my family used to go to hotels in turkey (in ankara i think) before the marmara bullshit
False. It's the other way around including you.
>Think they're European
They don's. Only euros are obsessed with "europeanism"
>>Think they're above and totally different from their neighbours
>What does Isreal think about Turkey
>give no fucks
favorite tourist destination for israelis before political bullshit .
I always had a nice opinion of them, on Ylilauta they were my favorite posters and overall they seemed a semi-mediterranean comfy country (especially their west coast) and Ataturk seems like a fantastic leader and stateman.
However I really dislike their current government, I think Erdogan is undoing development and is indirectally helping ISIS just to fuck with Kurds/Russia/etc.
>not apologizing for so-called genocide
>not giving a shit about kurds due to pressure
>rekting greeks over cyprius for bantz
>shooting russian airplane for bantz
why are we so alpha? feels good to be a Turk.
unwillingness to admit your own mistake is now considered as "alpha"?
i call it "childish behaviour"
dude just stop you lost to US
come again bro, the anti jewish shit is only to get votes of the dumbest muslims, were the biggest allies in closet.
i remember when i went to bodrum hotels and there were a bunch of hot jewish girls there. best times
not "united states"
"us" as in "italians"
ye im sure italians ever "beat" us except for some minor shit in north africa when the empire was in decline
why are we not talking about all the genuese losses to ottomans or venetian losses?
What about the countless ottoman raids on italian coastline,
what about french-ottoman coastline captures?
What about that one year where we just waltzed into Otranto and chilled for some time, and you couldnt capture it back until we gave it to you because we had Throne quarrels back at home?
Kinda feel bad for the ones posting here, they obviously hate islam , being born muslim and would probably give everything they got to leave turkey and come to europe, must be frightening living in a country that at any moment someone can go ALLAH BOOM BOOM and blow you into million pieces.
>In 1481 Mehmed marched with the Ottoman army to a new campaign but when reaching Maltepe, Istanbul he became ill. After some days he died, on 3 May 1481, at the age of forty-nine, and was buried in his türbe in the cemetery within the Fatih Mosque Complex He is thought to have been poisoned; one source accuses Yakub Pasha, a Jewish convert to Islam, of administering poison to Mehmed over a period of time.
>mfw Mehmet was literally reading his army to march to rome but got poisoned by the eternal jew
get your shit togheter ahmed
Not related to this but there is a song here that says something like this
>in 3 three he met with the Sultan,he took him in a taxi and killed him in the garden
>he lit homes at night, the turks suffered at night
>lose non stop to ottomans
>manage to hold a fort for once
>WE WUZ WARRIORS N SHIT
we stopped your "empire", deal with it sandnigger
Is this the Turkish equivalent of "I am so sorry you have to see this"?
the last laugh is always the best laugh
Based as fuck, BTFO of other Europeans causing eternal butthurt of the likes of Poland for Russia.
Has superior culture and history to most of the planet
Your current leader is fucking your shit up though--just like ours
desu it's better than persian culture.
Persian mosques are ugly as sin, it looks like a bunch of easter eggs together. The Mughals were based though. Persian culture is only good if mixed with byzantine or indian culture.
Türk'ün Türk'den başka dostu yoktur.
It's kind of true though.
Greeks don't like us , Bulgarians hate us , Arabs dislike us , Iranians dislike us , Armenians you know
Only Georgians are neutral
>Arabs think you are inferior and so do the Persians
Arabs don't like us because >muh empire and also because we're not Muslim enough. Persians don't like us but generally respect us because >muh historic rivalry and also because today our countries are aligned against each other. They gauge their success by comparing to us though, their country is literal shit compared to ours.
But yeah, no country that is in any position to ally with us and make a difference except memes like South Korea and Japan likes us, and even those two are superficial since we don't have much common history or cultural exchange. We made too many enemies, and when our empire balkanized, everything around us ended up looking at us as boogeyman since we were their former overlords, and our European lands opposed our different religion as well. Neither the now independent middle east and Balkans nor the Europe that wanted to push us out for centuries cares about us at a moral level. We had relations with Poles and the French, but the former was only when they were weak, and the latter still hated us but just had official relations.
