>Massive resources >good and improving demographics >huge

Hmm. No.

>>53837880
lol?

>>53837880
>huge population
>almost the same as Japan
What

>>good and improving demographics
>sub-replacement fertility rates
What?!


>>socially conservative, nationalistic population
>the highest abortion, HIV and heroin addiction rates in Europe
What???!!!

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>>53837978
don't laugh now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6OvElYnaZA

>>53838165
Are you churka on krokodil with hiv and abort?

>>53837880

Russians don't and will never give a shit about Europeans.

>>53838244
Anyone who says painful truth about our cuntry is churka on krokodil?

>>53837880
>good and improving demographics
No. Russian regions are dying. Russians are 30-50% of the population. Other ethnicities have their own countries within. They're not bros. Chuchmeks breed.
>socially conservative
A myth.
LGB? Russians love gays but for different reasons than westerners but love. Government's course have nothing to do with the nation, try to understand this. I'm not saying there isn't any natural hostility towards men who shag men but it's insignificant compared to those who give 0 fucks.
Look up: divorce rates, abortions. Conservative my ass.
>nationalistic population
You go to jail for this. Putin enforced multiculturalism. It was said and explained many times on /int/.

Ireland is a cool country btw. We have boos and average people probably see you as tough guys with fance culture or whatever.

>>53838401
Yes.

>>53838401
I am churk on croc. Why? Coz i can

>>53838380
We give. We love western Europe.

>>53837880
Test

>>53838598

>We would love to own western Europe.

fixded

>>53838244
I am a dead fetus. AMA.
What's your point?

>>53838634
You are not permitted to test here. Reported.

>>53838667
Is it banter? I don't mind bants, just answered seriously.

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>>53838519
>Russians love gays
Only young girls like this. Others hate gays and lesbians for different reasons

>>53838724
>mah superiority complex
Comrades, look, I'm peaceful, you just got me wrong.

>>53837880
>Massive resources
that literally just makes you a country people only care for because it happened to be somewhere with relevant stuff
>good and improving demographics
if by good and improving you mean the fact that muslim population is extremely growing, ok
>huge population
there is a dozen of countries that will surpass Russia in the next 40 years tbf, nothing really special
>socially conservative, nationalistic population
that's objectively bad for the future of the country

>>53838734
That's why we had an old flaming fag singing a gay song about blue moon and forbidden love on a new year night for like 20 years? Also people barely hate lesbians, they're not even taken seriously.

>>53838850
Are you talking to me?

>>53838854
>that's objectively bad for the future of the country
That is neither bad nor good for a country.

>>53838907
No, to Maslenitsa.

>>53839002
I see. It's maslenitsa yet that's why your post looks like some random words stuck toghether.

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>>53837880
le tricky baity-bait

>>53839145
>hru hru hru hru wooiiiii
I'm sorry, what?

>>53839245
Fuck you and your shitposting.

>>53839342
Shut up, bydlo. You can't into a civilised discussions. Get back onto 2ch.

-t. people who haven't been to Russia. I was there in 2013, would not live in/10

>>53839459

I looked at some Russian towns on google maps and it looked like a cold Africa.

>>53838165
Russia does have a huge population relative to any other European country.

Its fertility rate has risen from 1.3 to 1.8 in only a decade, and will at this rate soon be replacement rate.

It has a socially conservative, nationalistic population.

>>53839517
You forgot to mention that our fertility rate is rising due to minority regions

>>53839620
Because that's not true.

>>53837880
ur mum is so fat she could be called a massive resource of lard lmao

>>53839505
>this, + commie blocks

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>>53839620
Lies.

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>>53837880
>Russiaboos

>Massive resources
Such a shame that Russia's economy relies on pretty much its resources alone

>good
No
>and improving demographics
When you're at rock bottom, there's only one way to go

>Huge population
Not compared to its size

>socially conservative
That doesn't stop them from having Africa-tier AIDS rates

>nationalistic population
If only they weren't a dictatorship

>When did you realise that Russia is going to be the only major player in Europe in a few decades
Considering they're strictly inferior pretty much across the board to Germany, France, the UK and even Italy despite having about twice their populations and many times their territory.... yeah, nah.

