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Why doesn't Visegrad countries and Ex-yugoslavian countries unite in counterweight to Russia and EU-NATO?
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Because none of them could keep their qualaty of living without EU, NATO or Russia
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>unite
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>>53370105
I don't think it can't get much worse.
I didn't had in mind some union with closed borders.
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>>53370105
you wont keep your money for long
being rich and unable to defend itself is worst thing that can happend to country
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>>53369972
V4+Croatia and Slovenia - OK, but nothing more, Orthodox nations are incompatible with us and the Baltics are too small and have too many Russians
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>>53369972
Cause we are poor as fug.

>>53370105
Gib money pls
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>>53369972
Because leeching off the West is more profitable.
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>>53371758
It's all going to shit anyway.
We better bail while we still can.
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>>53369972
Because they're all already NATO's lapdogs. Minus serbia which is Russia's
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>>53371907
I'm going to cite Orban here, because I don't know if Fico said something like that too.

We are members of these institutions, not their hostages.
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>>53371844
I have a brilliant plan how to defend ourselves against Russia.

1. Borrow money from Western countries
2. Buy weapons, tanks, helos, what have you
3. Invade and take over Germany.
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Why don't they just become British Overseas Territories?
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>uniting with S*rbs
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>>53372174
>sorbs
yes, after we liberate them from germany :^)
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>>53371226
this 2bh
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>>53372106
or better yet
>Grant USA part time use of a small civilian/military airport as a transit base for the middle east
>Grant the rights to build an anti-missile base in bumfuck rural oltenia

Suddenly Romania most valued US partner ,safety paramount ,muh freedom fighters anti-terror etc etc turn blind eye to deportation of muslims under persona non grata and building of concentration camps for gipsyes in Constanta
also black sites were run under the auspices of the Securitate+CIA as a joint project,so there's that leverage if one were to leak some torture+murder reports of "terrorists"
And then suddenly, the US wants our corn,it's their main crop http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-15/romanian-corn-imports-to-u-s-surge-as-shoppers-demand-organic
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>>53369972
Why counterweight Russia? You are in the process of making your states little copies of present day Russia, especially Hungary and Poland.
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>>53371226
>>53373680
OVO
V
O
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Putting aside that they all despise each other, where will they get their wealth? Cleaning toilets only gets you so far in life.
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>>53371226
>Croatia and Slovenia
Take just Croatia or just Slovenia.
That's how you prevent disaster
Slovenia and croatian politics don't really get together
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>>53374007
oh come on, its not that bad
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DREAM BIG
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>>53373910
>using the Latin verb for 'I applaud' instead of the good old Slavic demonstrative pronoun 'to'

Why are Balkan people so cultured and advanced?
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>>53374159
>including 3rd world shitholes with russians n sheit
how about no
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>>53374159
>Romania
>Moldavia
>Russian vassal
>balts
>Albania
I rather die
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>>53374083
Yep its not that bad.
It even worse.
Get your shit together Croatia
You gained a lot of hate in last years
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People really don't get it here because they are nationalistic as fuck, but most people want their countries to learn from the west to achieve their success,
This trend can only hope to reverse if /pol/ visions of migrants making western Europe 3rd world.
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>>53374280
What happened?
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>>53374159
>serbia
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>>53374291
>but most people
In Bulgaria**
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>>53374159
>eventually unite with Russia
>argue for centuries who conquered who
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>>53374280
>>53374306
nothing, he is overreacting.
we have one territory dispute and some political frauds, but people dont hate eachother and that what matters.
I couldn't find one Croat who hates Slovenes if I wanted.. and I really hope that its the same with you
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>>53369972
why our flag look like French European Union?
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>>53372139

I thought you wanted to kick out poles, not import even more of them.
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>>53374306
The only thing Croatians didn't try to still is triglav
Croatian foreing policy is most hated here.
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>>53374362
You're not even eastern.
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>>53374401
>I thought you wanted to kick out poles
>UKIP represents mainstream UK public opinion
You're not very smart are you?
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>>53370105
>Because none of them could keep their qualaty of living without EU, NATO or Russia

>Russia
>quality of life
>>53369972
There is nothing to counterweight, they're both weak and shit.
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>>53374472
>UKIP represents mainstream UK public opinion
but that's what /int/ told me
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>>53374472

Blame the local media and /pol/. I'm just a regular basement dweller with limited knowledge of the outside world.
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>>53374384
>I couldn't find one Croat
Well I did.
Many of them.
It's not about that sea territory.
It's more about trying to steal our national symbols such as: Carniola bee, Lipicanec and Kranjska klobasa.
I could go on and on
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>>53370164
Why not? It worked before. I'll be your new Tito.

