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http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/business/article/russian-ministry-predicts-more-recession-lower-incomes-and-less-employment/555849.html

How are you Russian anons handling this?
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Send monie plox
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>>53674538
such a surprise
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>Sanctions will only make Russia stronger!
>You are going to hurt yourselves more than you will hurt Russia
Lmao, little weak Russia btfo
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>>53674538
kek
Everyone says the same for American economy. Nobody wants that dollar anymore
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>>53674638
>income
i heard that Putin said its good thing that citizens gonna earn more rubles
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>>53674638
Why are you happy, Slovenia? Russians crisis influnces your Eastern European slavic shithole as well.
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>>53674588
10 aud on the way :^)
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>>53674676
Who, that actually matters, is saying that?

Why is USD still growing if no one wants it?
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>>53674820
everyone wants the USD
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>>53674730
It doesn't

We've had strong growth and good exports this year

We are not dependent on your failed oilnigger country
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>>53674676
>Everyone says the same for American economy. Nobody wants that dollar anymore

Are you joking?

US unemployment rate - 5%

Highest GDP and highest salaries in the world - people come from all over the world to work in the US, people literally climb over the border and work doing construction for cash to live in the US

like 90% of top Universities are in the US
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> Tfw you spent more on a graphics card to play vodka than a Russian makes in a whole month or a babushka on pension does in two.

JUST
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>>53674638
>nominal
>2016 """""forecast"""""
>inflation completely out of date
>not comparing 2000 to 2015.

Into the trash it goes.
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>>53674538
when will we get our crimea back?
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>>53674638
His 2015 is still much higher than what it was than when he originally came into power.
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>>53674926
You are making claims that are false.
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>>53674926
u wot
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I'm unemployed.
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>>53674990
When you get nukes.
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>>53674899
Expect Ukraine's destiny. Each Eastern Euro cunt has ties with russia, trade and stuff.
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>mfw some cucked finnboy will come crying in how us and eu should stop bullying russia
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>>53675024

Considering Russia's USSR had just collapsed along with trying to switch to capitalism in a retarded way, it's not surprising if a moderately competent and less than absolutely corrupt leader could produce those results. Putin is only remarkable in that he was good enough with his KGB friends to keep basic law and order.
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>>53674638
butthurt
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>>53675144
That's wrong

We only need your gas

Our country had minimal ties with Russia before 1945. Now it just went back to normal

We belong with Germany
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>>53674538
>Russian economy doomed in 2016.
I'm happy to hear that.
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>>53675267
99 was the year of collapse and 20 years ago.
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>>53675166
russian dispora*
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>>53675203
It had been 9 years since the collapse.

Keeping law and order in Russia and being moderately less corrupt is an accomplishment to be honest.
Look at Ukraine, Central Asia, Mongolia, or much of the non-oil rich middle east.

Comparing GDP figures and attributing it to the man in charge is stupid anyways. They barely affect how the economy grows, foreign policy is what matters.
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It's doomed every 10 fucking years.
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>>53675267
I wanna see such pic describing obama's influence on US
because I guess he didn't make things any brighter for americans
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>>53675296
98
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Russian_financial_crisis

And you mean 17 years ago.
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>>53675360
GDP growth, lowest unemployment. The USA is doing better than ever actually, especially compared to any other developed country.
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>>53675269
The Ukraine is a perfect example of what would have happen with your country if it had chosen to mantain good relations with Russia

Russian influence means corruption, loss of sovereignty and collapse
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>>53675318

Yeah, I used "just collapsed" in a more loose term, since few countries recover quickly. Though there was another recession that nearly killed Russia in the late 1990s.
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>>53674638
It isn't about sanctions, it is more about our shitty 3d world resource economics.
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>>53675415
> USA is doing better than ever actually
pls
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>>53675273
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-15/economic-growth-in-u-s-cracking-under-strain-of-global-slowdown

Other people doing badly isn't exactly good for us.
This likely means Putin will have a scapegoat (sanctions), will be more agressive in foreign policy, and parts of Eastern Europe (Finland, Estonia, Ukraine, Poland) will be negatively effected in GDP.
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>>53675466
Give me data that suggest otherwise or stfu

That's not determined by your feelings
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>>53674926
Numbers can hide whatever you want, see:
Rusisna debt : 10.9%
USA debt: 104%
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>>53675466
It does, when there is a crisis in every major country they are growning, they are now independent energetically, have strong growth and money from all over the world run to the US
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>>53675421
this guy is pretty funny, reminds me of those idiots hating every single aspect of russian nationality
you folks won't take his shit talks any serious right?
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>>53675417
>The Ukraine
>The
FUCK THE SHIT OFF YOU FAGGOT
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>>53675269
If you'll refuse to be our lil bitch - you'll share Ukranian fate.
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>all those American cock suckers ITT
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>>53675510
>This likely means Putin will have a scapegoat (sanctions)
He would be in charge regardless, and people will always love him as long as Russia is better off than the Yeltsin years.
We might as well fuck with them.
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>>53675542
That number alone tells you nothing

