So... The Jew York Times is complaining about something the polish did. What's your take on it?
I fully support our government. Hail Kaczyński, death to Germans.
It's business as usual in Poland, the only difference is that now it's conservatives who are doing wrong and immoral things now, as opposed to centrist liberals that were doing them previously.
Basically it's tradition in Poland that winner of election begins appointing people in media and courts. But present government is doing it with marginally more arrogance than previous one did AND the opposition has friends in western media. Case in point: president of european council Donald Tusk used to be leader of deposed party, which also happens to be member of biggest faction in EU parliament.
Conversely present government is member of minority reformist party in EU parliament and their leadership has reputation of populism.
At the end of the day it's the case of "I believe people who tend to agree with me over facts"
brehs my cousin was executed for being gay lmao
whole village laughed and invited the execution squad for dinner at the church presbytery
pretty cool guys desu
Just like Bulgaria is a rightful t*rkish clay
Haven't really paid close attention but German media is obviously giving them shit as well. The only tangible accusation they made was that Poland changed the majorities the constitutional court needs to declare legislature unlawful, which in my opinion is actually favoring democracy.
I also remember an article blaming their government for filling important posts with their own guys, which apparently is evil if done by a party we don't like.
tl;dr journalism, not even once
It's interesting the new government almost completely dropped anti-russian rethoric and they used to be huge russophobes not so long ago. I sense Poland, Russia, Hungary alliance incoming.
do you intend to be gay in public? I'm perfectly ok with faggots faggoting around in their own house, as long as they pay taxes and don't write articles for GW
will they ever recover from banter like that
NSDAP was elected democratically, mainly by Protestants
Hitler lost only in Bavaria, next to his fucking homeland
I think Poland IS being stupid, Germany is just insane, and the Americans shouldn't be criticising anybody given the state of affairs in that country
Basically, you're all shit and the UK is righteous and stronk
We will build a tank catapult(one that uses tanks as ammo) and attack the US of A.
>The problem is that Mr. Kaczynski, and others who similarly perceive the European Union or the institutions of liberal democracy as a threat to their way of life, fail to understand that a union of shared values and liberties, and independent institutions to safeguard them, is the surest defense against the sort of dictatorship they endured under Communism.
Countries need to be part of the EU to ensure democracy?
What an odd thing to say.
We're not in Schengen so they can't come through Europe unless they want to see the sights of Calais, the only thing we have to worry about is homegrown terrorists who our security services can track
I forgot to add the pic.
Polan cannot into relevance
Gib qts and pierogi
We NATO nao
is this a ruse?
>POLLAKS CAN ONLY GET MONEY FROM EU
>WHY THE FUCK DO THEY WANT TO HAVE THEIR OWN INDUSTRY
>WHY AREN'T THEY LEECHING MORE
>WHY DIDN'T THEY ELECT THE PRO-GERMAN PARTY
> I sense Poland, Russia, Hungary alliance incoming.
Ah, the alliance of "not parasites". Sounds formidable my friend.
Do you have no fucking idea how our ancestors fought for freedoms, such as having a free press and freedom of speech?
Censoring and controlling the media is some fucking medieval shit.
Honestly, I would be legitimately angry if Poland tilted to Russia. Not just for NATO, but the fact that the Polish government would be willing to forget katyn, 40 years of occupation, solidarity, and its president crashing in Russia for brownie points. Disgusting tbqh
Your media are censoring shit about mehmets on government's orders.
i see poles need another teutonic order to keep them in check
dumb subhumans. it's sad generalplanost didn't work out.
100-year war comes to the top of my had, but we can be sure that there a lot more bad blood between them.
>Russian genoside of poles
Come of youe high horce already, you don't see us killing germans on the streets, you act like a barbarian.
>You did the same to nazis
That's my point, the y are all dead and we have to burry their heritage to move on, the only other option is the utter destruction of your "enemy" with will make you the same as him, and in the end the only result will be less white people and more niggers on face of Earth.
