe dva slična imena,
al' ne nađe Stoje i Stojana,
pa se vrnu Skadru na Bojanu,
dade kralju konje i intove,
i dade mu šest tovara blaga:
"Eto, kralje, konji i intovi,
i eto ti šest tovara blaga,
ja ne nađoh dva slična imena,
ja ne nađoh Stoje i Stojana".

Kad to začu Vukašine kralju,
on podviknu Rada neimara,
Rade viknu tri stotin' majstora:
gradi kralje Skadar na Bojani,
kralje gradi, vila obaljuje,
ne da vila temelj podignuti,
a kamoli sagraditi grada!
Pa dozivlje iz planine vila:
"More, ču li, Vukašine kralju!
Ne muči se i ne harči blaga
ne mož, kralje, temelj podignuti,
a kamoli sagraditi grada!
No eto ste tri brata rođena,
u svakoga ima vjerna ljuba:
čija sjutra na Bojanu dođe
i donese majstorima ručak,
ziđite je kuli u temelja:
tako će se temelj obdržati,
tako ćete sagraditi grada."

Kad to začu Vukašine kralju,
on doziva dva brata rođena:
"Čujete li, moja braćo draga!
Eto vila sa planine viče,
nije vajde što harčimo blago,
ne da vila temelj podignuti,
a kamoli sagraditi grada!
Još govori sa planine vila:
ev' mi jesmo tri brata rođena,
u svakoga ima vjerna ljuba:
čija sjutra na Bojanu dođe
i donese majstorima ručak,
da j' u temelj kuli uzidamo:
tako će se temelj obdržati,
Tako ćemo sagraditi grada.
No je l', braćo, Božja vjera tvrda
da nijedan ljubi ne dokaže,
već na sreću da im ostavimo,
koja sjutra na Bojanu dođe?"
I tu Božju vjeru zadadoše
da nijedan ljubi ne dokaže.

>>72998333
wow you removed romania from the balkans, what a great prank

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>>72997970
Guys please for the love of god don't post Haplogroups. Post genetic admixture. Haplos only show your male/female lineage.
For example according to this map Italians and Uyghurs are same.

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>>72998299

Come Transylvanians

>>72998359
>>72998359
>>72998359
>>72998359
>>72998359
>>72998359

>>72998325
They're Bosnians not serbs. They're Muslim and left from Novi Pazar because of Serbian orthodox discrimination. They're not there since antiquity or some shit

>>72998370
već na sreću da im ostavimo,
koja sjutra na Bojanu dođe?"
I tu Božju vjeru zadadoše
da nijedan ljubi ne dokaže.
Utom ih je noćca zastanula,
otidoše u bijele dvore,
večeraše gospodsku večeru,
ode svaki s ljubom u ložnicu.
Al' da vidiš čuda velikoga!
Kralj Vukašin vjeru pogazio,
te on prvi svojoj ljubi kaza:
"Da se čuvaš, moja vjerna ljubo!
Nemoj sjutra na Bojanu doći,
ni donijet ručak majstorima,
jer ćeš svoju izgubiti glavu,
zidaće te kuli u temelja".
I Uglješa vjeru pogazio,
i on kaza svojoj vjernoj ljubi:
"Ne prevar' se vjerna moja ljubo!
Nemoj sjutra na Bojanu doći,
ni donijet majstorima ručak,
jera hoćeš mlada poginuti,
zidaće te kuli u temelja!"
Mladi Gojko vjeru ne pogazi,
i on svojoj ljubi ne dokaza.

Kad ujutru jutro osvanulo,
poraniše tri Mrnjavčevića,
otidoše na grad na Bojanu.
Zeman dođe da se nosi ručak,
a redak je gospođi kraljici;
ona ode svojoj jetrvici,
jetrvici, ljubi Uglješinoj:
"Ču li mene, moja jetrvice!
Nešto me je zaboljela glava, —
tebe zdravlje! — preboljet ne mogu;
no ponesi majstorima ručak."
Govorila ljuba Uglješina:
"O jetrvo, gospođo kraljice!
nešto mene zaboljela ruka, —
tebe zdravlje! — prebolje' ne mogu;
već ti zbori mlađoj jetrvici".
Ona ode mlađoj jetrvici:
"Jetrvice, mlada Gojkovice!
Nešto me je zaboljela glava,
tebe zdravlje! — preboljet ne mogu;
no ponesi majstorima ručak."
Al' govori Gojkovica mlada:
"Ču li, nano, gospođo kraljice!
Ja sam rada tebe poslušati,
no mi ludo čedo nekupato,
a bijelo platno neisprato."
Veli njojzi gospođa kraljica:
"Idi," kaže, "moja jetrvice,
te odnesi majstorima ručak,
ja ću tvoje izaprati platno,
a jetrva čedo okupati."
nema šta će Gojkovica mlada,
već ponese majstorima ručak.

