I think you can live in Bulgaria without pasosh, no joke, just go to the friendship club and have them give you a paper that lets you live there permanently.
fact. any good english language documentaries on yugo breakup / wars? inb4 weight of chains
>inb4 weight of chains
my chain weights a lot
after that watch balkankan if you haven't and you're interested in balkan, great macedonian dark comedy and it takes place in lots of balk countries
has eng subs
i think couz its associated with >>53935306
"white pride" "fuck the muslims", but partly its an analogy to show how fuckin' absurd the war was
watch the movie if ur interested >>53935007
>Ražnatović was assassinated, on Saturday, 15 January 2000, 17:05 GMT, in the lobby of Belgrade's elite InterContinental Hotel,
he had a good run kek
This guy is a criminal. I don't know how serbs can glorify him when long time he was involved in criminal activities which damaged serbias economy heavily. Not to mention that, although just a guess, he probably commited plenty of crimes in the war
a very popular serbian movie depicted just that - him being a criminal, hes infamous if you will, some people admire him for fighting on their side against the fascisti and the west, others don't like him because he commited crimes ruining their image, its complicated, just like everything about that war
This. Criminals can't be war heroes. All paramilitary units in the yugo wars were literally bandits with a licence and a uniform. The same with our "lions" in 2001, most were fucking petty criminals and thugs.
>The same with our "lions" in 2001, most were fucking petty criminals and thugs.
excuse me? we never did anything wrong in 2001, if we did NATO would make sure to remind us every year, we simply defended ourselves after those goatfuckers started kidnapping random people and engraving their initials with knives into their backs.
Bulgaria is a heavily nationalistic country, I can very well imagine why we had numerous wars with every of you. If there's war again I'd rather volunteer today that tomorrow. However what I never understood of serbs and croats as wells, why always these crimes. Killing old people and others who never did some bad, just wanted to love their life in peace . Or also building concentration camps where people get starved to death in the 1990s...idk Man, that's gruesome, such people shouldn't be idealised in our time. There is a vid of a serbian soldier making a confession about his crimes...I gotta tell you that made me really sick
>excuse me? we never did anything wrong in 2001, if we did NATO would make sure to remind us every year, we simply defended ourselves after those goatfuckers started kidnapping random people and engraving their initials with knives into their backs.
Mate, i never said we did, i was referring only to the paramilitary unit "Lavovi" from 2001, they were most ex cons and bydlo thugs. And they didn't do anything at all.Its just that paramilitaries liek that, and Arkans always get the press, and are lionized for doing nothing of value, but the regular police and army who do all the fighting are forgotten.
maybe, but better bydlo thugs than nothing honestly, we did have some pretty based units
>maybe, but better bydlo thugs than nothing honestly
Yea, but we had something, we had regular police and army units, like the wolves.
>they were most ex cons and bydlo thugs
You clearly have no idea what are you talking about. "Lavovi" was a part of MVR at the time as a unit for special ops not some unofficial paramilitary unit that every alcoholic bydlo capable of shooting a weapon could join.
>he thinks exporting more to a nation is worse then importing more form one
Romania is balanced as fuck
its alright, i expected 70% wine
i have a friend whose studying in UK with a romanian pasosh and his parents are rich moldovans, probably some wine barons or something
Where does this beef with the Albanians come from? I mean was it always like that, even during yugo times? I'd like to understand their point of view. As I consider Macedonians being at least the same type of people like us I can very well imagine decades of discrimination towards minorities.
>You clearly have no idea what are you talking about. "Lavovi" was a part of MVR at the time as a unit for special ops not some unofficial paramilitary unit that every alcoholic bydlo capable of shooting a weapon could join.
They were official but they were made up of volunteers who were drunk bydlos and that whore Toni Mihajlovski, famous for absolutely nothing apart form having a stand off with our police. Im sure there were many good people there, but the fact is the ones in charge of the unit were criminals.
