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Are Ukrainian and Russian mutually understandable, like Danish and Swedish?

Or are they mutually unintelligible, like French and Italian?
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They are mutually intelligible to the point of it basically being the same language. Nationalist Ukrainians will deny this though
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ukranian is just Russian for niggers.
its basicly finnish for sweds.
Niggers developed they own slang just for lulz, since they think they are real nation and stuff.
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>>53625334
....what is the difference
they both sound like exactly the same version of feminine drunk serbian to me
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>>53625568
t. Kievan colony.
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>>53625334
I don't think so
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>>53625568
>its basicly finnish for sweds.
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>>53625691
Житeль мaняpocии зaкyкappeкaл.
Кaкoгo кoгдa тeбя eбyт Pyccкиe a бoмбят хoхлы?
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>>53625814
How is it to be a real mongol being?
And a real pidorashka...
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>>53625568
Ukraine should switch to a latin alphabet to seal the difference
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>>53625950
Sorry, didnt quite catch that.
Where you trying to meme with "real human bein"
or just poorly copied pasta to google translate?
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>>53625814
Stop using your communist letters, you bolshevist pig. One day Königsberg will be ours again.
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>>53625814
Can you cool it with the moonrunes
I want to be able to understand this thread
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>>53625546
That's like saying Portuguese is mutually intelligible with Spanish

>>53625568
No
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>>53626051
Are you that nigger that spamm threads about
t. lets change cyrillic to latin
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>>53626115
>bein
In the song it is "being", as meme it is " bean".
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>>53626051
chuinya povna
>>53625814
пoкa мeня eбeт тoлькo жизнь :(
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>>53625334
>like Danish and Swedish?
I can read Danish but when danes speak I don't understand a word. I understand norwegian tho.
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>>53626193
>That's like saying Portuguese is mutually intelligible with Spanish
but it is

Ukrainian is Russian
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>>53625334
it's like High Gernan and Low German
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>>53625334
First.
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>>53626193
Portuguese is absolutely mutually intelligible with Spanish m8
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>>53626318
>>53626381
Ok I fugged up. But as I recall, Ukrainian is more like a polish-russian hybrid
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>>53626344
But probably 90% Ukrainians knows fluently russian language ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>53626245
Russophone fanatic please leave Ukraine
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>>53626245
>Stop using your communist letters, you bolshevist pig. One day Königsberg will be ours again.
last time i checkd, wed still won.
>Can you cool it with the moonrunes
No.
>>53626193
>diaspora opinion
Next time i will need something like this i would ask my home pet donbass refugie.
Thanks.
>>53626245
>пoкa мeня eбeт тoлькo жизнь :(
Hy ты жe хoхoл, мнe кaжeтcя или зa 25 лeт yжe мoжнo былo-бы нayчитcя кyдa дyплoм cвeтить чтoбы былo пpoфитнo.
ATO тyдa-cюдa тyдa-cюдa.
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>>53625568
m8, ukrainian is probably closer to portugese than finnish is to swedish
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>>53625568
Finnish is way different than Swedish retard
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>>53625334
Stalin Starved east Ukraine and replaced them with russians.

Sweden and Denmark share a long history, but communism is fucking medieval evil.
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>>53625568
If they're mutually intelligible why do russian news dub russian over ukrainian?
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>>53626750
>Stalin Starved east Ukraine and replaced them with russians.
read it on reddit?
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>>53626822
what's your preferred source? Great Soviet Encyclopedia?
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>>53626906
Da.
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>>53626790
>If they're mutually intelligible why do russian news dub russian over ukrainian?
what
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>>53627020
I've been eating lunch at my parents place this past week and they usually have Perviy Baltiyskiy on. Whenever some news from Ukraine would come up (flu epidemic, salmonela eggs, broken ceasefire) and someone would speak Ukrainian there would be a russian voice over.
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>be Russia
>invade and carve up east Europe with ally Nazi Germany
>kill 8 million Ukrainians
>wonder why everyone hates you
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>>53626906
my source is my grandmother who lose her youngest brother and sister due to 1930's famine and she lived 200km from fucking moscow
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>>53627158
Drunkard, pleas.
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>>53627157
Its just one of propaganda moves.
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>>53627270
So the russians are trying to make people think ukrainians speak a different language? What?

I know it's mutually intelligible up to a point, I have been multiple times to both Russian and Ukraine. Whenever someone in Kiev would start speaking fast I could barely understand every other word, so there are differences.
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>>53625334
I understand 60-70% of Ukrainian speech.

>>53625568
They preserved more Russian words then there is in our modern city speech. I'm talking about main Ukrainian language or dialect or whatever you like to call it, not bastardised Polish from the west.
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>>53626489
Bulgarophone. Not everything here belongs to Russia.

