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So what is this country about?

How come people speak both Afrikaans and English? I know a South Africaner with a British sounding name but also South Africaners with dutch sounding names.

Is it really that dangerous a place? Is it really that racist a place? Who are the trouble makers?

Is it possible for their to be poor white people who fuck shit up, and rich black people who are doing OK?

Why did they make Nandos?

I'm just curious.
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bump pls i need educating
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>>53665309
2 languages because 2 different colonizers

Some parts are very dangerous, nearly warzone levels, others are fine

Blacks youths are the trouble makers

Some poor whites are pretty useless retards, but there are very few of them, there are alot of rich blacks, mostly from government jobs and corruptions, but some from legitimate business

Nandos is pretty good, blacks like chicken, KFC is much more popular.
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>>53665789
Interesting.

So tell me what your average day is like in South Africa
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>>53665932
I guess the same as any other country, I dont really do anything unique
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>Get shot
>Get broken into
>Move out
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The Afrikaners are descendants of the Dutch colonisers, the English ones are descendants of English colonisers

More dangerous than most of the first world, bar some American cities

There's plenty of poor white people, usually they're Afrikaners, they're essentially white trash like chavs or bogans, they're called zefs there
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>>53665932
This is what a normal neigbourhood looks like in my area, i study at the university so my day is pretty boring and straightforward. Gated communities and all that stuff exist but its more a meme, most people just live in normal neighbourhoods
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>>53666568
If I want to go to Suid-Afrika what do I do and where do I go to not get raped and or murdered?
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>>53666568
Daaamn that looks beautiful
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>>53666749
Looks like parts of Queensland here 2bh. Reminds me of my old home on the Gold Coast.
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>>53666568
Really? It isn't that common to live in a gated community?

My gf's is english south african but both her parents speak Afrikaans. How common is this?

If you're white and want to go out, how do you go about this? How present is the fear of being attacked?

I'm seizing the opportunity to do some research on SA.
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>>53666705
Stay south of the purple line, nothing good happens north of that line, in fact go to the garden route and forget about the rest of the country
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>>53666811
No, maybe in the north where there are lots of blacks and crime, but the south where I live is pretty normal.

The afrikaans parents english thing is kind of weird, what language does she speak at home. I know some afrikaans kids go to english schools and universities for some reason.

I go out my front door and go where I want, where i live is safe, if i go to a black area I usually take a handgun with me, but i've never been a victim of crime. The northern parts and cities has the worst crime, that is where the bad statistics come from
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>>53667053
An old neighbour of mine used to live in Pretoria and he told me that his old house had the bedrooms seperated from the rest of the house by large metal gates and that this was normal there.
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>>53667053
So in medium sized towns (20,000 to 50,000) you'd say that the whites and the blacks live in peace? I'm assuming extraordinary amounts of segregation though.

>if i go to a black area I usually take a handgun
that's rough. assuming you went to a private school, how likely are you to have friends of a different race? I'm wondering if it's similar to what I've seen in the rest of the world.
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>>53667120
Normal in the north, there people have electrical fencing, bars, burglar alarms, pointy fences, cameras and all that stuff, and they still get killed and robbed. My yard has a fence i can climb over and no alarms or anything like that, i've never had any problems in the 17 years living here.

This is the area where i live
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I live in the north of south africa. am white and never been a victim of violent crime. cept that one time i got attacked by a drunk spectator whilst playing rugby.
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>>53667266
oh moving to mossel baai this year, from the north west.
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>>53667145
Yes its peaceful, not like a tense hateful atmosphere or anything, I finished public high school in 2010, and we had 1 black boys in our final year class of 250 students. We had a few coloured, but where probably 90% white school, you can make friends with others if you want but people tend to segregate themselves naturally, if you go the beach you will see whites swimming in one area of the beach and blacks in another.
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>>53667145
i currently live in a small town. 99% white. the black people live outside of town in their own areas. segregation is because of wealth not skin colour.
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>>53667347
Wanneer gaan jy trek, my tannie trek ook uit die transvaal uit, sy is ook gatvol. Hier trek elke dag mense van bo af.
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>>53667579
sodra ek al die eiendomme verkoop het. mosselbaai is verder van afrika af as harties... dis hoekom ek trek
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>>53667635
Ja dis darem nog beskaaf, ek dink die deel van die kaap is die laaste plek wat 'n witmens nog gemaklik kan leef. Kaapstad en omliggende gebiede self is kak.
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>>53667266
>vleesbaai
>hazenjacht
>armoed
>ongelegen
>avontuur

