>tfw you are living in the worst period of your country's history
>tfw living in a non-period of your country's history
>tfw worst economy since the great depression and the 70's oil shocks
>it probably won't get better
>shittiest economy in decades
>just got a liberal meme primeminister
>ever moderated or good
>coming from am Argentine
80 years of government corruption and cheap populism leading to massive welfare culture, and you niggers still don't learn
this isnt the time for memes my friend
my country is dying
>80 years of government corruption and cheap populism leading to massive welfare culture, and you niggers still don't learn
You don't have any idea about argentinian history, do you?
>this isnt the time for memes
But it's time for memes all the time.
Just because everyone else is doing shittier, doesn't mean we are doing well.
Yep. Clinton pulled his dick out and got a blowjob from our former enemies instead of helping them, Bush felt like sticking his dick in a beehive, Obama said he would pull out but instead cummed.
Tu amada Cris hacia discursos nacionalistas para los bobos K como vos mientras regalaba recursos naturales a transnacionales como la Barrick Gold y Chevron entre otras (ni hablemos delos tratos con los chinos) y gracias a ellos debemos más guita, eso sin hablar la cántidad absurda de ñoquis nombrados en los últimos meses con guita del Estado que debería usarse en gastos reales. Pero alguien fanatizado con años de 678 como vos se cree la "resistencia" de parte del gobierno más corrupto de nuestra historia, segui llorando..
Golpes de estado, populismo dando lugar a vagancia y fanatismo, malas decisiones, militares al poder y por dios, como mierda podes defender a un gobierno que fue fracaso tras fracaso por 12 años?
Anda con tu barrilete cósmico pelotudo, en 1 mes queres arreglado el desastre de 12 años. Da tu opinión en 2 años y trata de no repetir lo que dicen tus viejos
Memes have no nationality. They are omnipresent.
America was better, stronger, and more optimistic in 2000.
Then 9/11, Bush, Financial crisis, Europe died in 2011, arabs started chimping out, Russia went absolute madman, and China's economy went down shitcreek with the little red book of market failure.
>America was better, stronger, and more optimistic in 2000
We were more placated and simplistically idealistic. I see you spouting this nonsense everywhere. What's your proof?
Quit being such a dummy.
Are you rich?
Because pic related
>not 1940 when England was being constantly fucked over by the Nazis
>not the fucking Bubonic plague of 1349: one of the worst periods of WORLD history not just UK
>not during the potato famine when 100s of thousands of people died
>not when there weren't vaccines and child mortality was a serious issue
>not any of these periods
but a bunch of fucking black people is your country's lowest period?
No, I'm skilled blue collar, and I make a fairly standard middle class living. I was working before and dieting the recession. I was fucking broke, but my life has improved drastically since then. So yeah, I say we're ok.
You mean the best economic performance in Argentinian history. Not really because or in spite of him.
Also, Argentina's GDP grew fast until 2012. 7% in 2010 and 4% in 2011.
2012 was when shit started going downhill.
The peso also peaked in 2012.
>1940 and Nazis
Actually we weren't being fucked over, we were holding our own pretty successfully.
>Bringing a plague into the equation despite it affecting Europe and southern England rather than the rest of the Island
wasn't Britain's fault and didn't affect 90% of Britain's territories
>Vaccines and child mortality
was rampant everywhere else.
No, people who are constantly wanting to change our laws to benefit them, but you can't see that since you don't live here
I'm not sure I understand your comment.
I responded to the original post thinking the anon was implying that the current period is the worst period in German history. This is just so wrong I don't even know where to begin.
Well you understand that you are just one case, and that these stats show Americans are poorer since 2000.
America's peak was in the 90's and early 2000's. BRICS were weak, no Islamists, Europe was strong, Japan was still number 2, and the average American was making more money.
Standard of life is better now, but that was a given. Relative to other countries we have declined. That may have been natural though.
>"Cualquiera que no sea K defiende a Macri"
>"Si critican al gobierno de corte populista demagogo (y garca) de los años K, significa que es de ultraderecha, odia al pueblo y seguro es rico"
Por que te pensás que tanta gente de cansó de los Kirchner, o que Scioli perdó en su propia provincia?