>>53626575
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>>53626335
This.
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>>53627364
>So the russians are trying to make people think ukrainians speak a different language?
Yes.
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>>53627518
>Not everything here belongs to Russia.
You can have all that was in galicia kingdome.
Every thing other are rightfully oua clay.
Give it back, you filthy cuckhole
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>>53627157
>>53627364
It's dubbed because people should understand what is said? Pretty clear to me.
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>>53625334
Ukrainian is a creole language — half XIV century Russian and half-Polish. I can understand main idea when someone is speaking it, but not every detail.
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>WE
Russians hungry for local conflicts ITT.
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>>53627592
But that makes no sense.

>inb4 yмoм Poccию нe пoнять
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Question 2:
Is Ukrainian closer to Moscow dialect than Moscow dialect is to Vladivostok dialect?
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>>53625546
And you must be an expert in both to have such strong opinion
Aлe, нaжaль, в peaльнocтi кaцaпи нe poзyмiють yкpaїнcькy, тoмy твoє cтвepджeння - хибнe.
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>>53628047
Kuban dialect,because it's used to be Ukrainian.
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>>53627774
Well memed snownigger
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>>53627920
Пoчeмy вce oчeнь пpocтo, нyжнo oтвecти нaceлeниe oт pитopики
>бpaтcкий нapoд.
Haдo зacтaвить нaceлeниe вocпpинимaть ceльcкyю мoвy нa cлyх кaк гвoздeм пo cтeклy.
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>>53628226
So proper invasion when?
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>>53628047
There is very little difference between different dialects of Russian, so no.
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>>53628484
Sure bud all the languages of former ussr cunt trees are dialects of russian. You have some of the best linguistic knowledge.
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>>53628332
when oil hit 20.
>>53628085
>Aлe, нaжaль, в peaльнocтi кaцaпи нe poзyмiють yкpaїнcькy, тoмy твoє cтвepджeння - хибнe.
Oчepeднoй диacпopa выблядoк pacкyкapeкaлcя.
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>>53628791
Кaк тaм cpyбль?
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>>53628192
Ruthenian language (used in Grand Duchy of Lithuania) is nearly the same that old-Russian. Russian evolved with Church Slavonic and Germanic/Romance influence, because of Orthodox church and westernisation. Ukranian and Belorussian languages changed more slowly, because they were mostly used by villagers. They still have Slavic names for months, not Roman, for example.Townpeople and nobles speaked Polish. Today village dialects of Russian are very close to Ukrainian, only lack some Polish loanwords to be the same.
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>>53628919
Bce нopмaльнo, вcя вoлoкoлaмкa пиздятинoй тopгyeт мoвoй пoпyтнo oтдaвaя.
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>>53628791
Bummer. That very well might be a real thing. I check oil each morning. It's still going down down down...
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>>53628959
>Ruthenian language
Tip top kek
Le invention of insecure chauvinist russian academics
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>>53629649
What the fuck are you talking about, idiot?
Ruski was a real fucking language.

All Ruthenians used to speak that before Tatars and Mongols.
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>>53629649
Do you consider Statutes of Lithuania written in it a fake made by Czar's gendarmerie just like The Protocols?
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>>53628613
> all the languages of former ussr cunt trees are dialects of russian

Please be a troll.
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>>53626193
Actually it is, we can understand like 80% of what is written in Spanish.
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>>53628047
There is 0 difference between Moscow and Vladivostok dialects 2bh lad
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>>53628613
>american education
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>>53630217
>>53630453
>spanish and canadian reading comprehension
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>>53627364
Sometimes even Portugal's portuguese is dubbed here, but that doesnt mean we cant understand their portuguese, its just that it takes us some effort.
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>>53628613
>bud
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>>53626822
STALIN DINDU NUFFIN WRONG. HE WAS A GUD BOYY
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>>53627158
BUT THEY BUILT FACTORIES THERE WHICH NONE OF THESE COUNTRIES COULD HABE POSSIBLY DONE ON THEIR OWN
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>>53634436
>BUT THEY BUILT FACTORIES
you telling me that actual russians went there and built factories for ukrainians?
awww that's cute
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>>53625568
Finnish isn't even from the same root as Swedish.
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>>53625334
They are quite similar, but there are also some important differences, let's take even basic expressions like "thank you":
-rus. "spasibo"
-ukr. "dyakuyu" (it's much closer to Polish "dziękuję" than to Russian)

another example - "godbye"
rus. "dosvidania"
ukr. "do pobachennya" (closer to Polish "do zobaczenia")

Or check this - when Poles address someone politely they say "pan" (sir, lord), Russians use verbs in second person plural ("vy"/you plural), but Ukrainians can use both ways - "pan" and "vy"

Some grammar endings are more similar in Polish and Russian, like infinitive ending ć/t', while in Ukrainian it's "ty" (I think that it comes from Old-Church Slavonic, but I'm not sure).

