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"I need the assault rifles to protect myself from a tyrannical gov..."
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Should we make it easy on the state, then? Bow down? Go down without a fight? Become a slave? Fuck no.
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They do help, look at the Bundy and georgian standoff

These federalist fascists fear a people that can shoot back.


make no mistake
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>>55100708
>Should we make it easy on the state, then? Bow down? Go down without a fight? Become a slave? Fuck no.

You think you're free now, you think you're not a slave?
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>>55100745
>They do help, look at the Bundy and georgian standoff
>These federalist fascists fear a people that can shoot back.
>make no mistake

it will only lead to more blood shed, govt will always have more and better guns, you will always lose, govt knows this and just don't want to slaughter you dumb fuckers
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>SURRENDER YOUR MUSKETS TO THE BRITISH EMPIRE
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>>55100708
> Should we make it easy on the state, then? Bow down? Go down without a fight? Become a slave? Fuck no.

why are all gun freaks a bunch of romantical anarchists?Shouldnt you use those guns to defend against any invaders rather than assraping your own government?
You do realize that makes you the exact definition of a terrorist right?Where is your struggle for democracy
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>>55100598
You need to worry about those Apaches mate, they'll fuck your shit up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaufhZv84Gk
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there is no any opposition in th USA
they are swimming on the bottom of lakes and rivers with stones on the necks
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>>55101732
lvl3 vs lvl250
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>>55100598
>the shed where they control uavs is down the road
>all you need is a baseball bat to disable it
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>>55101641
>SURRENDER TO THE KHAN
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>>55101849
implying the shed wouldn't be guarded by riflemen
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>40 million registered gun owners in America
>300 million+ firearms in circulation in America

>American military has 1.3million active personnel, 1.7 if you include reserves
>that's assuming every serviceman sucks Obongo's cock and follows through with martial law instead of going AWOL

>b- b- but jets and tanks!!
>implying American freedoms haven't granted us access to anti-material and explosive weaponry
>implying no one knows how to make DIY explosives
>implying the gov't would be willing to use such ordinance on the people it needs and the infrastructure it needs
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>>55100598

>Drones can enforce non assembly orders
>M1 Abrahams tanks can be used for searching houses
>Jet Fighters can be used for seizing firearms
>The American militairy with all it's technological gadgets has never been BTFO'd by IEDs and irregular combatants

Why do you people never make an effort?
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>>55100598
>what is vietnam
>what are muslim insurgents
>thinking the vast majority of the us army wouldn't defect and join the people in an all out slaughter war against civilians


You Yuropoors are massive feminine faggots, so I'm not surprised that the idea of defending yourself from an opposing tyrannical force seems foreign to you. Better spread your asshole for refugee cock like your women
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>>55101905
Why are Americans dreaming about civil war?
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>>55101894
>riflemen

That's where the 2A kicks in m80
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you realise the armed forces don't actually like Obama right?
the American state wouldn't survive a civil war
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>>55101947
>OP
>European
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>>55101975
We're not. That's my response to "hurr wuts a Glock gonna do to a tank hurr no point in fighting back durr"
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>>55101947
>Better spread your asshole for refugee cock like your women

lol how's your left wing liberal president working out, canacuck?
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>>55101905
>>implying American freedoms haven't granted us access to anti-material and explosive weaponry

Not really though.. BAFTE regulations require tax stamps and registration for all launchers and all projectiles that contain explosive warheads.

>>implying the gov't would be willing to use such ordinance on the people it needs and the infrastructure it needs

This is the real problem. I doubt the US government is going to convince ALL US serivicement that they have to blow up mr. and mrs. America to keep America safe.
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>>55100598
If rifles are useless against the government because they have drones, why are they trying to ban them?
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>>55101947

Lol, weed.
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>>55102055
Because they keep killing children in schools and innocent people in general, probably.