Japan has higher debt rate than any other country in the world

Argentina's debt rate was pretty low compared to advanced countries and they defaulted
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>>53675466

We're certainly doing far better in relative terms than China, Russia, EU aside from Germany, and the other BRICS are. All we have are blacks being subpar as usual for whatever reason(nothing new) and the occasional Muslim thing which neither the EU, Russia, or China is immune to either.
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>>53675522
initially I was the one to ask proofs on US doing any good so far
don't reverse please and first show me those proofs, or I'll have to consider that you're just another shit talking third world pro-american scum :(
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>>53675542
>MUHHH DEBT
Even russian ministery of finance even NOW buying american loans because it's the most safe way of saving your money.
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>>53675661
>he doesnt suck the BAC
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>>53675542
You don't know shit about debt.
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>>53675417
What about China?

The Ukrainian crisis only happened because they did not mantain good relations with Russia.
Good relations with the EU has put them in a 20% recession and increased their debt to record highs.

>>53675420
In 1998. 1999 was a boom year that made up for the growth.

>>53675466
Not really. We've only grown about 16% in compounded terms compared to Russia's 5%.
Also, comparing unemployment figures is stupid because we count our Participation Rate differently than Europe and Russia.

Still, Russia is pretty fucked. Oil is a boom and bust industry.
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>>53675692
>buying loans that were going to default on
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>>53675600
We gave you a heart-felt "Fuck you" in the 90s and we're doing better than ever

More countries should break away from your chokehold
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>>53675542

We hold 70 percent of our own debt and 22 percent of the remaining debt is owed to meme cuck countries like Japan who would have to forgive it if we told them to. So our real external national debt is only eight percent.
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>>53675692
Is it? or is it to hold US balls in their hand and slowly crush them when needed ?
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>>53675814
that's not how bonds work you fucking imbecile
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>>53675814
Are you underage or retarded?
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>>53675672
> We're certainly doing far better in relative terms than China, Russia, EU aside from Germany, and the other BRICS are.
the question is how much better comparing to US say 30 years ago (relative to Soviet Union and Europe)
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>USA
>free
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>>53675662
Putin would still be in charge, but his public support levels would be much lower. For who would he have to blame?

Every politician is blamed for the economy. Yeltsin was blamed for fucking up the Russian economy. The Arab Spring was sparked by bad middle eastern economies. The USSR collapsed because of a bad economy. Many US presidents have been kicked out for bad economies.
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>>53675267
created union with belarus
russian player won wimbledon
became the chairman of summit
Put nato into place
Created the Eurasian Union
Won the ice hockey chanpionship
won the most medals

lmao faggotry
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I'm just glad I managed to build a new gaming rig before we have 100 rubles per dollar. It already cost me twice as much compared to 2013.
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>>53675947
>Russia
>Not free
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>>53674538
Moscow will be a part of Poland, and I'm ok with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRJF3FwhkVI
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>>53675781
implying you can. yoir location won't let you break with Russia.
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>>53676028
russian internet is more free than american
you can download porn, games and movies from trackers and you won't get into prison for that
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>>53675812
That's incorrect.

>>53675672
Relative? BRICS went from 4% of World GDP in 2000 to 20% in 2015.

Absolute terms we have always been richer than them so I don't get your point.
China is still growing 5-6% according to most analysts.
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>>53676028
>internet: partly free
lmao
At least I don't have to worry about letters and lawsuits when I download my torrents.
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Poland > USA
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>>53676028
>USA
>justice
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>>53676102
but talk shit about putin and you go to gulag
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>>53676061
everyone's okay with it
get those motherfuckers away from my country already, they aren't even russians, they are half-caucasian
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>>53674638
>Russia used to be home and protector of Slavs
>Slavs no longer want anything to do with it

This is madness, Eddington.
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>>53675960
Putin has better propaganda machine than anybody else you mentioned. People will keep blaming obama for their troubles and rally around the flag.
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>>53676102
>>53676118
>Downloading shit = freedom
>Write a blog post criticizing Putin
>It becomes popular
>Get thrown into jail
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>>53676110
I mean very recently, the last year and a half or so.
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>>53676161
No. MoscowTimes is the NYT of Russia and they talk nothing but shit about Putin.

None of them go to jail.
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>>53676161
you gotta eat less burgers, you are way too fat already
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>>53676102

You don't go to prison, usually it's between you and your cable company. They'll shut off your internet as a warning for the first time, next time they'll fine you, which you can contest in court.
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>>53676065
Why are you talking out of your ass?

