https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nw Riuh1Cug&feature=you

>>53949270
honestly the dumbest election add I have ever seen, 1 minute of an old man hanging out with farmers, black people, old people, children and then a bunch of crowds cheering
what the fuck was the point of that?
do Americans seriously watch this ad and say to themselves 'hey this guy knows what the fuck he's doing, I'll vote for him'

>>53949359
Welcome to political advertising in America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU7fhIO7DG0

>>53949573
no that was fucking great, the entire add was informative and had a clear message

>>53949573
>muh jump cuts
I'ma puke real quick

>>53949359
it's a demographic target for youth

you are really far up your bumhole if you can't see that

>>53949675
>it's a demographic target for youth

is that why they're fucken playing Simon & Garfunkel?

>>53949932
ofc

>>53949932
It's a twofer

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>>53949270
>mentioned nothing about policy or anything of substance
yep seems about right

americans take personality politics to the extreme

>>53950079

He has ran policy ads in the past:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD6CR6pLfJg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4e9yiuKAmY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkvA96TQz0g

>>53949270
>I'm Bernie Sanders and I approve this message

What message?

>>53949270
All is see is a slideshow of random stuff and people who already support him cheering him.

What did he mean by this?

>>53950079
>americans take personality politics to the extreme

Ironic since Sanders rails against that. He won't attack the personality or biographies of other candidates, including when he said he didn't care about Hillary's emails.

>>53950173
cheer for me because they are cheering for me

>european propaganda understanding

>>53950173
>What did he mean by this?

A message of hope and positivity. People are coming together to look for a vision of America. Sanders is saying his is the campaign of the people.

>>53949573
That looks alright to be honest, I find it cliche but at least he clearly makes his point.

>>53949270
Good on him outlining his policies for us

>>53950164
>>53950190
Personally I want bernie to win, he's a sickunt.

Much better than hillary, she's completely part of the bullshit political machine.

Bernie really needs an endorsement from oprah. I'd be courting her if I was his campaign manager.

>>53950263
>Bernie really needs an endorsement from oprah. I'd be courting her if I was his campaign manager.

Oprah is rich and establishment and would go for Hillary. Ellen did the same thing. Both have older women demographics who are one of the only demographics that actually like Hillary.

At least Trump tells us what he stands for
https://youtu.be/qa3edsMzHkA

>>53949932
young people are hipsters and into that stuff senpai

Reminder that if Warren had run she would have totally won.
I don't think Americans actually want Sanders, they just don't want all the dirty baggage that comes with Clinton

>>53950285
>who are one of the only demographics that actually like Hillary.
She's popular with minorities too for some reason, not like he actually gives the slightest shit about them. 10 years ago she was staunchly against gay marriage, and openly laughed about a rape victim. Now the establishment has groomed and rebranded her into "Progressive Hillary". The right Hillary for 2016.

>>53950285
Oprahs retired it doesnt matter who she supports from a business perspective now. Honestly I'd want oprah to interview bernie, I reckon he could win her over and get her endorsement.

FUCKING GET ON IT BERNIE

>>53950312
people ragged on this ad because the "illegal immigrants pouring over the border" video is from Morocco

>>53950343
>supporting a literal socialist

WEW FREE EDUCATION FOR EVERYONE

Bernie is the least trustworthy politician I've seen in some time

>>53950263
>voting for an old-school socialist trying to catch up with new fads

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>>53950312
>He'll quickly cut the head off ISIS
>And take their oil

For fuck's sake america.

>>53950263
>He's a sickunt
>Get's cucked off his own rally stage by nigress and friends
He said he's not a career politician as well. He's pretty ridiculous.

>>53950409
>Get's cucked off his own rally
It literally wasn't
It was for something completely unrelated and he was asked to speak since he was in the area.

>>53950312
>>53950351
oh god they should be railing against it because everything said in the ad is fucking ridiculous

>ban muslims entering america
yeah coz that won't hurt the economy or face legal challenges
>cut the head off isis and take their oil
yep super easy thing to do, no problems whatsoever will be encountered there
>stop illegal immigration by building a wall mexico will pay for
yeah I'm sure all of those things will happen

Almost everything trump says is populist grandstanding and would be almost impossible to achieve in reality.