Gun freaks are scary af
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>>55102039
You can still get it, you just need to jump over a lot a hurdles and have the money.
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Doesn't the National Guard have all sorts of stuff, up to and including jet fighters? Aren't they more likely to be the guys putting up a fight against the Feds should things come to that?
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>>55102034
>A fucking limey brit
>from a country that encouraged Rotherdam
>calling other nationalities cucks
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>>55101905

you would look like syria.
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>>55101975
Maybe because they've already had one so far so they know it can happen.
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Friendly predator missile inbound
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>>55102100
More people die in the US by car or drowning than firearm. Shall we ban automobiles and pools?
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>>55100598
>using drones on your own population
>expecting entire military to put up with the government targetting their families and such

Fuck off ATF
>>55102100
Switzerland, Finland, Sweden all have plenty guns

England has less and move violent crimes

your argument is invalid
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>>55100598
Well duh, how else you are able to make heat seeking assault rifles?
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>>55102122
rotterdam's in holland mate

also your tax money literally pays for royal visits to canada lol. pretty sad how you still ride our dicks because it's the only semblance of culture and history you have
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>>55102100
Why not use the drones to kill the gun freaks who use rifles to kill children and innocent people then?
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>>55100598
Can't civilian actually attach a dynamite stick to one of those and have a killer drone of his own?
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>>55102109
>You can still get it, you just need to jump over a lot a hurdles and have the money.

And then they'll be registered... I know it's possible, but I doubt the privately owned explosives and anti-material weapons will be very siginificant in the Great Happening. If anything weapons and equipment captured from militairy/national guard bases will be relevant on the greater scale of things.
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>>55102200
>rotterdam's in holland mate

>In Britain, this is a valid response to someone clearly referring to Rotherham

Kek.. How many was it again? 1400?
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>not running over CIA niggers with your car all day every day
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>>55102157
>England has less and move violent crimes

Anglos are savages. Guns don't kill people, Anglos do.
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>>55102349
tiny thermonuclear charge!
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You people keep talking about soldiers defecting, but have you ever thought of civilians joining the government side which is far more possible?
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>>55102157

It's funny how clueless retards keep parroting this when it's been debunked countless times. We classify "violent crimes" differently.

http://rayrayallday.com/2013/01/11/the-difference-between-us-uk-violent-crime-rates-depends-on-definition-of-violent-crime/
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>>55102357
My dear boy, when I spoke of the 300 million firearms in circulation, I was speaking of legal channels. Imagine how many weapons there are through private sale and black market means. Also, there is a plethora of explosives and anti-material weaponry amongst the civilian population. A lot of it is illegally owned though because of said hurdles and costs. I know of a man who snuck 40mm grenades and his M79 back into the US from his time in Vietnam.
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>>55102529
>muh blog trying to prove UK is better than US

Just stop, that isn't even related to my post
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>>55102529

Doesn't change the fact that Britain is one of the most violent states in Western Europe.. If not THE most violent one..
>Unironically having knife crime epidemics..
Israel-tier.
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This whole self-defense against the government notion is just a giant guilt trip/fantasy.

Americans should just be honest, there's only two reasons to own a gun; either you live in a black neighborhood or you just like guns cause they're cool. I don't think the latter is illegitimate, but I find it funny how Americans refuse to admit they just like owning guns cause they're cool and have to pretend it's some last resort safety measure in case the government becomes full 1984. [Fat load of good will a good do you when the government wants you dead]
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>>55100598
>just because the government has drones everyone should be completely defenseless
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>>55102509
This. A "tyrannical government" cannot exist without support from part of the population.
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>>55102593
Yes, goyim. Just give in and let it happen.
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>>55102586
Still beats being irrelevant tier like the neverlands.
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>>55102593
>Fat load of good will a good do you when the government wants you dead

So what do you suggest, laying there and taking it?

