Do russian people know that they are the bad guys? Pic related

>>54811756
Russians are not the bad guys, Arabs and Muslims are. We need to band together to defeat them.

>>54811781
>Arabs and Muslims
ok well besides them

they question the very existence of good and evil, classic bad guy act

>>54811756
Not sure about bad guy, but Russians seem to revel in being seen as standing up to the West

>>54811756
They're the good guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC3tINgWfQE

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>>54811756
>bad guys

There are no good guys, only bad and worse guys.

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>it's a shit-flinging sparked by a false premise episode

>>54811756
Theyve seen Red Dawn. of course they know.

>>54811806
That's all the enemies we have, seriously give your head a shake. Russians maybe communist or have communist tendencies but they are not the enemy.

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>>54812039
>>54811806

>>54812060
Serbia, are you okay over there?

Real bad:

Arabs for being obsesive cunts

And jews for shilling every penny on the world.

>>54811756
Yes, we know. But in comparison with USA -- we are angels with NW.

>>54811781
You forgot the Israelis too. Mainly just Saudis + Israelis and maybe Chinese?

Oh, and the vietnam fucking shits.

>>54811781
>>54812039
t. Dimitri khan

>>54813119
Trying to force communism and killing millions was pretty bad. Not to mention, millions of 'your own' people.

Who the fuck kills their own people for that long?

>>54813119
Also, I hear North Korea is happy place. I wish I could there, tropical beaches and cute women!! WOOOOO North Korea is great. I'm very happy you 'won' that.

>>54812060
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>>54811756
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuvTIuIb4Sc

>>54813206
Might as well throw in the Cubans as well

>>54813229
t. Jungle chink

I work with several Russian guys in Silicon Valley. For the most part they seem like pleasant people, but once in a while their fundamental darkness appears. Even they admit it. Just last week, one of them told us, and I quote: "Never trust a Russian. Never."

Hey, I'm just telling you what he said. No joke.

>>54811756
Yes she's been a bad girl

>>54813381
happy new lunar year

>>54813461
There's a similar saying about russians here too. Russians can smile to you and act like your friend but it doesn't mean that they won't fuck you over if they get a chance. Some of them are alright of course though.

>>54811756
t.Saudi Arabia's ally

Fucking Nilfgaardians...

>>54811756
we know that you think that we are bad guys.

>>54813461
Migrants are traitors and cowards. What did you expect from them ?

>>54813994
do Russians actually believe this because it is a super bizarre opinion.

>>54814049

I've heard the same opinion from other Russians.

>>54814049
We have the biggest brain drain in the world. It's frustrating to watch how the best people have been leaving the country for century already.

>>54814088
Well the bolsheviks killed off all the ones who didn't leave, and then the country collapsed. It's gonna take a while.

guys wanna see some real horror?

you wanna not sleep tonight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQaCNZ984KE

read the book too. its very insightful

>>54813461
Read that:
http://skibinsky.com/no-russian/
It's well explained there.

>>54814099
What's gonna take a while?

>>54813461
They are Americans with Russian origins, not Russians.

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>>54814049
imho there are no good or "moderate Russians". Russian is a Russian even if you fry it with butter.
Maybe it's not genetic and if he was born and raised in civilized country by non-russian parents.. But if he lived in Russia he is crippled forever.

Russian international student here who moved to Europe ~7 years ago and decided to move to Murica randomly.

All the Russians, and I mean ALL of them, are super negative about everything that moved here after becoming adults.
I dunno why, its just true. I am not like that cuz I nearly died in a fire when I was 18 and now look at life in a positive light lel
it takes a near death experience to change a Ruskie I guess

>>54814224
Well. Let's be honest. Every russian is envy to any russian who left Russia. Secretly or not everyone of us wants to do the same.

>>54814224
Shut the fuck up, amerifat.

My fellow Americans, are you saying that I wouldn't be labeled a traitor if I moved to Switzerland to escape this country?

>>54814310
хyйцa cocни пeтyх
>>54814301
I wasn't really talking about Russians back home, but about Russians here. I live in Los Angeles, one of the best parts of it really. And yet, all my Ruskie friends and professors try and talk shit about EVERYTHING and never notice anything positive. I literally spend 2 hours a week listening to my professor talk shit about Putin every week.
And then they leave the country and remember it as "good old days"
Oh mysterious Russian soul

>>54811756
10/10 would cuddle

>>54814356
I'd label you a socialist faggot but not a traitor

>>54811756
They have to right? I mean the whole world has been telling them for like a thousand years now.

>>54814361
You should visit Russia and understand that. It's like a hell that was a potential to become a heaven. It's frustrating to live here. You are poor, everything around is shit but you understand it could be better than anywhere but it is still shitty and hopeless. I love Russia and in the same time I want to leave it desperately. Sadly I'm not that smart as these professors. What you get with your birth we have to struggle for and only the best ones get it.

>>54811756
>the bad guys
This is matter of perspective for is murridumbs a bad guys Vietnam ect. Germans and Japanese don't consider themselves as a bad guys I wonder why.>>54811882

>>54814088
Maybe because no one with an IQ over 50 wants to live in a third world mafia controlled shithole.