Albanians have a long history in fyrom, but they had coexisted for the most part and were barely Muslim at all. It's only recently with Kosovars in Skopje that are basically durkas, the rest (especially Struga) get along fine from what I understand
Some serb king cleansed them from our cities, then they served the turks and our population hated them, then during world wars they were hated, then the commies tried changing their names, then they tried to break up yugo, then they started the 01 conflict. among other things
weve always had around 10-15% albanians, in the west, it was fairly calm in yugo, because they were muslim, but not nationalistic at all, they just kinda were calm, after the kosovo war we got a massive influx of refugees, which we gave em citizenship for... some reason. they repaid our kindness with bullets and bombs, because we refused to set albanian as an official language mainly, instead of solving it with diplomacy, they armed themselves and kidnapped some workers from a factory in the mountains, ingraved their initials with a knfie into their back, they are savages man, and after kosovo, albanian nationalism has been revived, and its only growing, they are nationalistic and religious at the same time - a toxic combination
most of em are goatfucking uneducated savages, always were, but now they're nationalistic goatfucking uneducated savages.
Moldova is just sad...imagine Macedonia 4 times that poor and toy have Moldova. Post-communist crooks - we all have them. I cannot understand how a European country can be this run down. I feel sorry for the people there, probably they don't deserve it.
>Where does this beef with the Albanians come from?
history, the Albanians were always bandits and highwaymen in these parts, they stole and killed people, and when the Ottomans needed to punish some Christians somewhere they would send he Albanians to rape and pillage. They were the majority of the bashibozuk in Macedonia, then in World war 2 they did the same thing under Italian protection. They chimped out in 2001 because they wanted a separate country, after they were btfo and saw they weren't going to get support from the based ledgjend like that they switched to "ethnic rights" witch was bullshit considering every government since the very start has had an ethnic albanian government in coalition, they had the right to use and learn their language, in elementary and high school, they had their own tv stations , organizaitons e.t.c. what they weren't allowed to do was fly the Albanian flag, because, logically its a foreign flag, but they still did it, people here thought that was an attempt to create parallel authorities, they started an underground meth lag, disguised as a university, which normally wasn't recognized and then they chimped out.
basically: imagine if bulgaria gives refugee status, and later citizenship to some 2 million turks after a war breaks out in turkey, 1 year from that those same turks get pissed because you didn't make turkish a second official language, but instead of diplomacy, they form paramilitaries and begin attacking bulgarians in the mountains, they are uneducated, religious fundamentalists and they hate bulgarians, then 7 years from that, after NATO took the turks' side in their little insurgency, they have a nationalist awakening and they are nationalistic religious fundamentalists, and they hate bulgaria, they hate christianity and they want to incorporate you into turkey, its fucked up.
pertty much, I mean bulgarians know about kuzman kapidan right? he was a serdar in charge of defending the people of debar from albo raids kek
idk why, but I suspect NATO had a hand in it honestly, especially the "giving them citizenship" part
Much of this stuff sounds like legends though. From what I understand, the biggest part of the issues was taken in with Kosovars, which to a big degree radicalised the local albanians. How do you think this will end? Civil war?
As far as I've read majority of Moldovans surprisingly don't want an union with Romania. Furthermore taking in a piss poor country which would make 25% of the population at this stage isn't something Romania can want or afford I think.
because muh greater romania
romania is the biggest investor in moldova atm,almost every romanian wants the union to happen but it would mean to kill ourselves economically unless germany pumps us with monies like they did to poland
>because we refused to set albanian as an official language mainly
The question is why did you refuse?
You said it yourself 10-15% Albanians.
Why would you deny them their language.
What do you think this is? A fucking joke?
>but they had coexisted for the most part and were barely Muslim at all
Problems with Albanians date back even from Ottoman times. They were used by the Turks as mercenaries, they mostly roamed the mountains and descended down to raid Slavic villages.
One of our authors made a poem about it 150 years ago. In fact he won first place in Greece at the time.
