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I'm moving to Japan soon. I want to evangelize the country a little as a way to perform some good works.

I'm learning the language (it's hard), and I studied Buddhism and Shinto in school, and was raised atheist myself.

How do I go about spreading the faith over there?
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watch animes as many as you can.
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>>53650439
lol most anime and manga is garbage. I like some stuff like Millennium Actress and The Wind Rises, stuff that's actually good, but most of it is just high school drama and genre trash for kids. I'm not interested in the form just for the sake of the form, and I doubt it would give me much insight into actual Japanese culture, let alone their religious climate.

I see Japan being so cucked by America, and becoming more and more materialistic and unmoored from traditional morality, and I feel sorry for them. They remind me of my own country. Canada and the rest of the West have turned their backs on God and are dying, and the Church has to look to the East.
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>>53650360
>current year
>missionary

even if you do do work there, in the long run it's all just gonna bring misery to the people there

because if you know, all the peoples that were recently converted in the past century are doing really shit nowadys
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>>53652608
>current year
>missionary
Does the eternal Word of God have an expiration date?

>even if you do do work there, in the long run it's all just gonna bring misery to the people there

If you look at history, Christianity has truly been the light of the world, and the salt of the earth. The religion sometimes causes conflict, but it brings blessings, too.

Christianity has already been in Japan for centuries. The country would be as Christian as South Korea today if two little pieces of the Northwest Territories hadn't levelled its two most Christian cities (that's what happens when a bunch of Freemasons and Jews get to pick targets).

>all the peoples that were recently converted in the past century are doing really shit nowadys

That's because they were mostly colonized aboriginals or Africans who never stood much of a chance in the game of history. The only natives I've ever met who have their lives together have been Christian. The rest pretty much just live in squalor and despair, turning to hiphop gangsterism or the occult to find meaning in their lives. These peoples continue to exist because of their faith, not despite of it.

East Asia is a spiritual vacuum right now. Either Jesus is going to fill the void, or Muhammad will. The Japanese went gangbusters with Shinto of all things. Just imagine if Islam got their hands on the Japanese spirit...

The Gospel must be preached to all nations.
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What a waste of life.
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>>53650360
>Shinto-Buddhist Atheist wants to proselytize Christianity

Wat
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>>53653995
What's a better way to spend my time? Sipping awful tea while tipping my bowler to the local "Asian" rapegang and worshiping a dried up old hag who happened to sit on a rock once?

>>53654050
I'm a former atheist (now Christian) who merely studied Shinto and Buddhism academically in school.
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what province?
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>>53650360
Go for it. I knew some Christians who went over to work as Kindergarten teachers and they did some missionary work as adults on the side.

Japanese people do not like lifestyle change though. It would be very difficult for a white person to be a successful missionary there, I really only think they listen to fellow Japanese.
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>>53653995
It's a better pastime than shitposting on 4chan.

Even if you don't think the religion has any merit, he'll be getting life experience and travelling.
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Deus vult!
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>>53654050
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>>53654484
Take this down.
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Only if you're catholic.
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>>53654214
BC

>>53654223
Yeah they seem to be pretty conformist and insular, but if I can convince one person it'd be worth it.
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>>53654504
Make me Jew-boy
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>>53653312

Salting the earth makes it infertile.

Anyway it's not like there's no Christian missions in Japan right now. Just google that shit if you want to bother them instead of starting out on your own with less resources.
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>>53654582
Already did, with your mom.
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>>53654628
Is that why she's missing shekels from her purse?
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There is work for the Priest in a wedding hall.
Even if you can't speak Japanese, it's OK.
A costume is prepared here.
Qualification doesn't enter.
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>>53654621
"Salt of the earth" in the Christian sense is a metaphor drawn from cooking. It means something that brings out the true flavor of the world more strongly, giving everyone a better sense of its essence, and thus helping people to realize the truth.

It's actually pretty much impossible for people to deliberately render a tract of land infertile through salting. It sometimes happens over decades through bad irrigation practices (salinization of farmland brought about the downfall of the Mesopotamian civilization for example), but the intent of salting conquered cities or the property of people convicted of treason was spiritual, not physical.

Salt has always been considered a spiritually potent substance. It's necessary for life (salt starvation is apparently awful), and it used to be very economically valuable (people used to get paid in salt in certain lines of work, and that's where we get the word "salary" from), so it was seized on as a worthy sacrifice to the gods by many cultures. That's why superstitious people still toss a pinch of salt over their shoulders after spilling some. The Christian metaphor above ties into that spiritual meaning as well.

Salt was sometimes strewn on the ground while uttering a curse against a vanquished enemy as an offering to the gods so that they would carry out the curse. The idea that say the Romans sowed salt to literally render land infertile was a 19th century misunderstanding of the practice.
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>>53653312
You're arguing it's good to spread your religion because you believe it is good. That's pretty shitty from an international standpoint and rather selfish. Be more objective. Japan has strong traditional values that you would only further erode with western religion, you should know this. Why do you feel they should conform to your standards? Islam is the least of their problems right now.
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>>53650360
>evangelize
>good work

They have enough of you people.
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>>53655168
He's not spreading it because he believes it's good, he's spreading it because because he believes it's true. There's a fundemental difference between the two.
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>>53655239
It doesn't matter either way, it means the same thing to me. People should always try to understand that others don't believe as they do. It's willful blindness and incredibly selfish to believe you have the superior belief and need to enlighten others with it, no matter how strongly someone believes something they can still try to act in a way that goes against their personal feelings for the greater good. This is how following the law works.
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>>53654554
hmm are you doing it through a skool or something?
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also a lot of weebs will discurage you probably but w.e

>>53655328
reread his post bro
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>>53655239
>>53655387
>>53655239
So, if true God was evil, he should serve Him as well, despite bringing suffering and misfortune to humanity?
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>missionary
Can't you get another hobby? I don't think the chinks (koreans aside) care about your bullshit
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>>53655446
That's a big hypothetical question I can't answer right now. Luckily for us, God is good.
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>>53655530
ALLAH AHKBAR MUHHAMED JIHAD.
Thas what you people sound like to me minus the explosions.
Inb4 fedora
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>>53650360
FUCK OFF WERE FULL
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>>53650360
Fuck off, they have enough Jehovah's Witnesses already.

Realize that you're no better than the mudslimes trying to make Europe adopt sharia law because it's the "true" law
Quit trying to infect other cultures with that voluntary blindness you call "faith"
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>>53654621
>Anyway it's not like there's no Christian missions in Japan right now. Just google that shit if you want to bother them instead of starting out on your own with less resources.
Thanks, that's a good idea. I've been thinking of asking the Church what they have going on over there as well.

>>53655073
That's awful.

>>53655168
It's good to spread Christianity because that's what Jesus commanded. Christianity reinforces traditional values, because there has only ever been one system of morality, the one God built into humans when He made us. The ancients grasped that system, for the most part, Confucius and Buddha included. Modernism and liberalism on the other hand seek to trash the whole system. The war shattered Japanese religion. They could use Christianity to withstand the Mammonism being foisted on them. The West could, too.

>>53655225
Says the American. :^)

>>53655328
Most societies have observed the natural law. Those that fail to usually cease to be societies pretty quickly. Nobody can fault today's Japan on that count, and that's not what I'm doing. The natural law only gets you so far, though, and I think they could benefit from the revealed law of God, which fulfills the natural law. I'm not a relativist, but I'm already very much aware that most Japanese people aren't Christians, which is why I want to go over there in the first place.

>>53655364
No, on my own.
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>>53650360
You fucking faggots woke me up on Sundays when i fucking lived in okinawa go suck a cock you faggot I'm hungover balls deep in a jap bitch and in no mood to hear your bullshit
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make sure you watch k-on before you go
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>>53655491
This
They really don't give a fuck and the ones that do are fucking nutters
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>>53655530
Thanks God if there's no God, cause if there is God, then God forbid!

Anyway I'm quite seriously considering setting a kamidana in my room, cause I'm searching for some tool to teach myself some discipline and to fight my laziness. I know Christ will forgive me everything asking for nothing in exchange, so I can fall and tumble down miserably knowing that somebody out there still loves me. I hope Shinto spirits treat their sacrificers more seriously.

OP can practise on me before he departs.
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>>53650360
You're rare. W***bs are usually interested in anime/manga. The ones who are interested in traditional Japanese culrure are dropping off.
You seem be the one who wants to go to Japan seriously unlike American soldiers and so on. OK, I'll give some advices.

Gaijins say Japanese language is easy. It won't be meaningless even if it isn't easy for you. And you should read some books (in Japanese) about shintoism/buddhism.
As for a book of shintoism, "知識ゼロからの神道入門", as for a book of buddhism, "ブッダのことば スッタニパーダ"("ブッダの真理のことば・感興のことば").
And don't join in a group called cult.
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>>53655446
If God was evil He wouldn't have created us, or anything. Evil perverts or destroys. It can't create.

>>53655491
China is on track to be the largest Christian country in the world.

>>53655694
Jehovah's Witnesses aren't Christians.

>no better than the mudslimes
No, I'm no better than Muslims, or atheists for that matter. Christ's Word is better than what they believe, though.

>Quit trying to infect other cultures
Yes, we wouldn't want to push our opinions on people of other nationalities, would we, foreigner?

>with that voluntary blindness you call "faith"
Faith is a light in the darkness.

>>53655798
Drunkenness are fornication are sins. We should repent. God loves you.
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>>53655781
>It's good to spread Islam because that's what Mohammed commanded. Islam reinforces traditional values, because there has only ever been one system of morality, the one God built into humans when He made us.

>he has his head stuck so deep in his fantasy book that he can't see this
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one thing to keep in mind is that the country is incredibly secular, much more than most western nations, including canada. though the majority of nips will list themselves as Shintoists, in reality most are merely practising out of a cultural tradition rather than some sort of genuine religious belief.

combine this with the fact that only liberal college kids will befriend foreigners, and i think you're in for a fairly difficult time, amigo.

good luck, nonetheless.
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>>53655971
Why hate on us GIs tojo?
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>>53655781
Jesus commands! amen brother, repent and pray for the souls of the heathens and degenerates on this world, cities shall burn and salt will be spread upon these lands of whom God has allowed to prosper in sin. The time is nigh brother, it is!
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>>53655989
>Drunkenness are fornication are sins. We should repent. God loves you.

There is nothing wrong with drinking and fucking on the weekend you dick

But there is something annoying about some one knocking at random apartment doors in the fucking morning nigga if i belived in god or wanted to go to church i would be there no amount of shit literature and creepy cult buzzwords gonna make me go believe in some fucking fairytales
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>religious people on anime imageboards
Kek, how do you people do it. Im fairly sure browsing 4chen is a sin.
Do you shithead hypocrites do it just out of edgyness?
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>>53650360
Christainity has utterly ruined and destroyed Canada, America, and Europe.

Why would you want to spread that Cancer to Japan? There is a reason you are taking in Rapefugees and they aren't.
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>>53655938
You think you can get to God through your own efforts, that you can deserve salvation by your own merit? That's hubris.

>>53655971
Thanks. I have some interest in Japanese culture, history, and archaeology. I already have my Church so I won't be joining any organizations. Part of the reason why I want to go to Japan is because I'm worried about all the weird cults cropping up there.

>>53655990
Muhammad was a false prophet, but a good portion of what he taught was actually true and comports with traditional morality, yes.

If you want to kill mosquitoes, you mix poison together with sugar water, after all.

>>53656006
Thanks. I'm not planning on beating down anyone's door or anything, so hopefully I won't step on anyone's toes.

>>53656050
lol They have evangelicals in South America?
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>>53655989
Matter can be seen as perversion. All material constructs are holding in one piece only because of their imperfections, like dislocations in crystals.
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>I shall go to another country and try to change them to be more like me!
>I shall research their customs for the sole purpose of changing them!

you honestly think that's going to be taken well by anyone?

>>53656098
this. so much this. this place is sin incarnate
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>>53653312
>raised atheist
>converted to Christianity presumably as a reaction to SJWism
>antisemite
>implying just because believing in something supernatural sometimes motivates people to get their life together means that belief is true
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>>53650360

Unless you're converting them to Orthodoxy you're doing it wrong. From the sounds of it you're some kind of Protestant fuccboi
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>>53656293
This 100%.

It is like if you got trenchfoot and were saved by amputating your leg off, and then insisting that other, perfectly healthy people do the same because it worked for you.
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>>53656066
>There is nothing wrong with drinking and fucking on the weekend you dick
There's nothing wrong with drinking as long as you do it in moderation.

There's nothing wrong with sex as long as you do it within the bounds of holy matrimony.

It's kind of like how there's nothing wrong with doing a cartwheel, just as long as you don't do it off a cliff.

>But there is something annoying about some one knocking at random apartment doors in the fucking morning nigga if i belived in god or wanted to go to church i would be there no amount of shit literature and creepy cult buzzwords gonna make me go believe in some fucking fairytales
I actually agree about door-to-door evangelism. It seems like it would just annoy most people, and it's not how I'd go about evangelism. Have you tried reading the Bible and going to church? You might like it more than you think. I used to feel the same way as you.

>>53656098
It's really not that bad, not any moreso than most media. I'm a big boy and believe me, I know from personal experience that the world isn't all sunshine and lollipops, and chans are just an honest reflection of the world. Jesus commanded us not to hide ourselves away from the world. I do hide porn posts on blue boards, and try not to visit adult boards. I hang out on /christian/ a lot, and the Christian threads on /pol/ and /his/ are always nice. And I never said I wasn't a hypocrite.
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>>53656293
youre adorable
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>>53656202
>Once got tricked by a group of Christians in japan pretending to be a group invited me to the beach said sure had nothing going on that day

>Guy says we have to stop at this building first

>Sure why not this is where we meet up

>Take elevator walk into room

>Ah shit nigga see its a church group

>Some qts there decide eh fuck it already caught and hungover

>Endure bullshit session

>Finally head to beach

>Qts staring at me asking me questions

>They hahve crazy eyes

> they talk about wanting to be a perfect wife and to marry a faithful man

> shit is creep

>Go to the beach its a baptism

>Fuggg go in water be the only one swimming

>Grab some beers and ponder how i fucked up

>They ask me if i am going to church qts stare with intensity to see if i will go

>Say maybe but nope in my mind
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>>53653312
>The rest pretty much just live in squalor and despair, turning to hiphop gangsterism or the occult to find meaning in their lives.

So what CHRISTIAN America and CHRISTIAN Europe are turning into, with shit tons of Rapefugees thrown in?

Don't make me laugh, Europeans are abandoning Christianity left and right. Some countries are approaching <50% belief in Europe, and America is headed in the same direction if you look at the youth. If Christianity were oh so great, you would think that they would be 100% devout, like the Islamic countries.
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>>53656367
> Have you tried reading the Bible and going to church? You might like it more than you think. I used to feel the same way as you.

Yes i have and realized it was dumb to believe in the edited works of sheep farmers from thousands of years ago

Better to read some philosophy engage in thought or meditation and follow your own path than to be slave of a religion friendo
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>>53655989
>if god was evil he wouldn't have created things that constantly kill/steal/destroy his other creations/etc etc
He could have at least done a better job with our neurology so that our behavior wasn't so shitty...
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>>53656172
I don't want to earn any merits. I want to form myself to be able to struggle for food and whatnot in everyday life. Christianity (Catholicism and Pentecostalism) formed me bad way in this sense, so I rejected them, using Satanism as a tool to get rid of this formation (mostly emotional formation BTW).

Now I'm searching for tools of formation to make myself even better, in a sense of ability to live like a human being and not some bum. Was I pure fedora, I wouldn't care at all about spirituality, yet I'm natural born believer, so I want to use this trait of mine in personal development.
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>>53656367
>implying
The Bible DOES say to cut out anything from your life causing you to sin, even to the point of reading out your eye.

>>53656370
Prove me wrong then.
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>>53656460
>He could have at least done a better job with our neurology so that our behavior wasn't so shitty...

But then we wouldn't be gullible enough to believe some hogwash written by people thousands of years ago who genuinely thought the Earth was the center of the Universe.
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>>53656367
>There's nothing wrong with sex as long as you do it within the bounds of holy matrimony.

But why? Because some book of fairy tales told you do so?

What happens if it told you to burn homosexuals alive, would you do it?
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>because there has only ever been one system of morality

Please, leave us alone from this Christian-Islam tug of war. Clearly monotheism says fuck to shinto, and such centralization of ideals is the very problem with you westerns. Its hilarious that you can so fanatically preach YOUR ideals as the ultimate truth, yet horrific as to how far you people go when pushing your ideals on others.
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I just find it very lazy that OP is going to Japan.

There are already enough local Christians in South Korea, Japan and here for ministry. The only sects that have to still send out missionaries from the West are weirdos like the Mormons (JW are banned in SK and Singapore, as they are pacifists and therefore traitors).

Seems that you would make more mileage in a less developed country than Japan where people would be more in awe of your whiteness, education and knowledge and you could go further. The Philippines is currently a big target for evangelism from its heathen Catholic religion, I think Christianity is fast growing over there.
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>>53656589
And on top of that Christians don't even follow what they preach.

Pre-marital sex, drugs, homosexuality, pedophilia, etc.

Christian nations are the most degenerate on the planet, bar none. It is the birthplace of trans-sexuality and gay marriage.
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>>53656519
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are you illiterate? reread our posts
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>>53656705
At this point OP might as well go to Western Europe.

Locals don't give a shit about Christianity, and Islamic immigrants are beginning to take over.
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>>53656105
>Liberalism, Modernism, and Marxism have utterly ruined and destroyed Canada, America, and Europe.

ftfy

>>53656173
That's the heresy of gnosticism. Matter is good.

>>53656202
Actually, Christianity tends to make people more like themselves. Believe me, I have no desire to make Japan like Canada. Part of the reason why I want to go there is to get away from here. My interest in Japan actually goes a bit beyond my plans for evangelism, but since the topic of my thread is my desire to do missionary work, I framed it that way.

>>53656293
I converted maybe ten years ago so SJWism wasn't as strong back then, but yeah, I'll admit, the insanity of the left did repulse me a bit from my godless ways.

I'm not an anti-Semite. I just acknowledge the fact that Jews hate Christ, Christianity, and Christians. I mean, have you ever listened to them talk on the subject?

>implying just because believing in something supernatural sometimes motivates people to get their life together means that belief is true

I never made this argument. I was merely responding to the argument that Christianity makes the lives of peoples who convert to it worse, which isn't true.

>>53656307
Catholic, my schismatic brother.

>>53656446
>CHRISTIAN America and CHRISTIAN Europe
lol. Stopped reading there.

Seriously though, check out the Parable of the Sower. There's another parable that applies but I'll have to look it up.
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>>53654153
Do you honestly belive that relgion is so important in Japanese day to day life that all they do all the time is practice their religion? And besides, anyone with a basic knowledge of Japanese history and culture knows that this is a huge waste of time. Japan is one of the most xenophobic counties on the planet and barely even accepts foreigners who have lived there for years into their society. How the fuck do you expect to be able to get them to convert to a relgion that you like just because you say so?
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>>53656754
Can you answer his question first?

>raised atheist
>converted to Christianity presumably as a reaction to SJWism
>antisemite
>implying just because believing in something supernatural sometimes motivates people to get their life together means that belief is true

There is no reason to believe this isn't you in a nutshell.
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>>53656762
>that's sin
>that's heresy

That's according to your belief system, which I don't share at this moment. Also:

>>53656589

- Japan has spoken. Leave them alone, they don't need you.
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>>53656762
>Liberalism, Modernism, and Marxism have utterly ruined and destroyed Canada, America, and Europe.

Kind of funny how none of that infected a non-religious, but spiritual society like Japan.

It wasn't communists calling for a Refugee family in every Church in Europe, it was the Pope. Merkel belongs to the Christian Democratic Union, and is forcing Germany to take in 10 million refugees. Japan is taking 0, Gulf Islamic Countries are also taking in 0.