I have to agree with Ivan on this one. It was USA that funded ISIS. You're not fooling anybody.
We cannot be partners nor allies since we don't have common "mission" in the long term.
They did some shit on civilians when the Red Army entered. Stalin wanted to do the same as Hitler.
I'm looking for the link to it now.
No it doesn't? Do you not understand what "censoring and controlling the media" means?
I'll gladly consider any proof you have that the swedish press isn't free.
Excellent meme, very dank.
>after the French Revolution people just swapped God for the State
u wot m8?
That's not the same as the government directly meddling however
Mission is to survive i suppose and we are tied together to hard to ignore our relationship. So, why not make it better. Althoug, i think that Russian government will make a dick of itself again and Poles will throw a fit...G-d we never learn.
Russians don't watch RT.
Also ISIS is your doing, one way or another.
They would never become a thing if you didn't topple Saddam and Gaddafi and didn't try to do the same shit with Assad.
>>after the French Revolution people just swapped God for the State
>u wot m8?
Nationalism became a thing thing thanks to the revolution.
Before that no one cared where you were born as long as you weren't a moor and obeyed the king/lords.
the King was a figure to rally people together, without one they had to replace it with nationalism.
Why are you putting words in my mouth? I never defended that. All forms of censorship are bad. The media should be free to report on everything. Especially things the government might not approve of. Critical voices are essential in a modern society.
Explain it to me then
they're probably afraid the "restitution" of nationalizd property will stop. This is big bussiness in ex-commie cunts and often times the real owners don't get their hose/land back but they sell their rights to other intermediares. nothing makes cut dick wetter than profiting off of someone by being intermediary. this is what most jews do in society,the don't produce anything,they're just gate keepers:bankers lawyers agents etc etc
I'll stay with muslim pick then, they are the strongest party in the EU now anyway, and I prefer my pick be a winning one.
poland is... I just can't see you guys win, you are trying to fight something which provides you with the very means to live, you can't survive without EU and you won't get anything from them without abiding their rules. you'll bend to them sooner or later.
we were always right and just, gentle like angels
never commited any war crimes, never oppressed anyone, never genocided
Christ of Europe - Nation of Martyrs
Swedish nation on the other hand is among the children of Stan together with Germans, Russians, Jews, Westerners in general, muslims, Japs etc
only comparably righteous angelic nations to us are Ireland and Finland
>Glory to Israel and great Germany
So it's true, Jews rule Germoney
it's always right to criticize wrongdoing.
Why do you think it's wrong to be a hypocrite? Do you think it's because people don't like hearing criticism? No, hypocrisy is wrong because you may be unaware of your own failures or trespasses. But it's still better to be a hypocrite than to abet evil.
So, I've just read that article and the one mentioned in it's text. Basically the Times' message is: "OI, COMRADE, YOU'RE DOING NOT LIKE OTHER COMRADES IN OUR GLORIOUS RIGHTFUL UNION, YOU'RE WRONG BEING SO INDEPENDENT AND REACTIONARY".
It's very great how "New York Times" uses the word "reactionary" that Soviet propaganda loved to throw into it's enemies. Wealthy dictatorship is still a duictarorship, just heavily sugarcoated.
You don't need to have an alliance with Russian to benefit from it. Russia acts as a foil to the EU; Poland can threaten an alliance/agreement/whatever to extort money or favorable politics from the EU.
The difference here is that UK is not in schengen and is not compelled to accept quotas even if they get decided by majority in EU.
Quotas themselves are retarded on their own (and they are usually mentioned in isolation) but could make sense as part of comprehensive asylum strategy that includes stronger border control and a return policy that works.
>comprehensive asylum strategy that includes stronger border control and a return policy that works.
I stand with Poland. Liberals can go fuck themselves.
Martin Schulz is a hero. I will hang his portrait in my room. He is a strong Teutonic man like Himmler or Hans Frank and knows Polish worms must be treated with strong hand. I would offer him a sacrifice from 10 000 dead polish children, to also tribute Wehrmacht soldiers and their brave pacifications of Eastern European villages. Hail Great Germany and their ally Syrian people.