You know nothing about relations of our countries and you can't find Slovakia on the map, so kindly shut the fuck up

Our exports to Russia are meme tier
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>>53674538
>Heфтянaя эpa ocтaлacь в пpoшлoм, Poccия пpoигpaлa кoнкypeнцию нa миpoвoм pынкe и oкaзaлacь в чиcлe нeyдaчникoв-дayншифтepoв, тo ecть тeх, ктo нaмepeннo нe cтpeмитcя к мaтepиaльным блaгaм и кaкoмy-либo paзвитию. Этo зaявил бывший глaвa Mинэкoнoмpaзвития, a нынe pyкoвoдитeль гocбaнкa Гepмaн Гpeф.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>53676175
>Russia used to be home and protector of Slavs
When?
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>>53676102
>>53676118
>piracy is freedom, freedom of speech is not
the slav is truly a slave, that exists only to fulfill primal desires. He is more animal than man.
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>>53674538
This is terrible what Putin done with that country :-/
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>>53676190
> literally describes US
> projects it onto russia
> enjoys himself and his country
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>>53676188
So you're saying Western sanctions did not give Putin a scapegoat?

He's going to blame the West for low oil prices? The people who consume most of the world's oil? Even Russians are not dumb enough to believe that.
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>>53676175
Russia is pseudoslavic. we even don't use a slav latin letters.
Russia is just an empire.
Also Putin is liberal.
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>>53676211

>lose argument
>call Americans fat
>embarrass yourself
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>>53676215
le freedom
>>53676248
sweet dreams of a pole :)
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>>53676272
>enjoys himself and his country
You're putting words in my mouth. I'd rather live in Norway or Switzerland.

The USA is not a great country in a lot of ways, but it's far better than Russia in many aspects.
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>>53676272

No one has ever been jailed for criticizing the president in the United States. Not once. I challenge you to find someone who has been.
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>>53676194
China is still growing three times as fast as America with a stagnant population.

Our economy is growing 2% with a 1% population increase.

If it wasn't for China being a total dump, I'd prefer being Chinese in 2016.
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>>53676321

It's not state-run, atleast.
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>>53676375
And who has in Russia?

There are legitimate criticisms of Russia being worse than America. But that one is wrong and stupid and it explains why Russians hate us.

Blame Russia for their isolation after Crimea.
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>>53676394
>wanting to live with savage dogs
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>>53676190
>>53676254
Why don't you go to your blogs complaining about it? Didn't realize that american imageboard dwellers value dumb political shit over opportunity piracy offers,
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>>53676372
not really
your childs never will go in colledge by free
in Russia you even can go to MSU if you're a clever
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>USA
>freedom of press
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>>53676465
Did you not read my last sentence?

My roommate is a Chinese guy from Hong Kong. He's about as not-savage as it gets.
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>>53676394
>if China wasn't shit I'd live there
What a bold statement
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>>53676464
Krym naš

also you will be isolated for Serbia and Canada

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gni78FkSnKg
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>>53676484
Tы peaльнo тyпoй тaкoй, или бoт eбливый?
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>>53676471
>dumb political shit
this is why you will always be a slave, never understanding the glory of liberty and the tyranny brought upon by the government
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Poland, Russia, Belarus, France, Syria, Kazakhstan.. against USA
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>>53676510
Just go and tell him there's no difference between HKers and Mainlanders

I'd want to see his reaction
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>>53676464

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/08/13/ive-been-arrested-at-six-anti-putin-protests-in-russia/#2715e4857a0bacf214261ba2
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>>53676311
dont eat more burgers today pls
>>53676372
what are those? we've already discovered that russia is more free than modern america. let's see what else you got there :)
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>>53676288
TV viewers swallow all dumb shit state propaganda offers them, he can spin it as he likes.
Putin said in 2014 that the world economy will collapse if oil will be below $80. It was reported back then but nobody even mentions it here now. Free media would eat him alive but he's safe no matter what he says.
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KOSOWO JEST SERBSKIE

JEST SERBSKIE

JEST SERBSKIE

BYŁO I BĘDZIE
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>>53676484
>go to shitty """"free"""" russian university, earn a degree that isnt recognized anywhere
congrats
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>>53676594

The fuck are you talking about?
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>>53676471
>Russian telling Americans to leave an American imageboard
>>53676484
>your childs never will go in colledge by free
Many Americans go to college for free. Nobody in America cares about the Russian university that you mentioned.

..Actually, nobody in the world seems to care...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_Ranking_of_World_Universities
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>>53674588
If you are a cute grill I'll send you money. Maybe I'll even buy you, would 10k euro be enough?
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>>53676510
>thinking HK is the same as mainlander trash
I've met tons of chinese from HK in college and they're great, only the cream of the crop comes here, the rest are dogs
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>>53676640
Pls, in you """""universities""""" seriously study a shit from herring whores.

Poland is a lot better than USA.

