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When did it all go wrong?
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Miss me yet?
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I think that when a country like Brasil finds a god tier president like Luis Ignacio Lula Da Silva, they should just go full North Korea and make him eternal president
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>>53894125
>>53894161
But Dilma is literally a Lula puppet.
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>>53894081
When it became a republic.
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When dictatorships ended

Literally lat america has always been advancing with a dictator or monarch.

I don't know why.
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>>53894125
>>53894161
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>>53894461
>Literally lat america has always been advancing with a dictator or monarch.

lmao what the fuck am I reading
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i only came to this thread to say this >>53894394
/thread
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>>53894581
Porfirio diaz and maximilian were modernizing the country

I know you may not care but whatever
Keep spewing memes
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>>53894461


musings of a taco eater
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09-07-2014 DESU
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>>53894693
but both of them are mexicans you silly willy, and one of them was a Habsburg at that

name one non-mexican lat american dictator that did anything right
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>>53894893

Emperor Pedro the second.
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>>53894693
Paraguay is the exact example of the opposite, since its dicator, made the country enter a bloody war which in fact, fucked then up really bad.
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>>53894893
>Fidel Castro
>Fulgencio Batista
>Augusto Pinochet
>Alfredo Stroessner
>Getulio Vargas
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>>53894924
>Dom Pedro the second will never rise from his grave to command this country again
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>>53894461
Eh, not really. At least ours. We had 6 coups along our history and one of them helped paving the way to Peronism (1943), two of them overthrew two of the actual good presidents we've had (1930 and 1966) and the last one ruined our country beyond repair and put us in shame (1978).
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Brazil needs their own Trump.
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>>53894976

I know Pedro's remains were brought back to Brazil?

What did you do to the remains of those who overthrew him?
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>>53894779
>Panama starts posting
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>>53894974
>any of those
>good
>american flag

C O N D O R
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>>53895198
>Paragay
Literally who
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>>53894081
>Nearly $4 billion in kickbacks to construction companies from Petrobras officials.
>Oil is now $26 dollars a barrel
>Zika virus
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>>53895105
We have one. Wouldn't get 10% of the vote, but it's the colset thing we have. I would ever vote for the meme righ-wing candidate before, but the situation is crazy enoguh that I'd consider
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>>53895363
*never
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>>53894937
>>53894893

I'm not familiar with paraguay history
They didn't have a golden time or something?
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>>53895363
Is he a billionaire mothafucka?
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>>53895198
>Hating based Vargas
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>>53895405
no but he says anything he wants (including that he wouldn't rape a congresswoman because she was too ugly)
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>>53895400

Compared to real countries Paragruay didn't even have a bronze time.
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>>53895400
Yes, immediatly after independence from Spain
Then the Triple Alliance War happened because of a warmongering psycho thinking he could take on 3 nations at once, one of them being a literal empire
We've been in a downward spiral ever since

>>53895480
Get off the computer Paco
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>>53895400
Yeah, they were one of the most advanced nations in the world. Then evil Brazil and Argentina, with the help of the envious english destroyed their utopia out of spite.

That's what they teach in their schools
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I wish Dom Pedro II still ruled Brazil to this day. Him giving up on the monarchy, after losing his second son, was the harshest blow this country has ever received.
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>>53895531

They have schools? Good for them, when did they get those?
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>>53895678
This. Discontinuity of power is always bad.

If he didn't want to have a monarchy anymore, he should've transitioned in a much better way; laying the cultural and governmental groundwork for a quality republic, not just throwing his hands up when a shitty coup happened.
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>>53895451
It's valid saying that said congresswoman is a retarded sjw leftist and was calling him a rapist out of nowhere.
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>>53895531
>That's what they teach in their schools

Who started this meme? Do all brazilians believe this?
Genuinely curious
Although it might've been true during dictatorship times, I'd ask my dad but meh
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>>53895704
probably around the time south brazilian farmers started buying and colonizing their land to plant soy.
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>>53895803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRPXWOS8MVc
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>>53895775

He was exiled, and the coup wanted to get RID of him, why the hell would they listen to him?
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>>53895405
Nah, he is just some discharged Army captain. He barely has a networth of 500k dollars.
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>>53895883
Okay? What does this prove? It was made by argies
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>>53896053
It's a general lefty perspective of the war and that era. If you talk to most historians (here or otherwise), that's the version they are inclined to teach. I have seen a few interviews with paraguayan teachers, and that's basically their mindset. I never said that average paraguayans actually believe this
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>>53895775
He wrote in letters that he only saw Brazil as a republic after him, since he didn't believe that his daughter would be able to make a decent Empress, and republics were the natural and enlightened way forward.
Too bad he was too tired after ruling for an entire life. He actually supressed any resistance from loyalists, and accepted his exile peacefully. :(
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>>53895779
>was calling him a rapist out of nowhere.