>>72998325
>ne 1926 ata që deklarohen si serbët e Libofshës ishin vetëm një familje.

>Sot, ata janë shtuar në 112 familje ose duke iu referuar të dhënave të komunës, një total prej 432 personash.

Lmao.

>>72998148
But if Albanian and Serbian culture are the same then, how can someone be Albanized?

>>72998440
They're Serb muslims, and clearly identify as Serbs - and have a Serbian school in Libofshe. (Not that bosnians aren't ethnically Serbs regardless of their delusions)

They've been there for over 100 years.

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>>72998378
come home hellenic man

>>72998462
Kad je bila na vodu Bojanu,
ugleda je Mrnjavčević Gojko;
junaku se srce ražalilo,
žao mu je ljube vijernice,
žao mu je čeda u kol'jevci,
đe ostade od mjeseca dana;
pa od lica suze prosipaše.
Ugleda ga tanana nevjesta,
krotko hodi, dok do njega priđe
"Što je tebe, dobri gospodaru,
te ti roniš suze od obraza?"
al' govori Mrnjavčević Gojko:
"Zlo je, moja vijernice ljubo!
Imao sam od zlata jabuku,
pa mi danas pade u Bojanu,
te je žalim, pregoret' ne mogu!"
Ne sjeća se tanana nevjesta,
no besjedi svome gospodaru:
"Moli Boga ti za tvoje zdravlje,
a salićeš i bolju jabuku!"

Tad junaku grđe žao bilo,
pa na stranu odvratio glavu,
ne šće više ni gledati ljubu;
a dođoše dva Mrnjavčevića,
dva đevera Gojkovice mlade,
uzeše je za bijele ruke,
povedoše u grad da ugrade,
podviknuše Rada neimara,
Rade viknu do trista majstora;
al' se smije tanana nevjesta,
ona misli da je šale radi.
Turiše je u grad ugrađivat:
oboriše do trista majstora,
oboriše drvlje i kamenje,
uzidaše dori do koljena:
još se smije tanana nevjesta,
još se nada da je šale radi;
oboriše do trista majstora,
oboriše drvlje i kamenje,
uzidaše dori do pojasa:
tad oteža drvlje i kamenje;
onda viđe šta je jadnu nađe,
ljuto pisnu kako ljuta guja,
pa zamoli dva mila đevera:
"Ne dajte me mladu i zelenu!"
To se moli, al' joj ne pomaže,
Jer đeveri u nju i ne glede.

Tad se prođe srama i zazora,
pake moli svoga gospodara:
"Ne daj mene, dobri gospodaru,
da me mladu u grad uzidaju!
No ti prati mojoj staroj majci:
moja majka ima dosta blaga,
nek ti kupi roba il' robinju.
te zidajte kuli u temelja."
To se moli, no joj ne pomaže.

>>72998377
no, the prank is the balkans
we are not balkanoi turcoi :DDDDDDDDD

>>72998531
>we are not
as an outsider, could have fooled me ;)

>>72998522
A kad viđe tanana nevjesta
da joj molba više ne pomaže,
tad se moli Radu neimaru:
"Bogom brate, Rade neimare,
ostavi mi prozor na dojkama,
isturi mi moje b'jele dojke:
kada dođe, moj nejaki Jovo,
kade dođe, da podoji dojke!"
To je Rade za bratstvo primio, -
ostavi joj prozor na dojkama,
pa joj dojke upolje isturi:
kade dođe nejaki Jovane,
kade dođe, da podoji dojke.
Opet tužna, Rada dozivala:
"Bogom brate, Rade neimare,
ostavi mi prozor na očima,
da ja gledam ka bijelu dvoru
kad će mene Jova donositi
i ka dvoru opet odnositi."
I to Rade za bratstvo primio,
ostavi joj prozor na očima,
te da gleda ka bijelu dvoru
kade će joj Jova donositi
i ka dvoru opet odnositi.