These people leave because the rest of you are so fucking terrible to be around and that is 100% your fault.

>>54814429
I go back every 9 months for 2 months, so I am very aware of what you are talking about.
I am also aware of how fortunate
>privileged lel
I am. My family started off real poor, but my dad got lucky cuz he ended up getting a PhD in physics, so the road to Europe opened to him. So yea I know what you mean, it just sucks to carry that negativity with you all the time

>>54811882
Let's say bad guys want to genocide a lesser tech advanced nations Like did Brits and French.

When I opened this thread I was expecting Russian qts.

>>54811756
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d73XkPQPKiY
We the guys with the gun like you America.

>>54814049

With all that brain drain and hordes of young women migrating elsewhere I'd be pretty bitter and call 'em traitors and such myself...

>>54814525
>being mad at someone who doesn't want to wallow in shit with you
Maybe mop up the shit instead?

>>54813320
>Trying to force capitalism and killing millions was pretty bad. Not to mention, millions of 'your own' people.

>>54814471
>America
>really poor
Stop meming. I bet you even had money for food.
>>54814462
I wamt to leave it too. But I understand it can become as rich and prosperous as no county in this world but i don't believe it will happen but i want to make it happen BUT I also want to just leave BUT I can't since I am lazy so it's all frustrating and depressing.

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>>54814554
My dream is that whole world would be poor like Russia and live like us or even worse.

>>54814429
>but you understand it could be better than anywhere but it is still shitty and hopeless
so then why all the useless military actions?
sending troops to ukraine and syria costs money and resources that could be spent trying to make the country better
but whenever putin diverts resources to war and makes the public's life worse due to sanctions his popularity goes up instead of down

>>54814592
>But I understand it can become as rich and prosperous as no county in this world
That's the thing, it can't because it's filled with Russians.

>>54814554
Everyone wants to leave. They are mad that weren't they who left.
And nobody knows how to fix Russia. It's unsolvable problem.

>>54814554

I never said the grudge was rational

>Maybe mop up the shit instead?

They can't. That's why it's so frustrating as anon here elaborated >>54814429

>>54814592
>it can become as rich and prosperous as no county in this world
It could be happen if we replace population with someone else.
The problem of Russia is that it's populated with Russians.

>>54814503
Ye I didn't expect real discussion way to be a cock tease OP.

>>54814592
My bad, I mean used to be.
My brother still works in consulting in Moscow. He used to get some real good money. Now he can barely afford half the things he had
Also, on the down low, several of my friends here moved to US with some shitty 1 year abroad student program and then hid for 3 years. Then the amnesty came and they are all legal now. And they are from fucking Belarus. If they can do it, so can you brother.

>>54814596
That's impossible. No one can manage to fail as hard as you even when trying.

>>54814611
Silicon valley is filled with russians too.

>>54814611
>That's the thing, it can't because it's filled with Russians.
At least we started space flyings.

>>54814503
Ye I didn't expect a real discussion from this thread.

>>54814644
And look how far you're come..

>>54814629
>1 yeat abroad student program
Our uni doesn't have abroad student program and if I try to organize it myself" I just don't have this money. It will cost not less than 1000$.

>>54814659
US of A cant into space.

>>54814605
>but whenever putin diverts resources to war and makes the public's life worse due to sanctions his popularity goes up instead of down

Such is the russian soul. They're all chronic sadomasochists at heart, it's no coincidence their most ruthless and genocidal leaders are also their most cherished and loved.

I've always kinda liked that about russians: the more you pound them the more they love you and ask for more.

>>54811882
That image is pure and unadulterated propaganda.

You are an idiot.

>>54814605
I don't know. May be it was justified, may be it wasn't. Nobody asked anyone. And mostly people who do this send their kids to Switzerland or Austria. That's what is funny.

>>54814573
Lol. not the hill you want to die on, Ivan.

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>>54814684
Bitch pls

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>>54814672
Пopoйcя в интepнeтe, тyт дoхyя paндoмных yнивepoв кoтopыe мoгyт взять. Haдo пpocтo хopoшиe oцeнки из нaших yнивepoв и cдaть пapy тecтoв нa язык, и y тeбя вpoдь хopoшo. Tyт бeлых нe дeпopтиpyют, нaoбopoт лoл. Пpoдaй мaшинy, кoмп тд. Bce paвнo нa вcю жизнь yeдeшь ecли yeдeшь

>>54814633
Because you ruin our plans.
Look how nicely we managed eastern Europe, Baltics, Ukraine. North Korea is still ruled Russia-style.

>>54814711
With what space ship, Ahh you need a russian rockets to go on MKS.

>>54814746
>nicely

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>>54814640
With Jews and nerds.
In Russia such kind of people would be bullied and laughed at.

>>54814736
У мeня нeт хopoших oцeнoк из yнивepa. Я впepвыe зa 5 ceмecтpoв бeз тpoeк ceccию тo зaкpыл.

>>54814750
It flew on a Delta 2 rocket dummy.

As a side note I don't respect putin at all, but I like Lavrov.

guy's got talent.

