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>tfw Pole who made /architecture/ threads is insanely butthurt about /urban/ + /architecture/ becuase he thinks we only spam glass and concrete here and we think old buildings are stupid
that's why Poles are where they are desu
During Stalin soviet architecture was more than decent t bh.
Polish one sucks imo
Stalinskiye visotky (Stalin's skyscrapers) are the best Moscow's buildings if you ask me. And they were built with some plan and i would say a taste in their surroundings.
there was Pole making /architecture/ threads some time ago he was posting a lot
now he doesn't post at all because he is butthurt about /urban/ + /architecture/
I mean that's commie architecture before Khrushchyov.
I see, but I don't see what the problem is with having both traditional and modern in one thread.
Moscow is big and have it's own area for CBD.
But in Warsaw PKiN is literally the centre of the city so they couldn't really build skyscrapers anywhere else.
I love it though. It is stylish and not too crying like barroco for example. Really close to clasicism.
I don't know I really hate that kind of attitude "muh I like architecture but fuck off with anything I don't like".
Instead of posting the stuff he likes now he doesn't post anything at all out of butthurt.
I combined /urban/ and /architecture/ because both generals had quite similiar theme, both were quite unpopular too and couldn't sustain themselves, but I guess people liking /architecture/ don't post at all now.
I've been lurking architecture threads for more than a year now, and they've never really been more successful than as of the past months. even made threads myself a couple of times, but they'd just die 30 posts in.
theres just one pole that posts all thes ethreads and its you
>I've been lurking architecture threads for more than a year now, and they've never really been more successful than as of the past months. even made threads myself a couple of times, but they'd just die 30 posts in.
yeah that's the issue even if the threads are somehow succesful they need life support kek
>tfw no one on /int/ is into East Asian architecture
It is a niche subject, so it'll always be like that. But at least they're more popular than ever, with many threads even reaching bump limit (something that literally never had happened in the history of these threads until late last year).
it's not really niche, maybe here because this board is mostly about memes (like all of 4chan obviously)
also I honestly I'm not that much into architecture itself I'm more into le ebin skylines and skyscrapers and these things have a really bad opinion here, people here like to post "comfy" european towns but the thing is it's just posting images, hardly any discussion because there isn't really anything to discuss about, quite the opposite with skyscrapers - you have new projects literally all the time, it's a very dynamic subject
Tokyo is interesting.
I guess I like it because it looks so mixed-used. It looks like you can step out of any of those buildings and have a cafe or bar very close to your building.
I think that might be Tokyo's secret.
I'm not familiar with the city myself, nor its model for planning, though, so I could be wrong
I also think this height >>53486421 looks better than this >>53486724 height of building. You're closer to the buzz of street-level.
They are pretty bad. Look very dead.
That's actually not too bad. Too residential-lookng though. Could do with some more activity.
>Tokyo is interesting.
uh, that's not Tokyo, that's Seoul
It is quite niche, at least from my personal experience. Maybe not on a superficial level, as naturally most people know architecture and even have preferences when it comes to it, but few ever really take the time to properly think about what the buildings around them really are. It's not a subject many people have a deeper understanding of, which is why I consider it more on the niche side of things.
As for East Asian architecture, I quite like it. Pagodas, temples, castles etc. are all right up my alley, but I only know some of the more famous landmarks, and mainly only in Japan. Such as pic related, the original Japanese skyscraper.
Costessey Hall, demolished in 1925 just because.
Can't blame him there, kek. I thought it was Tokyo myself for a second, but the towers in the background didn't look very Tokyo-esque.
Taverham prep school.
Rich people send their kids here.
I wonder whether the concave curve of the roof serves any purpose.
interesting to see this place on 4chan. Because my dad's workplace is there (one of those buildings in the picture) and I hangout with my mates sometimes in that place. In fact can get there in 30 minutes by subway.
Interesting variety of spire seen in Norwich's skyline.
El Viejo, Nicaragua
>get colonised by Catholics
>acquire aesthetic cities
Surely it had a reason. In Norway lots of mistakes were made during the 50's, 60's and 70's in relation to nice architecture, because of the rise of modernism. This building in Oslo for example, one of the very few of its kind in all of Norway, was demolished to make way for a brutalist high-rise. For a brutalist high-rise, it's not bad, but it does upset me that it replaced such a rare beauty. Why they'd decide to put the new building in that location always struck me as weird too, as it's in a very high-class residential area, kind of far from the business-oriented city centre.
Four Pancras Square, London
I'm seeing more of these.... sort of.... rectangular skeleton minimalist buildings lately. Some of them are alright. This one is nothing special.
>This building in Oslo for example, one of the very few of its kind in all of Norway, was demolished to make way for a brutalist high-rise. For a brutalist high-rise, it's not bad, but it does upset me that it replaced such a rare beauty.