>Basically, "O Armatolos" tells the story about the death of a legendary hero who protected the villagers from the brutal gangs of Gheg Albanians (Ghegis). The action in the poem takes place in the middle of the 19th century in the western regions of Macedonia, respectively the region between Galichnik, Reka, and the village Stan (all in present-day Republic of Macedonia).
So the conflict is nothing new.
he's talking out of his ass, 15% before kosova? naah
We'll let the shqips have their land if they chimp out. I personally won't fight for it, all I care about is skopje. Fuck the rest.
бpaт, cигypнo знaaт зa Бyгapитe зa Cepдapoт.
>Much of this stuff sounds like legends though. From what I understand, the biggest part of the issues was taken in with Kosovars
yes and no, that was the tipping point, but the problem was always there, Albos always were, are and going to be a fifth column, when the refugee crisis happened it shifted the delicate ethnic balance and allowed KLA veterans to infiltrate Macedonia. Thats what started the war.
why don't you allow the macedonians in mala prespa to learn in their language but you try to forcibly assimilate them 24/7 ? same shit, only you dont get flak for it because you're savages, you'd kill them if they tried to fight for their rights
>Why would you deny them their language.
Nobody tried or wanted to do this you inbred dipshit. There is a reason you goatfuckers can't speak Macedonian here, its because you never learned, its because you speak your black tongue everywhere.
>There is a reason you goatfuckers can't speak Macedonian here, its because you never learned, its because you speak your black tongue everywhere.
pretty much, refusal to assimilate is the NUMBER ONE issue with albanians here
Right to speak and learn your language =/= official language
You goatfuckers wanted Macedonia and Albanian to be on the same level legally, meaning i could go to court and the judge could speak Albanian to me without any problems, which is retarded since you niggers need to learn Macedonian, because you live in a foreign country called Macedonia.
Fat load of good that'll do when we'll get in even bigger debt to pay for all the infrastructure, administration and lobbying required for all that, plus the inevitable war with Russia since they still believe Moldova is their rightful clay.
No they live in their own country aka Ilirida. :^)
This issue seems to be very deep historically. I think a big part of today's problems though are related to foreign (Saudi) financed preachers at Mosques etc. It happens here too sometimes that they import such, but the agencies usually react quick and put them in jail or deport them. Having explored Bulgaria a lot I visited also regions mainly inhabited by muslims. Those people are very often more guest friendly than my ethnic countrymen tb h, it would take exactly foreign influence to radicalise them. Themselves they'd never have such an idea . I think in Macedonia it was quite similar.
saudi shits are a problem everywhere, they radicalize in bosnia, in here, in bulgaria, in turkey, why can't some one nuke those cancerous fucks
but even without them
we are pretty incompatible with albos
our religion is opposite (muslims living with orthodox)
our language is opposite (slavic compared to black tongue of mordor)
and they have this backwards ass boonie "blood feud" culture that just doesn't belong in a modern society, those people belong in mountains in north albania gutting each other, not pretending to work in our institutions.
no, there is at least a few ten thousand people including kids, they dont even allow them to attend school in their language, its vicious assimilation, if we did that, NATO would fuckin bomb us.
Just like you "fought" in the last two world wars, didn't you, you fat faggot?
No thanks. We're right next to them, and you niggers will throw us to the wolves because it's politically prudent.
You'll be fucked more than us
Western europe will see white flight to the new world
Eastern europe emigration and brain drain to western europe, leaving behind shitty 2nd rate countries. In the balkans this times 2
We'll lose land to the albos.
You'll have problems with the million gyppos you've allowed to reproduce and the equal number of turks while your best people emigrate.
Greece, Serbia and other Ex-Yu still have a chance to see better days.
nah i know, i have a new coworker, he is a Turk, and he is very modest and very hard working, he doesn't even speak Turkish, in their village they only speak Macedonian even though they are Turks, not Torbesh.
nah man, bulgarian birthrate is higher than all of ex-yu, and last time i checked they dont have over 20% mudslimes, i think they're okay
croats are kinda fucked but at least they're homogenous, 4 million people and decreasing
shut the fuck up you faggot,don't you insult the great lejend usa,they're the only ones who can keep us russian free if shit goes south
also "america didn't do shit in ww2" is a meme,they gave the russians a lot of shit plus the pacific theater which everybody forgets
>We're right next to them, and you niggers will throw us to the wolves because it's politically prudent.