Also, USA had chances to be great, but you had choiced English, not French..
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Russia has been falling since it's inception as a country by Ivan the Terrible. They will be fine.
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>>53676640
if you're telling that serious, you gotta be a retard
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>>53676594
Dont include us.
We would rather become japan's colony rather than to be qith russia against usa
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>>53676625

Okay Ivan, but only if you promise not to eat canned herring in the corner all day.
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>>53676670
Russia has colledges too, but they aren't popular, because it's not degree of higher education
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>>53676625
>plug your ears and say lalalala when you're losing
commie tears general
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>>53676749

What is, in Russia?
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anglos should go to England.
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>>53676670
It's japanese imageboard.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_Ranking_of_World_Universities
Are you Stanford or Harvard graduate? Average americans don't come near these places, it's so fucking stupid when community college champs brag about it.
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>>53676785
Colleges are analogues of american technician degree
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>>53676691
cant hear you over the international greatness of our """universities"""
>>53676670
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>>53676775
They're not commies anymore

Putinism is a form fascism
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>>53676730
I'm eating black caviar right now, want some?
>>53676775
>plug your ears and say lalalala when you're losing
americunt tears general
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>>53676691
France being overrated. We were, and still are not the country we want the world to believe we are (liberty egalité, fraternité...)
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>>53676812

No, 2chan is a Japanese image board.
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>>53676824
My university had opened before Russian Empire were fail
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>>53676394

Yes, because China is still developing. And by the way, according to many reports China is not growing at five to six, more like 0 to three. Not to mention they have had to freeze their stock market and not let anyone sell anything.

Go home Chinaboo.
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>>53676723
No problem, just give South Siberia back and your can become chinese lapdog for all I care.
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>>53676872
2chan is Russian imageboard, you don't know shit, mate.
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>>53676858

Doubtful, with how fucked the ruble is.
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>>53676812
>University of California, Berkeley
public school relatively easy to get into if youre smart and get good grades. Very cheap if you're a resident of california
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RIP in PEACE BRICS
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Why would someone consider Russia a good country? It's an honest question.
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>>53676211
>>53676625
BATHIK
A
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H
I
K
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>>53676824
murripoors don't have this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH0OB85o5-I
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>>53676816

Like technical/vocational school?
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>>53676916
are you upset because you have no caviar? it tastes wonderful
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>>53676858
if I wanted my own cum back id wipe it off your mothers chin
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>>53674538
>http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/business/article/russian-ministry-predicts-more-recession-lower-incomes-and-less-employment/555849.htm
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>>53676970
>eating rotten fish eggs
literally dog tier
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Murripoors don't have this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjcFeGoKd6w
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>>53676955
znacheniye znaesh?
>>53676973
> an american which can't even speak his own mother tongue tries to argue
damn you're cute :3
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wow Americans are so butthurt, Still can;t forgive the first man in space.
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>>53676910
Come and take it
Russian keyboard warrior
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>>53676912

>created by Hiroyuki nishimura in 1999, 2channel (aka 2ch) is a Japanese textboard, so we were both wrong in an aspect.
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>>53677005
Just add "l" at the end after htm, you genius
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>>53676912
2chan is Japanese, 2Ч is Russian
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>>53677031
gib old trains back
>>53677021
they aren't rotten
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>>53676966
Yes, after that you will be allowed to work as electrician and welder etc.
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>>53677039

Have you realized how shitty and English you are and now you're reverting back to Russian?

Keep tonguing your cousin's asshole.
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>>53677054
You will give it up yourself when your khan dies.
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>USA
>universitites
ahaha, Americans are so dumb, their education is meme-tier. They can'y differ Slovenia from Slovakia.
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Murripoors don't have this
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>>53677053

The only butthurt I see in this thread are most Russians screaming Whataboutisms/Russia stronk foolish West, while the few sane Russians agree with the article and know Putin is full of shit.

I hope those latter Russians can escape and go to someplace not nearly so terrible.
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>>53677064
http://2ch.hk
go check yourself silly
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why are all these guys so unintelligent its /b/ level
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>>53677104

That makes sense. Trade/vocational schools don't have as strong a presence in America. I wish they did.
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>>53677039
*značenije znaješ

Piši normaljno, ne bud’ mankurtom. Pust’ oni učat naš jazyk.
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>>53676594
After out victory we are going to colonize the Nibiru planet comrade. Let's drink yet another couple of vodka
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English has 0 genders
Russian has 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqdLj8TzM-w
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>>53677083
takes me to front page
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>>53677154
nor this
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How do I get a cool Russkie pen pal?
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>>53677161
the only reazon you aren't shit is becaue of resources you have in your land and you isolated geographical location. Russians are smarter than you, in same conditions they'd be more devloped than you.
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>>53677162

It was created as a Japanese website, but okay nigger (because that's effectively what Russians are), why don't you hang out there?
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>>53677267
russians confirmed for trannies
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>>53677273
Just go here:

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/business/article/russian-ministry-predicts-more-recession-lower-incomes-and-less-employment/555849.html

It works for me
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Will Putin reform the economy?
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>>53677267
> 4
wot
>>53677147
you seem to have mental problems, I haven't written anything about being english
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daily reminder, you're not white if you don't understand what they're singing about (it's not russian)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNqvzyBh2XY
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>>53677340
then how come you have resources and are still shit?
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>>53677347
>>53677346
Americans confirmed for dumb niggers.
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>>53676611
Riots are not protests.
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>>53677154