And yes guns are cool
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>>55102531
>My dear boy, when I spoke of the 300 million firearms in circulation,
Weren't we speaking of explosives, anti-material equipment and destructive devices?
>I was speaking of legal channels. Imagine how many weapons there are through private sale and black market means.
Can you give an estimation of the amount of anti-tank weapons in US circulation? Because I somehow doubt that there are very many...
>Also, there is a plethora of explosives and anti-material weaponry amongst the civilian population. A lot of it is illegally owned though because of said hurdles and costs.
'A lot'.... Any more specific estimates?
>I know of a man who snuck 40mm grenades and his M79 back into the US from his time in Vietnam.

So at least 1 elderly man has possession of an outdated anti-infantry explosive launcher and a handful of old grenades that might or might not fire, and will definitely be useless against even lightly armored modern US militairy vehicles.
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>>55102628
Yes goyim, keep killing whiteys with easily accessible guns hehehe
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>>55102631

Just let it flow through you m80
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>>55102509
If the enemies they are going to fight are neither the enemy soldiers nor police loyal to government, then who?
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Drones can't patrol the streets and enforce the rule of law. Drones can't kick down your doors and search your home for contraband.

You fucking moron.
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>>55102645
I suggest that, you know, you could spare yourself 10k annual deaths to gun violence instead of having guns available for the offchance that in a doomsday scenario you'll feel like a real tough man when you shoot one of the police officers raiding your home before you're killed.

>And yes guns are cool

That's pretty much it, I've never seen an American be pro-gun but at the same time respect them as the killing machine that they are. They basically just worship them instead of being disgusted by them and viewing them as a truly last resort tool. Gun "culture" in America is dishonest.
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>>55102739
But mechanical AI robot dogs can.
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>>55100598
If those work so well, why is ISIS still in the Middle East
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>>55102742

>Israelis talking about 'dishonest cultures'

I've seen it all.
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>>55102867

not enough
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>>55102867
Allah is with them.
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>>55102945
We have used so many bombs that the military is afraid we will run out.
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>>55102742
Your argument would make sense if criminals could be reliably shut down from getting unregistered firearms and you couldn't replace those school shootings with something pointy being poked into students

And no they have plenty of reasons, for one firearms work as a deterrent, this is true no matter how you try to put it, that most of them are 2 dumb to form a coherent thought is another thing.

Also take it from someone living in a country that is anti gun, having to jump through 10000 hoops and paying out the ass just for the right to own a hunting rifle (obviously at all times in its cuckshed) while any government cronie can file for an automatic, is not the way things should be done
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>>55100598
You support Ukraine for the justice, please.
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>>55100598
Do you really think people in your military would mow down there own people?
Also isn't there some part in your constitution that says the might of military can't be used against civilians?
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>>55103061
Kojima story time?

And yes their government cant win in a happening situation
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>>55103061
>Also isn't there some part in your constitution that says the might of military can't be used against civilians?

Yeah, that's why they give police militairy-tier equipment instead of just bringing in the militairy when needed..
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>>55103192
Cops in surplus gear are no match for trained vets and a well organised Militia using Guerrilla tactics
>>55103136
Did Kojima really say that, if yes that's hilarious
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>>55102867
Because without any enemies they would lose chances to get funding.
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>>55103291
I dont know but I wouldn't put it past him since japs have different takes on what's racist and not so to him that's perfectly acceptable.

Also

>American police on patrol

Top kek
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>>55102867
High-tech weaponry ain't cheap, credulous people are.
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>>55103291
Why did they arrest that little girl
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ctrl+f Waco: no results.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege have a this
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>>55103686
As young as she is there is always a chance she may have downloaded some copyrighted MP3s, can't take the risk of her being free.
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>>55100598
If I had a problem with the government I can send a letter to the Prince directly.
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>>55103737
I remember watching a movie based on this siege
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>>55103833
ATF and FBI are very nice guys :)
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>>55103833
Is it good and unbiased?
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>>55103978
not really, but if you can think for yourself, it's entertaining http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120472/reviews-16
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>>55103946
lmfao
>>55103978
Eh it was a shitty comedy loosely based on the siege, cant even remember its name
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>>55103737
Nothing wrong with that 2bh.
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>>55102153
No, just have common sense automobile and pool laws. Which you already have.
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>>55104074
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>>55104100
restrict pool depths!!!
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>>55100598
Sure, they'll missile an apartment block in the middle of the city.