I tako je u grad ugradiše,
pa donose čedo u kol'jevci,
te ga doji za neđelju dana:
po neđelji izgubila glasa;
al' đetetu onđe ide rana:
dojiše ga za godinu dana,
Kako tade, tako i ostade,
da i danas onđe ide hrana:
zarad čuda i zarad lijeka,
koja žena ne ima mlijeka.

>>72998517
so albanians and greeks were the tatars the whole time

what a plot twist

why are transylvanians mentally unstable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDsZ_l7gokk

>>72998499
>But if Albanian and Serbian culture are the same then, how can someone be Albanized?

It isn't, only northern Albanians play Gusle (Serbian instrument), only northern Albanians have blood feud (an old Serbian tradition), celebrate the Slava, and have Slavic names, and are tall (Serb trait - real Albanians are manlets).

>>72998517
an another bullshit map

>>72998293
>it was given to us and it was one of the first serbian states
Wouldn't the same be said for Kosovo if it was given to us?

>>72998578
>only northern Albanians have blood feud
Kurd tier

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>>72998471
>From one family to 112 within a single generation

>>72998601
>Wouldn't the same be said for Kosovo if it was given to us?

The western Balkans were empty when the Serbs arrived in 7th cent. You weren't there yet

>>72998574
Too progressive for you and the rest of the Balkans

>>72998555
but greece is mpalkanian
and we are above the danube

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wew this is iran tier

>>72998601
this >>72998641 and also you got unconstitutionally kosovo by force and by using a loophole, so i doubt that two things can't be compared by any means

>>72998671
>a peninsula is defined by a river
thanks for informing me

>>72998671
>tfw origin from above the danube
>tfw I'm below the danube today

i cri everyday

>>72998703
And also by crying like bitches.

>>72998703
*can be

>>72998721
Filthy subhuman

>>72998578
>albanians
>tall

you really believe in internet memes don't you?

>>72998696
>How dare people wear headscarf
Are you retarded or just underage?
Probably both.

>>72998741
read again what he said exactly

>>72998711
;)

>>72998703
>The western Balkans were empty in 7th cent
Suuure.

Legjenda e Rozafatit
I ra mjegulla Bunës dhe e mbuloi të tanë.
Tri ditë e tri net kjo mjegull mbeti aty.
Mbas tri ditësh e tri netësh nji erë e hollë fryu e e naltoi mjegullën. E naltoi dhe e shpuni deri në kodrën e Valdanuzit.
Aty maje kodrës tre vëllazën punoshin. Ndërtoshin nji kështjellë. Po, murin që naltoshin ditën u prishej natën, e kësisoj nuk e naltonin dot. Na kalon aty nji plak i mirë. - Puna e mbarë, o tre vëllazën. - Të mbarë paç, o plak i mirë. Po ku e sheh ti të mbarën tonë? Ditën punojmë, natën na shembet. A din me na diftue ndoj fjalë të mirë: çka të bajmë që t'i mbajmë muret më kambë? - Unë di - u thotë plaku ~ po drue me jua thanë se a' mëkat. Atë mëkat hidhe mbi krytin tonë, se na duem ta qëndrojmë më kambë nji këtë kështjellë. Plaku i mirë mendohet e pvet: - A jeni të martuem, trima? A i keni ju të tri varzat e jueja? - Të martuem jemi - i thonë ata. - Edhe të tre i kemi varzat tona. Na thuej pra ç'të bajmë që ta qëndrojmë këtë kështjellë? - Në daçi m'e qëndrue, lidhuni me besa-besë: varzave mos u diftoni, në shpi mos kuvendoni për fjalët që do t'ju thom unë. Ate prej të tri kunatave që do të vijë nesër bukë me ju pru, ta merrni e ta muroni të gjallë në mur të kështjellës. Atëhere keni me pa se muri ka me zanë vend e me qëndrue për jetë e mot. Tha kështu plaku e shkoi: njitash u pa, njitash s'u pa.

>>72998741
Albanized Serbs from the north are Tall actually.