topkoek wat een kutnamen
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>>53668482
My familie se ou plaaswerkers woon in 'n kak dorpie met die naam van
>suurbraak

>>53667266
For non saffers, guys cape and especially south coast is basically another country, you will be laughed at if you have the whole fortress thing going on, but in the north, in JHB and Pretoria, Potch and so aan, its a matter of survival.
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>>53667756
Kaapstad en omliggende gebiede self is kak.
>kan bevestig

die goeie buurte is te na aan die kak areas, ek was letterlik 100m buite my buurt, bleddy 50m van n grote private hospitaal en ek was aangerand
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>>53667266
>>53668746
How cab people afford all those security systems?
Also why would the north be more violent, I know there are more blacks there but what drives them to rob and kill?
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>>53668482
I could throw a stone across all those towns you named, most of them are just farms with a few buildings. Vleesbaai is actually a pretty nice place, there is only one store its also the petrol station
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>>53665309
mfw Afrikaans is literally retard-Dutch
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>>53668828
Ja ek haat dit om in die kaapstad area te wees, dit is al net so kak soos die noorde, ek verkies dit maar om agter die boerewors gordyn te woon, klein dorpies is lekkerder.

>>53668933
Its your money or your life, high security is a good selling point for houses in the north. Some say poverty causes all the crime, but I think we have a criminal culture in the country. It is easier to steal and murder than to do an honest days job.

The greener the map gets the worse it gets
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>>53668482
>topkoek

koek
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>>53669102
BOKMAL

SO MAL SOOS N BOK
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>>53669240
mål = language m8 (it can mean goal too)
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>>53666568
is it mostly whites living in that neighborhood or is there blacks as well
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whats limpopo and mpumalanga like

>>53665789
nandos is the shit
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>>53669328
kek, norwegian confirmed
retard-afrikaans
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How common are interracial mariage in South Africa ? Also do you think racism is still present in each communities ?

Also the step-sister of my mother is South African, she married to an Afrikaner. I found that Johannesburg (where they lived) is a really bad place to live. Even if there house is really nice you don't feel safe.
We went to Cape Town and it's a really nice city desu. The countryside around the city is also very beautiful
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I honestly hope the Dutch-hating miner doesn't show up this time

>>53669102
Oppassen Björn, Afrikaans actually sounds better
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>>53669384
Typical african country basically.

Funny enough the biggest shithole is the eastern cape.

Mostly down to mismanagement and corruption, but here being caught for being retarded or corrupt as a gypsy means you get promoted.
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>>53669358
mostly whites. but our black middle class is growing very fast.
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did i get this right?
most of the whites live in the north of the country, north of yohannesburg and around praetoria, but the blacks living there are fucking savage
while in the south, there aren't as many whites, but the non whites are mostly coloureds and not as violent
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>>53669418
diaspora ga terug
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>>53669208
Which part of the country is the one with huge farms in the middle of nowhere. I remember reading about some guy in SA who killed some blacks and was hiding at his farm for 9 months or something.
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>>53669408
in my area interracial marriage is very rare. have seen maybe 2 couples in the past 10 years.
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>>53669479
Are the black middle class cool bro tier?
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>>53669494
sorta yes,

but in cape town you get cape coloureds, and on the Cape Flats (basically massive coloured areas) they are as violent as in the north, but more contained.
Fok the premier of the south west province has asked for the army to be used to subjugate the really bad areas.

Its like detroit but they are better organized and and better fighters. The coloureds that arent peaceful (some are very devout good people) are a lot like mexican cartels.

Also the north is largely foreigner infested as well, parts of JHB is basically little Nairobi and they are even worse.

Here in cape town they coalesce around the nightlife, on Long Street (full of clubs) I timed it once, i got out of my car with phone on stop watch

fokken 5 (VYF) sekonde voor een van daardie nigeriers vir my coke probeer verkoop het
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>>53669574
they are on the whole less radical. They want to keep their house and way of life. Also they are increasingly disillusioned with the ruling black party and voting for the more centrist opposition party. They care about their standard of living and not about african liberation and that shyte.
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If you could reinstate apartheid would you?
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>>53669803
This
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>>53669803
nah who would then beat you fuckers in rugby and cricket?
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>>53669778
That's pretty promising tbqh
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>fokken 5 (VYF) sekonde voor een van daardie nigeriers vir my coke probeer verkoop het

thats not any different here at the main clubbing areas tobehonest
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>>53669358
That is a white neighbourhood, I doubt one black even lives close by.

>>53669384
Limpopo is a shithole, nothing works right, the government there doesn't give a shit.

>>53669408
Interracial mariage and dating is very rare and still very taboo. All races like their own kind more than any other, i guess that is just normal.

Most whites live in the southern part, and there is also a large white population in pretoria and bloemfontein. The coloureds are better than the blacks simply because the can speak afrikaans and are an easier race to get along with, they are still pretty shit sometimes.

>>53669517
Probably the northern cape, its bigger than germany and has a population of 1 million. I used to live there, nothing much goes on there. There were maybe about 2000 people living in that town at the time. Some towns are also hundreds of km's from the closest nearby towns, pic related is what it looks like there
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>>53669803
>>53669835
no. europe and america would just fuck us over again
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>>53669803
No, same bleeding heart shit would happen, separate states needed.

>>53669778
Although for a lot of them, especially working class, not very poor, not middle class, but those poorish kids that go to uni, they are full bolshevik, afromarxism is
>babby's first ideology
for a lot of them, and they smash shit and burn tyres whenever they feel like it.
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What's the opinion on Die Antwoord in SA?
From what I hear it's a mixed opinion, some saying that they like them and others calling them disgusting.

Also I swear Waddy appeared in a Nandos advert.
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>>53670029
they are a funny shock gimmick band. i liked their stuff before they went to the usa. made me laugh.
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>>53670139
How big were their previous projects in SA, i.e. MaxNormal.TV?
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>>53670238
so so but localized mainly in capetown.
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>>53670139
same

>>53670029
They are a meme, like Jack Parrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRzFqW4Xh2k


watch till 40 sec at least, see the

HOED
O
E
D
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>>53670283
nou miss ek ons dorp se road house. hulle het so 2 jaar terug toe gemaak.
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would it be a right time for SA to balkanize?
if yes, then which part of the country would be better off seceding?
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how accurate is this?
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>>53669505
>Ga terug naar het land van Nederlandse diaspora
Plus ik ben 100% Nederlands :^)
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>>53670516
Not true of south or northern cape,
but true of JHB and Pretoria (up north), if /very/ slightly exaggerated. Its truly a shit place to live, but the pay is higher there.
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>>53670512
south part for whites. rest for africa. also we will build the biggest fucking wall in the history of mankind. trump will immigrate here just to be able to look at our wall everyday.
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>>53670650
with nice electric fencing on top, and a ratio of mines with two for every african on other side of wall

we could use a some sort of mine catapult or something
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>>53670283
I'm going to see Jack in a few months, is he really a meme? I mean I can hear that his lyrics aren't too serious but is he at all respected in SA?
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>>53666930
I thought Cape Town was still nice? My parents lived in Johannesburg in the 70s and a lot of their saffer friends retired in Cape Town.
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>>53670516
god damn
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>>53670845
Not in a bad way, he's fun to go see
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>>53670516
abaondoned buildings get squatters that refuse to move and fuck up the place. takes about 2 years in court to get them out. then we send these guys...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOaf00138Qs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QBqB3M5p7g
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>>53665789
>ITZ ALL DEH BLICKS WHO DO DEH CRIME.
>US WHITES DIN DU NUFFIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!
Enough of this dumb naive meme. Almost all the biggest South African criminal gangs are run by Whites who use dumb poor nig nogs to do their bidding.
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>>53670705
5/10
the northern cape is almost unpopulated, all those dark orange parts are that way because of only like 100k coloureds living there. you'd be throwing away free clay.
i'd just draw a line between the dark orange and the gray part. so everything east of the line between the dark orange and the grey line into the trash goes.
you'd be left with a 50% coloured, 25% white and 25% black national socialist republic of southwestern africa
you can't do much better than that. the whites from bloemfonetin and praetoria would just have to move, otherwise RIP
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>>53670971
we dont have much organized crime here. and when we do its nigerians east euros or Italians.
glen aggliotti an italian was the biggest crime lord here for decades.
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>>53671115
my bad
northern cape should be out
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>>53670961
So these guys clean the places up or what?
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>>53671358
yes. they are a private company that does it. you have to get a court order to evict all the people and then you pay these guys to come in and throw every one out.
they are mostly mozambiquans and zimbabweans and dont give a fuck who they evict. our blacks hate them like the plague.
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>>53670512

There is actually a small political party that wants to have an independent cape again, but they are not very well known. I support the idea of splitting up into two countries, it really is the best solution, blacks are not native to the cape, so they have no real claim on it. That rainbow nation/ubuntu shit will never work, blacks and whites will never live in peace in south africa, there is too much difference.

They can give an even bigger part to the blacks, we need only a small bit to be successful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Party
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>>53670971
t. butthurt african immigrant, you know nothing, please leave
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>>53671463
Was the cape uninhabited when the Dutch/English settled there?
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>>53672758
it was inhabited by nomadic bushmen.
no black people for a 1000km.
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>>53672758
No, but only Bushmen, no Bantu, they were closest in Eastern Cape, and even they moved there only recently, the previous (to that) hundred or two hundred years.

The bushmen got caught between massive bantu migration from north and the Euro from south.


cucked by history
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>>53670591
t. Werner van den Bergh
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Why do you cry so much?

If it wasn't for the petty apartheid the stupid blacks probably never would have realized the exploitation you were doing and you probably would have survived far longer as a white state.

But you went full retard with the segregation instead, so why do you cry now? I really don't understand it.
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>>53673067
who here is crying? to whom are you directing this question?
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>>53672913
>>53672963
So bushmen aren't considered black? Are there multiple types of black people or are you talking tribal origination?
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>>53673067
like rhodesia? they didnt have the petty apartheid. see where they are now? fucking ignorant scandinavian. but please go on and tell us more about our country.
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>>53671592
>Lemme just accuse him of being black, that'll show him who's right!
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>>53673474
you are italian... you are just as white as the turks and albanians.
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>>53673559
You may not have realized this yet because you still live there but South Africans do emigrate.
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>>53673650
You sentence does not make any sense at all in english.

try arabic and i will use google translate.
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>>53673771
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>>53673650
Why can't you people build reliable engines, or at least supply spare parts for the shitty failure prone engines you build. I have a broken motorcycle in my garage and finding the right parts have been hell.
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>>53675648
>Aprilia
That's no one's fault but your own for buying that shitheap.
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>>53673771
Lekker gememe man, lekker gememe
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>>53676054
Should have gone Jap, must be how alfa romeo owners feel when they are broken down on the side of the road and all the toyotas and hondas drive past.
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