Even Afgan peasants can beat the US military.

You don't fight by going into a field and wait them to blow you up. A real insurgency would attack the state powerbase. Industry, financial sector, electric grid, bridges...
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>>55100598

I think everyone should have a thermonuclear missile in their backyard. How else will they be able to protect themselves from their government?
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The imperialist force that is the US military would fall quite quickly if they even see a hint on turning on their own civilians. Guns are necessary to protect yourself against the police and the feds, which will be the ones fucking shit up once the [whatever your choice of revolution is] begins.
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>>55104124
>>55104191
post more m8

>>55104222
>You don't fight by going into a field and wait them to blow you up.

Pretty much, the ones claiming your glock is useless against a tank will never accept this though
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>>55104331
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>>55102200
>rotterdam's in holland mate
Good response
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>>55104360
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>>55104191
Well, we just put a fence around them so kids can't get in by themselves.

Controls and regulations that are easy enough to comply with and don't overly interfere with people's enjoyment of whatever it is is okay with me.
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>>55100598
Honestly the argument falls flat just based on the fact that that the American armed forces are too connected with the actual population.

Tyrants require groups of armed men that are willing to suppress the majority who are against the tyrants rule.

If anything banning gun ownership might become actually relevant as the US moves towards a white minority. Then I would heavily lobby banning guns so all the niggers and spics can't arm themselves.
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>>55102529
>a fucking blog
Just like Sweden defines rape differently, right? Pathetic.
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>>55104360
>beat them up first
>>55104388
Top kek
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>>55104395
Prohibit people from going to pools after drinking.
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>>55104395
The problem are not given objects and their properties, but the people behind them.
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>>55102593
Why exactly is it a fantasy? Plenty of real life events have shown tyrannies to first disarm their citizens. Armed civilians mean the government might have to deal with large scale civil war.
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>>55104473
Depends on if there's a realistic risk of harm.

>>55104549
I don't get your point. The fence is preventing the people, not the pool.
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>>55104395
To be honest, don't have a problem with fencing off the pool, lot of kids used to drown in them simply because you can't keep your eyes on the little turds 24-7 and it doesn't take much for them to fall in.
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>>55102028
not a glock but an autonomous drone

if it came down to it, you're nothing kid
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>>55104614

>Those fucking names
>Every single time

Do they unironically use 'Ghetto Name Generator' to name their children?
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>>55102627
You know how often it's been said over the years that the Holocaust happened in part because the German people chose to look the other way and denied knowing that there were death camps across the street from their homes and places of business?

Yeah...
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>>55104678
Fairly sure they must have, just sticks a Ja, Da and La somewhere in gibberish
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>>55102661
sorry schlomo

North america is not russia


you's are going to have a hard time disarming the goyim there.

Now, back to fucking russia for you.
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>>55104614
>DeKendrix
>JaTavious
>JaMarcus
>LaDarius

For what purpose?
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"I, being insanely technologically and numerically superior can put down any guerilla war..."

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>>55104678
they think making it sound french is fancy
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>>55104717
My mom must be getting old because she always uses "Leroy" and "Floyd" as stereotypical black names.
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>>55104614
Another factor I'd consider is the added price that the regulation costs. It can't be so excessively high that it becomes a burden, and a pool fence would only cost a fraction of what the pool costs, so that criteria is met too.

>>55104717
They don't want to use Yuro names, but they don't know any African names.
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>>55101947
>>thinking the vast majority of the us army wouldn't defect and join the people in an all out slaughter war against civilians
Then who pays them? Who feeds them?
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>>55104717
I used to work with a black dude named M'Lord
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>>55104592
What kind of realistic harm are we talking about?
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>>55104820
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>>55104761
>Then who pays them? Who feeds them?
The people, like communally.

They'll work with what they can, so they can socially distribute to the soldiers what they need.