>>53839658
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia#Total_fertility_rates
>In 2009, 8 of Russia's federal subjects had a TFR above 2.1 children per woman (the approximate minimum required to ensure population replacement). These federal subjects are Chechnya (3.38), Tuva (2.81), Ust-Orda Buryat Okrug (2.73), Agin-Buryat Okrug (2.63), Komi-Permyak (2.16), Evenk Okrug (2.58), Altai Republic (2.36), Nenets Autonomous Okrug (2.1). Of these federal subjects, four have an ethnic Russian majority (Altai, Evenk, Ust-Orda and Nenets).[58][59]

I'm sorry Tovarich, but your ebin neo-Soviet union isn't going to conquer Europe and overtake America.

>M-muh Putin riding a bear tho

>>53839658
>>53839620
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2013/10/23/is-russia-turning-muslim/#2715e4857a0b24713fe15688

In 2011 the difference between ethnic Russian/Slavic areas and Muslim areas was small, and since then it has vanished to nothing

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>>53839788
Russia is the only player that doesn't need to import resources.

>>53839788
In 2011 the rate in all Muslim/non slavic regions was 1.94, or about 0.35 higher than the rest of Russia.

Since then, the difference has moved to more or less nothing. Translate this page to English

http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/2015/demo/edn11-15.htm

It shows a large decline in Muslim fertility.

>No

Russia has a higher birth rate than the USA and every European country except Iceland and Ireland.

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>>53837880
>whole economy solely dependent on fossil fuels
>completely irrelevant everywhere outside the energy market
>major player

Dude, as soon energent prices change they start feeling the heat. Russia is as stable as a vegan feminist.

>>53840086
no.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2015/04/25/russias-economy-not-just-natural-resources/#2715e4857a0b2e2a59fe1b3b

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>>5383979

>>53840175
us kill

>>53840175
see:

>>53839901

>>53840086
>Although we won the race against the Soviets to place a man on the moon, the United States can no longer send an astronaut into space without Russia’s help. Nor can the U.S. launch the Atlas V–used to put heavy national security satellites into orbit – without use of the Russian-made RD-180 rocket engine.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/12/24/the-u-s-bind-over-a-ban-on-russian-rocket-engines/

>ULA Orders 20 More Russian RD-180 Rocket Engines
http://spacenews.com/ula-orders-20-more-rd-180-rocket-engines/

>>53840175
>blondest region in Russia
>11,4% growth

Must be the spirit of Alexander Nevsky.

>>53840175

Fertile Ural

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>>53840158

That can mean a whole lot of shit. GDP counts in all kinds of spending. Even if you just keep passing money around it's gonna pump up the GDP and it begins to be useless to present the state of an economy.

If Russian economy is really so independent on oil, where is everything else? What is there to show?

Have you seen any modern day russian cars on the roads? There are not that many on theirs as well. Any russian high-tech companies? Any russian goods that you might be able to find on your store shelves?

>>53837880
>>Massive resources
>>good and improving demographics
>>huge population
>>socially conservative, nationalistic population
I guess fucking Nigeria will be a major player too

>>53840988
Nice shitpost

actual facts say you're wrong

>>53841051
They don't have the same genetic potential as Russia.

>>53839848
>Russia is the only player that doesn't need to import resources.
It needs to import food, the most important resource of all. Unsurprisingly, the Netherlands is/was one of its most important import partners. You know, because we care about feeding our people?

>>53839901
>The muslim fertility rate has moved from the highest in Russia to closer approach that of the Russian majority
>Which is still below replacement level
Nice try comerade Patrick.

>Russia has a higher birth rate than the USA and every European country except Iceland and Ireland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_fertility_rate#Country_ranking_by_verified_TFR_and_estimate

Kek.
>M-muh untranslated Kremlin source tho. Don't believe American propaganda, Russia stronk! A-Amerikkka will fall any day now!

>>53840086
>Dude, as soon energent prices change
Why wait for that? They already felt the heat when America sicced their Saudi lapdog on them.

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>>53841165
>actual facts
>the article author couldn't even name one other important product from russia

>>53841243
>Why wait for that? They already felt the heat when America sicced their Saudi lapdog on them.