Christianity is the weakest link. It can't resist Liberalism, Modernism, and Marxism instead it arguably propagates them. Only spirituality and Islam can. Hence why Christianity is on the decline in Europe, and Islam on the rise.
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>>53656762
>I'm not an antisemite, BUT I believe things about the Jews that would justify hating them to the vast majority of people
BTW if Christianity is so great, how did it managed to get destroyed by liberalism so easily?
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>>53656756

He just wants to go somewhere comfortable. Its very dishonourable. He is forgetting that the primary purpose of mission work is to follow in the footsteps of Christ and help the poor and those in need. Converting them and saving souls is a happy side benefit.

Misunderstanding this is why you have tons of bibles going from well-meaning Ameripigs going to shithole countries. It is not spiritual starvation but actual starvation that must be rectified first. Mother Theresa and Albert Schweitzer knew this.

Japanese probably live better than most of us. There is advantage from missionary work there. China would be a better option but I doubt OP would want to go to reach those in need in the countryside rather than staying in cities.
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>>53656903
but it didn't, and even than Christ said there would be hard times until the very end so to hang on
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>>53656943
>Christianity didn't get destroyed in the west
>but the west is declining because it abandoned Christianity
Pick one.
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>>53656988
its been through a lot worse, and gods truth will always remain eternal.
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>>53656447
>edited works
We have really old copies of many manuscripts that don't show any significant variations. Ancient and Medieval scribes took their work very, very seriously.

>sheep farmers
So what a person does for a living determines whether or not what they say is the truth? Maybe that goes for lawyers...

>from thousands of years ago
So if someone wrote that the sky is blue thousands of years ago, they'd be wrong? Some truths don't change.

>Better to read some philosophy engage in thought or meditation and follow your own path than to be slave of a religion friendo
Or I could follow in the footsteps of much greater souls than myself instead of reinventing the wheel. You can see farther by standing on the shoulders of giants.

>>53656504
> I want to form myself to be able to struggle for food and whatnot in everyday life.
Man does not live on bread alone, but I think you realize that. Look for something beyond yourself. If you think of spirituality as just building up the edifice of yourself, you'll be disappointed, because we all get torn down someday.

>>53656519
Chans don't really cause me to sin.

>>53656558
Lifelong monogamous unions happen to make the most sense. They create the most stable environment for raising children well, and husbands and wives tend to be happier. The fact that God approves of marriage is gravy. Considering STIs and the abyss of today's dating scene and the demographic collapse of the West, "free love" is a failure.

>What happens if it told you to burn homosexuals alive, would you do it?
I'm pretty sure it does say that somewhere. :) And no, I wouldn't do it, because Jesus taught us not to punish sexual immorality with the death penalty anymore.
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>>53656988
and plus Christianity is booming in china and asia, even Africa
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>>53656009
I don't mean that. I'm not hostile to you. American soldiers in Japan didn't necessarily think of going to Japan.
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>>53656934
>Mother Theresa

She actually forcibly starved people by withholding aid until they would convert. Her relationship with other Church members running a pedophilia ring and the Dictator of Haiti is also extremely suspect.

She was propped up because she was an Albanian (Muslim majority country) and the Catholic Church desperately wanted a Saint symbol to counter their atrocious image problem.

OP isn't serious about his missionary work. He just really wants to go to Japan, a perfectly stable country that doesn't need aid or any more missionaries.

Even other Japanese posters are telling him to fuck off, and he still deludes himself into thinking that they 'need' him and his missionary work.
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I find Christianity in the Far East to be an interesting topic
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>>53656589
The Japanese don't seem too hot on Shinto anymore, either.

I'm not exactly coming to convert you at swordpoint, so why bring up the Middle Ages?

>>53656708
Christians are sinners just like everyone else, but that doesn't mean that sin isn't sin. God has helped me come a long way toward resisting temptation, but I'm not perfect, and I don't think we can expect a person to be perfect who isn't Jesus. Please don't hold the moral failures of Christians against Christ. That's just guilt by association. That said, the struggle to be good is just that, a struggle, and we're all weak, and the only hope we have of winning is with God's help.

The West is hardly Christian. Poor and rural areas in some countries are pretty Christian, but they're hardly the people in power. The upper and middle classes, especially academia, the intelligentsia, the media, and the government, have totally turned their backs on God since a long time ago. I don't think it's fair to blame society's degeneration on Christianity.
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>>53650360

1. There's travel
>>>/trl/

2. Middle East is much more important to spread Christianity.
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>>53657063
Yet it is in decline in Europe and America.