>Implying there was any way they would have left us with the Allied Side at Yalta, given our geographical position.
>nah man, bulgarian birthrate is higher than all of ex-yu
>mfw you will never be a an armored tank of absolute destruction charging into dirty mudslimes and caving their heads in for god and the emperor
why live lads ;_;
Greece is being invaded by Africa.
Serbia, I dunno, I feel like they also have a serious brain drain and a credibility problem with the Powers.
Croatia, Slovenia, Montenegro--all the best to them, I'd love to see prosperous Western Balkans.
I still have hopes that local gypsies are slowly being civilized--at least in Sofia, most of them work, as taxi drivers and cleaners. Turks, as I've mentioned above, are not really a problem, they are a net plus to the society.
>They gave the russians a lot of shit
Boy what a bunch of great pals, giving them so much shit while they were bleeding us dry for more money than we were supposed to pay as war reparations and straight up throwing King Michael's plea for help in the trash bin.
You should ask for some advice from our resident anon who has one.
That's the funniest thing with the turks here, most of them don't know a single word turkish. The young ones anyway, but even most of the older ones. They run away in masses though. Tb h it is a bit sad, with a better management of the whole country after communism collapsed they could have been just as regular citizens as the rest. Most here don't have a problem with them. The issue comes from their (finally dying) minority party and the right wing parties. Both sides are very populist and exist only to steal and to keep the population under stress. However with increasing wealth people start giving less and less fucks.
I've been infected by this fucking mongolian kumis-preparation forum, we have some gypsy chicks that clean the office complex where I work at, one of them is fucking beautiful. I blame you, Klime.
So tell me lads, what is the overall opinion on grown men sleeping with 14-15-16 year old girls in your countries?
Are you USA-tier "muh death sentence for sex before marriage with a sub-18 year old girl", or are you like, "it's totally fine and natural for a 30 year old dude to pork a 14 year old"?
what this guy said >>53938652
also boiko will remain for a while, idk man, boiko seems like a guy who has it all figured out, I'd believe in him if i was bulgarian
turks ARE balkanshits
but the best part about turks is that turk girls are amazing lips
age of consent on average is like 14-15, but 30 year old with 14-15 year old? that's frowned upon obviously, 20 year old with 15 year old? not really not at all
idk, boiko seems like he knows what hes doing to me
>There are good politicians, honest ones
alright good one man
>I'd believe in him if i was bulgarian
>if i was bulgarian
im that guy ama
but like I said
She is half gypsy and educated and assimilated
The main difference between an educated and assimilated half-gypsy between you and me, is only skin color, really.
>Boiko is a piece of shit.
If not him then who?
Aз cъм мнoгo ЗA Paдaн и Плeвнeлиeв, нo нapoдa нe ги хapecвa, зaщoтo нapoдa мacoвo e ceляци, и нe мoжeш дa ги пpoмeниш. Знaчи цeлитe нa PБ тpябвa дa бъдaт пocтигнaти чpeз кoaлиции c дpyги пapтии.
The integrated gypsies are fine. They are humble and civilized, even though still mostly poor. The whole issue with the gypsies is that the country allowed them to live in ghettos. They should have been separated and assimilated living with white folks.
>"it's totally fine and natural for a 30 year old dude to pork a 14 year old"
If he wants to be called a pedo, and probably gets his face rearranged by someone.
You know who else was in the Marshall plan?
The Eastern countries, but the Kremlin Overlords said no.
And West Germany was within the allied sphere of influence because of the way they were parted between the occupiers as they fell(see pic.)