>>53949270

>How do non-Americans react to this ad?

definitely feeling a berning sensation m8

>>53950431
>Literally stands aside in shame as he is strong armed off the mic
His rally or not, it doesn't help him look like less of a spineless man baby.

>>53950327

Warren is very cautious though. She doesn't feel confident enough to take that roll yet.

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>>53950448

>Almost everything trump says is populist grandstanding

and it works, lol

>>53950448
>ban muslims entering america
You're forgetting the follow up that says until proper and effective vetting procedures can be put in place. Which is something that the dems did during the Iranian hostage crisis.

>>53950448
Muslims make up less than 1% of the US population

Since you seem to be an expert on US law (as just about every foreigner on /int/ claims to be), I'd be curious to see what your legal argument is.

>>53950457

Is it clamidya?

>>53950489
>>53950448

Trump is right about Muslims, and kind of right about Mexicans. But he's over selling his case a bit.

The PERFECT candidate would be someone who takes Sanders internal politics, and mixes it with a less radical sounding version of Trump's immigration policies.

>>53950362
>>53950386
He's the president, it's not like he's a king who can just do anything he wants. Presidents are surrounded by smart people who help them to form ideas into achievable goals.

And there's literally nothing wrong with a little bit of socialism, we have aspects of socialism here and there's almost nowhere else I'd rather live.

>>53950492
Doesn't the US Constitution guarantee religious freedom though?

>>53949270
Bernard Sanders is going to be the end of America.

>>53950532
>Doesn't the US Constitution guarantee religious freedom though?

No religious tests of office, and freedom of religion for all.

But there's nothing saying that immigration policy needs to be blind to race or religion. I'm pretty sure it'd be legal to enact a law barring anyone with blond hair from entering the USA.

>>53950532
How does temporarily stopping them from coming into the country oppress their religious freedom?

>>53950532
>giving muzzies rights
Back to reddit you go

>>53950489
and it makes me wonder what a trump presidency would look like, because I honestly have no idea at this point.

>>53950490
>>53950492
vetting procedures is fine but that's a totally different thing from banning an entire religion. I aint no big city lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that would be unconstitutional. At the very least I'm sure plenty of groups like the ACLU would be mounting challenges against it.

>>53950532
It doesn't guarantee rights for non-citizens

In any event the actual law would be not accepting people from certain countries, which Obama implemented a limited form of earlier this year

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I don't understand how people like Bernie.
He doesn't look fit for presidency at all, kind of like our actual president.

It looks like he could die/faint at any moment, I can't even imagine with presidential pressure.
Pic related.

>>53950584
He never said anything about banning a religion you fucking abo. Stop believing everything your mainstream cuckmedia tells you

>>53949270
>I'm Bernie Sanders and I approved this """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""message"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>>53950572
You guys are starting to sound more and more like Nazi Germany everyday.

I wish I could join in, but I'm part of the group being attacked.

>>53950607
You know what I meant you autismo. He literally said in his ads he wants a temporary ban on muslims entering the country.

>>53950631
Which is perfectly legal. And given recent terrorist events and such, is perfectly rational.

>>53949270
I can tell how cucked Bernie's crowds are just by the pitch of the cheering alone

>>53950600
This picture almost makes me feel sorry for him

>>53950646
>Which is perfectly legal
I'd like to see your legal arguments tb'h
>>53950646
>And given recent terrorist events and such, is perfectly rational
It's not frankly, it's extremely divisive, creates an "us vs them" attitude and some groups have already used trump saying that in terrorist recruiting ads. Just because something seems rational at first glance, doesn't mean it is.

>>53950600

Hollande is a memegod though

>>53950621
You can. Just move to any Muslim country. Oppressing minorities is common practice there.

>>53950631
It is within his power, though it is temporary

>>53949620

But he didn't win unfortunately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GabMEHfCjT0

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>>53950701
AWWW SHIIEEET

>>53950600
Remember there's 8 years there it's not just from stress

I mean, Sanders isn't gonna go for a second round I don't think.

>>53950631
Yeah, look mate, I'm a Muslim and I honestly agree with >>53950646

With all the issues happening in Europe right now, I can see how the US wouldn't want any terrorist attacks happening from refugees immigrating to the country.

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>>53950697
Yes, but if we had an actual president, we'd have a hundred less causalities last year.

