To Mexicans: Do you have more cultural ties with North America

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I'm sorry you had to see this thread /int/.

>>54854024
the countries between Mexico and south America are completely irreverent and in all honestly little Mexico's

American culture is definitely steamrolling into Mexico thanks to NAFTA and Northern Mexico is beginning to look a lot like the American southwest. which is funny because Northern Mexicans are the most patriotic.

Mexico will always be a Hispanic country. and Spanish will always be spoken their, but id say in about 50 years Mexico, when the Mexican economy is close to being in the top 10, it will be more friendly towards American culture.

Mexico will never be like a country on par with, lets say Russia but more like what Argentina used to be.

as it stands now Mexico is Mexican and social issues(Trump fanatics) in the U.S. is weakening all cultural fusion done over the last 20 years.

>>54854396
t. chicano

>>54854024
no culture here

>>54854477
yes i am. and personally i think a Chicano would be the best person to answer OP's question

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>>54854396
>American culture is definitely steamrolling into Mexico thanks to NAFTA and Northern Mexico is beginning to look a lot like the American southwest. which is funny because Northern Mexicans are the most patriotic.
jajaj pero no puede seeeer el post mas chicano que vi en mi vida

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>>54854511
>no culture here

aw c'mon man Mexico is filled with culture.

>>54854520
>Northern Mexico is beginning to look a lot like the American southwest.

it's true though

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mexico's just kind of mexico.

the only problem is that its middle class is an american colony, they watch the fucking super bowl and follow american viral culture diligently, it's really fucking cancer.

otherwise they're neo-indiginists that try to shove indigenous art down your throat like they've got anything to do with it in the first place.

everyone else holds on to more traditional mexican culture but are dumb as rocks.

t. 7 well-traveled years in mexico

>>54854574
>funny buildings

OHHH LOOK AT ALLL DA KUHLTURE!!!

>>54854687
oh im sorry how many world heritage sites are in Honduras?

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>>54854678
hmm that's interesting. I'm from a largely rural part of Mexico and computers aren't that common and everyone only watches soccer and novelas.

everyone where i'm from are either castizo, or mestizo. and the natives are always really poor.

Catholicism, Farming, and partying are all we do.

>>54854766
There are two, f.am

>>54855084
Mexico has 33

http://whc.unesco.org/en/statesparties/mx

>>54855084
>Copan.

Literally a waterd down version of Tikal and Chichen Itza

>>54854520
The Southwestern states have always had a Latino influence, even before large scale immigration.

>>54855148
Mexico is 18 times bigger than Honduras

>>54855251
and 18 times more relevant.

>>54855273
0*18 = 0

>>54855303
so Honduras is not relevant at all. hmm. good to know.

>Chicano replying and defending mexico
The downfall of America
;__;

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>>54855358
ah don't worry. it's cool.

Americans can be bastards sometimes but overall you guys are alright.

>>54854396
Could you be more chicano?. everywhere when a latin american goes they try to be what they are not
>be mexican
>come Spain
>brag about being 1/16 basque

>be argentinian
>come to spain
>brag about having a galician great-grandfather

>>54855483
I am a mestizo. with ancestors who have all been farmers.

what else would I claim to be? i literally have never seen even a picture of one of my grandpas.

Guatemala and Belize should be annexed to give mexico prettier borders.

>Chicanos defend Mexico
>get made fun of
>Chicanos shit on Mexico
>get made fun of
Can't win

>>54854766
TOP KEK, nobody would ever try to claim to be a spaniard but mejicans.
Jorge, estás dando pena, los argentinos se cagan de la risa en gallegos boludos como vos.

>>54855871
I shit on Mexico? when?

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>almost no mexicans ITT
>suddently USA fights everyone but Mexico

>>54855911
I'm not claiming to be a Spaniard. where did you get that from?

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>>54855637
m8 mexico's got enough problems already

>>54855961
Missquoted this fag >>54855483

>>54854678
This is the truth

The middle class loves american shit

I really feel that Guatemala has a lot of cultural similarities with Mexico.

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>>54856030
>mfw i visited mexico in december and everyone's watching the super bowl
>mfw people ask me what team i'm rooting for
>mfw people care about sports in which their countries can't even be involved in

>>54856074
Isn't it the same thing?.

>>54854024
We never know about those cunts, no one travels there, they don't have large media that might influence us, they're not politically or economically relevant enoguh to make us interested on who they are-

Of course we are simmilar to them, but these simmilarities are not really getting stronger.

On the other hand, Gringos really influence everything here: from music to clothing and media

>>54856090
The Super Bowl is a global event. and plus people watch sports in which their favorite team can't even be involved in all the time

>>54856090
I don't really know why people care about it, it wasn't until some 8 years ago they starting giving a shit.

I still don't know the rules of that shit

>>54856237
Me neither Rugby looks more entertaining.

>this thread
CHI

>>54856237
ive been to 6 football games and watched 2 on tv
still dont know the rules

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>>54856598
why the fuck is it that in a game that lasts 60 minutes i have to sit down and watch it for 3 fucking hours?

>>54855923
>reading comprehension

>>54856598
Play Madden or some shit. That's the only way I understood the sport

>>54856074
Probably with southern Mexico, but not so much with northern Mexico, northern Mexico and the southwestern US are very similar.

>>54856652
I tried to watch the superbowl this weekend, I don't understand how people canw atch this shit with ad breaks every 30 seconds of play

>>54854024
Southeastern Mexico is a lot more like Guatemala.
Northern Mexico is more like the US.
Central Mexico is 50/50

>>54854678
I can confirm.
Just curious though, what parts did you travel through and when?

>>54855637
I actually would be down for making Guatemala a mexican State if they want to.
I don't think the US would let us though.

>>54857336
i lived in mexico city from 2004-2010 and back in 2012. i did a lot of central mexico, which wasn't very interesting. i travelled a lot to Oaxaca, Guerrero, Michoacan with a few trips to Nayarit, Chiapas and Sinaloa until the drug trouble started. then i went a lot to Yucatan and Veracruz. Finally the last year i lived there i got to briefly visit Chihuahua, since i had a few friends there.

Oaxaca and Yucatan are god-tier. Guerrero, Chiapas and Michoacan a shit.

Sinaloa and Chihuahua are pretty weird, especially since everyone i knew there were ranchers living a rich cowboy dream.

>>54857608
What part of France do you live?

>>54857707
Paris.

Why?

>>54857721
Just curiosity I like Lyon and Paris too.

>>54855244
not really. Only Texas and New Mexico

>>54854024
We dont have any with non of those countries, we are an especial country an unique one, you cant compare us to anyone.

>>54855911
We don't say that. I've never known a mexican claiming to have spanish blood.

>>54858884
then you've never met rich mexicans. their most annoying habit (which they share with a lot of rich latin americans) is that they try to distance themselves from the rest of their country out of embarrassment, their only defense being their "race."

US

Latin America

>>54857608
Im from chihuahua and we invented the cowboy and rodeo they texans copies that from us

>>54858928
That's true. I'm middle class, and most of my circle is too.

>>54859227
>not having poor fag and rich fag friends equally

It's like you don't want to succed

>>54859268
in my experience in mexico (and latin america as a whole) richfags and poorfags (or rather middle classfags) avoid each other. they each have their own set of slang (rich slag sounds effeminate and faggy to poorfags and poor slang sounds crass and vulgar to richfags) they have their own schools (richfags are never seen in a public school) and their own neighborhoods.

when together, richfags grow bored with the more quotidian activities of poorfags (as well as they feel in danger easily, kek) and poorfags resent richfags since they can't afford any of the richfag's habits.

poorfags hate wealth and richfags are embarassed by poorfag's lack of "education," however that is shown (their political views, their vocabulary, their sense of humor)

you've got some serious social segregation issues. i can't remember where i read it, but i remember in an analysis of latin american social classes it said that in any given country the upper class has more in common with the upper class of other latin american countries than with the lower class of their own native country.

>>54856815
More like the southwest US is like northern mexico

>>54858884
I have spanish blood, a lot more than native blood but that's common and irrelevant where I live so people rarely talk about those things except when talking about their ancestry, where they came from etc. For instance my cousins family came from Italy, so we discuss that sometimes, not often though.

>>54859381
I'm pretty sure almost every country has this

>>54859381
I tend to get along well with pretty much every kind of person I've met, but I do notice the segregation among people.

I hope this shit would really start getting better since it really fuels our overall problems

>>54859627
you have two mutually exclusive camps not only actively working against each other but literally trying to pull away from the other. it's the worst leftover from the spanish hegemonic system (to the point where it's created a "peacock mating" issue where whiteness seen as attractive, since it represents wealth, status and education, regardless of a person's appearance, i mean for fuck's sake every advertisement features white people)

so the rich help themselves and the poor undermine the system. it's also part of what i call "soy un chingon y hago lo que quiero" mentality, where everyone's kind of given up on the country so they start acting against society (bribes, littering, recklessness in general) since they figure dog-eat-dog is the most beneficial attitude.

it's the single WORST set-up for a country to have since the rich are going to (in american fashion) avoid a growth in the middle class and the middle class is going to push for counter-productive socialist policies causing really, really slow all-around development.

not to mention how the rural parts of mexico never seems to benefit from any of this...

>>54854574
Nice image of European culture remains.

>>54856598
>>54856652
>>54856237

It's a strategic game.

You got to set up the different plays and lines each down

>>54859188

The Spanish did and the first ranches were in Florida

>>54855911
Maybe not the hippies that go full "muh aztecs, DEBUELBAN LOS HOROS!" but when you talk to """""white"""" mexicans/south americans they always try to step aside from their indian blood saying they're spanish decendents

We have more in common with the USA than with the central american states, the country completely disconnected it existen of those countries after they separated from Mexico, only from once in a while some news come from them.

But most mexicans only know about central america was the cold war dictatorships that used to rule and central americans migrants traveling the country going to the USA.

They are hard to tell apart to other than there funny accent and way of saying some things, I have worked with some guatemalans, and one I was sure was a southern mexican actually turned out to be guatemalan, turns out that they culture is is greatly influenced by mexican culture, mostly banda music and television.

On the other hand, the USA, we have had more than a hundred of years of political contact, migrations, treaties, culture domination from the USA, that's it ingrained.

>>54860415
>>54860415
>funny accent
"orale carnal, esto vatos si que estan re-locos"
central americans speak better spanish than yours i cant diferenciate each CA country tho

>>54854024
Well i actually live in a border town with Coahuila state and tbqh senpai the relations are extremely friendly. Even the recent immigrants love both countries.

>>54860563
No one speaks like that you moor. Thats tacospeak from Los Angeles.

It's like saying all spainmoors speak the same castilian.

I actually met real guatemalans and work with them. Guatemala has a large rural population, so they have a huge influence in the way they speak form the native languages from the indigenous , that neutral spanish you speak of is only spoken by the people from the capital. Nicaragua and Honduras as I remember haz a similar way of speaking it like they talk with a rhythm.