Except she never said that. Bolsonaro is just schizophrenic, i never actually heard him speak something that made any sense.
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>>53896150
He was raised from birth to rule. Literally the most well prepared man to ever run this country, and one of the few who cared about it at all. I really wish his son lived
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>>53896344

What exactly did Pedro do that has all the Brazilians in this thread respect him so much?
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what did lula do that he is regarded as a good president? isnt he a commie like dilma flintstone
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>>53894125
he is corrupt af
but the money didnt went directly to him, but to his son, if justice works for once here, they will both be arrested.
>>53894581
not you, your dictator was crazy

>>53895128
panama>mexico

>>53895405
based militar, he is more like putin than trump
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>>53895286
fuck off he's right.
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>>53896496

He's a populist. In his first mandate (2002-2006) he continued everything that FHC (ex-president from opposite party) made in economics, so it was good.

That's why people think he is great: because everything good FHC did he claims that was he doing. Of course he used a lot of Goebbels-tier propaganda for people to swallow it.

He changed on second mandate, now we are still collecting the rotten fruits he made.
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>>53896428
The emperor-scholar, always with a book at his side. Protected enlightment, freedom of expression and prevented the country from balkanizing and becoming a bunch of retarded dictatorship like spanish america. The man was raised to love his country and was loved by most. What's not to like about the guy?

He also fucked the british by sinking a few ships and not allowing them to gunship-diplomacy their way into forcing us to make bad deals with them
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>>53896496
He was very very lucky, but during his tenure Brazil grew a lot and became more richer/relevant.
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>>53896496
The point here is that he didn't do anything. Brazilians are just really ignorant about economy, so if it's growing they assumed it's because of the leader in charge and not because of commodities boom or economic engines like China and USA growing super fast and being hungry for Brazilian resources.
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>>53895054
Kek we could say the same about our cunt. Just change the numbers of coup d'état to 3. Peron to Getúlio Vargas. Peronism for populism and the dates. I've a feeling we won't have cash to pay international debts very soon
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>>53896428
He brought stability and growth to the country in a time of crisis. During the standoff with the british, that tried to use gunboat diplomacy on us, he stood his ground and international court ultimately decided on his favour. During the Paraguayan war, he wanted to lead the army himself, but the court ruled against it. He then went not as Emperor, but as he put it, as a Fatherland Volunteer. He also was a heavy supporter of abolisment of slavery, which ended up happening during his reign.
He was also heavily educated, maintaining friendships with various scholars around the world, like Dawkins and Nietzsche.
When you read about him, you can just tell that he loved his country and wished that his people lived better and happier lives, above everything else.
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>>53896428
It's a luso's internal Meme
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Populism, big government and corruption through most of our history.
Can't wait for PT to be dissolved.
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>>53896822
>>53896796
>>53896741


but are you saying this because you hate his party or is ther ereally 0 merit to what he did?

>>53896934
thats some nk tier propaganda
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>>53896927
>luso internal meme
not really. Most brazilians who are reasonably educated in their own history sort of like him. You don't need to be a monarchist to like D. Pedro II. There's just something regal and noble about the man that makes him the most remarkable leader we ever had
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>>53897024
There's literally zero merit. Even his populist welfare horseshit was made up by the government before him, he just put it in a nicer package and was charismatic enough to sell it to the poor and make himself a messiah. He's literally done nothing of value

Fernand Henrique Cardoso before him can at least be given some credit for creating the plano Real, which was fairly contested and controversial at the time, and today most people agree that it helped the country considerably. Lula is a worthless bag of shit
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>>53897024

Here's what most people really like about PT (see pic).

"Bolsa-Senpaiília" program should be called "how to buy electors".

Those who hate his party are, normally, people who trusted them and were betrayed or red-pilled people.
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>>53897271

Just adding this to your post, based anon: Lula was totally against Plano Real, saying it would only get the poor poorer.
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>>53897470
he was also against welfare, saying that the poor would sell their votes for food/money. I'm not even angry for disagreeing with him ideologically, be it left or right. His only ideology is money and power; he's literally an opportunistic snake. Anyone who still believes in him is either ignorant or a traitor
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>>53897505

I think so. Now that I noticed that my pic was incorrect, thx lol.

Dilma made her career mostly in there, right? Like when she her "pao e circo" store went bankrupt.
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>>53897353


poor people will always eat up populism, its like in tropa de elite 2
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don't listen to this guy >>53896741
it's completely wrong,

this one gets it: >>53896822
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>>53897505
Porto Alegre is very strong in leftism, the countryside is who votes for the right most of the time.

I lived there during the elections and even some rightwing and central people disliked Aécio.

The media manipulating the news to make Dilma look bad and Aécio look good was also a common topic, in the end, it's easy to understand why she won there. If PSDB had a slightly better candidate (maybe even FHC) I bet they would have won.
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>>53894081
when portugal imported millions of sub saharian african slaves
>>53894461
mexicans dictatorships were god tier m8
nothing to do with south american ones
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>>53895340

>zika virus is already in north america

Keep laughing, m9.
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>>53900061
and they should, it affect only hot weather places
you know where is hot? mexico
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>>53895451
I don't think he believes half the shit he says, he's just playing a role. Just like all the others.
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>>53896428
Also he ended slavery. And he looked absolutely outstanding.
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>>53894081
But I love their music. It's sublime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzvPffbyBK0&app=desktop
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