The quicker we demolish brutalism and its cousins, the better.
Brutalists set out to offend people. The longer their buildings remain up, the longer their victory.
We should destroy them all. They were never meant to be nice. It is an insult to us to leave them up.
>destroying history of architecture
That's a very -brutal- opinion. I think some of them are nice, such as this little UFO qt 3.14. It just depends on their purpose, form, and relation to their surroundings.
Hey all, how's everyone doing today?
I don't technically live in Seoul but near commuter town of Seoul. Seoul is an interesting city. Diverse culture and atmosphere differs by districts to districts. Tons of restaurants to eat, Stores to shop. Most importantly qt boys and girls. Life's good here.
what's your opinion on korean commieblocks wew
Truly was. Even if they aren't demolished, they'll end up with the shorter end of the stick. Here's a one of its kind in Norway that is still around, but with a lot of its charm lost. You can see its interesting base was replaced by a brutalist... thing. A thing that is also mostly a parking lot on top, unlike the open street it was 100 years ago, and you can also see that the building to the right was replaced. Although that can't really be helped, as it was victim to a failed bombing by the Germans in WW2. Still, wish they'd replaced it with something that would fit more.
It was quite the huge building for its time, and incredibly dominating on Oslo's cityscape. You can slightly skimt it in the background here on this old photograph. But nowadays it's hardly visible, as it's surrounded by these beauties: https://firstname.lastname@example.org,10.7296466,3a,75y,175.29h,90.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smryxMSrOAYPZ7bPUHXq26A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
It's the best form of housing. It has function of gated community so it's safe as hell. It's has plenty of parking spaces so there's no illegal parking problems (People in western countries won't understand but since SK has high population destiny rate it's a huge problem here) It's well planned so you can get many public service benefits from it. Emergency vehicles have hard time getting into some non-apartment neighborhoods in Seoul because of narrow roads and illegally parked vehicles. Now apartments in your picture are pretty old ones but recently they are well-designed.
if you wanna learn more about our housing culture, here's a great article about it. http://reurbanist.com/2012/09/korean-suburbs-a-great-place-to-live/
>tfw I will never, ever be a master hacker hiding in a secret lair in a dense Tokyo or Hong Kong apartment building, in a room full of messy wires and computer screens, chugging Melon Soda and typing furiously on multiple PC's as I hack into Chinese banks and steal millions
Good thing about smaller buildings:
Even if one of them sucks, the ones next to it might be alright.
If you've got a big "landscraper" building 100m on a side, and it's ugly, you've got yourself a BIG ugly shit fucking up your city.
All SK and East Asian countries in general has places like this >>53496037 FYI that's not residential area but commercial. The picture I posted >>53495802 is residential area. Comparing these two is inadequate.
Hipsters. As I already said Apartment is the best form of housing that fits well in SK. Low destiny residential areas in here are extremely shiity mainly because they are formed life after the Korean war.
Reminds me a bit of this one.
Singaporean modern architecture is fucking top tier
My autism desires that cities keep a consistent architectural style or theme with new development
Here's NYC before modernism started popping up
Brutalism built on empty land is fine. It's when it intrudes on an historic part of a city where it's a problem.
They are mostly formed right after the Korean war (60s to 70s). So they're not planned. Roads are narrow, illegally parked vehicles,Electric poles and wires. no paths for pedestrians nor bikers. No private guards so easy target for robbers.
Pic related is good comparison. I know it looks *soulless* but low destiny neighborhood on the right side is filthy and mess (And yes, that's considered low destiny in South Korea)
well I don't consider it soulless I think it's much better, more effective and sufficient than some random messy almost slums
I read about it that Seoul after a war had massive problems with enormous population growth and that's why areas like this exist, they weren't planned at all
but recently you are doing good job I guess
I feel this feeling strongly ;-;
>dat OMA office in the middle of those little buildings
That's a bit jarring imo. It doesn't look "natural".
I can't find very good pictures of it, unfortunately. In Norway we call them "bazaars", not that I quite know why, but I think it's because they typically contained stores and the like inside the arched walls. There were 3 of them in Oslo, largest and finest one being the one demolished there to make way for its brutalist replacement, and the only remaining one being this one, which goes in a circle behind the cathedral.
It is very souless, all those building look too orderly, that's why people dislike commieblocks. Too much of the same is just boring. Of course the other end of the spectrum (like favelas) is just as bad, too much disorder.
Now when you have something like the houses of amsterdam (just an example), where the buildings are about the same height and width but different colors, rooftops windows and even architecture for newest houses, all looks so charming. These building are the same height, color, style and look too uninteresting.
They use vertical space efficiently in hong kong.