>>54814750
>MKS
He means ISS.

>>54814781
And what about MKS?

>>54814761
>In Russia such kind of people would be bullied and laughed at.

Honestly that's the same everywhere.

Except in USA we graduate high school and become adults but in Russia you are forever in high school.

The mentality of the average Russian is a 14 year old mentality.

Jesus, even online gaming knows Russians as a bunch of cheating morons who act like teenagers.

It's everywhere.

>>54814773
Бля, жaлкo. Cюдa бoльшe нaших чeм мycлимoв хoчeтcя.
Hy yдaчи! Знaй чтo пyти ecть.

>>54814795
No one knows or gives a shit what that is.

>>54814798
Maybe because online games are played by fucking teenagers? I can't imagine myself playing fucking online game.

>>54814824
It's ISS. Dude just think everyone knows hot it is translated to russian.

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>>54814817
>Cюдa бoльшe нaших
Haхyя? Иcпopтить eщё oднy cтpaнy?
Ecли я бы yeхaл я бы мeньшe вceгo хoтeл видeть и oбщaтьcя c вoнючeй pycнeй из диacпopы.

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>>54814798

>plays games meant for teenagers
>is surprised when he finds that people act like teenagers while playing

you literally cant make this shit up.

>>54814857
>russians still care abouse some hippy ass space station from the fucking 70s while we're drawing dicks on Mars
This is why your country is an embarassment.

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>>54811756
Yep, we almost always are depicted bad in your movies. Or like drunk cosmonauts.

>>54814817
Boт этих бля y мeня yжe дo пизды нaкoпилocь. Я лeнив, a лeнивым хopoшo тoлькo в Финляндии poдитьcя.

>>54814888
Hahahaha lol.

>>54814835
>>54814885
>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Russians+cheat+online

Wake up. Your reputations proceed you. At this point only diehard useful idiots believe in savior Putin.

>>54814881
Лeл тoжe пpaвдa. Пpocт инoгдa cкyчaю пo pyccкoй peчи и пo тeлкaм нaших

>>54814881
Ho ты нe yeхaл. Пoтoмy чтo ты вoнючaя pycня. Дaжe нe из диacпopы.

>>54814914
нaшим** блядь

>>54814897
Probably because you're a bunch of massive drunks. Even the Irish fucking sobered up before you people.

Is there russian leader that is considered at least NOT BAD in the west?

There are only two laws:
1) woe to the vanquished
2) winners are not judged

Western countries successfully use it, corrupt and exploit our "elites" (descedants of dumb workers and peasants).

>>54814943
They fap about Peter the Great over here

>>54814943
If you ever have one we'll let you know. 900 years and counting.

>>54814943
Gorbachov
He gave freedom and destroyed evil undemocratic soviet union

>>54814959
>The man who turned serfs into slaves and killed hundreds of thousands if people while building a new capital in the literall sawmps.
Yeah, you definitely hate us.

>>54814956
>winners are not judged
Actually they are. Lets be honest murders = winners. Murderers sent into jail and death sentence.
Winners=judged.

>>54814988
Kinda, yeah.

>>54814970
I didn't ask you.

>>54811756
It's bullshit, comrade. You're the scum of the Earth >>54814948

>amerievils are saying this is evil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bigb1On5QXo

Why?

>>54815012
She's not Russian.

>>54815012
Capitalism lives on innocents blood. Bad, bad capitalism lol

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>>54814943

Gorbachev, Alexander II, Peter the Great

Also the Novgorod Republic is viewed positively.

>>54815033
Then why is she singing with Russian accent?

>>54815047
Well I undertand Alexandr II, but Gorbachov? I mean what is written in your student books about why he was good? He didn't do anything that turned to be good for russians. I mean literally nothing.
>>54815060
Do you speak Mari language?

>>54814943
Peter the Great, Katherine the Great and Mikhael Gorbachev are famous here.

>>54814943

Khrushchev is seen as antagonistic towards the US but not as tyrannical or incompetent

Yeltsin is sympathized with as a man who was conscious of Russia's shortcomings but unable to fix them due to alcoholism and economic shocks

People who know about Kerensky usually like him

>>54814988

All we hear is that he wanted to modernize Russia.

I don't understand why I would ever consider the Russian people to be my enemies. I mean, shit. We put men into space together. Where at the time it may have been considered a rivalry, I consider it a shared heritage.

>>54814624
You see the wall, you know what to do

>>54815033

>1/64 white european american wanting to kill slav families because he thinks their evil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cg6f-foLzc

No surprise here.

>>54815157
Yeah. He introduced european uniforms in army. I guess that's called modernization.

>>54815152
Famous. But liked? First two were tyrants.

>>54815157
Pavel 1 really wanted to really modernize Russia. He was killed by elites who resisted it.

>>54814988
Tell me any peaceful european leader of past
protip: you can't

Moron, they all killed thousands and thousands of peasants. They only difference is some of them have improved a country

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>>54815159
Russians hate USA with passion and want all Americans to suffer. They oppose values America stands on like personal and economic freedom, separation of powers. They want world to be tyranny and communism.

