Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1818

>>71740005
That's a relief to hear. Glad you're enjoying the series.
By the way, what is the difference between this volume 1:
http://books.rakuten.co.jp/rk/b7db215c30b937cfa32127a90287ec55/

and this volume 1:
http://books.rakuten.co.jp/rk/664d8131cbe5327aaa283d1d588c993d/

The newer version has せうかなめ listed as an illustrator as well as ue. These books don't have a whole lot of illustration so is one the cover artist and the other the insert image artist or something?

>>71764889
日本語ナウ

>personに会いました
is it always に and never を or と?

>>71767718
It's sometimes と as well.
Here's a discussion on the difference
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=851

>>71767718
https://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/5716916.html
>a. 私は友達と会いました
>b. 私は友達に会いました
>a. は I met with Bob at a post office. みたいな感じで、b. は I met Bob at the station. みたいな気がします。

What's the rules for using suru-verbs without suru?
E.g. 勉強は難しい。

>>71768257
They are nouns without する and should be treated as such in using sentence patterns.

>>71735436

bump

>>71768656
So my sentence is valid then? Or would I need する anyway?

>>71768758

could not より be applied in this case?

>>71768761

no you are good, just make sure you want the topic to be "studies". like just the noun itself, not the "act of doing it (studying)". hope that makes sense.

>>71769059
一週間に一日より勉強します。

I am studying less than once a week.

Is that it?

>>71769105
おこなの?wwwwwww

>>71769193
I meant

"I am studying less than a day per week"

>>71769193

Hmm, I don't know something seems awkward about that, though maybe I am just overthinking it. I am certainly no expert. Hopefully someone else will chime in soon. Present progressive with a ている attached might work better here as well, as you are talking about a methodical action.

Looking at jisho, maybe 以内 could work.. or even しか, however I know you want that "less" aspect stated.

>>71769193

Okay fuck, yeah より wouldn't make sense here sorry.

Maybe だけ could work here as well? However you still want that less than nuance...

>>71769059
>no you are good, just make sure you want the topic to be "studies"
yes, that's exactly what i wanted, thank you

>>71768761
>>71768257
I would leave the suru, so it would sound more like "(the act of) studying is hard."

勉強するの(こと)は難しい。

But I don't know, maybe the nuance shifts to it being hard to find the opportunity to study, instead of doing the thing in itself being hard.

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Japanese vocab isn't hard; it's just time consuming. Yes, that includes kanji.

Learning easy things is obviously easier on you, making the process more enjoyable. You make progress and feel good about it and yourself.

Learning harder things is uncomfortable, and you often have to really push yourself to do it. It's fuzzy and indirect and vague. Sometimes it's unclear if you're even making progress despite the immense effort you're putting in, it feels out of proportion and is thus frustrating. Some people react to being wrong by getting angry and annoyed - I would know, as I'm one of them.

However, we only TRULY get better at skills when we are forced to really struggle to get through. Skills that force us to go through this uncomfortable, really pushing it feeling are usually skills that are valuable in the end, as many are unwilling to even attempt to start learning them.

Yes it can seem inconsistent and bullshit, but it's still the easiest path to understanding. Grammar rules were written after the fact, weren't they? Yet, they summarize the patterns you would otherwise spend a LONGASS amount of time trying to absorb via input.

Burying your head in the sand of ONLY learning vocabulary isn't going to make it go away, it's procrastination.

>>71772830
Oh my fucking god, so that Australian cunt got replaced by a leaf? Just kill this fucking thread already.

>>71772830
ありがとうございます
な なくないで!

>>71773267
chill
motivationbros have been a staple part of djt since its inception

What this could mean ああんクチ?

>>71774898
>ああん
Usually means something like "open your mouth and say 'aaaah'" if a person is being fed or their mouth is being examined in some way.
>クチ
Obviously means "mouth" which fits the above. It's hard to give a more precise translation of the full phrase without better context.

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In ero material the guy often says something that is translated to English as "your body is honest."

What is he saying in Japanese? Like if you put it in kana.

>>71775153
>translated to English as "your body is honest."
the fuck am I reading?

the only thing I can think of is 本物 maybe, I think in anime they usually translate it with "the real thing" or something like that

>>71775405
He means when the girl is forced into sex and she puts up a front and tries to resist but her nipples are erect and her vagina's wet so the guy responds to her protests with something like "Even though you're saying 'no' your body is honest" or whatever because obviously she's physically aroused

>ワールドランク どうどうのさい(さえ?)

Do either of these sound right and make sense?

堂々の最 - The most impressive world ranker
堂々の才 - The most talented world ranker

Nothing sounds right if I assume どうどう is 同道.

>>71775405
>>71775153
found it. tyty

体は正直だね

>>71772830
I'm an Ankidrone and you can't make me change!

>>71775101
In context:
はあ弁士の姐さんも人形好きなの?
ああんクチ
映画の前は文楽の語りもやってて

>>71775858
I would say 堂々たる才(どうどうたるさい) that souds like written language and means "stately talent" or something, though.