Radan ima visoko odobrenie, Plevneliev ne. Spored men ne se dulji na seltaci ili ne, ami na tova kakvo pishat mediite za tebe. Za jalost hora kato Peevski nyamat nikakva izgoda ot -naprimer- raboteshto pravosudie, I vseki koito im se izprechi biva nalyat s laina taka che masata hora da go vyarvat.
Eastern countries like east germany and pooland, but not us. We were never part of it. Austria also was part of it, even though they were occupied by the soviets as well.
Ifs or buts are pointless. In the end we received no help, not even strong words or at least a token "Hey, knock it off."
We were supposed to pay 300 million dollars, but we ended up paying 500 million PLUS gold, gas, oil and coal and our entire political and intellectual class was butchered or sent to die digging the channel.
You know what we got when we threw off the soviets and denounced the Warsaw pact? A pat on the back and a bill for the IMF money we had to borrow to pay the russians.
Don't fucking kid yourself, man. We'll always be alone. We have no natural allies. We have no friends. We have no one. We're a pawn to America, almost as pathetic as Albania and Kosovo and the only reason they help us now is because it aligns with their interests, and they'll stop when it won't anymore. And then we'll just fall on ourselves, as we always do.
>he gets made fun of him over here even without the face
>posting the face will surely not get him doxxed
Balkan Confederation: dark blue (each nation appoints one leader that is equal to every other nation's leader, decisions can not be reached without the full consent of every nation state)
Vassals: blue (can join the confederation later on if behavior is well)
Constantinople Protectorate: light blue (when turkroaches are defeated, the capital will be moved from Athens to Constantinople and this will be the heart of the confederation)
There, I just fixed the Balkans for you guys. Post any questions.
>tfw you'll never get to party as hard as Lukashenko
We have a shared history of 900 years and we're still not friends, and we're both poor shitholes to boot. Yeah, it's not gonna happen.
I can assure you that they beg more money in a week than you earn in a month.
americans don't tend to abandon their investments that easily
also austrians are the ones responsible for both world wars,i hope they get fucked by all those """""""refugees'"""""
The eternal Austro will never get fucked.
Shame she doesn't do porn.
Austrians closed their borders, but damage's already done. Vienna looks like a shithole filled with graffiti.
Also they tend to do it when they stop being their interests and america seriously doesn't need a war right now considering they're splitting at the seams and are being kept alive by other nations because them collapsing would spell mondial collapse.
>Eastern countries like east germany and pooland, but not us. We were never part of it.
No, the ENTIRE Warsaw Pact. Including the USSR. But Russia wanted weapons and money, not food and infrastructure(and was an enemy at that point). Then she made her new puppet govs in Eastern Europe say no to american aid, because they wanted to go "communism stronk. We don't need no filthy imperialists to help us get back on our feet"
it the most liberal version, /balk/ includes moldova and eastern thrace, which bumps its population to 80 million and its GDP to around 1.3 - 1.5 billion - among the top 15 countries by nominal GDP - a force to be reckoned with
>tfw no way to upload and download someone else's feels and get high off feels
i'm more than certain that feels are measurable and it's possible to express them autistically with numbers and shit
>download tfw happy
>sorry, your brain is incompatible with said feel
>error f33l - insufficient dopamine receptor activity
>Darius now launched his chariots at those troops under Alexander's personal command, many of these were intercepted by the Agrianians and other javelin-throwers posted in front of the Companion cavalry. Those chariots who made it through the barrage of javelins charged the Macedonian lines, which responded by opening up their ranks, creating alleys through which the chariots passed harmlessly. The Hypaspist and the armed grooms of the cavalry then attacked and eliminated these survivors.
is that why romanians have a boner for germans?
i dont think they ever intend to come back to romania especially the younger germans dont really have a connection to their former homelands in the east i dont think anyone considers himself to be siebenbürgener
People of Sofia is meant to be a show of tolerance and acceptance, but its always a pot for racist jokes.
Why havent they stopped trying, it clearly isnt working and the Balkans are behind the times on this whole politically correctness culture thing.
Do Serbians really miss a mafia boss who was essentially a warlord playing despot inside their country?