Tell me Canadians, what's it like having a province that refuses to speak your majority language therefore having to make you print everything in two languages?
It's like if Auckland here only spoke Māori and refused to speak anything else because muh pride. We can't do without them because we need them. Is that the case for Qbec?
Ahahaha there's this joke I heard that Quebec French and French French sound pretty different and that the actual French will never consider Quebec people to be as good as them ( ._.)
This is true. It makes Quebecois more angry. I feel sorry for them, but they don't want an anglo embrace to make them feel better.
I live in Ontario, my french high school teacher lived in Quebec.
When she and some kids were on a trip in France, people would ask where they were from. When the said Canada, they would get upset because they assumed they were from Quebec. But once you told them you were from Ontario they were cool.
>When the said Canada, they would get upset because they assumed they were from Quebec. But once you told them you were from Ontario they were cool.
We're barely aware Quebec exists, but we generally have a positive opinon of them 2bh.
Among the anglosphere we're incredibly gucci. I think in NZ immigration just don't be African or South American and you'd be fine. We here are paranoid about diseases affecting crops and livestock
Who here is in favour of walling off Quebec?
New Zealand wildlife is absolutely shit.
I mean seriously I wanna have me some exotic pets like Ferrets, foxes or an anaconda but guran-fucking-teed there will always be a ban because of some dumbass bird or furn which can't fuck to save it's own species.
You'd think with NZ being so isolated it's wildlife would develop into Galapagos Island tier wildlife but instead they chose to be inbred and retarded
I don't know that they refuse to speak the majority language, they just speak french. If everyone you know speaks English but your countrymen 700 km away speak french I don't think you are refusing anything by continuing to speak what your family does.
I have talked to french people who make fun of the quebecois, but I doubt France really gives much of a fuck about them overall. Probably have some abstract camaraderie like what commonwealth think of each other
The only thing I know about Quebec is that they speak french and that they do that show just for fun gags or something like that.
What do they produce? Do they have interesting places to visit? How is people in Quebec compared to the rest of Canada? Do they have more or less chinks?
Shoo Argie this is a commonwealth thread.
It's not that bad. Snide comments and bickering on the occasion, the French hicks are worse than the english hicks though.
It's a civil society, very advanced and all that - it's just some people really, really don't want their culture to change, and those people are french-canadian hicks.
That's not a problem whatsoever, and I respect that. But most ordinary people would like to have some fucking jobs and growth in the province, and that means accepting english businesses and foreign investment.
The french-canadian economy spins its own wheels within rampant corruption and graft and tons of debt because we lack a real industrial base.
In the uninformed French mind, Canada and Québec are coterminous. Ontario, Calgary, Vancouver and the like are probably American.
Québec is known for its strange accent (I personally loathe it) and cold wealther.
The accent is often heard in comedy sketches, Québec is ridiculed for its mandatory literal movie title translation measures and there's a kind of idea of the Québecois as a dimwitted woodcutter so yes there is a kind of mockery but its a kind of patronizing, paternalistic sort of humor, since Québec is seen as say a cousin of France, and its people are - much like how Russians considered Ukrainians before the revolution - "little Frenchmen". I dislike how proud Québécois are boasting about how pure and untainted their "Old French" accent is when its actually just a hideous anglicism-laced western French peasant dialect with an American accent.
Other than that, Québec is mostly present in peoples' minds here for the "Québec dream". Québec is a hub of emigration particularly for young people. France has never been a country of mass emigration, but the economical and most of all social situation is slowly but surely changing that. Québec is seen as a calm, trendy, modern version of France. Like a France laced with N.Y.C. French culture and American opportunity. And no muslim problem. People are leaving in droves, I don't have a large social circle but I alone know 5 people who have left, 2-3 of which permanently.
it's kind of like a pine/spruce soda water meets gingerale. Maybe like a non-alcoholic gin and tonic, or soda rather. I do not know anyone else who likes it, but I am down with it. Never had the alcoholic variety but presume it is the same with less sugar, but that may be inaccurate.
Holy shit this. The ultimate pinnacle of French arrogance.
no that is pretty accurate. It is weird in canada we are taught parisian french so that we can communicate with Quebec, but the quebecois accent is pretty rough and is not addressed in the curriculum in any meaningful way.
When I lived in New York I came across a ridiculously fresh-off-the-boat Irish population in some part of the Bronx.
(irony being: my family are Iranian! Atheist academics though.)
It's okay we yellow skins will establish our colony soon.