We have the saying "The only friend of a Turk is another Turk", and its true really. The Germans wanted our empire gone in WWI, but we still allied with them. Not because we wanted them, but because our relations were at least less shit than with the Russians who wanted our fucking capital. The only reason we even existed for so long is because we were too powerful in the early-mid stages and held strategic land in the latter times.
Btw, I'm not saying any of this in a "pity us, will you?" kinda way, or at least I don't mean to. Sorry for the long post, I'm tired and bored and have nothing better to do at the moment than to be an armchair historian on a Vietnamese puppet-making forum
Iran is having a shit time, but they have all the potential there to turn their society back to the pre-79
They don't have an inherent dysfunctional culture like the Arabs do
As a guy who's hung out with a few Persians in my time (I live in Kensington London, it's full of them) I can confirm this. There seems to be a friendly rivalry and mutual respect between the two.
Fear not! For the crimson flag that proudly waves in these dawns, shall never fade,
Before the last fiery hearth that is ablaze within my nation burns out.
And that, is the star of my nation, and it will forever shine;
It is mine; and solely belongs to my nation.
Frown not, I beseech you, oh thou coy crescent,
But smile upon my heroic nation! Why the anger, why the rage?
The blood we shed for you will not be worthy otherwise;
For freedom is the absolute right of my God-worshipping nation.
I have been free since the beginning and forever will be so.
What madman shall put me in chains! I defy the very idea!
I'm like the roaring flood; powerful and independent,
I'll tear apart mountains, exceed the heavens and still gush out!
several junta's attempt to take over the government, all back by the USA since they were anti-USSR, several years of 1 party ''democracy'' rule, the 1990-2000 era of being literally a 3rd world africa teir country that pushed the country into becoming super right based, also the 80's junta (again backed by US) which killed all the leftist(mostly socialists) meaned that there werent any leftist around left, and those that were around were too scared and outspoken.
Tl;dr: USA imperialism
>modernized the country into the paradise it used to be
Turkey prides itself on being a modern and developed country, which is directly thanks to Ataturk.
20 years down the current route and you will end up where your Muslim neighbors are today.
It is like you guys never learn your lesson.
Scum of the earth.
I lived in Turkey for a year and I wouldn't even wipe my ass with Turkish flag after seeing that hell hole. Really, the people there live without any sense of human decency or compassion. Any minority group is seen as dogs to them.
I met some pretty cool Iranians and Kurds tho, so it wasn't all for loss..
hahaha, what a dumb Turk. Btw, the surviving Trojans went to Italy and founded Rome. Wait, nevermind -- cut that, they were initially from Italy then founded Troy THEN went back to Italy after Troy fell and set up the founding of Rome. Caeser is literally related to Venus herself, I swear on my mums m8.
-t. Vergilius Maro
Legitimately my least favourite posters. Delusion on the same level as Israelis
>move to another country because your original country is a shithole
>wave the flag of your original country and say it's the best one in the world
>whats the point in nitpicking?
To post menes in this case.
>calling a country bad because people emigrate from there pretty stupid
The Dutch guy didn't call Turkey bad though, he was more like pointing out how aggressively the alamancis were defending Turkey in this thread yet they refuse to live there for some reason. Not that I completely agree with his point in this particular case but still.
>To post menes in this case.
It's too hot to meme or to think.
>The Dutch guy didn't call Turkey bad though, he was more like pointing out how aggressively the alamancis were defending Turkey in this thread yet they refuse to live there for some reason. Not that I completely agree with his point in this particular case but still.
That logic is still stupid, I don't think there's a problem with anything he said also most the time I just see people correcting shit about their home country.
>dislikes Fench people in general
>says fuck off pierre and something with a snail and a butt
lol'd hard at this. I like Turkish humour....in general!!!