Russians don't have this
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>>53677384
female
male
neutral
general
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>>53677353
keeps taking me to front page
I don't want to fuck around with noscript, can you cap that article or something?
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>>53677346
you are the nigger here, check your skin
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>tfw no hardcore russian prisoner to write about my first world problems to
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>>53677428
Stanley Kubric made a great job
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>>53677384

How shitty your English is*; my bad. But yeah, fuck you m8.
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>>53677389
We don't have rsources, we're poor starving country, we don't grow anything cuz our land is empty and frozen.
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>>53677428
Hollywood? Damn shame we don't.
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>>53677471
it's correct to write his name as Sergej Vasiljev
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>>53677432
> general
no such thing
>>53677428
we do, but the real one
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USA USA USA

(be careful:this post triggers Americans)
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>>53677475

Keep denying it, your country truly hasn't gone anywhere.
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>>53677477
Nobody studies english, it's not 1985 dude
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>>53676634
Source on that statement.

>>53676688
I could say the same about any foreign ethnic group in college in the US.
Calling Chinese "dogs" is racist as hell.

>>53676891
Yeah because the IMF, World bank, and TE are not more trustworthy than random shills who claim a US collapse as often as they claim China's.
The IMF and World Bank predict 6.8% in 2015 and 6.5% in 2016. TE thinks it's 5-6% based upon consumption and service sector growth.
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>>53677340

You have an insane amount of resources relative to your population. While you don't have the same level of geographical isolation, you haven't been faced with any real threat of foreign external invasion since you developed the nuclear bomb. NATO doesn't do shit like Crimea and let its members annex Russian territory like Russian has done with Ukraine. In fact, before Ukraine, Russian-NATO relations were pretty good, relatively speaking.

But Russia is still shit.
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>>53677428
>mfw the richest country in the world lost space race to the failed commie state
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>>53677534

What's the real one; if you don't mind me asking?
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>>53677583
maybe this is the reason why GREAT MURRICA uses a russian cosmodrome
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>>53677598
https://twitter.com/rt_com/status/523151303057633281
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>>53677455
Nope, I'm on my phone
But here's the whole article:
>Russian Ministry Predicts More Recession, Lower Incomes and Less Employment
New falls in the oil price mean that Russia's economy will likely shrink again in 2016, as incomes continue to fall and unemployment rises, according to a draft outlook prepared by the Economic Development Ministry.
Officials had hoped for an end to recession this year, but a near 20 percent decrease in the price of oil in early January has forced a reassessment.
The new outlook, obtained by the Vedomosti business newspaper, assumed an average oil price of $40 per barrel over 2016, down from the $50 per barrel built into the current budget plan, but higher than the current price of around $30.
The lower price will ricochet through the economy, the report said, according to Vedomosti. Instead of growing by 0.7 percent, the economy will contract by 0.8 percent, while industrial output will fall slightly and investment will decline by 5 percent from last year, it said.
A weaker ruble and higher-than-expected inflation will continue to make Russians poorer. Real incomes will fall by 4 percent, instead of the 0.7 percent previously predicted, and unemployment will rise by half a percentage point to 6.3 percent, the report said.
Russia is already mired in its longest recession since President Vladimir Putin became president in 1999. The economy contracted by an estimated 3.7 percent last year, and officials have warned of government spending cuts this year. However, a wave of patriotism unleashed by military actions in Ukraine and Syria has kept the president's approval ratings at record highs.
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>>53677477
> tells me something I can't even understand because his grammar skills are so bad
> I tell him that
> he tells me that mine are even worse
> still makes typos and mistakes all over the post he writes
are you proud of being american, too?
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>>53674538
>How are you Russian anons handling this?
hopefully by killing themselves
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>>53677490
>3rd largest country by arable land
>half the population of the US
>we don't have resources
>we poor starving country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arable_land
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>>53677694
Haвepнoe пoтoмy чтo я нe нaпиcaл и пoлoвины из тeх пocтoв, a ты пpocтo дoлбoёб c двaчeй, нe yмeющий в oбыкнoвeннoe мышлeниe.
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>>53677694
Because you're butthurt loser who takes imageboards seriously.
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>>53677592
>nobody studies english
>meanwhile kazakhstan teaching STEM in english
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>>53677744
>бeдныe бoльшe вceгo дyмaют o дeньгaх
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>>53677562