I hate Americunts, they force us to hate a European brother.

>>54815159
because the cold war is restarting
we have a proxy war in syria between usa and russia

>>54815228
I heard Stalin was pretty peaceful

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From my point of view the Jedi are evil

>>54815246
is that guy russian?
why does he have a confederate flag?

>>54815102
No, but the way she pronounces everything sounds Russian. It doesn't sound Uralic at all.

>>54815228
Serfdom was cancelled in most westwrn european countries centuries before Pyotr. He didn't just kill them, he delayed modernization of Russia for 1.5 century till 1862. He doomed this country.

>>54815254
>we have a proxy war in syria between usa and russia
No. We have a proxy war in Syria involving Obama and Putin.

Fuck em. Based on what happens in November I may just say fuck democracy too.

>>54815273
WELL THEN YOU ARE LOST

>>54815292
Well she is definitetly bilingual and she definitely mostly uses russian in her daily life but she is still not russian.

>>54815278
That's flag of Novorossiya.

>>54813461
So if russian said to you "never trust russian", how can you trust in that statement?

>>54815263
In comparison with Trotsky, Zinoviev, Bukharin and the other apologists of the World Revolution and the Red Terror, Stalin was a really peaceful.

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>>54815273
Only a Sith deals in absolute

>>54815102

Gorbachov is praised for recognizing that the USSR and its way of doing things was making people miserable. He stopped the practice of using violence to quell peaceful protests, he increased the transparency of his government and decreased censorship, and he enacted market reforms that eventually allowed people in cities to get food without waiting in lines for hours.

He's viewed as a humanitarian who tried to reform his country along a more stable, peaceful, and prosperous path but was thwarted by a coup representing bureaucratic and military interests.

Which Russian leader wasn't a tyrant and good for the Russian people?

>>54815000
>Lets be honest murders = winners. >Murderers sent into jail

Murderers sent into jail =/= winrars

>tfw the enemy countries have the cutest women

>>54815398
Uncovered murder=death sentence. No one goes away with murder in any society.

>>54815388
> practice of using violence to quell peaceful
Read about happenings in Baku and other republics in end of 80's.
>that eventually allowed people in cities to get food without waiting in lines for hours.
lol what. Under Gorbachev lines were the worst.

>>54815254
And guess what: murrica is losing.

>>54815447
But we are allies with Italy and Ukraine.

>>54815388
And he failed in literally everything. Except lines. Yeah. He killed lines and 7 million people that Russia lost in 10 years after his rule because people couldn't even buy this food that had no lines. He shot demontrators in Lithuania, he didn't do anything when a war between Azerbaijan and Armenia started. He ruined everything USSR had but he didn't give anything in return. Due his actions literally more people died than executed by Stalin.

>>54815388
> be a leader of a superpower
> advertise fast food restaurant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgm14D1jHUw
> move to london
> get called great humanitarian leader

>>54815394
We never had a democracy so every russian leader was at least a tyrant.

>>54814698
Lel, I want you and your comments everytime when exactly the same pictures about russia shown

>>54815495
>Stalin A tyrant.
DESU he did what was necessary for the soviet state to survive after the revolution

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>>54815451
>No one goes away with murder in any society.

umad?

http://www.uapost.us/en/news/policeysjkyy-chykago-vymagae-vid-simyi-vbytogo-nym-pidlitka-10-mln/

>>54813461
>>54814049

Immigrants are not regular Russian people. They are fortune-seekers who abandoned their friends and family to try their luck in another country, how could such person be nice? And they have inferiority complex because of their poor childhood. Even when they become wealthy, they still try to steal everything in sight and cheat everybody. When I was USA I tried to avoid Russians at all costs, I haven't met even one who didn't try to attempt a fraud. I avoid internal migrants even in Moscow, because it's basically the same shit.

>>54815553
They are already dead inside and also judged by people.

>>54815464
thanks for the relief

>>54815464
> Ukraine + Germany
> allies
> sending Ukrainian refugees back home
You used to be during WW2 when in need for labor force

>>54815384
Why is he in rags? The Sith can into style and fashion

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>>54815479
>gorbachev brought pizza to russia
o7 patriot o7
/|...hero..../|
/\..savoir.../\

>>54815534
Like what? He made a basis of the fall of soviet economy.

>Ameridevils and GERMans want to kill this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsTACGVoNLw

Why?

>>54815579
You didn't read that article, did you?

Boy, what are you talking about!?
In murrica, cops killing blacks are real winrars.

>>54815604
Nobody could afford this pizza untill Putin came to power.

>>54815388
Actually lines were the worse in Gorbachev times. After him lines dissappeared, because economics collapsed and people were basically using natural exchange. My father has bought his first car for a bunch of backs and a cow.

>>54815454

>Read about happenings in Baku and other republics in end of 80's.

Oh dear, I had not heard of this. Was there some reason why they were more willing to use violence in Azerbaijan than in the Baltics or elsewhere?

>>54815630
Look even murder don't, get a punishment he is still judged. Otherwise without judging murders mankind will die out. Blood for blood exist for a reason.

>>54815669
Now read about happenings in Vilnus (Lithuania).

>>54811781
>invading "brother" nation and annexing their land in fake referendum
literally hitler tier.
>supporting violent, murderous psychopaths as means of harming the same "brother" nation and calling them "freedom fighters"
literally bin laden and CIA tier
>carpet bombing residential areas in syria in support of a dictator and calling it a fight against islamism
literally worse than everything Jews have ever done in Palestine, and without even having been attacked first

Yeah, right.

Some delusional, fanatic Russian lemmings may see batushka putin as kindly tsar thats protecting them from the evil americans, but in reality they are just willing accomplices to an immoral megalomaniac obsessed with his own power.

>>54813489
Y-you too

>>54815669
They used snipers and violence in Lithuania too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_Events_(Lithuania)

>>54815723
You guys can't let go of '69 can't you? slavs are masters of grudges and negative memories.

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>>54815723
>annexing their land
True. Russians annexed their land.

>>54815723
>in fake referendum
You could have sent your observers, but you did not.

Cry, my baby, cry.

RUSSIA IS EVIL
LOOK AT THIS BIG EVIL SHAPED LAND
MUCH NUKES WOW BOMB SHELL EVERYTHING
MUCH KILL
PEOPLE ARE GRIMY
DON'T YOU SEE THAT
fuck you ''''''''"""""'gud"""""""" guise

>>54815723
Please visit Crimea. Help these poor opressed ukrainians.

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A serious question:

who is your bro?

>>54815751
I'm not saying this because I have grudge over 68. In fact I accepted this as history, as just one of soviet crimes, and russia as something on path of becoming normal country, just like germany got over its nazi past to become civilized, decent country it's today.

But instead it seems Russia kept its imperial ambitions as well as its ruthless, inhumane methods of dealing with people who don't want to be prisoners in their jail of nations.

Keep telling yourself it's all just butthurt of victims if it makes you feel better about yourself, that it's not just seeing and judging misconduct of a bitter decaying former empire wanting to reclaim its own glory and inspire fear and compliance in people outside of its borders.

>>54815788
You mean oppressed crimean Tatars? Euros adore shitskin muslims, and don't care about shitty slavs.

>>54811882
>wants to build nukes to nuke the US
>WE R GOOD BOYS WE DINDU NUFFIN

>>54815839
>But instead it seems Russia kept its imperial ambitions
Somebody needs to do it this things.

>>54815863
Implying it is a bad thing. US wants to genocide iranians.

>>54815832
Swiss. Always trust swiss

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>>54811756
i like ruskis

>>54815839
One thing I respect about Russia, it stands up for itself and sticks for its rights and laws. Europe is always compromising, with a few exceptions. To be a country that doesn't care about what others think and does what it needs to do, for it's own good is no foe, they have my respect. I'm not saying I agree with what they do or worship them in any regard, I just respect the fact they stick for their country.

>>54815911
Ne pizdi

>>54815839
>Russia kept its imperial ambitions
Sounds like Soviet communist propaganda.

The history of Mankind is shaped by Empires.

Since ever. εμπόριο = TRADE

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>>54815903
>US wants to genocide iranians.
ya thats why we scream death to iran at all our political rallies, oh wait iran does that not us

why is everyone surprised that usa isn't friendly with a nation that's slogan is death to America?

>>54815788
What does it tell of you when you mock suffering of others? Or when you justify causing more suffering with your greed and desire for power?

Hitler was also justifying his aggression with the good of his own people.

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>>54815958
>usa isn't friendly with a nation
umad?

>>54815958
No, CIA invade on their neighbors a start a revolutions with a very mad murders. Yeah nah bruv US of A wants to kill middle east.

>>54815246
>Russians hate USA with passion and want all Americans to suffer.
Huh. That's too bad.

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>>54815959
>mock suffering
>implying suffering is real there

>>54815958
You mistake reason and consequence. Maybe they shout that because you made coups there and interfered it? And even wanted to invade it.
Iran pose no danger to you and never done anything to you why would you shout against it?
Meanwhile after 9/11 a lot of people in USA cheered for invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan on rallies too.

>>54815959
>justifying his aggression with the good of his own people.
That's what the Russians are trying in Germany right now.

>>54815999
the cia helped the british install the sha because of iran was trying to centralize oil and fuck with the british oil companies

why do we get all the hate for UK's retarded mistakes?

>>54815945
"Empire" is from Latin "imperium", "inperium" (“command, control, dominion, sovereignty, a dominion”), which is from "imperare", "inperare" (“to command, order”), which in turn is from "in" (“in, on”) + "parare" (“to make ready, order”).

>>54816067
Stand up for yourselves, cucks.

Have some pride man...

>>54816095
You are wrong. It's Greek.

>>54816112
In Germany you receive a huge backlash when you stand up for yourself.

>>54815702
>>54815732

Wow, what a dick. That's disheartening to learn.

Then I suppose you can chalk up our affection for Gorbachev to the fact that we need to believe that at least some Russians must be capable of ruling their country without resorting to tyranny.