You know, so they can share out the burden equally. Without any kind of distinction.
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>>55104751
>They don't want to use Yuro names, but they don't know any African names.

>When they call themselves or their children Muhammad, Jamal or Omar.
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>>55104891
>The people, like communally.

>US servicemen would defect to support LITERAL commies

m8
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>>55104360
>>55102593
It's not self-defence. It's the ability to attack the government. That limits how much they can push you.

If the state murders your family and you might just go to war against the state.

You die. So? The Boston marathon bombing probably cost hundreds of millions in lost production. If you kill state agents in an area, it becomes really hard to tax those areas.

If you shoot up powerlines, you can cause millions to lose power, and cause economic damage worth a tens of millions.

The gun makes it harder to hunt you. So that too can cost millions. A million men could destroy the US. Just cutting power and water would kill most of the population.
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>>55104917
Or they don't know how Muslims enslaved and continue to enslave Africans for centuries.
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>>55104840
>justified homicides

Is that like self defense or?
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>>55104943
there are lots of Latinos in the armed forces

latinos are known to be commies.
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>>55104840
The risk of death from a freak accident is much easier for people to accept, compared with the risk of death by a person's agency.

It's not negligent discharges that gets gun laws passed. You can't compare the two, which is actually fine because there are other predictors of that personal agency risk.
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>>55104840

>Gang related

What does that mean? Both victim and shooter gang members, or just 'related'?

Because kids dying from strays are 'related' to gang violence, just like mistaken identity murders and robberies by gang members..
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>>55105014
yes
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>>55104943
I know many former servicemen keen on starting the class war desu.
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>>55104840
NAFTA has greatly contributed to homocide statistics in the US since all these drug cartel criminal from south america found it much easier to get in and operate in the US

Kikes in their endless greed have multiplied criminal activity many times over that if finally become the death of the USA.
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>>55105174
¡el pueblo!
¡unido!
¡jamás será vencido!
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Does anyone else think its a shame that fighter jets got replaced by drones. Way less exciting and sexy.
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>>55105237
>fighter jets got replaced by drones
But... They haven't.
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So I wonder what citizens of other nations, say Australians for example, will use against their tyrannical government? A boomerang? LMAO
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>>55105291
every job a drone does was previously provided by another type of aircraft, right? Or did they just not use air-to-ground missiles before drones came along?
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>>55105237
Be a while yet, drones are just a force multiplier really for now. Great to have but not the be-all and end all

>>55105358
I probably own more firearms than most americans, but its highly unlikely to ever come to that.
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>>55105358
Peaceful assembly has worked pretty well for us so far.

There are also other mechanisms of government, such as the Governor-General and our various Offices of the Public Advocate, the various permanent Commonwealth commissions, etc.

>>55105412
Drones are used in addition to fighter jets, not instead of.
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>>55105414
But anon, guns are illegal in Straya, the Murrkans on the Internet said so!
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>>55105474
>Drones are used in addition to fighter jets, not instead of.
sure, but you didnt refute my statement, or the kiwis. fighter jets were replaced by drones in the vast majority of circumstances.
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>>55105024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkix3SzLGeM but do you actually achieve anything than a harder access for a normal civilian to acquire a handgun?
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>>55105509
>>55105414
so yeah, what are all the memes about then? All those screen-capped articles of collectors having their collections destroyed, the big piles of guns being destroyed? Where'd those all come from.
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>>55105523
That's not true at all. Half the roles the drones are playing are new, and they're only used extensively by America. America's still probably killing a lot more people by jets than drones.
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>>55105509
Heh yeah, I spent a lot of years strapped up behind an assault rifle and really don't want to again. But in all honesty, the last thing I really want to see is shit for brains civilians running around the streets like its fucking Somalia. Because I think if its come down to that, then something's fucked up.