France has a federal department dedicated to the preservation of their language. English dictionaries will add new words as their usage occurs, but the french word police are very strict on what they allow to be "real french". I do not expect this to have any bearing on usage by people, but I presume even though 90 makes more sense than four twenties and ten they'll hold tight the old ways because they don't have any real reason to switch it.
It's because they're doing us a favour of not teaching us a trash form of French.
But to be honest, at least in Toronto, schools couldn't teach French worth shit. I learned more reading Asterix, Tintin, XIII and other BDs than I did taking French through high school.
Can't speak worth shit though. Never practiced.
Also while I was learning French my teacher told me about some "society" that tries to keep French "pure" as they have to approve every new word people try use. Like I remember in Quebec they wanted to replace "WC" with "toilette" or something and this society got mad because they were "corrupting" the French language.
lol found it: Académie française. Can you get any more arrogant???
I still find it funny how French doesn't have a word for "Weekend" and "Love"
The Academie Francaise is soon going to impose some drastic changes to spelling. There were protests and demos about it recently.
Oignon will be spelt ognon!
You're doing yourself a disservice. As an anglo-quebecois I never liked learning it either, my parents put me in english school.
Now I wish I knew it better. I can speak and I practice it often but it's not the same.
They're called the Immortals and have neat swords by the way
Each of them receive a unique sword when they become part of the Academie Français, according tothe field they master http://www.academie-des-beaux-arts.fr/histoire/musee-epees.htm
>Le Aryan Meme
Don't fall for Hitler's bullshit anon. Iranians are incredibly mixed, and rather white compared to their swarthy neighbours but even though I'm bretty pale, I won't pretend I'm white.
haha, fair enough, I did not recall the name and have never really looked into it.
I get why they have it. I don't think "we will all speak english!" is a superb justification, nor do I think that you should be able to claim jurisdiction over a language. Having read like 1800's french, what exists now isn't unintelligible, but it certainly isn't the same grammar. But, what evs, can't blame a guy for trying.
Should give them nice gilded gommes as well
Don't really care, I live out west and have met one French-Canadian in my life
It seems a large number of kids I ended up meeting, at least in my city, were put through French immersion...
>Jean-Gilbert, my friend, ur an Académicien, now, u must take your sword and protect da French language
It's not that I didn't like learning French, it's just that it was so shit learning it in Toronto that it was a genuine waste course. I wasn't able to apply anything until I started actively trying to read French, starting with BDs then magazines.
I went to Paris a few years ago and I could read things rather easily but when I wanted to speak to people I felt like an idiot tourist.
They get really upset if you can't speak french outside of Montreal and even in some parts of Montreal. It's really dumb.
But the Quebecois do compose like 20% of the population of Canada, so it's not entirely unreasonable to put everything in both languages.
haha, my best friend said the same thing until he was like 25. I always thought he was retarded, but he might have just been autistic or something.
Different languages are different. Literally translating words does not fully capture their contextual meaning. English has very little contextual value to our speech -- we say what we mean. French has slightly more cultural context, which means if you say " I like you" it means I love you, in their culture. Not a great explanation, but basically you are just speaking english in french if you think Je t'aime means "I like you."
Some are a mess but most are pretty cool
desole, mon francais c'est tres terrible. Pardon moi ;_;
They are a proper sword's lenght, pic related
It's literally just a port
We could nuke it and Tauranga could take over everything it did with minimal costs within five years
>muh coolie labour
>muh naked samoans
>muh c grade tennis tournament
I guess technically I'm a Québécois nationalist, I certainly loathe Anglo-Cucknadians and /int/ Brits (Americans and IRL Brits are bro-tier though), but frankly I also feel extensive self-hatred. It's as if the population of Québec does everything it possibly can to get me to hate it. It's like being mediocre and shooting ourselves in the foot is our national sport. I'm an independentist, but I don't even think we actually deserve independence, we're probably too fucking pathetic for that.
Maybe some day I'll just emigrate to Yurop or the USA and forget I was ever Québécois. Though I suppose it could be worse; I could be Anglo-Chinadian.
>lmao why the fuck are there so many gaybec threads today
for the most part it's just one attention-whoring ban-evading shitposter (the one who formerly namefagged as "Driver's license guy")
I knew it
Let it go even Dumas was half nigger
The one who emigrate to Québec are the hippie ones waging for that "rêve Canadien" where they live in log cabins and ride dog sleighs all day. They also wear ugly, scratchy wool jackets and cargo pants.
not entirely, there's also a lot of ««««««««««« entrepreneurs »»»»»»»»»»»» who dream of an American-style economy where they can live in their nice little suburban McMansion while still speaking French.
>Ahahaha there's this joke I heard that
>and that the actual French will never consider Quebec people to be as good as them ( ._.)