>>53949359
Political ads aren't for real people. Just the few ultra low IQs.

>>53950532

For citizens

And the President can stop any group of people he wants to from entering. It is one of his powers

>>53950691
Carter did the same thing in the 80's.
>Major terrorist attacks involving "refugees"
>Spikes in crime, rape, everything. All related to "refugees"
>ISIS has stated they are recruting and infiltrating "refugees"
>He doesn't think it's rational to temporarily stop muslims/"refugees" from coming into the country, until proper security measures can be emplaced.
The only people swayed by terrorist recruiting ads, weren't rational to begin with. Even "moderate" muslims, are extreme.

>>53950702
>It is within his power, though it is temporary
Can you give a source on this I'm genuinely curious.

If the president has the power to ban an entire group, no matter what group, from entering the country, that's utterly fucked and undemocratic.

>>53950691
We already done did it amigo. Seriously though people outside the US aren't entitiled to anything here. As for the terrorist propaganda, it's propaganda if it wasn't Trump it would be someone else.

>>53950766
>Whenever the president finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he deems necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens,” according to the federal Immigration and Nationality Act.

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>>53950722
>I'm a Muslim

Its a rip off of this this isn't it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld6fAO4idaI

>>53950790
Go away, Canada, you're not part of this conversation.

>>53949270
I saw like 3 minorities in the whole video.

That isn't very progressive of Bernie.

>>53950766
the democracy of the american people is more important then the rights of entry of the people deemed dangerous

a free country doesn't necesarily mean the country for everyone, including those that seek its destruction, we are nice but not that nice

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>>53950778
Got you familia.

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>>53950725

memedom aint free

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>>53949270

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>>53950448
>yeah coz that won't hurt the economy
how would that hurt the economy. mudslimes are only 0.8% of our population and mudslimes outside of america are mostly uneducated dirt farming poorfags.

>>53950722
You honestly don't think trump is helping to create more terrorists? Terrorist groups love anti-muslim sentiment, it's the bread and butter of their recruitment.

>>53950775
>>53950778
>>53950819
That's fucked. Land of the free indeed. I find it crazy that trumps supporters are conservative 2nd amendment lovers, yet they fully support his near fascist policies and overuse of government powers.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

>>53950705
He's a real American.
Literally all a foreigner expects from one.

>>53950409
That's because Bernie isn't an idiot. If he told them to shut up he'd be branded as racist.

Look at what he did when he was in a room of white people who started yelling at him. He told them to shut the fuck up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI9-VU_KONU

>>53950875
you're completely retarded lmao

>>53950691
its legal and there is precedent.

" Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

It happened with Chinese Migrants during the 1800's.

US law is a lot different to Australian law, it has some superficial common law similarities but the isolationist and revolutionary way the US came about has left plenty of ways for the President to justify discriminatory policy

>>53950875

Land of the free for citizens only. You aren't entitled to any of rights I am

>>53950725
hahaha wtf is going on in this picture?
>Hollande stuffing a croissant in merkel's face
>Pretzel on merkel's lap
>Hollande lowkey moving in for a boob grab
>Nokia brick phone in a glass

>>53950600
JUST

>>53950875
the "fucked" up part isn't really that doe and it's not as simple as you think, obviously if he did do something like this people will be opposed

the law is up to interpretation such as can all muslims be considered as a class of people

australia literally banned refugees, you are not the one to point fingers

>>53950904

Happened in the 70's and people forget about operation wetback in the 50's

Shillary is going to win.


No use even talking about Sanders or Trump.

>>53949573
>farmer, cop business man, marine in vietnam.

just that alone was more informative than ops post. this guy clearly states his experience and his ambitions

>>53950879

What qualities are those?

>>53950569
If you are not allowed to enter a country because of your religion then your liberty is being restricted .

>>53950921
they're people who look very similar to holl. and merkel

>>53950865
What the fuck is this meme

"I want to try to start transitioning the economic system to model EU countries."

That's literally it. Fucking nobody thinks there is truly "free shit". You're really simplifying this too far.