All hail President for Life Drew!
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>>53374455
Than what we are?
Nordic?
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>>53371226
Sounds nice
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>>53374599
Slovene.
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>>53374509
>>53374536
It's not hard to google the voteshare of our most recent election
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>>53374551
>>53374450
And you stole the kranjska from Austrians. There was a "brand" court or something and we backed down. You speak like we do monthly or annual oppression on Slovenes

>he found hatred against Slovenes in Croatia
This is an outright lie, a cheeky one, or he went God knows where, among some Shaqiris who think they're Croats. This is literally Slovene propaganda on /int/, I can't believe they're ready to stoop this low as to present us as hating Slovenes
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When will Italy gib back Trst? That coastline hurts my autism.
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>>53374551
Not that other guy, but what the fuck are you talking about?
I have never in my life heard of Carniola bees or Lipicanec, and afaik Austria is trying to steal your Kranjska klobasa, not us.
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Yeah, because that worked very well in the past
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>>53374676
Didn't ukip get only 2 seats?
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>>53374841
One seat. They had two before the election, and lost one of them. It was hilarious. See if you can find UKIP's only seat on this map
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I dont like unions
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>>53374764
Should I post all news about Slovenian being stabed in split/istra just because of being Slovenian?

Don't pretend that there is such a thing as slovenia croatian friendship, most of people here dislike or hate Croatia.
We can't belive people lime you got beach and nature like that
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>>53369972
I support leading Polish intellectuals from interwar period and the project Intermarium
we would be a superpower
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>>53374551
>>53374764
>The Carniolan sausage (Slovene: kranjska klobasa; Australian English: Kransky, German: Krainer Wurst, Italian dialect of Trieste: luganighe de Cragno) is a Slovenian sausage most similar to what is known as kielbasa or Polish sausage in North America.
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>>53374831
Well we heard about it.
Not joking you try to steal Carniola bee and renamed it.
Same goes for Lipicanec.
Those are only major things.
Almost every day news are like: Croats claim xyz from Slovenia>>53374840
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>>53375047
lmao mate, I couldn't really give a shit about Slovenia, or its rightful possesions even if I tried.
Which probably means you slovenes are exaggarating all the news to spread hate about Croats.
What about your politicians continuously defacing our country and calling it an example of failure?
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>>53375047

Croats claim xyz from everybody, thats nothing new
Nation without any dignity or shame
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>>53374927
>people here
People might be doing that there, but not HERE

>Should I post all news about Slovenian being stabed in split/istra just because of being Slovenian?
Please do
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>>53375155
Cmon, you get 97% of Yugoslav seashore, and then you will not let Slovenia have a fucking outlet to the international waters/sea. Thats ridiculous.
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>>53375164
>>53375047
Lako se budalama dogovoriti
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>>53375164
Oh you're the one to speak
KOSOVO JE SRBIJA
SLAVONIJA JE SRBIJA
DALMACIJA JE SRBIJA
RUSIJA JE SRBIJA
SRBIJA DO TOKIJA
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>>53375155
>calling it an example of failure?
Well it's true.
Our politicians also said they try to be Politically correct and diplomatic toward Croatia but that just can't get on now.
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>>53375242
Italians should give Slovenia back their land and sea, not us. We didn't steal Slovenia's territory, we did not steal Slovenia's sea

It's ITALY and they're taking it out on us
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Yeah ok, we can only include either Slovenia or Croatia if we don't want balkanar shitstorms.
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>>53375295
>>53375284
Triggered
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>>53375295
>you
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>>53375284
>>53375295
Oh are you offended?
You really disapproved everything now.
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>>53375242
Not my fault lad, I'm not the person that decides these things. As a citizen, and not a politician, of croatia, I don't want to promote any hate against slovenes, but in the end, it's their fault in the first place.
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>>53374159

eventualy that but first this >>53373910

the thing is such a union would wield huge amounts of geo-political influence, not by actualy being rich or powerful, but simply because of its geographical positions, demographics and strategic importance, united they would represent a blok that could impose and demand whatever, and alow itself to aply its own internal and foreign policy without getting ordered around by fucking cucks like germany and belgium

a purposeful and conscious radicalisation and organisation of the population, in the sense of 'we know what were doing but were doing it any way', regardles weather in left or right direction(or maybe its 2016 and we can invent a direction of our own), would significantly add to this

then, eventualy this >>53374159

and seriously this is the only hope both europe and our respective populations actualy hawe left
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>>53369972
I'd rather we become part of Russian Federatiom
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>>53375332
>We didn't steal Slovenia's territory, we did not steal Slovenia's sea
Istra?
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>>53375332
the only reason Croatia has a sea its because Serbs fought and won in WW1, and decided to include our "brothers" Croatians on the winning, Entente, side.