You're the frenchfag posting with an NZ flag. Why are you trying to pretend to be a kiwie?
There is a severe lack of Americans ITT. I thought I would stop by.
Pretty much everything that's not oil and farm shit to be quite honest.
They create a disproportionate amount of music, movies, whatever compared to the rest of the country. Quebec is one of the only province with an actual distinct cuisine. They have some of the most famous cultural exports in the world like the Cirque du Soleil or the Just for Laugh festival.
Quebec is pretty much there to pump culture. It's pretty noticeable just by spending a summer in Montreal.
Also there you can assist to the largest Winter carnival in the world.
But the Canada has no culture memes would become true.
I don't care. Let the memes be true. Fuck we might join America but Quebec is annoying as fuck.
You should come here to be convinced otherwise tbqh.
The hatred is also just a meme.
I don't speak French tho. Why want I go to a place that won't even talk to me.
I like Quebec. They can be annoying but at the end of the day they just want to be respected as the founding Canadiens they are. Quebec has a very profound disdain for the French which can be traced back to a feeling of abandonment when the French surrendered the New France colony to Britain. They grew to hate Anglo-Canadians because we controlled the economy, politics, and the media not just in English-Canada but in Quebec as well. Prior to the Quiet Revolution, all signs in Quebec would have been in English, a language the majority of that province didn't understand, which is why language laws are so important to them. What's more, the French were basically the niggers of Canada; they were discriminated against, openly called 'frogs', and the French language was looked down upon that while French was considered a high-class language outside of Canada, inside it was considered a peasant language.
Yes, I get annoyed when they bitch, especially because Alberta subsidizes their very existence, but I also understand where they come from.
This is basically French spoken by an Anglo who learnt it, it doesn't sound native at all. I mean Québec French doesn't sound like metropolitan French but it does sound unique, whereas this sounds like every English speaker who studied France and still has an accent
I'm always happy to see there are small French speaking communities scattered like this in North America, but this is... Useless tb.h
>"Coming soon dans un theater near you"
Just fucking end it
>what is the FLQ
>what is a referendum that lost by the skin of its teeth due to intentionally unclear wording
The Quebecois don't think of themselves as French, they think of themselves as Quebecois. That's sort of like saying anglo Canadians think of themselves as English, but even more separate.
desu I'm very pro Quebecois independence. It'll be good for Quebecois culture, and it'll be good for anglo Canadian culture (though Manitoba also has French as an official, provincial language).
It's probably the most culturall productive province in Canada like the other anon said. Economically? They benefit from transfer payments but this whole idea that Quebec would instantly fall apart as an independent country is pretty retarded.
Nah mate keep fighting, the only way it will get better is by actively working for it. I feel the same way about BC except there's literally no independence movement whatsoever
Agreed on the accent, Quebecois girls are almost as good as my qt Hongcouverites
Oh jesus fucking christ chiac speaker should be fucking gassed, only people I support genocide against
they're like the portuguese of Canada
fuck you anglos.
we speak french bahahaha you mad son
Die anglos die!
>All English schools to be shut down by spring
Breh BC is more similar to fucking Washington state than it is Alberta, lots of federal legislation/projects are overtly against the best interest of British Columbians
> The current year
> People still haven't understood that all those french policies across Canada were and are tactics use by the government to ensure that the independence movement would never have a chance again.
I love to see French Canadians come to Louisiana and tell "Cajuns" they have nothing in common with Acadians.
Cajun is not a real ethnic identity, Cajun was an insult that meant poor white French speaking trash. They mixed with White, Mixed and Black creoles, Canary Islanders, Filipinos, Irish, fresh speaking Germans and Native Americans. There is nothing unique to them other than being different than urban Creoles.
It's fucking annoying but I get a smile on my face when a French national or French Canadian says they don't speak Kreyol when some frenchboo "cajun" tries to talk.
Appreciate Quebecois :3
>STILL not independent
>voted 'no' TWICE (2!)
C U C K E D
Why do Anglo women love French men so much?
Especially Canadian women, they think Canadian men are beta and cringy so they flock to Quebec to get some of that big latin cock
>your province will never be relevant
stay mad cucknadians
New Orleans is better than Montreal :^)
Fight me fgts.
>inb4 muh nigs
>We will be independant in my life time
feels good man
>Spot the buttmad frog
>french Canadians desperately want to be french
>french language literally has police to keep it pure of foreign words
>France chose a different time zone because they were mad that England created it
Why are French people such faggots? They literally act like 5 year olds at the governmental level
>it's an American says something informative post