Both 堂々の最 and 堂々の才 sounds weird and probably might not make any sense.

Please translate

もしユリウス様がいなかったら、こういう自責の念やもやもやした思いを誰かに一切吐き出せず、ミミにとっての生きる支えとなる人もいないってことなんだから、そりゃあラスボス化してもおかしくないよね……

>7-8 reps per minute
>started exercising
>12-15 reps per minute

I wonder if that is a pure coincidence or all the "sports increase your focus" talk was right

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>>71772830
がんばります!

>>71773267
http://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/7YgKf7TWpCo9djkeEBreQA/
モチノススメ has always been one of our leafy brethren.

Veteran here, learning kanji is impractical. I'm jealous to those who can actually speak Japanese. Despite being able to read mangas like Medaka Box-level, my speaking skill is shit.

>>71778675

How is your listening ability?

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am i ready to read 四叶妹妹 yet?

>>71779040
>average ease: 227%
>highest ease: 280%
what kind of memory do you have? holy shit

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>>71779040

>>71779174
the already knowing kanji type

>>71777128
I think it's just negative expression.

>>71777896
How long have you been doing Anki for? Might just be you're getting past the initial friction.

It also might have to do with the fact Core has "waves" where new kanji stop appearing and only new vocab with old kanji shows up.

Also, what is the schedule for physical exercises and Anki reps? Doing some exercise will definitely oxygenate your brain, though I don't think it's a long-term thing, it's more of a chemical afterburn. Unless you were obese and had a shitty health condition, case in which exercises will just restore your focus, not necessarily increase it that much.

>>71780726
A couple of months, exclusively mining my own cards, no premade deck (except for my custom radical deck).

More than 10 hours between exercise and anki.

>>71780877
Eh, then I don't know.
I'm pretty sedentary and I have an average of 7~8 reviews per minute, although my retention is fine.

The answer probably lies in military training. Maybe all that training is also supposed to give you better reflexes.

Hire a coach to slap you and psychologically shock you all the time, see if you can push it to 30 reps a minute.

>>71779020
I can understand pretty well on everyday conversations. I'm bad when it comes to math instructions..

What is ソコんとこ in standard Japanese?

Why is 袂 a thing

>>71781408
そこのところ
ん→の、とこ→所
https://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/3329884.html

>>71781741
Thanks. Is ソコんとこ very slangy, or is it just normal informal?

>>71781809
It's pretty slangy, yeah.

Just for clearing it up... I know you can write "Verb + koto" or "Verb + no" for shortening it, but "Verb + no + koto" is dame?

>>71775858
ランクの話をしているなら「堂々の3位」じゃない?

>>71782574
>3位
I think you're right. That makes way more sense than anything I had. 「堂々」はまだ少し変だが、ありがとう~

Please r8 and correct the following sentences:
>でも、映画はつまらなくて、長かった。そして、私たちは眠くて、寝た。
Can I use i-adjective inflection like that「眠くて、寝た」or is that wrong?

>>71783732
Or maybe this would be better:
>だから、私たちは眠くなって、寝た。

>>71768758
一回するかしないか
Maybe you can use this.

>>71784650
As in something like「勉強は一週間に一回するかしない」?
I was thinking about that question and came up with a handful of different answers but none of them sounded natural or fitted exactly what anon was after. It was frustrating.

>>71784988
I was thinking 勉強は週に一回するかしないかぐらいの程度です or something. I have to admit, I'm not entirely sure how to phrase it naturally.

There's always 勉強は週に多くても一回しかしない...

ねdjt起きる しゅまつは何しますか

>>71787577
オナニーしまくる

Does 電気労働者, translate to Electrician?

Not looking for 電気技師 because that's different.

Or is 技師 a word for workers as well as engineers?

>>71789733
Yes. 労働者 often has a meaning of social hierarchy.
Electrician is 電気技師 or 電気技術者 or 電気工.
技師 often shows an engineer who has high skill because 師 is teacher.
the way of speaking of 電気労働者 is rare.

>>71790036
Thank you, I've asked actual Japanese people this many times but never really get a clear answer and people always end up thinking I'm an engineer instead of a technician.

I'm probably going to go with 電気工 because it's the simplest to write/say if I need to.

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>>71790758
Is this it? Looks easy enough!

>inb4 combination sentence with many of these

>>71790796
Yeah, knowing grammar is 10% of the climb, 90% is dealing with multiple clauses intertwining and mentally solving ambiguities.

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>>71790796
Is that so? Good for you, my dude. I'm not quite at that level, I just posted this here so I could save it onto my laptop later. (Don't tell anyone shh)

>>71790976
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/JLPT_Guide

>>71765176
The second one is a コミックアライブ which means a manga adaptation of an LN. You'd probably want the 文庫 since well-written prose is far better than pretty pictures, at least in my opinion.

>>71791121
>since well-written prose is far better than pretty pictures, at least in my opinion
What is well-written prose in Japanese?