>seconde biggest recession in the world
>leftist woman president
acá no es /lat/ ni ochochan
sigamos con las discusiones serias pibe
i really want to give my best The Bride reaction face and say "bitch.. you don't even know what suffering is" but we're all on the same boat
importa si es Macri o Massa? hasta Biondi sería mejor.. si es que le dejan gobernar claro está. la Vieja pudrió todo y el puto venezolano ese también
Que argumentos dios, lee lo que escribí idiota. No defendí a macri si no que defendí al cambio, son 80 años de decadencia y seguis pensando que hacen algo de bien.
>asignación universal por hijo
>plan de Inmigración inexistente
Es el sueño del boliviano
In relative global power we have fallen pretty hard. But that might have been a given.
Agreed. We have recovered since 2008. A legislatively restrained Trump, or even a legislatively restrained Clinton would be okay.
Americans will do our best despite our government.
Oil's collapse helped the poor and middle class and hurt the rich. That wws great, but it'll start rising again soon enough.
Lo cómico es que aunque ganara Scioli iba a tener que tomar más o menos las mismas medidas. Todo el mundo tenía claro que había que devaluar y que lo de tapar el debalance entre gastos o ingresos imprimiendo guita a lo guaso era insostenible.
>you'd be in less shit
Indians don't have that luxury.
>half a million people died
>holding pretty well
compared to other countries? yes. Are you saying a period where half a million people died due to war is better than your current period? ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW?
How deluded do you have to be to make such a point?
>>Bringing a plague into the equation despite it affecting Europe and southern England rather than the rest of the Island
I fail to see how that refutes my point?
It affected the rest of Europe? So? Are you telling me that you'd rather live in a period when the plague was rampant in your country than live in the 21st century? For fuck's sake, man. How sheltered are you?!
>vaccines and immortality was rampant everywhere else
And? How is that supposed to be an argument of any sort? Just because everyone was being fucked over it's okay that you were fucked up as well?
Again, this is just an indicator of how much your quality of life has improved from those times.
Remember this thread is about people whining about how their country is in its worst period in all of their history! Are you saying you'd rather live in a time where child immortality was a serious concern over a time period where you can shitpost about it in the comfort of your house without fearing the plague and other viruses or maybe dropping dead at 25?
I will never understand you people.
This thread is actually upsetting me. Sure a lot of people are being hyperbolic but I genuinely believe that some people here are truly convinced that they're experiencing the worst of all time. That's what happens when you lose touch from reality and constantly expose yourself all the news about what's wrong with the world.
Los planea atraen inmigración de negros que no quieren trabajar y se quieren aprovechar de los planes sociales.
Los europeos vienen acá por el trabajo, no por el sistema de cosas gratis
Imagine being Swedish right now. We used to be in the top 20 now we're africa tier.
i know that feel bro, not a single day passed by without me thinking of running away from this place
Al fin y al cabo la argentina va seguir siendo un país en decadencia, perdonen chicos pero los años de gloria pasaron hace rato, quien sabe cuando lleguemos a tener un país en latinoamerica que no este completamente perdido de la luz de dios.
Brainwashed kirchnerist scum. What happened, you were a gnocci and your stream of free public money in exchange for no work ended? Boo-hoo motherfucker.
Don't forget it was you guys who said "if you don't like how this government is running the country, make a party go to elections and win them". Shit boy, it happened! Send Abal Medina my best wishes, and I hope you all die and burn in hell.
>This thread is actually upsetting me. Sure a lot of people are being hyperbolic but I genuinely believe that some people here are truly convinced that they're experiencing the worst of all time. That's what happens when you lose touch from reality and constantly expose yourself all the news about what's wrong with the world.
So much this.
Las acusaciones están bastante probadas papu, dejaron a la provincia que tiene más de un tercio de la población con un deuda impresionante y sin guita para pagar sueldos, y a medida que revisan números del Estado se están encontrando con agujeros por todos lados y nombramiento inflado de gente que no se puede explicar. Sabemos que esto fue común en este país, pero ni con Menem se dio a esta escala.