>>53950971
see
>>53950913

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>>53950944
>operation wetback

>>53950971
your liberty as a foreigner, that jeopardizes the rights of those who are here, not mine as a citizen

this is the only just cause to ban people

>>53950971
But that liberty you're referring to is for Americans. I don't care about the religious freedom of foreigners. My constitution doesn't apply to them. The Bill of Rights is a bill of rights of Americans, not a bill of rights for anyone with more than 3 brain cells who can get a plane and come here.

>>53950901
yeah no doubt you're a genius m8

>>53950904
I didn't think it would have been used so often.

>>53950913
of course, that's why guantanimo bay exists

>>53950943
I can point fingers because we don't claim to be the world's great bastion of freedom.

>>53950969
Cowboy vibe going on
Straight to the point
Guns
We wuz free n shiet

>>53951005
>>53950865

Here's the really amusing thing:

NO ONE mentions this shit when GOP are in power and favor massive increases in spending while cutting taxes.

People only flip their lids when Dems propose increases in social spending, not wars.

Bernie Sanders will destroy America.

>>53950448
>banning muslims
>hurting the economy

lel

>>53950518
>kind of right about Mexicans

Try coming down here to a border state and saying that. He's absolutely right.

>>53949270
not enough bloody muslims

>>53950971
The pope will get on board with that in due course.

>>53950955
I'll be impressed if Sanders wins. It would be an admission that American politics isn't bought and paid for by the establishment.

>>53951063
yeah ive noticed most people who are keen on illegals are people who don't have to deal with them

even in Calif it's a bunch of norcal folk, the spics don't go up there cuz it's cold

>>53951038

Yeah only foreigners are there. I don't know how many times I have to say this but if you are not a citizen you don't get constitutional rights here. This isn't the U.K or Germany were foreigners rape and pillage with de facto government protection

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>>53951074
yes it will be

the unions are buying and paying for Sanders election

fuck the unions, fucking mob controlled faggot institutions

>>53950971
unless your religion would restrict such liberties

>>53951039

*We is free n shieet

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>>53950921
Giving her the croissant, cultural exchange
The Pretzel on the lap represents the submission to the croissant who has the higher ground
Hoverhand is for betas, Hollande know how to deal with women
Phone is in glass so you can't hear shit if it's on tape.

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>David Brock, a longtime Clinton supporter who founded the “super PAC” backing her, told The Associated Press on Thursday that the advertising presented a “bizarre” image of America focused on white voters. Mr. Brock also said the ad was a “significant slight to the Democratic base,” according to the news agency.

>“From this ad it seems black lives don’t matter much to Bernie Sanders,” Mr. Brock told The Associated Press.

Shillary's using negroes as a cudgel to smack Bernie and all his nice white progressive supporters over the head. She's going to end up pissing off a lot of white voters.

>>53951079
Yep, although I suspect it's mainly people who have to compete with them for jobs as well. That's why poor whites and blacks love Trump, because they know that mass immigration drives up their unemployment.

A college professor with tenure is the most strident supporter of it, because he knows a mexican isn't gonna come over and replace him in the sociology department.

>>53950865
>Bernie Sanders needs to take a lesson in economics so he can see how all of my misconceptions don't work in reality

>>53951038
>yeah no doubt you're a genius m8

no doubt I'm smarter than you

1. Non-American citizens aren't entitled to American rights
2. Trump never said to ban Muslims from the US. He said to temporarily pause their admissions so that the screening process can be improved. There is literally nothing wrong with that.
3. Who gives a fuck if anti-Muslim sentiment creates more 'terrorists'? It just goes to show how retarded and backward they are

I bet you're from Melbourne, dumb cunt

>>53951051
The media here is incredibly left though, unless you exclusively watch Fox News. And I mean all media doesn't have to just be news either.

>>53950875
>muh this is what the terrorists want

If these people are so easily radicalised they shouldn't be living here in the first place.

I'm not saying I agree with Trump, he's a populist and won't even enact most of these "policies", but refusing to address this issue in case we hurt the feelings of some muslims will only serve to swiften his rise to power.

All over Europe the Far Right is rising, and it's due to the pathological inability of the establishment to address the concerns of the people.