Has it never crossed your mind why some of the richest and most developed nations on Earth are abandoning Christianity?

It is an age old religion that has long since served its purpose, it is time to let it go. If you follow the trends, Europe would be as irreligious as Japan is today before 2050, barring Islamic immigrants.

Japan is actually just ahead of the curve here, you would be better off going to Europe and trying to convince others not to 'end up like those peaceful, stable non-believers in Japan'. Although that might actually have the opposite of the intended effect, Liberals don't care about religion and European Conservatives actually view Japan as a model country with regards to many issues such as immigration.
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>>53657049
>Man does not live on bread alone, but I think you realize that.

Yes, and funny enough I live on fictional narrations taken as reality. In this sense I'm probably worse than weeaboo :^) but I was always like that. And when I tried to stop being like that, because St. Paul wrote "when I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind", I begun to tumbling down and actually, I'm still among you only because I returned to my childhood imaginary world and friends in good time (and even made new ones).

Perhaps I should make a religion of my practice, but I don't know how to defend it from being laughed at.
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>>53657439

Protestantism is on the rise here actually.
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>>53657316
You claimed that Christian societies are better than Non-Christians.

Yet here you are back-peddling, now insisting that the West is not 'Christian' anymore, because it doesn't fit your narrow definition of what 'Real Christianity' is (Kind of like how Muslims insist that terrorists aren't ''real'' Muslims).

And if you believe that 'academia, the intelligentsia, the media, the government' (funny how the most educated of society is the least religious)' have turned their backs on God, what on Earth are you going to Japan for? There is missionary work to be done at home, clean your own backyard before criticizing a neighbor's.

Japan doesn't have nearly the same problems as the West's 'degeneracy', obviously they need Christ a lot less than the West in that case. You have your priorities wrong.
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Shintoism explained for anyone that's interested:

>X(person) was an amazing person
>I wanna be just like X and follow in X's footsteps!
>build shrine to X so I can "commune" with him
>X gives me strength, advice, "divine protection"
>lol just kidding it's actually all in my head, but whatever works
>other people start taking notice that it works
>other people interested in X start hanging out at your shrine
>community activities such as partying start to take place regularly at the shrine
>congratulations, you have now started yet another local sect of Shinto

it's basically an elaborate system of "what would X do?" that other people can also participate in.
No holy texts for people to argue over regarding interpretation, no taboos about what to eat or what not to do, just live your life so the X in your head isn't going to get pissed off at you.
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>>53657525
Most of that has to do with Catholics turning their backs on what they view as a corrupt and dishonest Church.

As far as overall belief goes, Christianity is on the decline barring immigration. It takes 2-3 generations for them to acculture to the non-religious attitude of modern American culture.
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>>53657619

Secular doesn't mean non religious anon.
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If Christian Religion spread in Japan,we would be targeted by shit muslims.so no thank you.
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>>53656775
With God all things are possible.

>>53656887
I guess we can agree to disagree.

>>53656888
There wouldn't be a population vacuum in Europe if they hadn't been killing half of their unborn children for the past several generations. Maybe Europeans should start listening to everything the Pope says?

Anyway, most of Asia is Marxist. The Middle East used to be Liberal and Modernist, and Islamism was born as a reaction against that.

>>53656903
My beliefs shouldn't justify hating Jews to anyone. I just dislike Judaism.

Also, Christianity isn't destroyed. The gates of Hell won't prevail against us.

>>53656934
>>53657266
There are poor people everywhere. There are poor people in Japan. I don't live comfortably myself compared to most Canadians, and I won't be living comfortably in Japan. These accusations are coming from a place of bitterness.

>>53657439
Ever heard the story of the Ant and the Grasshopper?

>>53657564
>You claimed that Christian societies are better than Non-Christians.
Actually I claimed that Christianity brings both conflict and blessings, and that non-Christian societies are perfectly capable of following the natural law on their own.

>Yet here you are back-peddling, now insisting that the West is not 'Christian' anymore, because it doesn't fit your narrow definition of what 'Real Christianity' is
Everything good the West has it got when it was Christian.