At least we can afford to feed our people, soon, just like the 1990s and throughout Russian history, you won't be able to. Pic related, your babushka will be standing in this line for hours just like the good old days.
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>>53677641
its just cheaper to use russian whores who work for pennies
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>>53677616
NATO is above shit like annexing regions, it destroys the whole countries.
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>>53677694
Hy этo видимo пoтoмy, чтo ты пидopaхa c двaчeй.
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>>53677694
I think theyre trolling, either that or theyre really dumb/in denial
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>>53677616
No we don't. You have more food and no enemies around you, you never had wars on your land. We have them every 2 years.
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>>53677782
>Borats are a good example
They only need their potassium dealers to speak english.
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>>53677827
И пpичём здecь этo, дayнёнoк?
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>>53676639
It's Polish, in Cerbian it would be "Kosovo je Srbija", or somth. like that, anon.
BTW - Kosovo je Srbija!
>>53676321
>Бoльшинcтвo пpoгнoзoв Гpeфa cбывaлиcь. B 2010 гoдy oн гoвopил, чтo мы тaк и нe выбpaлиcь из кpизиca, a зaдoлгo дo ввeдeния caнкций пpeдpeкaл пpoблeмы в экoнoмикe. Cлoвa Гpeфa нaхoдят пoдтвepждeниe. Цeны нa нeфть yпaли нижe $30, и нe зa гopaми пopoг в $20. Pyбль дeшeвeeт. Бaнкoвcкaя cиcтeмa Poccии нaхoдитcя в шaгe oт кoллaпca. Инвecтиции пaдaют. Пpoгpaммa импopтoзaмeщeния нe paбoтaeт. Pacтeт бeзpaбoтицa.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>53677931
>we have wars every 2 years
yea it doesnt count if youre starting them
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>>53677616
Rus-US relations became worse after Chechnya and Georgia and Kosovo.
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>>53677432
>general
What? Give me some examples.
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>>53677989
so what is rouble doing in someone's ass?
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>>53677965
>Cerbian
Serbian, sry, kek
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>>53677972
If California wanted independence you'd also start them.
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>>53675593
I love it when I can say THE Ukraine desu

Don't know why

Both "Ukraine" and "The Ukraine" are correct btw
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>>53677831
you're disgusting
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>>53677616
>you haven't been faced with any real threat of foreign external invasion since you developed the nuclear bomb.
NATO has already positioned themselves in Russian breakaway regions like the baltics, it's just a matter of time when the core gets attacked.
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>>53678064
>thinking the cucks in this state could fight a war
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>>53677965
get real, most of that bullshit isn't even true
or maybe you're reading that from some polish daily propaganda newspaper
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poor merican bois - they're still brainwashed by McCarthy and live in the Cold war mindset. No more commies to justify their existence. Btw the whole American self-esteem was built toward Commie threat.
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>>53677831
It's good that you laugh at that generation, I agree with you. I think it's fun that people who listened to Voice of America religiously and gave up their country for burgers and jeans got so fucked up in 90th.
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>>53678144
>polish daily propaganda newspaper
>mk.ru
http://www.mk.ru/economics/2016/01/15/slova-grefa-o-rossiidaunshiftere-vyzvali-otorop-na-gaydarovskom-forume.html
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>>53678276
poland confirmed for part of russia
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>putinboos still don't realize Russian posters are trolling everyone
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>>53678066
Found this interesting article:
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-18233844

Apparently, only the form without a definite article is the correct one

I still like how it sounds though
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>>53676940
this picture gets me every time
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>all the butthurt in this thread

Russians always seem to have the need to root for the home team, even if they know in the back of their mind that they're wrong. When I lived there it was always funny to me, the way people felt they had to defend bad decisions simply because they were made by people who spoke the same language as them. Meanwhile I've got no problem bashing Bush, Obama, and anyone else in my country for their fuck ups.

It's alright you guys, Russia doesn't have to be an infallible paradise 100% of the time. The US sure as fuck isn't, no place is.

Just admit that your president's foreign policy has backed you into a corner at the same time as world oil prices have crashed, and that Russia is too dependent on oil. It's not some international or NATO conspiracy to destroy Russia that Putin fucked up (and continues to fuck up) Ukraine.
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>>53678835
fuck off, burger, you're my enemy and your country is guilty my country is in poverty and shit.
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>>53679340
But I actually like Russia. It's just that I think your government, like mine, can fuck right off into a hole and die.
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>>53674538
>How are you Russian anons handling this?
Go to Europe, lel. Rubles are shitty sheets, economy with oil $30 price goes down and no future in Putin's Russia.
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>downloading content illegaly
>freedom
So how is that Russian economy doing? :^)
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>>53679340
>America is at fault for Russian politics being inept
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>>53674538
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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>>53675144
Ukraine has much stronger ties with Russia because it was excluded from common European market. Slovakia in contrast is well integrated into it.

Russia could fuck eastern Europe (and not only eastern) over hard by denying us gas, but that would still hurt Russia much more so it's not happening any sooner than strategic nuking of Poland.

You should wake up from delusions of soviet grandeur. Putin rode the wave of rising oil prices and his failure to make your economy robust to it now has your country nosediving along with it.

If your state can be fascist enough to compensate for cancer-ridden private sector , you can rebound in time, but it will get worse before it gets better.