>>71791074
>hey this vocab list is small
>clicks on it
>ah that says go to あ

>>71790758
>まさか
まじで

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>>71791320
This LN

グラブルのキャンペーン、10万人に当たる!とか100万人に当たる!みたいなやつすら一度も当たったことがないから、1名様とか10名様とかはまったく希望を持てない(´･ω･`)

Global Campaign has hit 100,000 followers? Then 1 million? What's みたいなやつする一度も当たったことがないから though? And 1名様とか10名様とか?

>>71791856

Please translate. I really want to understand what you're saying.

>>71781416
Japanese thought that the soul would stay in 袂. So "袖を振る" means I will give you my heart.

Unmarried women wear long 袂 kimono = furisode so that she can 袖を振る very well. When a woman gets married and gets a husband, she does not have to 袖を振る to call to men anymore. So, she cut off the 袂 and begins to wear short 袂 kimono=tomesode. She leaves cut 袂 in parents, so 袂を分かつ=to divid 袂 means leaving parents, originally.

Today, we use 袂を分かつ to go on separate courses with a person who was together or a person who was doing something together.

By the way, if you say 袖「に」振る, it means "threw over a lover". Be careful the difference between 袖を振る and 袖に振る.

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>>71792372
pic related

>>71764889

This guy comes up to you and says he'll fuck you up.

Wot do?

>>71792683
Don't worry about it because he doesn't exist.

>>71792683
Who?

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>>71792683

forgot pic lel

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>>71792704
えーと、すいません、私は日本語よく話せません。それじゃ、バイバイー!

>Those who have passed either N1 or N2 (regardless of citizenship) are exempt from the Japanese language section of the middle school equivalency examination, which is required in order to enter a Japanese high school if the applicant did not graduate from a Japanese middle school.
>tfw you wouldn't have be able to go to a Japanese High School anyways back then
Really makes me think

>>71777896
It ain't. If I sit for 2 hours I start feeling a bit sickly. --> Do squats until I feel it and suddenly I'm able to focus twice as well.

>>71791856
>グラブル
Grand Blue Fantasy, a keitai game

>グラブルのキャンペーン、10万人に当たる!とか100万人に当たる!
Think of these phrases being in quotation marks.

"The GranBlue campaign (contest, lottery) has with 10,000 winners!" or "There are 100,000 winners!"
>みたいなやつ
means "or sth like that"
>すら一度も当たったことがないから、
I've never won it.
>1名様とか10名様とかはまったく希望を持てない(´･ω･`)
so I can't hold out hope for (a campaign with only) 1 or 10 winners

Put it all together:
I've never been chosen as a winner for any lotteries that have 10,000 or even 100,000 winners like a GranBlue campaign, so I've got no hope for a contest that only has 1 or 10 winners.

>レイプ
Is this rape or live? Is Rikaikun messing with me?

>>71793977
rape=レイプ=強姦
live=ライブ=生

live=生、生きる、住む

In the app imiwa

theres both JLPT and School grades that teaches you different kanjis.

Which do I approach? or does the order not matter as long as you eventually reach the 2500 kanji required?

>>71796774
stop downloading dumb gimmick apps and read the guide you faggot

>>71796774
jlpt is better.

>>71796889
imiwa is a dictionary app and its jlpt course follows remembering the kanji's order, what I'm asking if does order matter?

>>71796774
They're like almost the same anyways. Realistically School Grades is better because JLPT test shit was based on for exam questions.

>>71796968
>>71796935
thank you anons

Is there an easy way to type a small katakana tsu after a hiragana word? I am transcribing a mango and it happens ALL THE TIME.

Pressing Alt+CapsLock T T Backspace Enter Shift+CapsLock is kinda annoying.

>>71796939
If it's just a dictionary app what does it have to do with kanji order?

If you're using it to learn, then >>71796889
applies

>>71797299
I think it's something like xu or xtsu on the Google IME

Can't test it since I'm on my phone

>>71797425
Because what I was asking wasn't about the app, as you fussed about, I asked about the kanji order and would it matter if you learn all 2k+ of them in order or not

I use imiwa dictionary so I could atleast study offline as it has stroke orders and readings

>>71797299
xtu
ltu

When adding through Rikaisama, can I add the phrase in which the word is in? Do you think cards with the original context are more or less effective? I'm a bit worried I would just memorize the actual phrase and not the word, but at the same time doing reps of pure dictionary vocab sounds a bit... weird.

>>71799038
That's why you have to create your own sentences and speak with other anons in Japanese

>>71799705
>you have to create your own sentences
What do you mean? If you mean "mined by me" that's exactly what I'm asking.

>tfw you were able to translate a complete sentence from a youtube video at 0.5x speed

>>71800171
almost there anon!

Copying my post from /jp/ as wasnt aware of the etiquette and that I should post here instead!

>tfw lived in Japan for nearly 2 years, and just landed myself a university teaching position.

My Japanese is still useless, I failed N5 shortly after I moved here and never tried again, now I want to start properly studying again, would be nice to get to at least N4/N3 someday. I can do daily life Japanese but cannot hold a conversation and grammer just destroys me. Any tips you lovely people?