Try fighting in the next war.
National socialism was the future.
We just were tsuntsun at first.
>but German media is obviously giving them shit
Does German media has even one reliable person here? Because AFAIK they only re-print heinous articles from Wyborcza and the likes.
This is pretty accurate.
But I think you're being too harsh on the present government. The extremely unpopular former government accepted refugees over the people's wishes and appointed hundreds of pro-Germany judges in the final few days of their control.
>pooland even leeches money from defaulted countries
But they reaffirmed NATO's anti-Russia plan made in 2014?
One unproven policy makes them trash?
Poland could be pro-Russian and it still wouldn't change a thing. Poland is NATO and any invasion of NATO would lead to America unleashing our power.
The EU and Germany has always used the Russian boogeyman 2008-2014 as a cudgel against all rightwing parties and any eurosceptics.
Russia did nothing. Absolutely nothing to harm the EU and Europe until the Ukrainian civil war.
But they are a good boogeyman. Now the EU has made it either your with Merkel, or with Russia.
Poles choose democratically to change a corrupt German/EU-cuck-slave government in favour of a more conservative Polish one. And immediately:
>They are anti-democratic! Nationalists! Nazis! Supervision! Intervention!
>president crashing in Russia
some cunts have a surplus also the EU also takes money from customs&duty of each country, but of course France,the dutch and the UK have overseas territoryes that make stuff that would otherwise need to be imported like bananas and oil so trhey don't get charged etc etc ,
mayber this graph makes it easier to understand,basicaly poland sucks in more money than all the ex-commie block combined
Why would The New York Times give a damn about Poland's new government?
Of course I'll never get that house my grandfather owned but still...
I also lied for the jew meme gag (hehehehe) but my friend actually managed inheriting a building that his grandfather's family owned. Went to court in Poland and everything.
They actually had an article here about how Poland is keeping distance from having refugees and how "brave" it is to stand against Merkel and her bullshit.
I honestly have no idea how the federalists and commies across the world will react when we vote 75-80% to leave the union. There's a reason we were never given a choice before.
Some still seem to think there isn't even going to vote for some reason, even though it's law now.
The west is moving to the right as it should to survive, the old elites are fighting a loosing battle by trying to stop it. They are also destroying the media credibility by doing these bullshit opinion piece that was probably dictated to them by some polish left wing ''intellectual''.
>Russia did nothing. Absolutely nothing to harm the EU and Europe until the Ukrainian civil war.
They were supporting disruptive elements long before ukrainian crisis, from criminals to legit political parties. If EU was half as butthurt about foreign influence as Russia is, Farage, Lepen and our own communists would be considerably weaker, if they even managed to survive on political scene at all.
Of course you could justifiably call them retarded if they haven't done that. EU as a dysfunctional aggregate of squabbling rich minor powers is beneficial to them, EU as a single entity with geopolitical ambitions is an existential threat.
>kikes are mad
>germans are mad
>american libshit media is mad
I didn't vote for pis.
I would vote for them now.
Make Poland Great Again.
They're the same everywhere.
>have a civil group conversation
>suddenly a bobo/SJW comes in
>yeah free speech is important
>2 minutes later: What's with all the toxic thoughts here, do you guysh ave no shame!?
>packing the highest court with malleable judges, reducing the court’s ability to block legislation, imposing greater government control over the state-owned media, choosing a party stalwart previously convicted of abusing power to oversee the police and intelligence agencies and purging European Union flags from government press briefings.
So what he means to say when he says "dictatorial" is "something I don't like."
The state-owned media and public buildings are controlled by the state. Whodathunk?
Maby Poland just try to get back independence? EU control this country very tightly, and any dissent it's very unwelcome. Now we will be checked by EU. If there's something that they will not like, we will have to pay high sanctions with no objections
No, that it's just not fine