Tru dat

>>53841165
>genetic potential
>>>pol
How can you be so stupid?

In a few years massive amount of Swedes will start immigrating to Russia due to the shifting demographics of our country and the surplus of women in Russia.

Will they be welcomed?

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>>53840988
>There are not that many on theirs as well.

Most sold car in Russia is the Lada Granta.

http://russia-insider.com/en/business/top-10-bestselling-cars-russia/ri10490

>Any russian high-tech companies?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosatom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rostec
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscosmos_State_Corporation

>>53841435
>any people
>welcomed in russia
mate, our government really don't care about people living here. They just sell fucken oil and gas to europe. They don't intrested in developing of economy. They don't need to any people living here.

>>53841620
>Most sold car in Russia is the Lada Granta.
Because most of Russians are poor and can buy only this shitty car

>>53841626
Idc about the government but the people, will neo-nazis hate us?

>>53841379
If you think all people in the world are the same genetically you're an idiot.

>>53841348
>the article author couldn't even name one other important product from russia

Because he didn't need to, the facts speak for themselves.

>>53841243
>Which is still below replacement level

Are you fucking stupid? Every white country has sub replacement fertility, what matters is Russia's fertility rate is rising. Plus Russia's birth rate is higher than UK, France, USA... every EU country except Iceland and Ireland.

And I said it has a higher birth rate, not fertility rate. It's fertility rate was approximately 1.8 in 2015 - higher than most of Europe.

>M-muh untranslated

Use google translate

>Kremlin

Does any other institute collect Russian demographic data? No.

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>>53841676
>Because most of Russians are poor and can buy only this shitty car

Good, good.

Russians are the most underrated /int/ posters imo

>>53841686
>Idc about the government but the people
Mate, before enter Russia, you have to go through shitloads of bureaucracy. I heard it's extremely hard to get work visa without paying to officials.
So, officials in Russia are not welcome you

>>53841769
here's your (You), I've had enough of your bait for one night.

>>53841909
good, go away

>>53841872
>Mate, before enter Russia, you have to go through shitloads of bureaucracy

Thats a good thing

>>53837880

>let me tell actual Russians about their country: the thread

>>53841999
>Thats a good thing
No, that's a bad thing, because people who really want to visit Russia have big problems with it.

>>53841872
Really? That sucks.

>>53841769
>Are you fucking stupid?
Guess so.

>Every white country has sub replacement fertility
And?

>what matters is Russia's fertility rate is rising.
Rising to where? Unless it's above replacement rate, I'm not impressed.

>Plus Russia's birth rate is higher than UK, France, USA... every EU country except Iceland and Ireland.
Wrong again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_birth_rate#Countries

Isn't it bed time for you, kid? You can always shitpost about how kewl Russia is and how it could totally kick evil Amerikkka's ass tomorrow.

>>53841909
I don't think it's bait, he actually believes this.

>>53842094
No its a good thing. The alternative is being flooded with migrants.

>>53841769
>If you think all people in the world are the same genetically you're an idiot.
All people - not, but average level doesn't depend on nation

>>53842097
Russia sucks.

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>>53842259
How can it sucks with such qt women and nice nature?

>>53839901
>Russia has a higher birth rate than the USA and every European country except Iceland and Ireland
That's a literal lie

>2015
>France 2.08
>UK 1.89
>Sweden 1.88
>US 1.87
>Norway 1.86
>Netherlands 1.78
>Belgium 1.78
>Georgia 1.76
>Finland 1.75
>Denmark 1.73
>Lichtenstein 1.69
>Armenia 1.64
>Russia 1.6

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_fertility_rate

>>53840459
>blondest region in Russia
uwat m8

>>53842132
>implying that there's no migrants from central asia shitholes in Russia
>implying that the main reason of imigrant crisis in germany is not welfire system, that allows you to don't do anything and get money, housing and healfcare, even if you're illigal imigrant

>>53842379
retarded government that cares only about itself

>>53842477
But what does it matter to you if the government is retarded? Can't you live a comfortable life anyway and ignore the politics?

>>53842398
2015
Russia
1.80
Are you blind or just idiot ?