>they've spend a shit ton of money on military armaments
No they haven't. Their military has fallen into disrepair since the Falklands War and the only significant investment they've made since then was the purchase of a few shitty fighter jets from the Chinese. That's a miniscule amount of money compared to what they've lost through other programs, corruption, and fiscal irresponsibility that means no one in the world will be lending them any large amount of money for the next 10 years.
pero no vienen de a 5 millones. hace 100 años que pasó esa inmigración europea boludo
solo te quiero decir que con o sin planes igual iban paraguayos, pero a trabajar no a rascarse los huevos y delinquir tranquilos siempre que voten por La Cámpora
maybe you should get a better education and learn to speak English then, idiot.
great point. I had never considered this. Thank you for your intelligent response. I will keep this in mind.
>literally a failed state non-country
>economy hasn't rise even 3% in the last 20 years
>literally the most violent place in the world with a bunch of murders every hour
>forecast is literal hell on earth
Someone just turn off the lights please
Actually, most of our money was being wasted on mantaining lazy fucks in the public sector and the rest of it laundered never to be seen again.
The money spent on military doesn't even come close to 1/10 of that.
No one gives a shit about those islands, not even the previous government with their shitty bills or autistic speeches and all that crap, it was just a political tool.
No creo que tenga pensado eso, sería muy boludo. Pero una relevamiento para que vayan a la gente que los necesita posta, y no repartidos por punteros de PJ para comprar votos le daría mejor imagen.
I was memeing.
Syria is the only nation in the worst time in its history. Maybe Libya and Iraq as well. Large parts of your country being controlled by a literal terror state puts you pretty high on the "JUST FUCK MY COUNTRY UP" list.
You mean on 4chan.
I personally love the banter though. More happenings is usually fun, but, I guess in 2016 too many happenings are happening.
There's a serious chance we could have a global recession this year.
Top Gear is a shitty show and they were going to be chased away sooner or later, here or somewhere else.
Besides the producer fired Clarkson for some unrelated crap, but fired him in the end.
Man, I have seen news of his press in recent years, since the issue of the islands to irrelevant stuff related to the Soccer World Cup, the journalistic level was lame, exaggerating or just making up.
>Quoteame alguno que no sea de un mono acusándome de Kirchnerista.
Está bien. No esperaba que entiendas, tampoco:
No hay comentario entre tus citas que no sea una disgresión. Ninguno de esos comentarios argumenta nada. Me acusan de kirchnerista y atacan causas que nunca pretendí asumir. No soy kirchnerista. Supongo que el tu quoque y el rage intempestivo son los pilares de tus convicciones, no?
I disagree. 700000 people dying for any reason is bad. Though I agree apatheticism is a problem for modern Americans and Westerners.
In your view. Democrats are as bought by big business as Republicans.
Look at how much hate Trump and Bernie get.
what did you expect Obama was going to do behind the wheel? you can't unwreck a train wreck he tried to fix your appalling health standards with the little there is to use
>inb4 OBONGO DONE RUINED MAH COUNTRY NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
Worst time was in the '89 nigga, what are you talking about?
I mostly agree, 2000 was a peak. US conflicts did not directly affect mainland Americans. But this would contribute to our arrogance and complacency: we didn't care about Timor Leste, Somalia, Kosovo, and Kenya - and still don't.
Big picture 2016, the US is doing much better than other big actors
Russia: economic sanctions;
China: economic challenges;
It only feels like shit because it's campaign season and it's natural for us to point out problems.
Last 4 years were shit, but it's really far from being our worst ages, OP is just underage, that can't even remember 2001
he's not entirely wrong, things aren't gonna go well if we stay on course
Hannibal is at the gates
God, I fucking hate kircheristas so much.
He ended direct US involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.
This in turn lead to the rise of ISIS and this is the reason why they are still some troops in afghanistan.
The US pull out needs to be slower. We can't just leave one day. That leaves a power vacuum that terrorist can take advantage of.
Even if we have troops in afghanistan, they don't do much of the fighting. They are there for logistics and support. The fighting is done by afghanistan now.
Wat about premier too?
lol, honestly Harper wasn't helping the economy. Only MNC and big business. We are better off with trudeau because he is still willing to work with conservative MP's. Harper had non of it.
>tfw you may make history
also, could be worse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampjaar