>>53807437 >overrated >Access to fast Internet >reliable electric grid >world class health care >generous welfare >stable state (OK, maybe not Belgium but most other FWC) >peaceful people >hard labour is mostly automated >children go to school >able to retire comfortably >etc
>>53807668 What the fuck does being rich have to do with anything? We're comparing averages and on averages people aren't, by definition, rich. And then you talk about me being the spoiled brat, some fucking cognitive dissonance there, mate.
>>53807769 >We're comparing averages and on averages people aren't, by definition, rich.
That is true but someone average from a rich country is wealthier than someone average from a poor country. These are the top countries by average wage per month. Numbers are in dollars. See anything in common among them? Meanwhile, in my country, earning 1600 reais, that's over 400 dollars a month.
And all this data doesn't take into account infrastructures, education, healthcare, public security, crime, disease, life quality in general and so on.
You and your Belgian friend denying 1st world country privilege are clearly wrong. If you honestly believe it's about hard work, then it's because you chose too. But if you are not willingfully ignorant, then this data should make things clearer.
>>53807894 I'm the one arguing that we are lucky to live in the countries we do. I just found his "reasoning" to be rather peculiar. "Not a problem with money" is not an argument and isn't adressing the fact that we are incredibly lucky to be born where we were. Having a comfortable life is not overrated like he seem to think.
>>53808253 You say that but billions of people would like nothing more than to swap places with you. You've gotten so used to how well off we are that you are no longer capable of appreciating it. Are you a communist by any chance?
>>53808325 >communist No dude, I just travelled around a lot. And I saw that life can be very good also outside the traditional first world. You can get a good medical support over an affordable insurance in India for example.
Don't be a retard and have a job will make you quite well off in a lot of places in this world.
>>53808070 Tax as percentage of GDP: -Germany: 40.6% -Lesotho: 42%
GDP per capita: -Germany: 46.2 K USD -Lesotho: 1.1 K USD
Your argument is invalid.
>>53808253 Air conditioner, healthcare, live in a safe neighbrohood, less crime, lower chance of disease, lower chance of being raped, robbed, killed, walk in clean streets, have a car instead of taking a full bus, have a job that you don't have to run the risk of dying just to do it everyday, have education, go to college, pay for a decent diet, pay gym subscription, internet, phone, etc. If you dont care about purchasing power you should give your money to the poor.
>>53808253 >An Audi instead a Toyota? More like an Audi instead of riding a full bus, filled with cockroaches and flies, where niggers can rob you and there wont be anyone to do a thing about it.
>A PS4 instead a ball?
More like a PS4 instead of having to work so much just to pay your bills that the only free time you have is the time you have to sleep; even if you have free time, going trough everything in a day makes you so tired that you dont have enough energy left to walk your way to the bathroom to have a shower.
>Gucci and Armani insteed of the same in fake and cheap? More like Gucci and Armani instead of being so poor your clothes are dirty and worn out, your shoes have holes on them and your shorts are ripped.
>Being able to travel in the world is the only advantage I can see from this.
More like having a higher literacy rate, higher life expectancy, better education, healthcare, lower mortality rates, less prone to getting diseases, less prone to be victim of crime, have decent hygiene, your roads have no holes on them, have a decent education, no poverty, you have the money to support your children, having children is even an option, you are safe, you sleep on a bed, you have a place to call home, you're able bodied...
>>53808325 You are a faggot >>53808456 >Don't be a retard and have a job will make you quite well off in a lot of places in this world. YEAH sure m8 When you are a german with free and good educatuon, parents that can support you And help from the goberment it must be REALLY easy to travel to a shithole like my country and find a decent job
>>53808456 I'm not saying that it is literally impossible to have a good life anywhere else. Just that in terms of economic freedom and overall security, first world countries, particularily in the west, are just plain better. We have lower crime rates, lower death rates, lower infancy mortality, longer life expectancy and so on and so forth. That is however not to say that I can't see the appeal of living on an island in the Caribbean.
>>53808479 Lesotho is not Brazil. Not all places are nice, but Brazil can be very nice.
Just abondon the welfare state here and you will have slum areas with all those crime and poverty here too. Also I pay 30% income tax, 21% consumer tax on all shit I buy, car tax, fuel tax is extreme etc. 70% of my earnings end up in the state.
There are some benefits in being born in Europe. But people overestimate them. You can have a miserable and unhappy life in Germany just as a happy and nice life in Turkey, Brazil, Russia, South Africa or China.
>>53808674 >Lesotho is not Brazil. Ok then. Let's compare Germany and Brazil.
Tax as percentage of GDP:
-Germany: 40.6% -Brazil: 34.4%
GDP per capita:
-Germany: 46.2 K USD -Brazil: 11.2 K USD
Oh look, you're wrong again. Are you going to insist on this?
>Just abondon the welfare state here and you will have slum areas with all those crime and poverty here too.
Brazil is a welfare state too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsa_Fam%C3%ADlia
^This is one of the many federal welfare programs. There are many other cases.
Also, if you abandon the welfare policies in both countries, both would improve singificantly. And Germany definetely wouldn't become a third world country. Lol.
>Also I pay 30% income tax, 21% consumer tax on all shit I buy, car tax, fuel tax is extreme etc. 70% of my earnings end up in the state.
Hahahaha that's less than I expected. Brazil has, on average, 30 to 70% of tax on consumers, depending on the goods. I wish I would pay 20% tax on everything I buy. You get some 5% more on personal income but on everything we buy we get at least 10% more that's a 5% more tax for Brazil in total if you really want the numbers.
> There are some benefits in being born in Europe. But people overestimate them. You can have a miserable and unhappy life in Germany just as a happy and nice life in Turkey, Brazil, Russia, South Africa or China.
Then let's change lives man. I always wanted to not live in a hellhole. You sound like one of those spiritually rich spoiled brats who thinks everything is peace and love because you never really had to went trough anything really hard in life. My mother had malaria and she died on my fucking arms. I called an ambulance but this shit healthcare didn't make it in time, it took them like 3 or 4 hours just to get home. You really have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
>>53809140 Maybe other anon can explain you better this because I really dont know, BUT it isnot the same to live in a house in your country than live in a house in my country, materials are different and other factors that makes you dont want to buy a fucking airconditioner
>>53809166 What difference does it make? Are you trying to come up with some ad hominem? I'm merely pointing out the facts, data and statistics and so far all you've done is say "hurr durr its not THAT different hoohoohooo". And regardless, I make R$ 1200 (~300 USD) a month. I'm not going trough everything that bothers me in life because that would be a long list and I'm not a tumblrite too.
>>53809277 I'm sorry that I didn't make a statistic during my travels. I don't even believe in statistics.
For example the USA is in lots of statistics like an African shithole. For example murder. But then you can see that most murder happens towards niggers and ordinary people aren't even affected by this. It still counts in the statistic.
And while we're on that topic, allow me to explain why there are no poor brazilians on /int/. If you're brazilian and you can speak English fluently, you're among the 5%. You have people here who need their academic papers translated. The demand is so great you don't need to be a professional, if you can just show someone you can translate shit then you can easily make 5 USD cents a word translating Portuguese <-> English academic papers. The first time I tried it as an amateur I translated 1.3k words of a biotechnology research paper in less than 3 hours, I wasn't even paying full attention. The professor said she was impressed with it, and do note that's a university professor who holds a PhD degree she most likely got from some university in Europe or the US. That's over 20 bucks an hour. And there's shitloads of demand for it, this isn't an odd job you pick up once a week. If word spreads you're doing it cheap and it's good enough, you'll have more requests than you can fill in your schedule. You wouldn't believe it, 5 cents a word is actually undercharging it. These cunts are desperate because they were too dumb to have learned English and now they're willing to pay you 20$/h for you to read and translate some shitty text for them.
Now I don't care where you live, if you're making 20$/h you're not poor. You might not be upper class, but that shit should let you live fairly fine. I could be wrong but that's more than the median personal income in the US.
Now if someone who lives in Brazil posts on /int/ with an English as clear as his, they're either not poor or literally retarded.
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