Seems like I was wrong. 2 of 3 are still standing. Guess I just never noticed this one, but it's quite small, and also in a really shitty part of town.
They surely look nice, it reminds me a bit of MENA architecture (except for the building on top)
"Dragon Style" architecture is pretty nifty. I wonder if it ever caught on outside of Norway?
They are some sort of architectural revivalism, so they might very well be inspired by /mena/ architecture. Maybe that could also explain why we call them bazaars.
You can't have traditional Dutch architecture in modern day Korea, it won't work and no one wants that
don't call modern block apartments "commieblocks" believe me typical soviet commieblock and typical soviet urban planning is much worse than that
>I agree, to an extent. What I mean is variety within order.
I guess they are used to it's not like the entire cities looks like this and every residental is the same, and making different designs for every single one would cost a lot
there are better and more diverse residentals in KR too but they obviously aren't affordable for average people
Close up of the Municipals building on the right side.
yeah they paint commies in Poland it make them look less shitty
but they weren't originally like that
Neon is beautiful.
The first neon sign came to Norway in 1909, and was unfortunately also one of the last of its kind here. Both back then, and to this day, this single Freia sign remains a huge landmark. Makes you wonder why more didn't come, but I guess Europe in general wasn't prepared. Well, if you look away from Amsterdam, at least.
>I'm seeing more of these.... sort of.... rectangular skeleton minimalist buildings lately.
Yes, what the fuck. Seems like every time I open the London, Manchester, Birmingham, etc, development pages on SSC it's nothing but this shit.
Pretty sure the public's already tired of glass rectangles, at least in England I see polls all the time and people repeatedly choose the traditional architecture over newer ones.
Well I don't know because it hasn't been made yet but something like Art Nouveau (no, not exactly that) needs to emerge again.
How do you run out of artistic styles to draw upon? And even if that were true why not then draw from the past as we have done for thousands of years rather than be arrogant enough to assume that what we're doing now is inherently better than them despite not at all being in accord with the public's taste and invariably lasting nowhere near as long as the classical buildings looked?
But even then there are surely still good enough creative minds out there to create the next Art Nouveau if given the chance?
Contemporary Dutch architecture is sometimes pretty good
I'm just saying that it feels like the options are limited, without looking completely absurd. Revivalist movements arose partially because of this. I'm not saying I like what is being built now any more than what was being built then, but going back in time, it was probably the logical step to take architecture into simpler times. We can only keep it up for so long, though, so who knows what might be next.
>And even if that were true why not then draw from the past as we have done for thousands of years rather than be arrogant enough to assume that what we're doing now is inherently better than them despite not at all being in accord with the public's taste
I don't even know what to say anymore desu
Poles consider this church an outstanding example of reneissance architecture...
Sad thing - this is the best Poland even have.
This one looks like some video game world
yes the one I posted underneath depicts ridiculously overrated piece of traditional architecture
can even poles design anything not looking like a barn with 2 rectangle simplistic towers?
literally whats wrong with what I said
poles wank to this and pretend its ebin
I saw probably ~50 better looking churches than this barn
I don't know. It seems more fitting to its name than our -only- example of renaissance. Worst is that much of it is part of a Gothic castle tower that was there prior to it.
Just want to thank you lads for the great pictures and general threads, especially when you post cyberpunky pictures of Tokyo and other cities. I sometimes contribute with Belgian pictures, but I rarely have enough time to be active here on a daily basis.
Again, thanks lads for keeping the literally only remaining part of /int/ that isn't total autistic shit alive.
whats your opinion on Thai architecture lads
Pretty good. All of Southeast Asia has some good traditional architecture in general.
wat de fug X-DDD
but anyway they could make this polish church more sophisticated and don't base it on some basic fucking shapes because basic fucking shapes looks shit in traditional architecture
also all the fucking old churches in poland look the same they all are out of red brick
pic related some other thing considered top tier polish architecture, rate
>Pretty good. All of Southeast Asia has some good traditional architecture in general.
and some FUCKING BAD buddha monuments and I dont even post a really bad one
At least it's in style with the actual medieval building in the back here, but still. I don't really mind it, but it's pretty much the only thing the Danes bothered to build here during the renaissance.
As for your building, it looks alright, but it's as if it's not meant to have that colour. White and yellow is something I'd expect on traditional Spanish houses, not a large baroque palace.
How 1 country can produce top tier wonders like pic related
and this fucking shit >>53504635
>As for your building, it looks alright, but it's as if it's not meant to have that colour. White and yellow is something I'd expect on traditional Spanish houses, not a large baroque palace.
I don't really fucking find anything fascinating in Polish traditional architecture. It's just European average, nothing really remarkable.
Gotta look to Cambodia for the real good Buddha stuff.
The original Asian skyline.
At least one of them.