>funny how the most educated of society is the least religious
You must be enlightened by your own intelligence.

>what on Earth are you going to Japan for
The reason I'm going to Japan isn't on earth.

>>53657677
You're already targeted by Muslims. The entire world is.
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>>53657677
No, worse. Some people would start saying how ragheaded muslims are, and treat them so. Muslims would retaliate, and we would fuckin deserve it.
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>>53657660
It is explicitly about belief in a religion.

You can read the professional polls yourself.

>http://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/americas-changing-religious-landscape/

22.8% of irreligion is a huge number, and when you start to realize how prominent that belief is in Youth, so you can start to realize where the country is heading. Older, religious generations will gradually fall-off and increasingly irreligious generations will become more prominent as time goes on.

Japan is simply ahead of the curve here. They are an accurate representation of where the West is heading in just a few generations. Only way to reverse this trend is illegal immigration from religious Mexico.
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>>53657816

No secular is keeping religion out of government. It has nothing to do with people's social or private life
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>>53657599
>No holy texts for people to argue over regarding interpretation
Actually I keep myself away from Christianity by reading the Bible. The funniest passage I found so far was from some David's Psalm, where God literally rides on a cherub, terrifying enemies of Israel. So much for meteors, folks!
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I've got to knock off for tonight. Thanks for your replies, folks. Jesus loves you!
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>>53657761
>Everything good the West has it got when it was Christian.

"West is only Christian when I say it is!"

West is still majority Christian, although it is quickly changing.

You seem to be stuck between two worlds where you believe Christian societies > Non-Christian ones, yet dogmatically deny a society of being Christian the moment when it turns to shit. Which, surprise! All the Christian (excuse me '''''formerly'''''' Christian) countries are becoming. Yet we have a society that is on-par or better than the Christian West, has nothing to do with Christianity, and not turning to shit. Seems to me that they are better that way, and you should be more worried about trying to preach to the West.
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>>53657761
>I guess we can agree to disagree.
Well, if you want to. But your conversion strategy here is knocking some rules into some blockhead till he starts repeating them after you. And I'm not a blockhead.
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>>53657849
Read the poll.

It was explicitly asking about RELIGION, not about Secularism. 22.8% of all Americans do NOT believe in Religion, this trend will only increase as time goes on as it is much stronger in younger generations.

America is on track to becoming as irreligious as Japan in a few generations. It is inevitable.
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Superior ethics do not need fuckin myths to justify themselves. Interaction with other people makes them self evident. No wonder religion is becoming unpopular. It was important before, it is a hobby now.
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>>53658024

>unaffiliated means atheist
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>>53658147
>Atheist
>Irreligious

You don't understand what irreligious means, do you?
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>>53658242

It means they don't follow religion, not that they don't believe in god
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>>53658261
Yes, and where did I say anything about belief in god?

Religion is a dying and outdated concept. All the statistics show it, and irreligion is the inevitable future.
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>>53650360
I've never attended Church on a Sunday nor ever gone to one for a spiritual event. I wasn't raised a Christian, nobody in my immediate family has ever been religious. Because of that, I have wondered as to what Christianity is about....

Tell me about Jesus.
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God bless, Canada.
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>>53650360
>current year
>religion
>an Abrahamic sandnigger religion on top of that
I mean COME ON
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>>53650360

Keep up the good work
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>>53658448
>everybody's screwed up, imperfect
>God is 100% purity and thus one sin is enough to be separated
>all human paths lead to death, there's no denying it
>forgiveness rolls around by God taking your "place" on the cross and experiencing death in a human body, though with a perfect spirit
>it's said that Jesus, God's son, "became sin for us": the punishment was shifted to him, including the chief concept of separation from God (for a time)
the most common verse you may have heard is "John 3:16"
>For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.

these are the basic tenets; hope this helps
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>>53658432

The poll says unaffiliated not irreligious
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WHY NOT LET THE CULTURES IN PEACE !!!?
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>>53650360
How do you even get a visa. You won't have a proper job.
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Eastern Asian intellectuals have traditionally considered ethics to belong to human, not to gods.
I wonder if gods, or the God?, or other spiritual things really matter.
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