>>54813461

That is what centuries of tyranny and corruption does to people and their mentality. For Russians it's natural to abuse system and fuck their "friends" on the moment opportunity to get away with it appears. Are all Russians like that, no, but that is far more common behavior for them than western or even eastern Europeans.

>>54816090
It is all about money. But human live>money, Because money is a work, that mean economy will be judged by people.

we are bad, we always were.

>>54816132
Take the backlash, and spread it around. You all need to stand up for your country, collectively. Just go easy on the fascism this time around.

>>54816164
i also blame finnish blood in us, the fo finno-ugric the person the more degenerate he/she is

>>54816090
>the cia helped the british install the sha because of iran was trying to centralize oil and fuck with the british oil companies
>why do we get all the hate for UK's retarded mistakes?

Because you were just as involved in that as Brits and subsequently became biggest ally of regime you installed there. Nationalization of Iranian oil and oil companies would have hurt US oil companies just like it hurt British oil companies.

We are not evil.

We just dont care.

>>54816114
In Russian "Empire" is "Импepия" [impérija]. So that in Russian this word is clearly of Latin origin.

>>54813461

And I'm telling you now, "Always trust a Russian. Always." You see the problem? You're going to believe the other guy over me merely because he told you not to trust them first. Had I spoken to you first you would be preferential towards trusting Russians and be skeptical of anyone who tells you to distrust them. You see the problem here? Your beliefs are totally arbitrary, not based on the merit of what you're told, but are the result of the order in which you were told two statements. In short, you're a cuck.

>>54815959
Annexation of Crimea was kinda an act of agression (though 0 ukrainians or whoever died) towards Ukraine but it wasn't towards Crimea. You guys forget about one's rights if something is touching another guy's right-your ally. Ukraine is hostile towards us. Crimea is not. There was no agression towards Crimea. There is no occupational government, there are no soldiers shooting people and there is no local resistance. You pitty poor ukrainians though you shit on crimeans. I can blame NATO in bombing Serbia, killing thousands of civilians and pretty much covering the genocide of serbs. Will you accept this? No since you were acting in favour of your allies: Croatia, Bosnia and Albania, you helped them. Will serbs be gratefull to you for that? No. They hate you.
>inb4:whataboutism
It's just an example that everyone acts the same. We just have different allies. For you genociding of christians or alavites in Syria is nothing, for us civilian casualties in sunni areas are not that important.

It's funny, on a day to day basis americans do not really fear or care about the russians.

I go to a trip to Moscow and their state run media along with every salty old person wont shut the hell up about the US. It's a wonder they don't talk about how much the Chinese take advantage of them.

>>54816327
Yes we are.
When Obama said that there are three threats - Ebola, ISIS and Russia - we immediately began to bomb ISIS and made cure for Ebola. Because the Evil Empire does not tolerate rivals.

>Do russian people know that they are the bad guys? Pic related

Only in shitty American action movies. Russia is a tragic hero and considering the complexity of her story, she might be the best tragic hero.

>>54816463
>When Obama said that there are three threats - Ebola, ISIS and Russia - we immediately began to bomb ISIS and made cure for Ebola. Because the Evil Empire does not tolerate rivals.
kek

>>54816473
Kys

ooga booga where the russian qts at

HOBЫЙ ПOЛOЖHЯК.
TEПEPЬ TУCУEMCЯ B TPEДE ПOЛЯКOB.BCE HA ПOCTOЯHHOЙ OCHOBE. ЭTO HAC CПЛOTИT, A ЗAOДHO ПOCMOTPИM БOMБAЖ.

Comrades, you all know that general threads are uniting. Thus murrica, canda and mexico have their /cum, balts united with strayans. They use market technology, advanced psycho impact on minds which forces you to stay in their threads. They know that they can survive united. United they can. They can and will dominate stupid lyahs and other single generals. They will vanish you from here and from history. But you are blessed to survive in this chaos under Russian protection. Since now Russia thread is permanently united with Polska one and Russians hang in here. You are garanteed equel rights, using your local language, participate in strawpolls and 100 grams of bread. God chose you, cromrades. You're safe now. >>54796686

>>54816441
Ukraine being hostile towards Russia is largely due to Russia having no idea how to handle diplomatic relations. You want to foster good relations with your neighbors so they become trusting and allow you to pet them.

>>54816239
You should just let finns take over your shitty africa tier country to make it a better place to live.

>>54816977
Granted, the US isn't much better and we really need to deal with Mexico. And history won't look too kindly at us for how that will likely go down.

>>54816977
We tried to use diplomatic relations with Ukraine all those years. But they used chantage all the time. Every their new president started to chantage us with naval base, with gas transit and other shit. Begging for discounts for gas and free credits.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_gas_disputes

>>54817071
And you had a definite legit issue there, and arbitration came back in your favor. And then the whole thing happened where Ukraine went batshit and you decided to grab Crimea and start launching dumbfire rockets into Ukrainian cities. That was the bit most of the world had an issue with.

And the plane thing. I think the US and Russia need to get together and once and for all agree to not give retards weapons. No more weapons for retards.

>>54813461
That's why you murricans need background laughters in sitcoms.