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>>53951125
>having a comemrcial with white people in it, a commercial that is meant for middle america which is 90% white, is racist

i hate liberals so fucking much

>>53951125
>“From this ad it seems black lives don’t matter much to Bernie Sanders,”

literally how is this not a detriment to her entire campaign?

it's such an absurd thing to say, it's like saying that George Lucas is racist because most of the characters in Star Wars weren't black

>>53951125
ffs I don't even support Sanders but come on, you can't argue that he isn't supportive for minorities. He even got arrested a few times for protesting for black's civil rights back in the day.

>>53950943
No we banned illegal immigrants and queue jumpers.

Perhaps you should take a leaf out of our book Jose.

>>53951124
>Hollande know how to deal with women
The fucked up part about this is it's not even a meme, he's the goofiest looking motherfucker but he's having affairs with babes left and right. Same with that manlet Sarkozy. Do French girls just not care as much about a guy's looks?

>>53951051

We already spend more on social services than our military

>>53951125
>>53951194

David Brook is an attack dog, nothing more. This is a slimy disingenuous attack. They know it's bullshit but they are losing and they need to attack him with something, anything.

The ad is mostly shot in Iowa and airs in Iowa. No shock it's mostly white people. That's the demographics of the state.

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>>53950875
>Terrorist groups love anti-muslim sentiment, it's the bread and butter of their recruitment.

lmfao, this image is so fucking true. leftists' fetish for muslims is so disgusting.

>>53950971
Non US Citizens aren't covered in the Bill of Rights you fucking numpty.

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>>53951124

based

>>53951148

Immigrants hurt everyone in the country not just the working class

>>53951210
I am not Jose and I don't care about your immigration issues

HAVE A NICE DAY!!!!

>>53951178
Populism is not compatible with laissez-faire economics.

>>53951210
We should dump ours on random Islands like you guys do

>>53951212
Because infidelity is standard practice in France (and most other Latin countries), and being the President means they'll be lining up for you.

>>53951219

Let's just take the Iraq War in 2003.

If I were to say:

>I propose 1 trillion in new social spending. I am also going to cut taxes and I'm not going to explain where the money to pay for this new spending is going to come from

This idea would be destroyed.

But if I turn around and call for a new war, no one questions this, even if you have no plans on how to pay for any of it.

The Iraq war was a few trillion dollars just pissed away for some ill thought out adventurism.

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>>53951212
>Do French girls just not care as much about a guy's looks?
Depends
If you're interesting/charming(saying the right things) enough it's fine.
Still Hollande and Sarkozy have power and money going on for them, it's enough to make most panties drop no matter how you look.

>>53951125
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oregon-s-portland-community-college-mark-whiteness-history-month-n500981

America is fucked.

>>53951237
Nah, big business owners love em because it's more competition for jobs and it drives wages down.

>>53951094
>Yeah only foreigners are there. I don't know how many times I have to say this but if you are not a citizen you don't get constitutional rights here. This isn't the U.K or Germany were foreigners rape and pillage with de facto government protection
Yes I fully realise that is what you're saying. Instead america imprisons people forever without needing evidence and can kill them and frame it as suicide and get away with it. God bless.

>>53951154
It literally says in the ad he wants a "temporary ban", very easy to twist into terrorist propaganda.
>3. Who gives a fuck if anti-Muslim sentiment creates more 'terrorists'? It just goes to show how retarded and backward they are
ok great strategy there

>>53951178
It doesn't matter where they live, giving them propaganda material will create terrorists all over the world. And since afghanistan is falling back into taliban hands, the last thing we want is more people plotting against the west.

>>53951226
m8 I don't like islam at all, but you don't defeat an idea by fuelling it.

>>53951178
>All over Europe the Far Right is rising, and it's due to the pathological inability of the establishment to address the concerns of the people.

It's a shame. I love the left. But they're in deep denial over Islam, terrorism and how backwards middle-eastern societies are.

We need immigration. Yes. But it should be middle-class educated secular people. Quality of immigrants matters.

>>53951298

Less people buy there stuff then

>>53951234
>>53951032
>>53951025
>>53951008
Yeah no shit your constitution doesn't protect foreigners but the comment I replied to asked how blocking them was restricting religious freedom and I explained how. Now maybe the plan has changed since he announced it but over here there were people reporting that it would apply to any Muslim outside US borders at the time which would also block US citizens from returning and they are protected by your constitution.

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>>53949270
Bernie Sanders is a polish disapora hidden agent just like Merkel.