>>71802239
>grammer

>>71802239
Check the resources in the OP. You can also try getting some JLPT prep books from your local Book Off. They're pretty good for grammar and vocab. Flip through the books in the 日本語能力試験 or whatever section (it's near the 英語/TOEIC section) and find one that looks good to you.

What are you going to teach?

>>71802305

Fuck. In my defence, I am sleepy.

>>71802330

Hate to be a stereotype, but English. Most of my coworkers are N3/N2 so I got very lucky, hence my desire to raise my level from the current pitiful state as starting to get horribly settled in this country.

Was only planning to be here a year!

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>>71802239
>lived in Japan for nearly 2 years
>would be nice to get to at least N4/N3 someday
sorry man but what the fuck were you doing for the last 2 years?

>>71802393
How did you get a job at a university? Connections?
Anywho, best of luck, tomod8.

>>71802415

Studying German mate, hopefully taking B1 this summer. But might hold off if I am shifting the focus to Japanese for a bit.

You have a lovely language.

>>71802435

Connections, and right place at the right time I guess.

Found this course for the price of a Dominos Pizza, worth looking into anons?

https://www.udemy.com/japanese-n5-course/

Come on man, really? This is as bad as linking wanikani.

>>71802450
why did you go to japan in the first place?

あそこにパトカーがいる.
いる?

Am I missing something here?

Is there a kanji trace software?

大辞林 or 大辞泉 lads?

>>71802489
>N5

I'm sure you could pass this if you just watch enough anime.

out of curiosity why use 「は」 instead of 「わ」?

when 「わ」 is the one thats pronounced as 'wa'

>>71804495
I don't know the context, but I'm assuming they are talking more about the police officers in the car and not the actual car

>>71772830
You don't motivate anyone, you just make yourself look like a fool.

>>71804495
Referring to moving cars, trains and such with いる is pretty common. It's not wrong.

is it wise to learn both Kunyomi and Onyomi at once when learning an individual kanji?

>>71797455
>>71797746
That makes it hiragana, dudes.

>>71805889
ltu F7

>>71805917
>F7
Well that's a neat little trick. Nice.

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青姦

>>71806015
Is that like passing out outside after a heavy night of drinking and coming to with your hand buried in your undies?

>>71805917
NOICE! Is there a place where I can read all these sorts of secret shortcuts? I know F8 turns stuff into half-width katakana, too. There should be a shortcut for inserting tenten/dakuten into kanas or as standalone glyphs, too.

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>>71806157
I guess it depends on the IME, but with Google IME you can find an editable list of keyboard shortcuts in the settings.

>>71805917
>>71806008
btw, how do you make that 々

>>71806357
くりかえし works on Google IME.

>>71806357
"onaji", "kurikaesi"

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>>71806373
>>71806378
thanks

>>71805917
>F7

How the fuck have I lived all these years without knowing about that?
Thanks.

>>71806357
>>71806373
I got into the habit of typing 佐々、as in ささ, because it's faster for me.

>>71807820
*as in ささき (the name)
Things like 丸々・まるまる also the same.

What does お腹周り refer to?

>>71808245
The waist.

>>71805662
>>71805050
Noted. Thanks.

>>71808367
It doesn't mean near or around your belly?

>>71808575
Yeah, it does. Just figured people would refer to that as the waist most of the time, at least colloquially. But I guess technically, waist would be slightly off.

>>71808575
お腹周りは、お臍の部分だし、ウエストは、腰のベルトを締める部分です。
引用:
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1381759578

Hey guys, is there a way to have a bunch of random different fonts for your anki cards?

I'm running into this annoying problem online where I don't initially recognize the kanji until I use rikaisama, and then realize I actually know it.

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does djt have yellow fever? I sure do

even had it before I got into anime and japan stuff, it's probably one of the reasons why I got into it

Ive heard fluency takes around 4 years at a decent pace
How long does reaching N3 or N2 take?
My uni has exchange programs but you need to be at atleast that level

>>71813486
yeah but I want my kids to look like me

>>71813593
you could be n3 ready by october

>>71813613
b-but eurasians are the future

神様 wills it

>>71813628
Nice, I think it might take me longer since studying is proving to be quite hard, but hopefully I can get into the program for 5th and/or 6th semester

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feels good having won anki

>>71813687
Well if we're going to go /pol/ in here, then yeah I agree, Asians, Whites, and happas are based.

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Rate

>Use HelloTalk for a bit
>Pretty fun, lots of nice people
>Some 40-ish woman starts talking to me
>Converse politely, stop replying for a few weeks because I'm busy
>Suddenly get three messages from her telling me to come homestay at her house some time
Fucking creeps, geez.

>>71815167
yup that's a kanji

I don't know if it's my 50% retention, but anki seems to hang for a second every time I get an answer right, as if to mock me.

>>71815316
That'd be dope my dude

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>>71813486
No although I'm not averse to asian women. I just find it a bit creepy when it's the first thing someone latches onto.