>>72998761
pls dont behead me bro

RATE YOUR MAKEDONIANESS

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>>72998793
Albanians are the worst Serbs

>>72998711
The peninsula itself begins south of the Danube but everything south of the Carpathians is culturally Balkan

>>72998784
Oh! Vëllai i madh e shkeli besën e fjalën. Kuvendoi në shtëpi, i tregoi vashës së vet kështu e kështu, i tha të mos vinte atje të nesërmen. Edhe i mesmi e shkeli besën e fjalën: ia tregoi të tana vashës së vet. Vetëm i vogli e mbajti besën e fjalën: nuk kuvendoi në shpi, nuk i tregoi vashës së vet. Nesër. Të tre ngrihen shpejt e shkojnë në punë. Çokat shkapeten, gurët copëtohen, zemrat rrahin, muret naltohen. Në shpi, nana e djemve s'din gja. I thotë të madhes: - Moj nuse e madhe, mjeshtrit duen bukë e ujë; duen kungullin me venë. Nusja e madhe ia kthen: - Besa, nanë, sod s'mund të shkoj se jam e sëmunë. Kthehet i thotë të mesmes: - Moj nuse e mesme, mjeshtrit duen bukë e ujë; duen kungullin me venë. - Besa, nanë, sod nuk mund të shkoj, se kam me shkue te fisi me bujtë. Nana e djemve i kthehet nuses së vogël: - Moj nuse e vogël... Nusja e vogël brof në kambë: - Urdhno, nanë! - Mjeshtrit duen bukë e ujë; duen kungullin me venë. - Besa, nanë, unë shkoj, po e kam djalin të vogël. Drue se don gji me pi e kjan. - Nisu, shko, se djalin ta shikjojmë na, s'ta lamë me kja - i thonë të kunatat. Ngrihet e vogla, e mira, merr bukë e ujë, merr kungullin me venë, e puth djalin në të dy faqet, niset e bjen në Kazenë; njaty ngjit kodrën e Valdanuzit, i avitet vendit tek punojnë të tre mjeshtrit: dy të kunetnit e i shoqi. - Puna mbarë, o mjeshtër! Po ç'asht njikështu? Çokat ndalen e s'shkapeten, po zemrat rrahin fort e fort. Fëtyrat zbehen. Kur e sheh i vogli të shoqen, hedh çokun prej dore, mallkon gurin e murin. E shoqja i thotë: - Ç'ke ti, o im zot? Pse mallkon gurin e murin? Hidhet kunati i madh: - Ti paske lindë n'e zezë ditë, moj kunata jonë. Na e kemi ba me fjalë me të murue të gjallë në mur të kështjellës.

>>72998806
So I was right.
Fucking Christians man, both your religion and people are retarded. We should get rid of your shitty kind.

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diaspora bullying albos
wow what a tuff guy

>>72998816
Suck my dick instead?

>>72998782
they were, our medieval chronicles about zeta and duklja state exactly that. you were savages in that time invading from south our lands which attacks we successfully resisted

>>72998782
>Suuure.

Have you read Porphyrogenitus? Emperor Heraclius literally invited the Serbs to settle the western Balkans because that part of the empire was desolate and empty from centuries of Hunnish and Avar raids and chaos.

If you guys were there that'd be like the American Government inviting 1 million Chinese to move into Los Angeles and take the homes of American citizens.

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>>72998866

>>72998858
When will we turn Acropolis into a mosque again?

>>72998853
- Shëndosh ju, o kunetë. Po unë do t'ju la nji porosi: kur të më muroni në mur, synin e djathtë të ma lini jashtë, dorën e djathtë të ma lini jashtë, kambën e djathtë të ma lini jashtë, gjinin e djathtë të ma lini jashtë. Se djalin e kam të vogël. Kur të nisë të kjajë - me njanin sy do ta shikjoj, me njanën dorë ta ledhatoj, me njanën kambë t'i tund djepin e me njanin gji t'i jap me pi. Gjini m'u nguroftë, kështjella qëndroftë, djali jem u trimnoftë, u baftë mbret e mbretnoftë!

Ata e marrin nusen e vogël e e murojnë në themel të kështjellës. Dhe muret ngrihen, naltohen, nuk shemben ma si ma parë. Po rranxë tyne gurët janë edhe sod të lagun e të myshkun, sepse vahdojnë me pikue lotët e nanës për birin e saj... E biri? Biri u rrit, luftoi e trimnoi.

>>72998828
>The peninsula itself begins south of the Danube
nah, it below a line from odessa to trieste
that's a peninsula, bordered by sea on 3 sides, not bordered by 3 seas and a river

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>>72998858
>not triggered

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>>72998578
>only northern Albanians play Gusle
We don't, we have 2 strings

>only northern Albanians have blood feud
Again, we don't, most blood feuds are in the south

>celebrate the Slava
We don't, we don't have patron saints

>have Slavic names,
I already showed you a list of North-Albanian names, want to show you a second one?