>>53837880
Hahahahaha, hahaha hehe he he lol hahaha ah
lol. Only living here is tough quest, doing something in country you are must be a Jesus tier man.

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>>53842398
Western Siberia is the only place in Russia that has villages with 100% blonde hair.

>>53842477
>retarded government that cares only about itself
Like most governments of Europe.

>>53842572
I am using the third column, it seems correct since we're having a huge economic crisis now

>>53842656
Lol, it's full of Finno-ugric people and other Mongoloids

>>53842517
Yes it fucken matter because it's the huge fucken crisis here right now. Our currency drop 50% of cost, that leads to all imported goods now 2 times more expensive.
I even can't fucken find money to TOEFL and GRE exams to leave this shithole forever
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_financial_crisis_(2014%E2%80%93present)

>>53837880
>the irish germanboo literally gave up on germany

jej

>>53842132
also, see this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_immigrant_population

>>53842125
>Rising to where? Unless it's above replacement rate, I'm not impressed.

Like it or not, a fertility rate of 1.8 and rising is unparalleled in the west. (emphasis on rising)


>Wrong again.

nope.

According to official sources from each country's government, here are the rates:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States#Vital_statistics_2

USA: 12.5

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_Kingdom#Vital_statistics_since_1960

UK: 12

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France#Vital_statistics

France: 12.3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia#Vital_statistics

Russia: 13.3

Your source comes from the CIA... which doesn't make sense - how does the CIA have better knowledge of Russian birth rate than the Russian government?

>>53842953
All ethnic Russians from post Soviet states have free migration rights to Russia. There are tens of millions of them.

>>53843136
No, they don't have.

>>53842742
It's not correct. The number of births in Russia decreased very slightly in 2015 but the fertility rate actually increased.

http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/2015/demo/edn11-15.htm

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>>53843013
>Don't believe American propaganda lies! Russia stronk!

>>53843172
If you look at migration figures, most migrants to Russia are ethnic Russians.

For example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_demography_of_Kazakhstan#Mechanical_population_movement

>>53843136

Yet they choose to stay in the other post Soviet states.

>>53843172

There is/was some sort of a repatriation program. But maybe 300 people used it lel

>>53843213
So how does the CIA have better information on the Russian birth rate than the Russian government, who actually collects this data?

Do they have secret agents in Russia quietly cataloguing the millions of births there each year, unnoticed by the Russian government?

>>53843263
>Yet they choose to stay in the other post Soviet states.

No.. see:

>>53843249

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>>53843249
>If you look at migration figures, most migrants to Russia are ethnic Russians
I think this Irish man is bait

>>53843249
Most of ethnic Russians leave other ex-ussr states in 1-2 years after dissolution, most of them had ussr passports, so they wasn't counted as immigrants

>>53843336
>Why doesn't Russia's highly questionable media have the best data?
I wonder.

>>53843415
see
>>53843249

>>53843387
Also the replacement level in Russia is 2.5 or so because of extremely low birth rates in 1990s and 2000s

>>53843453
Media? Who mentioned media? I'm sourcing Rosstat, Russian statistical agencies, the government... you know, the only people who actually collect this data?

CIA on the other hand do not collect this data... so their figures on the matter are more or less useless.

>>53843463
>let me tell you about your country
Пocoны, pacхoдимcя, тyт жиpyхa в тpeди.

>>53842125
>Isn't it bed time for you, kid?

Watch the edge, ageist shitlord.

>>53843518
>M-muh 100% reliable Russian sources

>>53843629
psssh... nothin' personnel.

>>53843518
Read this attentively

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia

>>53843629

nobody asked for your opinion stupid fatyfuck

>>53843387

How is Kazachstan related to Russia? Also pick a state with a higher HDI than Russia and then look at the statistics.

>>53843712
You still haven't answered.. regardless of how reliable the Russian government (the only ones who actually collect this data), how would the CIA have better information? Where would they get it from?

>>53843763
>How is Kazachstan related to Russia?
We're talking about countries whose inhabitants migrate to Russia a lot.

>>53843843

You kinda implied they migrate a lot from all post Soviet countries.