On unrelated note, how would you like living in North Korea?
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>>53680636
Excellent

Thank you
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>>53674730
>>53675144
Russia is completely irrelevant as a market, for example our export to Czechia is bigger than to Russia.
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>>53674730
>muh tourists are relevant
shut the fuck up lol
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Isnt it hurting Canada too? I like them
>>
Again?
Ok.
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>>53681770
we actually export fuckloads to russia
if they're poor we get poorer as well
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>>53681934
We export goods for 1 billion USD

That's nothing
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>>53681978
That is half your country's gdp already.
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>>53682066
Well meme'd

Says the country with even steeper recession than Russia under sanctions and low oil prices
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>>53674894
Give me the usD please
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>>53682359
only frogs and baguettes for you
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>>53674899
I went to Slovenia last summer, nice country but 100% slavic/10. You're not western european sorry, stop spitting on your father
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>>53681978
Where the fuck did you pulled that number from?
We exported 50,000 Kia cars to russia in 2014.
That's at least billion in itself.
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>>53675269
>We belong with Germany
you enjoy arab gangrape parties too?
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>>53682463
>Russia
>father of slavs
ha, frog education
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>>53682417
Exxxcellent !
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>>53682540
>USA
>Education
top gun
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>>53682172
It's less than 2% of our export btw

It would be the apocalypse if we lost that
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>ruskie damage control
It's okay, you can admit you hate your country too just as we hate it.

We know. It sucks being born in a shitty dead end country where there's no hope or future.
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>>53682699
>Name a country that has a bright future.
Protip: you can't.
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>>53674538
I don't care much. Since the crisis of 2008 I sustain purely on percent from family's savings held overboard. Since I technically pay checks in sfr, downfall of local economy simply mean cheaper cost of living for me. Not like it really matters, I never was a big spender t.b.h.f.a.m.
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>>53681631

They do have a nice market, the problem is that their economy was focused on export raw materials and they craved dollars. Thy build the entire thing upon the dollar. When this economic model went down the shitter, so did the ruble, and so their purchase capability.

But they've learned form it though, and are dumping on the dollar instead, which is becoming an inflated meme currency that wil eventually burst as more and more countries turn their back on it, althogh short term their economy is taking a heavy toll for it. But in the long run, the dollar is fucked and so will be the US economy.
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>>53683312
Your post doesn't make sense

Do you think that Russia is behind the rise of $?

Holy shit, nobody can be this clueless
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>>53680125
>>53680006
>>53679933
>butthurt bellt appears on the 300s post
you're late today
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>>53683312
>in the long run the dollar is fucked
>he actually believes this even though it's the world's most stable and most used reserve currency
>he actually thinks Russia using the dollar as a reserve was something special and not just what most countries do

Anti-Americanism is meme-tier at this point.
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>>53683465

when did I say that say Russia had the capability of tanking the dollar, you faggot?
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>>53683607
He didn't say Russia could tank the dollar, he said it couldn't be behind the increasing value of the dollar over the time period you suggested (2000 - 2014 I'd assume).
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ITT people don't understand market adaptation and US inflationary tax trough forced use of the dollar. Financial market != real market, they are decoupled for a reason--to avoid 1920's like depression.

Counter is not hard, switch to currency swaps and internal markets.

Japs have 117.00 Yen to 1 USD, plus 230%+ to GDP nobody seems to give a shit.

It's almost like you retards forget the Chinese and other countries artificially deflate their currency to produce and export.

Every once in a while i hear Russia needs more *country* then *country* needs it. This doesn't reflect at all how global markets work.

We're in a Global Market Recession, it's not just Russia. EU, Canada, Turkey, etc are suffering from its effects.

If the morons stop trading in dollars and switch to their own currencies their market would stabilize.

It's the Roaring 1920's all over again.
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>>53682865
>Name a country that has a bright future.
>Protip: you can't.

I can :^)
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>>53682699
butthurt
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>>53674538
look, you guys need to stock up on canned food,as much as you can get, then flour and other non perishable items,because I smell a Lenin famine coming
also condoms,vodka and some sort of gun
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>>53683825
dollar is fine, you cant expect world economy to grow 10% all time, economic steady healthy growth is tied to trust and good politics, blame usa for fucking middle east, EU, their PIIGS and Russia
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>>53676684
you can buy an entire orphanage for that
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>>53682865
Estonia
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>>53683825
Dollar measures American respect and trust. If you get them - you'll get dollars and ur currency will raise like Poland, Estonia. If you dont' - you'll be isolated and your currency and trade market goes to hell. It's personal.
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>>53684067
Yeah, that's exactly what said.
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So, what will happen with sanctions? Will it be like Iran where the sanctions last for decades? Because I don't see Putin ever backing down
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>>53684067
>dollar is fine
Dollar is not fine. Part time jobs have gone up, people on food stamps(modern day virtual soup kitchens) are up. You can't just print 4 trillion dollars and get into 19 trillion dollars in debt and be 'ok'. Shit will start behaving like a game of Jenga.
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>>53684455
>tfw not a single candidate in the 2016 presidential race mentions the debt

JUST
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>>53684396
At this point it all depends on European politics. If enough Putin-friendly politicians win power in the EU, the sanctions will end. The EU sanctions on Russia are the only ones that matter, remember that.