An asian girl started working in the IT department at work, and a goblin there immediately started fawning over her and bragging about how she would be his girlfriend. As far as I know, he hasn't actually talked to her yet and she's married anyway. She's a nice enough person and I've worked on a few projects with her. But I find it kinda stalkerish to want to be with someone just because they're from a different country or based on some idea of what kind of people they are.

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>>71816363
>a goblin there immediately started fawning over her and bragging about how she would be his girlfriend.
bullshit, no one actually does that

>田中さんは?
>ちかれスパーです。 (「ちかれ」って何の意味?) 今日は四人読んでいたんですが、全員ノックアウトしてしまいそうないきよいなので 新しい相手の手配をしていたんです。

Audio:
http://www35.zippyshare.com/v/agaW8V0A/file.html

I might have some of the line written wrong but generally understand everything except ちかれ or じかれ or ちがへ or whatever the hell it is. My best guess is that it's some form of 近い that I don't know but that doesn't make much sense. Any better ideas?

>>71816363
just because I get a bigger boner with a qt azn grill doesn't mean that this is the only thing I'm interested in

anyway, people wouldn't call a guy creepy if he was into blond chicks, shallow yes, but not creepy

>見物なら他にもえ? 観に来たわけじゃない?
I can't understand, what mean 観に来た?

>>71818005
Come to look. (Verb stem) + に来る is "come to (verb)", just like に行く is "go to (verb)".

勉強しに来る - Come to study
買いに行く - Go to buy
etc.

How important is it to learn the name kanjis in the beginning? Do kids do that too? Well I guess they don't actually they always write their names in kana. So when do they learn them? Middle?

>>71819354
If your going to deviate from the guide, what's your gameplan?

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There is クチ or ケチ?

>>71819678
>クチ
As in 口
"Ahhh open up"

>>71819852
It's not appropriate to the context

>>71819959
What's the context?

>>71819426
Haha fuck the guide, this is language learning. I learn whatever as I go. Guess that answers that.

>>71820025
I was only curious bro, chill

My favourite part of learning japanese is discovering how you can use the windows IME to write a bunch of normally hard-to-access characters. Like greek scientific symbols etc and even emojis. Just type おっけー and hit space a few times and bam- suddenly you got the cheesiest emoji of them all:

>>71813486
I appreciate cuteness/delicateness over hotness/voluptuousness, so, even though I don't have "yellow fever", the average Asian appeases to me more than the average Western.
Throw in their morally-aligned culture and there's a mix I can appreciate.

And lately I've been kinda impressed at how fast white people age, my family must hold some life elixir or something to not be like that. I shan't produce offspring with potentially precocious elders.

>>71813593
N3? 1 year doing the right exercises.
Fluency takes 1 year of immersion (plus 1 of studying kanji). If you can't immerse yourself, 3~4 years seems like a decent amount of time if you keep going steadily.

>>71815167
Noice. But the 三 bit is too symmetrical.

>>71815316
>not wanting a free visa
All you have to do is divorce afterwards. Even better if she's not that serious about it.

>>71820232
>emoji
Garbage. But I appreciate being able to kaomoji. Type ureshii or kanashii and they pop up, it's cool. Even hoshi for !

Should one do more than just use anki to learn vocabulary?
I feel like just recalling the meaning will mean that I wont be able to speak or write at all

>>71820829
>free visa
I'm a chick, that's not gonna work out in Japan. I'm guessing it's just a lonely lady with no children or something.

>>71821102
>I'm a chick
Plot twist! Come to Brazil!

But woah, now that's sad.
Hope miss Hanako gets hugged at least once before she dies.

>>71821102
ロンドン
ン
ド
ン

>>71821303
No one wants to go to Brazil

>>71805029
Grammar.

>>71813486
No, but I am married to a Japanese.

>>71820968
Depends if you read Japanese on a daily basis, if you do then you should search up and note down every kanji you come across. Of course in moderation.

>>71822500
I mean as a beginner

1)家族の人といい関係を作っていくのには何が必要でしょうか。「家族問題」からの例と他の例をあげながら書いてください。

2)自分の家族関係と「家族問題」の内容を比べて例をあげながら書いてください。

3)人との関係で問題があったことがあれば、なぜそうなったのか説明し、どうやって問題をなくそうとしたか(またはしなかったか)、どんな結果になったか、そして「家族問題」からの人間関係問題に解決方法として使えるかどうかを書いてください。

can someone help me translate this?

>>71822850
Do your own homework, Stephen.

>>71822850
1) Having a hot sister and hot mother
2) When my mom wants dick while my sister wants dick and they fight, but they want my dick so its good
3) Abortion

>>71822986
>>71823059
thanks bros

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>>71819959
https://my.mixtape.moe/dcctmy.webm

>>71823306
That's inappropriate.

>>71815167
It kind of looks like you're drawing really slow and carefully. You should be able to manage the whole thing in under 5 seconds

>>71823306
Holy shit, MC has a very nice and distinct voice to her, it just went a few positions up in my backlog.

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>>71823811
all of them sound really typical though

>>71823926
Have you watched much anime?

>>71824093
yea, but usually I don't watch stuff moe shit

>>71824231
You don't usually watch "moe" stuff but know what sounds "typical"? Fair enough.

>>71821340
this tbqh senpai

>>71824304
oh I'm "sorry" that I'm not an experienced moe "expert" like you

Is this sentence correct?

「これはべんです」
This is a pen

「これはべんですだ」
This IS a pen

>>71824480
Are you trolling senpai?

>>71823306
Huh, what episode is this from? I don't remember this scene.

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>>71824480
oh fugg

this is a ben

>>71824518
>>71824628
I-i really mean t pen ;___;

Has anyone ever generated a kanji grid from the start of their studies to the very end, and created an animation of that filling up? I was comparing a grid of mine from today with one I made last week and it occurred to me that I'd like to see something like that.

>>71824884
Probably. Time to dig through github or make a program yourself.

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>>71823926
Nah, the MC has a more raspy/bratty voice that shines through, while the others have more stereotypical, industry-standard voices for their cookie-cut roles.

Not to say the MC isn't an archetype as well, but her voice adds some flavor, like, say Konata or Misao in Lucky Star.

>>71824518
>>71824628
but is my usage of 'da' proper?

>>71825377
No cause you don't use "desu" and "da" together, "desu" is formal language and saying something is so using "da" is considered rough and informal.

Read some tae kim mate.

>>71825522
I did and I tried to write my own sentence, which resulted in that abomination

thanks anon

>>71825578
No problem, I can't write my own sentence for shit either if that cheers you up.

>>71825578
>>71825652
You are but children.
Check this
「犬が好き」

>>71816717
「地下でスパー」
Imaging from the word 'knock-out', Tanaka is sparring of the boxing under the ground.

>>71822651
Oh, I thought I was doing beginner stuff. So does that make me intermediate?

Anyone else have extreme difficulties in absorbing information from textbooks when they're on their PC? I don't know what it is but I can't do it.

voice actor's voice can often be heard for me hardly.

>>71825853
Same here I've spent more than I like on textbooks.

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>>71825853
too many mind

>>71824480
Tohoku dialect in the 17th century
んだんだ ペンですだ

>>71825748
地下で was one of my guesses, but the sparring room has huge windows in it. It is not underground.

But I see that 地下 can also mean secret (秘密) the same way it can in English. That makes a little sense here, so if you hear that too, you're probably right. ありがとう

>>71825853
Maybe it's because ink has the properties of knowledge in them unlike pixels.

Starting tomorrow I'll have 24/7 time to learn nip and I plan to study around 6-9 hours a day.
So I've been wondering, should I try to learn more grammar after tea Kim or simply do Anki all day long? (At the moment I'm at 2k cards)

>>71827470
do both, personally, I'm going for 30 kanji in three days time and I study grammar in between

>>71827470
You're gonna burn the fuck out. Get something else to do too. Obviously you should learn more grammar after Tae Kim, that's just merely the basics. Anki can only be done so much before your retention fails, don't go above 150. What you should really be doing is focus on grammar and reading already.

>inb4 don't even know hiragana and katakana yet

>>71827470
If you know Tae Kim WELL, you can read pretty much anything given you can hover unknown words.

So I'd suggest googling (in Japanese) for grammar points you don't understand and going from there.

If it looks too advanced, then maybe you could grind Tae Kim a bit more before advancing.

Sad thing is it takes at least 6k words/1,5k kanji before you can actually start reading without relying so much on translations.

>Anki all day long
Don't do this, a 30~40 limit is enough, you should read more instead.

Personally, if I had all the time in the world, I would do a mining deck instead of sticking with Core, it was my weapon of choice just because I couldn't bother preparing my own material back then.

>>71827626
>don't go above 150

Are you saying don't go above learning 150 cards?

>>71827853
I meant don't go above 150 new cards in a day. I did that, I used to go for 300. It killed me later.

>>71827626
>>71827644
Burning out isn't going to be a problem, I can force myself through literally everything while learning. I've only 6 weeks worth of free time, so I want to learn as much nip as possible in that time.

So what I get from both of your posts is
>create a mining deck, read more and grind grammar.
Should be easy enough to plan a schedule around that, thanks for the help.

>>71828118
I don't know, anon you might fail. The way you're approaching this is so systematic. Have fun with it anyways though.

>>71828058
Jesus, and here I am struggling with 20 news cards a day with my shit retention. Only have like an hour and a half to study a day though.

>>71828118
>I've only 6 weeks worth of free time, so I want to learn as much nip as possible in that time.
The issue is: after these 6 weeks are over, you will still have reps to do.

Unless you intend freezing your new cards for a while, this will bit you back ugly, that's why I don't recommend going full-Anki.

Otherwise, good luck! If you want to optimize your efficiency, do Anki in spread bursts of 30 minutes, put some breaks in-between where you watch/listen to some stuff to relax (in Japanese).

Read about the Pomodore method, might interest you since you seem disciplined.

What does 私だから mean in ミーティングに参加するのは私だからね?

Is it like "I'm the one who said xxx"?

>>71828669
I have found it to work best when you refresh every hour or so. You'll no doubt remember 20 by the end of the day if you do this. I did this for instance when each time I would mess around, I would make sure to review my kanji/vocabulary/whatever for the day first then do x thing. Takes like a few minutes. Did this every time, and it kept me productive while messing around as well. Every one might not have that luxury of review time though.

>>71829380
>I'm the one who xx
This.

>>71829818
Yeah, I can incorporate that. Thanks anon.

>>71828118
You do realise you have to keep studying or using Japanese if you want to actually retain any of that shit you learn, right?

>>71830362
On this note, how many of you who have achieved reasonable fluency/writing/reading practice?

What exactly does it take to retain?

>>71830422
6 hours of anime daily

>>71830422
That's like asking what does it take to retain your english writing/speaking/reading skills. It's exactly the same.

>>71830514
English is my native language, my ability to speak English far far surpasses my ability to speak Japanese.

>>71830445
Thanks doc.

>>71827470
Read DoJG. All of it.

>>71830640
Is this even helpful at beginner level? Do they retain anything?

>>71830738
I wouldn't recommend it but if you're actually studying 9 hours in a day then you might as well change it up and read some grammar too.

>>71830422
Around 500 hours of comprehensible listening to get pretty good, around 1000 for fluency.

Then another 1000 hours of reading at your level to get good enough language knowledge for proficiency.

>>71831598
But to retain that afterwords?

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What's the idea of this とも-ending?

>>71831636
Retention isn't hard when you're already good at the language. Like sure you'll get worse but you won't suddenly not be able to understand basic sentences like after that year or two of spanish in high school

>>71831828
>Like sure you'll get worse but you won't suddenly not be able to understand basic sentences like after that year or two of spanish in high school
>tfw it was recommended to take three years
>said fuck that
>don't remember spanish at all anymore

>>71831752
I think it just means "of course" and is used there for emphasis.

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>>71831871
One more:
What's the meaning of the highlighted phrase?
"It's no good they are so difficult to control"?

>>71831844
It's okay I just said two as an example i also took 3 years and don't remember shit

>>71829818
Can someone translate this?

>>71831828
>>71832222
Dude, again? Punctuation. This is not Twitter, we actually try to communicate in here.

Actually... now that I think about it, you write just like my raw mango, with no pauses and letting me at the mercy of context. It's like you're secretly trying to help me!

Thanks, anon!

>>71832430
Maybe jst get better at english and it wnt btother you as much

>>71832430
>we actually try to communicate in here.
In that case drop the "Actually... ". It's pointless filler that one would utter during conversation when stalling for time to gather their thoughts and has no place in written messages.

>>71832560
Or for emphasis/description.

>>71832080
I believe so.
どうも(操作)やりにくい
(それは)いけない

>>71832971
Thanks!

Can anyone attest to the quality of this deck?

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1434910726

>>71834172
>https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1434910726
Rating seems good enough, just try it out, not like you can go wrong with learning Japanese.

>>71834172
just looking at the sample cards my main issue would be that transitivity isn't marked in any way for verbs especially considering it's aimed at beginners

just making the cards を洗う (transitive) and がつく (intransitive) instead would be a huge improvement. i think even jisho marks transitivity, so if i were to use the deck i would manually look it up and add を or が to all verbs.

when i review my oldest cards that i haven't made like this i edit them and add が/を even if i'm 100% sure about whether it's transitive or not simply because i found marking it helped a lot in getting a feel for the verb.

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>tfw to smart too remember the correct moonrunes

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Is it kurai or gurai? GoogleDocs underlines 一時間ぐらい red.
Or is it just like fun/bun/pun stuff?

I can't read oshiete.goo.ne.jp .

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is there anything like the djt kana page that i can download?

i looked at the resources and "hiragana and katakana with audio and stroke animations" anki deck seems closest, but the description leaves out romaji which is kinda important. the "just kana" deck doesn't say anything about audio, which is also important. and the "hiragana with stroke diagrams and audio" on ankiweb doesn't mention anything about katakana.

what should i do, lads?

>>71838499
You can use the DJT Kana page offline. Download the offline archive from the front page.

> 開く
> 開ける
What's the difference?

>>71836665
Both work

>>71838678
Some weird Japanese concept silly gaijins cannot understand.

I'm serious.

>>71838678
the door opened and he came out of the room
he opened the door and went out of the room

the Japanese can't learn the usage of "open" since it looks exactly the same

>>71839455
So this difference is the same for 閉める and 閉まる too?

intransitive verb and transitive verb

転がる/転がす
飛ぶ/飛ばす

Is it possible to see the full list of kanji by frequency that Rikaikun shows?

what's the difference between 閉める and 閉じる

Not sure if there is a japanese equivalent to the english 'are', but is this sentence correct?

きみは友達だよ

for

You ARE/IS friend!

>>71839688
I was just kidding. definitely you meant the difference between "hiraku" and "akeru", not "aku" and "akeru", right?

akeru can be used only transitive meanwhile hiraku can be used intransitive besides transitive. basically both mean open.

//hiraku intransitive
open

//hiraku transitive
1.undo/unpack/unseal/unfold
2.start/begin/set up/found/establish etc
3.give/hold e.g. give[hold] a party

//akeru
1.open
2.unlock
3.pull aside/draw (the curtains)

閉じる is the same type between intransitive verb and transitive verb.
開く is similar. (in the case of not ひらく but あく)

for example, 笑う is also similar type.
私は笑う intransitive varb
彼を笑う transitive varb

>>71840728
>>71840762
ok then, thanks guys

>>71840728
>hiraku transitive
first, this is used like open too, as a matter of course.

>>71826290
you're welcome :)
you have very good ears.
I wonder how that story is.

>>71840444
still combining particles, words into sentences, would appreciate it lads

What does the なに mean in なに堂々と嘘こいてんだよ

Will I fuck up the Spaced Repetition thing if I do my reps in the morning and "review forgotten cards today" before going to sleep?

>>71844524
なに~してんだよ/なにを~してるのですか is a set phrase.

なに遊んでんだよ。
なにをいい加減なことしているのですか。

that means 'to blame someone'.

In the first place, I answer you this thing.
I'm going to think about the detail just now.

http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/164493/meaning/m0u/
2［副］

I think the way of an adverb written in this site is close.
though, it looks like that it is not the same completely.

日本人でわない

or

日本人じやない

>>71846940
Neither. Either 日本人ではない or 日本人じゃない.

>>71846962
sorry I used an online keyboard

but what exactly is the difference between ではない and じゃない

>>71847021
They mean the same thing. では's pronunciation became じゃ over time. The former is what you primarily use in the literary language and in formal settings. The latter is used in more casual settings and in the spoken language.

>>71847021
The same one between is not and isn't.

whats the absolute easiest piece of shit vn i could read?

>>71847188
>>71847202

That makes much more sense, as I heard it from a movie and got confused when Algren said "I am not Japanese" and said "ではない" instead of じゃない

thank you

in the similar way, ては becomes ちゃ.

食べてはいけない→食べちゃいけない

>>71847525
なぜ

I noticed that alot of kanjis will have an onyomi reading of kou,cho,chou, jo and the likes and will only have variations in its kunyomi, would it be best to skip the onyomi if this is the case?

>>71847624
"why"?
do you ask about a reason of a casual tone?

>>71847775
>would it be best to not learn how to read?
I don't know m8

>>71847775
Beginners should not be allowed to know what onyomi or kunyomi are until they've learned a few thousand words.

>>71847775
Seems like you're learning out of context. Learn words, not readings.

>>71847844
>>71847899
>>71848066
Checked.

Yeah my bad, got really confused with the mew batch

Does 整理現象 mean something or is it simply a misspelling of 生理現象?

>>71849416
Yes

>>71849416

It's a misspelling.

○生理現象
×整理現象

>>71849470
ありがとう~

>>71849489

いいえ~
分からないことあったら何でも聞いてくださいね~

Please translate

ユリウス様のところでジョナサンくんを独り占めできて、
ちょっぴりサラは幸せに思っていたんです

>>71852713
like

Since me Sarah could monopolize Jonathan at the house/place of Lord/Majesty Julius, I have been feeling like a bit happy

Anywhere I can find manga scripts? Tried searching for some with 漫画 セリフ attached but nothing comes up.

Tried adding a new word on Google IME, but the grammatical specifications are all in Kanji and so little I can't even read them.

wat do

>>71856023
Look up the kanji

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>>71856269
You don't understand. This is too much for my monkey brain.

Guys, how do I un-suspend a card? I accidentally suspended one months ago and forgot about it, and I don't know how to undo it.

>>71858773
Open the card browser, click "suspended", select the card, click the "suspend" button (there should be a square surrounding the pause symbol).

>>71857446
It is for Japanese word registration to the app, and looks troublesome in all kinds of ways. So I do definitely not use the function.

>>71857446
Post a few example words you want to add.
It is easier than you think, I'll show you how.

Does this thread exist solely for a normie translation blog purposes?
GO BACK TO 2CHAN FUCKING J A P S

>>71859425
I gave up adding them (it was yesterday) and now I'll have to come across them again in order to remember what they were.

So let's just suppose I want to add a few fictitious words:

I want "kamaku" to be a 雷く verb.
I want "anonimosu" to be a 亜乃2燃素 common noun.
And I want "desutorakushon" to be an apocalyptic proper name "電嵐風噴爆破滅", in the style of Armaggedon or Ragnarok.
Also I want "sakana" to output this |><>°ºO

That should cover it all.

Also, if I want to say 電嵐風噴爆破滅的 later on, will it recognize the made-up compound if its base form was added in the library?

>>71840444
>きみは友達だよ
>for
>You ARE/IS friend!
Yes, though with no subject or further indications, it can be assumed to be "You are my friend."

>>71861590
Okay, give me a moment. I'm writing up a quick guide with translations for the entry categories.

>>71862000
>tfw no one will ever say きみは友達だよ to you

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>>71862562
君は友達だよ~