He will fuck you up, just like Merkel is fucking up Germany.

This is a hidden revenge plan for WW2 against the attacker and allies that didn't help us.

We will fuck up UK next, it's already in montion.

>>53950899
>Bernie isn't an idiot
>"I'm not a career politician"
Bad news for you kid.

I'm gonna vote for him just because of the choice of music.

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>>53951197
>it's like saying that George Lucas is racist because most of the characters in Star Wars weren't black


Oh libshits have said dumber shit than that

>>53950899
>Can stand up to hecklers if they are white
>Not blacks strong arming him off the mic
>Afraid of being called racist, so he doesn't put idiots in their place.
Not only is he an idiot, he's a cuck.

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Undocumented migrants are not entitled to stay here. I don't care if they all get deported and it's not racism, it's the law.

Muslims are not entitled to live here. I don't care if they aren't allowed in. It's not racism, especially when we know what an unmitigated disaster Islamic migration has been for Europe.

We have enough problems as it is, we don't need to import new ones, whether they be from south of the Rio Grande or from the Middle East.

>>53951323

IF a muslim was a citizen than they couldn't be stopped and they'd have full rights.

You are just on some ill conceived mission to spout retarded and false info

>>53951323
not blocking isn't "restricting freedom of religion" that is an extension of class

they are being restricted for being muslims does not mean they are not allowed to be muslims, it means they are not allowed to be muslims if they want to come to the us

the only way to restrict their religious freedom if their religion involves around becoming an immigrant to the us, that is the literal restriction of the freedom of worship

they can worship right at the customs at the airport that is all fine and dandy or the countries beyond that, it does not make islam illegal

you are twisting all kinds of logic, whyfor

>>53951304
>but you don't defeat an idea by fuelling it
If people go full decapitation mode over something like this they shouldn't be in any western cunt.
>>53951323
US citizens won't be left out because guess what, they actually have the right to be here.

>>53951316
>I love the left

Socialists ruined my country for 50 years by pushing Communitarianism(non-integration of foreigners) and feeding on it.

All it will give us is an ethnic war in the near future and a broken country.

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>>53949270
hilarious, just like 90% of American ads and news channels

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>>53951416
Was looking for this, thanks.

>>53951404
>they shouldn't be in any western cunt.
they don't need to be in our countries to attack our interests or kill our citizens.

>>53951413
>All it will give us is an ethnic war in the near future and a broken country.

I think you'll see those in almost every Western country if people don't wake up and elect the right leaders.

>>53951304
>giving them propaganda material will create terrorists all over the world

So you're basically saying that our Politicians no longer have the right to speak out against the encroachment of Islam into our societies, because we may radicalise some goat fucking peasant in some distant desert? This IS actually what the terrorists want, they want us to be scared of speaking out against their political ideology because "most muslims are good people that dindu nuffin". We've been sweeping these issues under the rug for over a decade, and it's reached bursting point. We either address this openly and frankly in a public forum, or wait for the Neo Nazis to take advantage of it (which is already happening).

>>53949270
Creepy.

>>53951445
It certainly doesn't help.

>>53951226
It always gets me how leftists will defend Islam, yet when you point out shit that's done in Islamic countries they'll criticize it.

But then go back to defending it.

>>53951459
Well frankly no reasonable politician should be speaking out against one entire religion. As long as they follow our laws, then we systematically have no problem with it. The west is built on secularism, and we need to ensure our muslims value secular law over religious law, which many do. We need to assimilate them and eventually they'll lose their religion, it's inevitable. Frankly we should ban religious schools, especially islamic schools but you can't target a single group so I'd ban them all.

>>53951578
>we need to ensure our muslims value secular law over religious law, which many do
Lol no they don't. Moderate muslims are still extreme. Just check the Pew research on the subject.

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>>53949270
The ad was trash, 1 minute of people cheering without even saying one thing, one idea or something... the comments explain it pretty well though
>Cmon low and middle class people, it's a no fuckin brainer

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>>53951566
I can't help but kek on my facebook feed when people go full damage control religion of peace while still saying that organized religion is outdated in the Current year.

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>>53951364
>now you're saying that there weren't any non-white people in the gigantic landmass of Europe?

lmao, what a tardass

>>53951578
The Islamic schools comment is pretty spot on its stupid to claim that you want groups to assimilate when they go to schools completely cut off from most of Australian society. Closing down Christian schools would be a headache though.