>>53684455
You know the USA's population has been increasing, right? You're meant to post these graphs as a % of population. Absolute numbers are fucking useless
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>>53684396
Neither I see Obama backing down.
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>>53676190
there are hundreds of blogs criticizing Putin and no one gets jailed 2bh lad
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>>53684659
US sanctions on Russia are pretty irrelevant because there's hardly enough trade between those countries. It's the EU sanctions that matter to you

>inb4 le USA controls le EU meme
People who believe this should consider suicide
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>>53683879
I always laugh really hard every time i see this picture

can you just imagine him smirking and practising this over and over again in the mirror built into the 4-star hotel bedroom wardrobe. the book says 'power pose'. a quick wank over that photo of the Saudis and a glance at the Torygraph and it's beddy-byes for George
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>>53683544
Why are you so butthurt about our posts?
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>>53684747
the only thing that really matters is oil prices
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>>53684455
>food stamps
Communism? Do you also have stamps for other products like washing machines, stoves, clothing, cars?
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>>53684614
EU sanctions on Russia have to be reviewed and renewed every few months. Russian support for various European far-right parties makes perfect sense in light of this

Makes their accusations of almost all the opponents of Russian regime as fascists ironic. It's mainly for domestic propaganda purposes
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>>53684747
nobody controls anyone. You're the same country (alliance, evil impire) with US. We call you West.
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>>53674538
isn't this just whatever the Russian government wants the plebs to think and react to? Isn't it just saying Russia is going to be slightly more Russian in the near future?
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>>53685199
That's nice you invented Internet so we can spread communism and brainwash your youth sitting at home.
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>>53684980
No. Oil prices are the most important thing, but in order to diversify its economy AWAY from reliance on oil, Russia needs foreign investment and the most valuable investment will come from the advanced economies of Europe.

>>53685084
Yes. Speculation:

My own opinion is that, in addition to trying to save Assad (i.e. Russian influence in the region), Putin is making a serious military effort in Syria to try and destabilise the region more, encouraging migration to destabilise the EU. If the major EU powers start quarrelling, Russia benefits.

I can't be entirely sure though, because I have a very low opinion of Putin, I don't think he's very clever at all. I think he mis-calculated the consequences of the Ukraine adventure and he was stupid to assume oil prices would stay high
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>>53685312
>spread communism
puhlease
gommie followers are just basement dwellers
not the best kind of hosts for your parasite
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>>53685319
>Putin is making a serious military effort in Syria to try and destabilise the region more

Putin said don't fuck with middle east and stop toppling governments there, because wars will drive those people into Europe, all the way back in 2006.

He got laughed out of the door.
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>>53684008
>sweden
>butthurt
about what :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>53676224
he he he
No, slovak, you see, you can never escape it.
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>>53686029
It's not in Putin's interest to have stable Middle East

Oil prices are already low enough and Russians are going to desperately cling to their diminished sphere of influence there by whatever means necessary
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>>53686475
What can't we escape?
We already did

Just keep selling us your gas and we don't give a fuck about you
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>>53675144
we aren't
we don't even use your gas that much
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>>53686029
Kek. Well, there are some signs that EU unity is beginning to break, in large part because of anger over the refugee situation. One of the most worrying developments is this new German-Polish split. And the Italians are (rightfully) pissed at Germany for blocking that Southstream pipeline and pressing ahead with the Northstream one (which goes to Germany)

There's a lot happening right now and things are difficult to predict. Russia will probably benefit from this, but at the same time oil is going far lower than they thought

I haven't yet decided if this emerging isolation of Germany is good for the UK... it might be...
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>>53676201
>MoscowTimes is the NYT of Russia
<The Moscow Times is an English-language weekly newspaper published in Moscow, with a circulation of 35,000 copies. It's distributed for free at places frequented by English-speaking expatriates such as hotels, cafés, embassies, and airlines, and also available by subscription, but not available at newsstands. The newspaper is very popular among foreign citizens residing in Moscow and English-speaking Russians.

It really ain't mate.
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We are doomed. DOOOOMMMEEEDXDDDD
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>>53686619
It is
The Perfidious Albion will find a way to fuck everyone over as always.
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>>53686930
Eh, I see the potential, but the FCO has been sloppy the past few decades, they need to step it up
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>>53676670
>American imageboard
desu senpai test
>>
Why can't all countries and cultures accept Liberal Democracy as the least bad option of governace and we could all engage in mutually benefitial free trade and exchange of ideas?

Why do we have to deal with this bullshit?
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>>53687154
>Liberal Democracy
*Social Democracy

ftfy.
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>>53688179
Not the same thing.

Those two concern themselves with different aspects of resource allocation.

Social democracy is class based redistribution, liberalism refers to equality between groups.
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>>53688509
>liberalism refers to equality between groups.
Really?
I always saw the term liberalism as in deregulated free market.
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>>53674538
dude, i already cried two times today about this and once big yestarday, and now i went on 4ch and here you is pouring salt on my wound
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>>53674538
just for an example: my apartment and village house in 2012 was cost around 500 000 dollars together, its big mansion on the spain cost for an example. now it cost same price in rouble, but rouble drop, 3x times (and dropping still last) so now its around 150 000 dollars. please stop me from crying. oh no its too late, i m already crying
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