You are pathetic. You'd prefer to be friends with someone who'd say "Believe me, you can always trust meeeeee :))))))))" A nation of dumbasses who regard TV ads as epiphany.

That guy was honest. You missed the point starting to mistrust him.

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I think Russians like this mindset of "Russia vs the rest of the world".

>>54816140
He wasn't able to rule it, you stupid. Country has collapsed.

>>54817288
Nah, we appreciate Austria promised not to join NATO and doing it even after USSR fall.

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>>54816977
>Russia having no idea how to handle diplomatic relations

- Iran sanctions lifted
- Ukrainian conflict frozen
- About to build second North Stream to Germany
- trade with US up 6% despite sanctions
- supporting Iran, Hezbollah, Kurds

why u mad?

Bring Back Rurik

>>54817227
The fact is nobody gives a fuck about Ukraine now. It's annoying and a waste of taxpayers' money.

Ukrainian economy minister quit after being harrased by Kremlin agents.

>>54817288
You are right. A lot of people still think about Kazakhstan, Ukraine and Belarus as rightful Russian clay. Including Putin.

>>54817493
Some even seem to think that we are rightful Russian clay. Would be full gorilla war until the end of time.

>>54817587
Not really. You are too alien to us. Balts too 2bh.

>>54817587
No one think like that.

I remember I used to buy cheap Steam games off of Russians before Steam implemented region-locking. Helped one guy grammar check a resume.

>>54811756
Wish I had Russian friends

>>54817482
>Kremlin agents

>In his statement, Abromavicius singled out a close ally of President Petro Poroshenko

Last time I heard these guys weren't too much positive about Moscow.

>>54817869
Well, he must be a double agent bitching against good guys.

The entire world is with Ukraine!
This Abromavicius is not.

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>>54814943
Not bad as in not evil.

>>54815922
This is what I like about cold war France. They still pursued their own foreign policy, leaving the NATO command structure (although in the case of war, would have probably rejoined). They might have been cucks for America, but at least less cucked than the rest of NATO. I also respect them for calling out the bullshit that was the 2004 Iraq war and not joining in.

>all these butthurt slavcucks itt

>>54818025
Man, when you read into what happened to him and his family. Holy shit. I don't think there has ever been an instance of murder being fucked up as horribly as they fucked it up. No clean kills. No competence. The kids were apparently shot multiple times and laid twitching since nobody had the sense to shoot them in the fucking heads to allow for any mercy.

And then the insane plan to hide the bodies.

>>54818054
Russian-French relations have always been special. I can't imagine them going to war against each other.

>>54818092
>shoot them in the fucking heads
This would be considered to be a war crime now.

>>54818097
>I can't imagine them going to war against each other.
How about Napoleonic wars?
And there were more Frenchs fighting with Germans on east front in ww2 then in French "Resistance".

>>54818170
>implying Napoleon was French

>more Frenchs fighting with Germans on east front
No

>>54818097
Cold war was cold war. What happened to Germany would have happened to Europe, and it's likely the French would have fought against that. Definitely can't see it happening today though. In the case of article 5 being declared their support would be logistical or economical.

>>54818333
The only NATO country building military ships for Evil Russia.

>>54811781
They'll have no choice as france gets more muslim and blacker by the decade.

>>54814624
>The problem of Russia is that it's populated with Russians.
Kek, eternal slav is eternal. People say that here as well, just about this nation.

>>54817493
putin is an old soviet KGB cocksucker that has great dreams of a USSR 2.0


well ,that shit's just not going to happen

we will not let it happen. :^)

>>54811756
We Americans don't realize we're a bad guy either. Pointing fingers at Russia doesn't make the us any less of a bad guy.

>>54818515
Trade and pro-Russian population
The way to reign over Russia's neighbors

Currently, the Great Shia Axis is under construction.

>>54818592
no idea what ur on about.

mountain jew

>>54811756
>this flag
>this comment
go back to supporting wahabis you fat fuck

>>54818619
- Eurasian Customs Union (which Ukraine opposed)
- Buying assets in the Russia friendly neighborhood
- Kicking ass geopolitically (Syria), 'cause strong males are en vogue again
- Selling arms to those who acknowledge its strengh (Iran is currently testing T-90A in Syria)

>>54818761
you provide me with pointless info.

and military trades are just business, and business is business, lets hope them ruskies try something stupid like (as they always do) like trying to fuck over Tehran.

>>54814798
you are simply a fool

>>54817587

No, you are just a mere buffer state between Russia and an hypothetical Swedish Empire.

>>54811756
We are evil, not bad though. It's not bad to be evil. Humanity needs us, like light needs darkness to contrast the shades of objects in space and like every company of friends needs one guy who seems angry all the time.

>>54811756
Ty znajėš čtó tėbe sróčno nado idti v/na odnó mesto i eto mesto zovietsia chujėm?

>>54818800
>military trades are just business, and business is business
You are pathetic.

http://www.english.rfi.fr/economy/20140929-poland-pressures-france-over-mistral-deal-russia

>>54818894
*zoviotsia

>>54818909
lol not our fault these kremlin agents are using our pseudo government for their agenda.

if the french are naive to trust this mob, they deserve to get burned.

simple as that.