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>>53951578
Freedom of speech mate, do you understand the concept?

>As long as they follow our laws, then we systematically have no problem with it.

Herein lies the problem. Islam in it's teachings encourages Muslims to rape, deceive, and conquer non Muslims. Death for apostacy is a mainstream belief in many Islamic countries. Why should our politics be influenced by this violent desert stone age cult?

>The west is built on secularism, and we need to ensure our muslims value secular law over religious law, which many do. We need to assimilate them and eventually they'll lose their religion, it's inevitable.

The trend is going the exact opposite way if you haven't noticed. 2nd and 3rd generations muslims are some of the most radicalised the world has ever seen. Clearly appeasement hasn't worked and is in fact exarcebating the problem. Every time we bend to accommodate their ridiculous beliefs, they see it as a sign of weakness. They have 0 respect for us, and you can see as they grow in numbers they become more brazen and open about their disgust for our people and society.

People operate on the belief that all cultures are equal and deserve a chance to make new lives here. It's blatantly false. The world is full of inequalities, and some cultures are just deficient and don't belong in civilised society. The values of Islam are so diametrically opposed to our's that they simply can't coexist in any meaningful way.

>>53951625
I got fed up with it and have started tearing their arguements apart. Its funny because as soon as you step in, there's a rent a crowd of outraged PC police that release tirades of namecalling, strawmen, and ad hominem attacks. I guess they're not used to an opposing opinion disturbing their echo chamber.

>>53951735
what you say goes against the experience I had with the muslims I knew in high school and the muslims I still know today.

Most of them drank and went clubbing and wanted to fuck girls etc. If they grow up here, amongst normal aussies, most of them are way more preoccupied with schooling, work and trying to be happy. In time religion becomes less important to them. But we need to get rid of religious schools to speed up this process imo. There was a time islam went hand in hand with rationality and science, the current most popular brand of islam somewhat goes against that, but if they live in the west I really do believe we can breed out the retardedness of islam in time.

Also we should be actively trying to cut ties with saudi arabia and undermine their influence. Wahabbism and arabification is cancer, and they're using their money to spread it.

>>53951817
arguing on facebook is even worse than arguing on 4chan

>>53951880
Anecdotal evidence doesn't speak for the majority.

>>53951918
I know but it shows an opportunity we should be taking advantage of.

>>53951880
>what you say goes against the experience I had with the muslims I knew in high school and the muslims I still know today.
>Most of them drank and went clubbing and wanted to fuck girls etc.

Your first mistake is to conflate "Muslim" with "Arab".

Islam is a religion, and they are not following it if they're drinking. But their culture is such that they have to live double lives where they hide what they really believe and do from their parents. This causes huge stress. Some of the girls get sent off to arranged marriages, or honor killed too.

A big problem is that many of these second genners get conned into joining up with Jihadis because they feel they haven't been "good muslims". They might break from Islam a bit, but they lack the ideological rationale to stay away from it. They aren't fully secular. They will still belive in Allah, and that Islam is good, etc. They're just hypocrites.

>>53951966
Not really. Just because you've had positive experiences, doesn't negate the fact that more and more young 2nd and 3rd generation muslims in western countries are radical.

>>53951102
goddam

Just as hollow and phony as every other election ad. Surprisingly white, which I guarantee is gonna cause some butthurt.

I personally want Bernie to win the election

I am not trolling. I think this guy might "europeanize" America a bit. And I consider that it is a good thing.

Europe and America, including Canada, shouldn't live the ones apart from the others. If we become a strong and friendly union of nations we would advance a lot. Look at all our potential separated, imagine it now united.

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such a stupid: why there is no words? only shouting nigs and MERICA. Trump says truth at least to take popularity.
Downvoted this. Don't vote him guys, or you will not be #1 country

>>53951880
Australia has done a much better job of integration than Europe in this regard, but keep in mind that they're only about 1% of our population. The amount of trouble they cause already is beyond disproportionate. You don't hear a squeak from the Buddhists or Sikhs, who each make up over 2% respectively.

Also don't bother with anecdotal evidence next time, it means nothing.