>and are tall (Serb trait - real Albanians are manlets)
This is arguably a trait and more a result of the drastic gene pool reduction that happened in WW1.

I know what you're doing, Serbian politicians have since the 60s tried to make north-Albanians into Serbians because they didn't fulfil the stereotypes.
As the Croatian historian Ivo Banac pointed out in his seminal study The National Question in Yugoslavia, 'Not all Albanians could be expected to flee from their native homesteads,' when Kosovo was reconquered. 'As a result, Serbian propaganda simultaneously dehumanized Albanians, presenting them as utterly incapable of governing themselves and as the sort of element that ought to be exterminated, and elevated them to the standing that warranted their assimilation.'

>>72998793
if that's the case then no serbs have been albanianized, you can sleep peacefully tonight

>>72998768
ive been to kosovo and northern albania and we have ghegs here too, tall ones are a rarity, most of them are scrawny swarthy manlets

the only really tall albanian i know is from tirana(he's like 190cm or something)

>>72998915
Soon akhi.
>>72998928
>I worship a piece of wood

18:44 latas btfoing seljaks to outer space

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ63o-4yVnU

>>72998968
but anon, latas IS the seljak

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>>72998952
oohhh shit you got me man
how can i recover

>>72998927
No it isn't
A river makes much more sense than a fucking line
Transylvania is not Balkan, and it will never be.

>>72998952
>>72998915
>>72998858
>>>/mena/

>>72999010
You're also a Greek. It's like Allah really hates you and created you as both a Greek and a Christian.

>>72998968
Latas is why I lose the argument whenever Bulgars start arguing that we're infested with Serbomans

>>72998942

Not all Ghegs are treated equal.

You have Shqiptar Ghegs (short, dumbo ears), and then you have Albanized Serb Ghegs (tall, good looking)

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>>72999045
p-pls stop

>>72998936
Mendoj se po flet për lahuten.Lahuta a sjell këtu nga lindja në fakt. Origjinen e ka persiane

>>72999045
I'd commit suicide if i were Greek.
t. Kurd

>no
yes

I haven't been here for months
Update me on the memes

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why are turks always this serious
are they underage or really getting bumbothered over petty banter

>>72998936
>We don't, we have 2 strings
that's the "cifteli" a turkish instrument you borrowed.

The Gusle, or "Lahuta" (a italic loan word) is the one-stringed instrument you took from Serbs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAo68SJ9qgg

>>72999110
Ka ta di une i shkreti, Gusle me duket si fjal turke.

>>72999066
Like what are you trying to say. Genetically speaking serbs have a lot Dinaric genes. They don't have things in common with Slavs and then what?

>>72999161
We are not buttblasted
The word "Greek" (Rum, Yunan) is literally an insult in Turkey.

>>72999161
it's one newfag. we cool, yorgo.

>>72999176
Adress my other points as well. So far you have been dodging the question. What makes one Serbian, Culture or Race?

>>72999156
serbs and albanians are apparently the tallest people in the universe

average height for them is 2 meters(coincidentally it's also the average height of /balk/ posters))

>>72999226
ayyyy sqiptar, nga jeni?

>>72999260
>serbs and albanians are apparently the tallest people in the universe
all of them are 160 cm tall

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>>72999189
>Ka ta di une i shkreti, Gusle me duket si fjal turke.

Nuk eshte nje fjal turke. Gusle is a Slavic word for a bowed instrument. It is the proto-slavic instrument from Eurasia most closely related to other nomadic Steppe bow instruments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWYHh4T6E4U

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>>72999260
I am 1,75
what now

>>72999264
Mu pergjigj.

>>72999176
Çifteli is another word. "Dypejzsh or Dypejzë" is the other name and it's pure albanian, but it seems the çifteli was most used. Also, guitar/violin-like instruments are from Middle East and neither serbs or albanians can claim any

>>72999306
çifteli means "double strings" in Turkish

>>72999293
i guess i gotta use a ladder in order to reach the top shelf

DEATH TO WHITES
DEATH TO EUROPE
DEATH TO THE WEST

>>72999226
>Adress my other points as well. So far you have been dodging the question. What makes one Serbian, Culture or Race?

Language, Slava, Heroic culture and sense of honor (sacrifice in sake of principle)

>>72999373
That's a non-answer, Culture or Race?