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Aside from English what is most the valuable second language for a European to learn? Trying to decide on one.

German>French>Italian>Spanish generally though.

German is my top choice because its the strongest economy, has more uncucked regions, the most cities/best cities outside of some Scandinavian ones. French wins back on food/weather but not much else. Italian and Spanish are nice but not really comparable, i think Italian has the edge because the country is better than Spain generally. (Culture/Food)
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>>54064666
hebrew and idish so you know what the enemy is planning
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irrelevant
learn Russian
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>>54064666
If you find it hard to learn another language, i'd say german, their grammar is a lot closer to yours than Spanish or French.
If you have in mind how usefull it would be to you, I'd say spanish or french.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers
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>>54064666
>German>French
Nice joke.
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>>54064666
Spanish>German>Fr*nç>Italian
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>>54064999
Thank you my Russian friend.
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>>54064917
French grammar is more similar to English aside from the subjunctive

German has the case system and very strange grammatical rules compared to English which is more set in stone
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>>54064999
At least in monetary terms it is, according to the Economist.
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>>54065195
oh, ok.
But french and spanish verbs are a pain in the ass to learn
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You could always learn american :^)
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>>54064666
really it depends on your personal interest

No language you learn will be as useful as your English, Anglos have a huge advantage there.

Germany has a huge economy yes, but they tend to be proficient in English and the use of the language is restricted in Europe. You can find economic opportunities almost anywhere in the world with French and Spanish.

It is best to learn for romantic reasons. Which country do you think has the best literature, films, food etc which ones sounds the best to your ear and is fun to pronounce.

French- France, Belgium, Switzerland, Africa

German-Germany, Austria, Switzerland

Spain- Spain and Latin America

Italian- Italy and Switzerland
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>>54064666
>has more uncucked regions
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>>54065217
It depends on what you want to achieve desu. But in terms of economic terms which is OP's most important aspect, German it is.
There will be economic problems in the long run if the German population isn't increasing besides immigration and rapefugees in which op might come in.
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>>54065297
German has a similar verb system to the romance languages

ich trinke- I drink
wir trinken- we drink

etc
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>>54064666

>French
>Speak with French, French-Swiss, French-Canadians, very few Lebanese, Maghrebis and Africans.

>German
>Speak with Germans, Austrians, German-Swiss.

Well French Canadians speak english and africans and arabs don't care about french nor would you care to speak with them.

I guess German it's better.
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>>54064666
German is more valuable if you're doing a straight utilitarian calculation on which language is more economically viable, but romance languages and french in particular are much more beautiful, which is priceless if you have any sort of aesthetic sensitivity.
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>>54064999
Why are you so mean Russia-kun?
;_;
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>>54065468
I guess that is why I suck so much speaking german at school.
I guess I just lost a opportunity to shut up in that matter...

>>54065427
>>54065608
also, this and that
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>>54065739
Because of the operation Barbosa
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>>54065551
I've heard French and English is so common in Lebanon they are afraid the Arabic language might die out there
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>>54064666
German is shit. French all the way.
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>>54065755
>Barbosa
t.
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>>54065760

I heard that French was spoken by Lebanese-Christians because they are so proud of being related to Europe through Christianism, but I don't think muslims care about French that much
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>>54065027
Your opinion is irrelevant, roach
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>>54065760
Let's kill the arabic language together ! :DDDDDDD
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>>54065808
>but I don't think muslims care about French that much
If only
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>>54064666
100m+ native german speakers in europe... but then you should also consider that those worth talking to are speaking English as well, so you might want to choose a different language other than german
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>>54065755
We conquered you in 6 weeks, yet you are a close friend now.
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>>54065808
Maghrebis are big Frenchboos
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>>54065896

I meant they don't care about truly being french or speaking the language, only conquering your country.
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>>54064666
You could always learn both and bask in the glory of being able to enjoy the greatest accomplishments of human culture, ie. XIX century french literature and the philosophy of german idealism, in their respective original languages, untainted by the inherent inaccuracies of translation.

That's what I plan to do.

But you can always stay pleb.
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>>54065195
>too stupid to learn cases
>being afraid of learning a better and richer language
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>>54065217
This chart is subjective. There are many thing in play, the market your sector most focus, the market your position most focus, your clients, etc, etc.
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>>54066003
Yea, we literally Annihilated your HRE, and conquered Prussia in 2 minutes under Napoleon, but now, you're our mates !
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>>54066331
it doesn't make it richer, just autistic
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>>54066565
>nicht in der Lage sein die Schönheit der Sprache zu erkennen
>meine Sprache ist geschlechterlos
>meine Sprache besitzt keine Fälle
>was ist eine Diminutivform?
>was sind Wortzusammensetzungen?
>was ist die Sprache der Dichter und Denker?
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>>54067089
I'm sure it's fascinating but it doesn't hold a candle to Omelette du fromage in terms of sheer beauty.
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>>54066565
also, what do you say about german pronunciation and how it's written?
Isn't this the best reason why you should learn german instead of french? Being able to immediately know how a word is pronounced while reading or knowing how it's written while hearing a new word is such a big advantage. And then you're crying about cases, which is so fucking simple, even 3 year olds are being able to use them correctly...
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>>54067289
Do you know the german word for gloves?
>Handschuhe
>hand shoes
Isn't that beautiful enough?
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>>54067686
Well. It is a little cute, actually.
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>>54065427
>>54064917

What are economic opportunities anywhere in the world with French and Spanish?

Going to LA and getting beheaded, corrupted, living in a shitty jungle broken poor country? Or going to French speaking Africa to walk around in the desert?

That does't interest me.
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>>54064666
>all these people using speaker numbers to prove language relevance
I know it's one way to do it, but you'd be far better of knowing German, which has around 100 million speakers, around 90 million in two very prosperous countries with wide opportunities than vast 200 million plus Portuguese or 400 million plus Spanish. Just look at its "countries portfolio"

Except for the most obvious, learning a language because you feel a connection to "its" achievements, you like/love the people, culture, want to live there and such, you must take in the economic factors as well, if you wish to count in "relevance". But by all means, these economic factors should never be used as a sole argument "pro-".

For example, learning German unlocks opportunities to be employed in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Scandinavian and Eastern European countries doing business (and believe me, they do) with German entities

And let's say Spanish. You have a tanked Spain, what else? Bolivia? Peru? Argentina? Venezuela? Portuguese: Angola, Brazil...?

View your perspectives if you're asking yourself the "valuableness" question
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>>54064666
English > German > Russian > Chinese > Italian/Spanish > Arabic
Also >>54064697 kek but that would actually be pretty useful
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>>54065819
mad?
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>>54064697
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arabic
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>>54064697
Best post in days tbqh
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has arrived the gay chinese bullied>>54068219
>>54068902
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>>54064666
>Germany
>uncucked

Have you been living under a rock these past few months?
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el buliado chino gai seniores>>54068976
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>>54068976
You have Austria/Swiss/East Germany/Bavaria. France is rurally uncucked but no major regions?

>>54067934
Thanks this is a good rationale. I think i wanted to learn a language for passion it would be Italian so i think German is the best bet.
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