tl;dr
Russian and Ukrainian are very close, but in many cases Ukrainian is closer to Polish and sometimes it has features/expressions unknown in both Russian and Polish.
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>>53638588
>and sometimes it has features/expressions unknown in both Russian and Polish.
all that chauvinist passive-aggressive "superiority" bullshit from poles and russians have always amused me
can you guys accept the reality in which some languages just emerged from mutual source and they are not just the branch or changed version of your shitty languages?
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>>53638785
you seem to be really buttblasted, Mykola, I didn't write that Ukrainian "comes" from Russian or Polish (although it's a fact that it was heavily influenced by these two languages)
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>>53639041
>sometimes it has features/expressions unknown in both Russian and Polish.
yep you implying that sometimes aka occasionally, rather than all of the time it has something original.
sigh, shove your polish pride in your butt where it came from, Marek

>although it's a fact that it was heavily influenced by these two languages
and you probably have PhD in etymology?
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>>53639241
>you probably have PhD in etymology
Actually in history so I know what people like Mykhailo Hrushevsky wrote about this influence.
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>>53626140
The fact that Königsberg is now in the hands of degenerate Muscovites and renamed"Kaliningrad" is a real fucking disgrace.
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>>53627212
not a very reliable source tbqh. Here's a better one
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>Lithuania

LITERALLY WHO ?!
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>>53644347
You know, the people who were in charge of your country when it wasn't shit.
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>>53644856
you mean people who were so ashamed of living in lithuania they escaped to Poland at first occasion?
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>>53645396
No, that's not what I meant, and it's rather silly of you to imply I did.
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>>53626140
Why? So you can flood it with your refugees? Kaliningrad is one of the whitest places in Europe. Leave it alone.
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>>53645444
don't even bother in discussions with polacks
they are just as chauvinist and nationalist with "muh great past" as russians. Different sides of same shitty coin and a lot of nations needed to deal with both of them for centuries
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>>53626193
This whole thread is shitty.
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>>53625334
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>>53627158
>ally

Wot

Would you rather they gave all of Poland and all of Poland's jews to the Nazi's instead.
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>>53646122
>Girdenis & Mažiulis
Why was it made by lithuanians? It's probably fake. And gay. I bet you all speak russian.
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>>53628613
Stop posting.
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>>53646217
>It's called "Non-Aggression Treaty" all right?!
>we will just invade and rape one country from both sides but it doesn't make us allies OKAY?!
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>>53646377
>one country
No. They carved up entire EE.
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>>53643647
>A meme map from the time period where everyone claimed land via ethnic groups
>a good source
Pick one
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>>53646122
Where is Wendish?
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>>53646434
poland was the only they fucked together, other countries were fully under soviet or nazi influence by agreement
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>>53646563
Well, according to the plan Lithuania was to go under german influence, but it went mostly to Russia, with a small bit going to Germany for a little while.
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>>53646377
They in no way were allies. Suggesting they were is retarded on another level.
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>>53646510
wenen=west slavs
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>>53646434
Baltics != entire EE.

Still butthurt about 76 years ago?
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>>53646249
tvoja mama šugava rosprava rusky
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>>53646626
Well I guess in a weird way the treaty ended up being fulfilled in 2015.
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>>53646719
>Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Kaliningrad, Belarus Ukraine, Poland, bit of Romania
>"baltics"

>>53646719
Literally the only non-russian word in your post is "šugava". Good job.
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>>53646792
>2015
But we've been in EU since 2003
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>>53646842
tvoja in ALL slavic lang = your's
mama in ALL slavic lang = mother
rusky in most slavic lang = russian
rosprava only in slovak lang = talking
šugava only in south slavic lang = ridden with Scabies
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>>53647008
Oh, so you're 3/5th russian instead of 4/5ths.
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>>53647059
ja ho krstim a on prdi
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>>53647059
slavic ≠ russian
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>>53647259
Is it something about christening and farts? I'm pretty sure you dropped some vowels.
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>>53647333
https://translate.google.rs/translate?hl=en&sl=sr&u=http://vukajlija.com/ja-ga-krstim-a-on-prdi&prev=search
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>>53647396
Slang is usually lost in translation, you should know that.
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>>53647436
>I tell him one thing and he does another.
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>>53647436
a co povies na toto:

kurva litvanska nakazena cinskym sifilisom keru ostievali morskie psy?
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>>53646122
and where is croatian on this map?
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>>53625334
>Danish and Swedish
>mutually intelligible
why is it always anglos being retarded?
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>>53647650
there is not serbian AND croatian language

there is ONE serbocroatian/croatianserbian language

one language is dialect of another
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>>53645666
There are dark forces winthin this post's id
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>>53638785
Are you an idiot?
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