>>53952104
>"europeanize" America
>a good thing

Look at the state of your shitty continent, I mean jesus you guys make the States look attractive and that's saying something.

>>53952138

100% of the problems Europe faces are due to Muslim immigrants.

>>53952138
But doesn't Australia already do a lot of what Bernie proposes?

>>53952198
We're a sort of middle ground between between Europe and America economically and socially I suppose.

>>53952194
>100% of the problems Europe faces are due to Muslim immigrants
It's not that simple. Corruption, the destruction of the democratic process and the nation state, a war on European culture, are all part of the elite's plan for 21st century Europe. This isn't conspiracy, the bureaucrats at Brussels have pubically admitted their aims. Islam is simply a symptom of a more endemic and systematic problem.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-18519395

>>53952217
Then being a bit more like you all with regard to expanding the welfare state shouldn't be a big deal. I think the US has moved a good amount to the left socially, arguably more so that Australia, but we have enormous steps to take with things like inequality, economic policy and with expanding welfare.

>>53952138
You did not understand me

By "europeanize" America I was not saying to bring lots of refugees and creating lots of different independent nations to be cucked all of them and that

I mean the REAL european mentality, lifestyle and point of view.

Politicians are literally destroying Europe, we should created a federation like 20 years ago and they're still stealing money.

>>53949270
Default video with default nice music. Showed me nothing about this candidate.

>>53952295
You've drifted Left only in the petty issues that don't matter, or serve to divide your society along ethnic and class lines.

So yes, hopefully you can begin to make meaningful changes that will put you on par with other Anglo and OECD countries. There's no reason why you shouldn't be, being the richest and most powerful country on earth.

>>53952301
Agreed. I want the state to have far more power, for us to have multiple parties and to move closer to a parliamentary system, and for the state to ensure a minimum standard of living. I think these pretty well represent Euro values. I'm not holding my breath though.

>>53950448
>yeah coz that won't hurt the economy or face legal challenges
lol not really

>>53952270

The officials need new people to fill demographic holes. They need this to keep the economy growing and to have enough new workers to pay for those who retire. They massively underestimated how shitty Muslim immigrants are though. They are thinking that if they just bury how shitty they are in a few generations they'll integrate.

We need to find a different solution to the demographic problems so we can stop the need to import muzzies.

>>53951125
this is why Hillary is going to lose,
its so fucking insincere and petulant.

She cant say something like that herself so she uses proxies to try and force some political controversy.
I remember Hillary's PAC also funded the fuck h8 people putting bernies name on their bullshit.
She's by far the most experienced, credentialed candidate but has run a completely nothing campaign devoid of any real meaning and sentiment.

>>53952444

I really want her to go down and for the election to be Trump vs. Sanders. Both are for single payer healthcare (for some reason /pol/ only flips out over it if you're a socialist) and both are against the TPP. These are the top two issues right now.

>>53952372
A big problem is the left is too concerned about social shit as opposed to problems that are so much bigger like oligarchs buying up enormous amounts of power through lobbying or the fact that if you loose your jobs you could seriously be fucked. The democrats are republicans are actually not split even. Dems have SIGNIFICANTLY more members. But they concern themselves to much with pop politics like DUDE WEED and black lives matter. But who knows, maybe we'll see some change.

>>53950312
He appeals to weeb losers

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rick-wilson-donald-trump-single-men?utm_content=buffer33bfc&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

>>53952104
No offense Spain, but I really don't want to end up like your country.

>>53951416
A sikh killed 100 infidels?

>>53953328
Yeah he was a pretty sikh individual

>>53953328
>>53953402

neat.

>>53949932
>Simon & Garfunkel
>Not for young people
Pick one.

>>53951335
we literally went to war because of you

>>53951286
>This idea would be destroyed.
Then how did Obamacare get passed?
QED

>>53949270

Kinda meh. I've seen worse, but it's not particularly exciting either.

I get the attempt to say something along the lines "this is us, I'm one of us, I love you the way you are, one with the people" etc but it does not come across as very rousing or convincing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XikR025wM&feature=youtu.be

Meh, at least he's not Hillary or Trump.

>>53949270
dont give a f

lmao all these videos. This is a normal thing in the US?

>>53956121

Trump is my #2 choice.

Make America Great Again :)