>>55105595
>so yeah, what are all the memes about then?
You tell me.
Go formulate an educated opinion instead of one provided by mass-appeal
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>>55105593
>but do you actually achieve anything than a harder access for a normal civilian to acquire a handgun?
Yes.
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>>55105690
evaluate?
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>>55105711
>evaluate?
Yes?
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>>55105655
>Go formulate an educated opinion instead of one provided by mass-appeal
go fuck your mom
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>>55105595
Those are memes, hush hush
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>>55101924
>Drones can enforce non assembly orders
They certainly can.
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>>55105778
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>>55103686
WHY WOULD YOU QUESTION THAT?!

FREEZE MOTHERFUCKER ON THE GROUND GET ON THE GROUND!!! STAND UP MOTHERFUCKER PUT YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR!!! HE'S MOVING HIS HANDS SHOOT THIS MF!!!! *ratatata* *you dead*

such is life in america
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>>55105729
Well now, aren't you a weak cunt.
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>>55105892
What's more saddening is that an american child knows the correct behaviour in case of a police raid.

Come the fuck on.
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>>55101581
Do you feel in charge?
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>>55106050
I should probably practice that if I ever go to America, because the way they all just shout at the suspect, I'd probably just freeze up like a deer in headlights. Then they'd accuse me of resisting arrest, and it'd just be downhill from there.
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>>55106133
>Do you feel in charge?
Of course, he's from Lithiuania.
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>>55106221
Fuck you Carlos
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>>55106292
Hmmph.
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>>55106148

That's actually somewhat accurate.

Even our own people freeze up or get super confused (and thus tazed or even shot) when robo-cops yell several thousand simultaneous orders at them and they obviously can't respond in time.
t
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>>55106221
damn
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>>55100598
>predators fly themselves
Shoot yourself, cuck.
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>>55100598
It is a start atleast. Besides, the taliban and IS do okay with just assault riflers.
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>>55100598


yeah amerishits dont know what a tyrannical government iws, i hope you do one day
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Alright listen here cuckservatives, just come out and say that you like shooting guns to make up for your micropenis. Don't give us that convoluted shit about tyrannical governments and home invasions.
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>>55107286
So what do pro gun pornstars make up for?
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>>55107202
ISIS have tanks, and even Taliban have RPGs and shit like that.

Although practical, I'm not sure it's necessary to have the small arms immediately at hand in times of peace, because as soon as civil wars start, guns are going to flood into the country in a matter of days. It happens in every civil war, and more often than not, there will be at least one government willing to supply arms to even the looniest of groups.

Compare that to three hundred years ago when it might take three months to get a shipment of arms, and a workshop of a dozen skilled or semi-skilled people would take a year to churn out something like 500 rifles or muskets.

Not to mention home gunsmithing has a low barrier of entrance, with access to common machinery like lathes, drill presses, etc., and the information is freely available.

I think the biggest reason to stockpile arms in this 'civil war' scenario in the times of peace is just to familiarise yourself with them and develop the skills.
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>>55105083
>What does that mean?
gang member vs rival gang member
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>>55102121
Yes, the National Guard has military equipment, vehicles, and aircraft. It's a strange situation because all Guard units are under control of both the state from which they hail and the federal government.
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>>55102742
Kek. People that fear guns generally do so because they didn't grow up around any. Cityfags only ever see them on police and criminals and therefore only know them as murder weapons.
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>>55100598
>need
It's called the Bill of RIGHTS faggot.
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>>55110992
I didn't grow up around guns and yet when I fired one for the first time at 19 I jizzed a little

Anti gun cucks literally are not men, women that like guns are more manly than men who hate guns
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35580261
>Let's just ban everything possible
cucked nations around the world
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>>55100708
t. guerilla
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>>55114186
More like

>ban everything fun
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>>55107920
In civil war you would struggle to afford food. Try affording a gun then.You'd have to join up with a faction that had a stockpile.

Kurds are using guns that are literally falling apart in their hands.

>>55113879
I've fired guns and 155mm cannons and I find them incredibly tedious.
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>>55115123
Why tho? Visiting the range or going for a hunt are just about the only fun things I still enjoy
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