>>53843957
Kazakhstan is a post soviet country, I was using it as an example.

>>53843843
Immigrants from Kazakhstan are about 5% from the total immigrant population

>>53839383
I said nothing harmful. You harassed me.

Our stats are horrible yet that autistic Hollander is complaining. Why?

>>53841620
Fantastic an afterproduct of the Soviets, that's great I genuinly mean it but let's not pretend they are a great economical asset and that Russia has a great amount of advanced sectors.
It would be lovely if it were the case because if the Russians had a lot more we'd all eventually benefit from technological advancements.

Also looking how they are mostly not about profit it seems more to me they're mostly there to push Russian military interests.

Liberal scum are fucking crazy. You can't argue with facts. Go with your meme arguing somewhere else.

Irish guy you a the real mvp. My man.

When will Putin reform the economy?

>>53837880
>it's the Irish Russiaboo

Maybe if they get their shit together.

>>53839620
Not according to your government stats.

Either they are inaccurate for both, or they are accurate for both.

>>53847702
>you can't argue with facts
no, you can't

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia

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>>53848023
>that level of auto training
Birth rate in Russia per region

>>53848121
why are there so many of them in moscow?

>>53842398
Your stats are wrong.

>>53837880
>good and improving demographics
Since when?

>>53842742
I don't think every single country in the world has released 2015 birth stats after only 2 weeks.

>massive resources
http://www.shell.com/media/news-and-media-releases/2015/shell-to-install-nationwide-network-hydrogen-vehicle-fuelling-pumps-germany.html

>good and improving demographics
Insanely low fertility rate

>socially conservative, nationalistic population
Bydlo's, corruption, extortion, aids and abortions.

>When did you realise that Russia is going to be the only major player in Europe in a few decades
Not going to happen.

>>53843482
Not how it works Vladimir.

>>53843712
>CIA knows more information about Russian birth stats than Russia's government

Are you retarded or a troll?

>>53837880
>>Massive resources
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_disease

>>good and improving demographics
nigs, chinks and churkas

>>huge population
ridiculously empty, should be much bigger

>>socially conservative, nationalistic population
retards who crashed their economy with no survivors because of muh pride muh westerners, etc.

>>53848121
But Muslims are native to Russia and can be nationalist and Islam is conservative.

Am I missing something?

>>53848199
Immigrants.

>>53848133
So Muslim birth rates in 2012 were higher. Wow you sure proved him wrong.

What matters is that ethnic Russian birth rates are rising. Russiaboo posted a government source stating that for 2015, which is much more accurate than a CIA ESTIMATE.
Though I expect them to drop in 2016 because of the economy.

>>53848218
Good? Maybe.
Improving? Yeah, since 2000.

God saves the Serb, and so he will also save Russians by extension.

>>53848317
>insanely low fertility rate

May I have a source for this claim?

Keep in mind Worst Korea's birth rate was 1.3 in 2014 (the last year official stats are available).

>>53848491
>What matters is that ethnic Russian birth rates are rising. Russiaboo posted a government source stating that for 2015
>ethnic Russians
You sure? I've read other stats in Russian

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>>53848371
>retards who crashed their economy with no survivors because of muh pride muh westerners, etc.

>they don't import MUH APPLES ANYMORE THEIR ECONOMY WILL CRASH

Stop this butthurt. You're now aware Russia produces pasta, cheese, yogurt, wine, beverages, chocolates, candies and even ice cream.

>>53848564
You're right. I just looked it up and their fertility rate is just low now.

It has been 1.2 in the past and i still had that in my head. Especially considering most slavic countries have a low ferility rate.

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>>53848568
No ethnic stats for 2015.

I assume they don't ask for ethnicity at birth?

>>53848721
Yeah. Their economic growth 2000-2014 helped them a lot.

2015 saw a momentum effect that raised TFR to 1.77.

2016 will likely see a decrease, and you'll see some increased "rich" Russian emigration and muslim emigration as well.

Russia's economy is currently pretty fucked. But then again it got pretty fucked in 1991, 1998, and 2008. They'll have to figure their shit out.

>>53837880
Your predictions about Russia are probably as accurate as your last predictions about Germany you posed here many times.