>>54813994
>>54814155
>>54815578
Wow, three no-true-Scotsman fallacies in a row.

>>54817801
same desu

>>54818592
0.3 million Russian Muslims see themselves as Shia
2.4 million Russian Muslims see themselves as Sunni
6.7 million Russian Muslims see themselves neither as Sunni nor as Shia

>>54814912
You to make your point about Putin? Or about cheating? Or about 14 mentality?
Get your shit together.

>>54818936
>using our pseudo government for their agenda
>acknowledging being a part of Russia's sphere of influence

90% of the so-called "Russians" in the US are jews. "Russian mafia" consists of jews and churkas.

>>54814937
nah, it's far for us to irish. We don't have such drink culture.

>>54818957
> Shia axis
Russian muslims are not involved

>>54818972

well duh you dumb mountain jew, russian did kill our entire anti-russo government


they got their pawns here settled in nice and sweet

you western faggots sold us out to them,again, but it's not like we expected anything better.

you all just cannot be trusted.

>>54815839

What the fuck is a "normal" country? No anon, you are the anomaly.

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>swiss sperg relentlessly defending russia
why is it always poster on the west side of the iron curtain that always go full autism mode defending russia?

>>54819012
>russian did kill our entire anti-russo government
Wow, and what have you done about that?

>>54819196
What we have to do about that will releal in some time, we're just waing for the right moment.

ivan

watch your back, scumbag

>>54819247
There is cat behind my back. Did you bribe him to shit in my boots?

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>>54819012
>russian did kill our entire anti-russo government
But they didn't kill all.

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>>54819012
>>54819196
>>54819247
This is Polandball-tier.

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>>54819283


aaaawww poor vatnik, nobody likes you, were all against you.

never forget that, you have no allies amongst us.


we'll piss and shit on your dead corpses

>>54819247
100th anniversary of Katyn maybe?
The Russians will need some time to fix that runway in Smolensk.

>>54819343

Hopefully they'll kill you all.

This way the money goes back to us.

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>>54811756
Nope.
We know that USA is empire of evil.
No, really, America is the pure evil.
Can you imagine the worls without wars? Its a world without USA.

>>54819377
>The Russians will need some time to fix that runway in Smolensk.


so I guess they'll be going bankrupt once again?

lool

>>54819247
>>54819343
kek

>>54819399
they tried to kill us all, more thyan once


look at this, were still here.

like their genital warts that just wont go away.

>>54819343
>were all against you
Who? All polacks against me? Damn, that scary.

>>54819401
Yes. And the USA is a continent size concentarion camp. Police can shoot you for anything.

>>54819428
Explain me this:

Why despite being murrica's staunchiest ally in Europe, polska men and women need AN ENTRY VISA for USA?

>>54811756
>the bad guys
Do the average American ever surpass the intellect of a 12 year old?

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>>54819464
My family is proud in have had donated large sums of money and equipment to the Taliban.

Their victory was as good as ours.

>>54819428
>they tried to kill us all
Sure, man. That's our one and only goal.

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I just leave it here.

>>54819504
because americans know this shithole kacap ruined country is infested with russian vermin, they cannot afford to let any more of this zoo there.

>>54819512
Oh no, 15000 died in 10 years. What a tragedy.

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If russians are bad then how can you explain this?

>>54819401
>usa has only existed for a little over 200 years
>time before the usa is completely full of wars
>time after usa is the most peaceful in history

>russia
>bad

how does that american cock taste?

>>54819662
>>time after ussr won ww2 is the most peaceful in history
I'll fixed it for you. You are welcome!

>>54819662
>time after usa is the most peaceful in history
That's actually because you no only one who have nukes.

>>54819658
I just shot a russian kot last night with my bow.

it's was funny how he screamed BLYAT as he blasted away with that arrow in his ass.

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>>54819512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM_dkwD85WE

>>54811882
>Poland 1980-81
wat

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>>54819722
>p*les
>not subhumans

>>54819739
>polish army

I assure you no real Pole took part in any aggressive action on Afghanis.

Just the kacap bydlo this place is infested with

>>54819722
Don't you invent powder yet?

Why russian education is so bad? Why don't your country value having smart people? Everyone who is smart just emigrates.

>>54819782
Why are you there?
> inb4: being murrica's anal whore

>>54819974
>lives at shithole where shit from herring whores seriously exist as an university's subject
>why russian education so bad?

>>54819974
kurva, in your country bitches have more rights than you

Poles banned abortion, for example. Because they're true slavs, not wild northern slavs as you.

>>54820052
Don't deflect. Answer the question.

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>>54820101
>Opposing abortion is a slavic thing
Then how do you explain this?
Looks like the "degenerate" West actually values life more than Russians do.

>>54820101
There is no country where women have more rights than men.

Banning abortion is unwise, but that's beside the point.

>>54819974
>Why russian education is so bad?
>Everyone who is smart just emigrates.

You can't successfully emigrate without being properly educated. What is your point, kid?

>>54820195
Tell this story to Julian Assange