Otherwise Dalmatia would be Italian, and Zagreb and Slavonia would be German/Hungarian.

>Serbia refusing the treaty of London is the worst mistake of Serbian history. All for our "brothers"
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>>53375350
>>53375424
We should spend all those new American rockets shelling Belgrade and Laibach, proceeding to make a giant alliance with Montenegrins

They are our only friends
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>>53375490
Istria was never slovene, what the fuck man.
It was more italian than it will ever be slovene.
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>>53375490
>reminder that even the most hardcore Serbian nationalists always supported United Slovene lands
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>>53375490
>istria
It was not ours, it was not yours
and it had overwhelming Croatian population, some 40%+ were Croats, Slovenes were even present than fucking Italians
fucking worse than Serbs, it has 10% of Slovenes and it's automatically Slovenia
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>>53375425
>it's their fault in the first place.
And that is how croati solves problems.
It's not problem of us both, but just our.
Why does croats act like young teens?
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>>53375332

slovenia got part of istra

that part of istra was always a part of istra and never a part of slovenia, ever, maybe back in the day of carantania but probably not even then

italians never took anything from slovenia, in fact austrians took from italias and then slovenians got part of istra

istra should be united and autonomus from trieste to rjeka
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>>53375573
Cant wait to have a border with Slovenia around lake Balaton
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>>53375494
Well that's your fucking problem then, you had the opportunity, you didn't take it, now you're crying 100 years later how "you should have"
Give me a break.
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>>53375494
>serbia signing a military deal, in secrecy, in 1915, only to have its population wiped out by bullets and typhus a year later, suffering a large defeat
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>>53375534
Great histroy m8!
>>53375586
What about north East istra which was rightfully Carniolian?
There was mayority of slovene population thou
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>>53375691
Yeah, because we capitulated. ... oh wait.
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>>53375295
actually, Slavonia, Dalmatia was considered Serbian not because of some Serbian megalomania but because Croats were considered the same as Serbs, just different tribes of one Yugoslav nation.

And then we saw in WW2 how you treat Serbs. Thats why Serbian nationalists argued for including politically parts of Bosnia and Croatia in Serbia, to make sure genocide doesnt repeat itself.
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>>53375717
I dojn't care about history.
We should stop dwelling on the past and focus on the future, otherwise we're all doomed.
>nuh uh, we're not doomed, only you croats are doomed because muh slovenia muh eu muh CIVILIZATION
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Well argue now as much as you want is useless.
Here is great evidence of Slovenian-croatian friendship.
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>>53374927
>Should I post all news about Slovenian being stabed in split/istra just because of being Slovenian?
Yes, please.

Banter aside, I thought Slovenes and Croats were bros. They sure are in the American diaspora.
>inside a Slovenian bar near where I live
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>yugos
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>>53375691
fuck you. unlike Slovenes, you were always happy to be German or Hungarian slaves. Enjoy your "independence" now.
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I think this thread answers why such a state can't exist quite nicely.
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>create a thread about v4 working with balkans
>thread infested with balkan niggers shitting on each other
At least you know why it wont work
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>>53375779
Genocide wouldn't have repeated itself, because it was the 20th century. We could have lived relatively in peace, but we could not because you "were paranoid" we were going to slaughter you?
Oluja only happened because you asked for it. If Serbs never proclaimed Krajina, you might just have had some special privileges in this country. But now it's too late of course.
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>>53375812

kaj?
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>>53375896

čuj, a, ajmo rađe ne?
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>>53375872
It seems to be one or two edgy Slovenes being shitty, with a Serb poking the beehive for lulz.
As a Sloveniaboo, this makes me sad.
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>>53375840
Even now. They are only one happy while being slaves to West.
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>>53375840
This is coming LITERALLY from a country of 7 million people. Such a beautiful country, with many hydropotential, great industrial potential ad mineral wealth, that is almost ON PAR with Bosnia and Herzegovina and Macedonia, as far as macroeconomic indicators go
Let's NOT mention Albania is catching up faster than projected

No, my friend, YOU should enjoy your independence

>>53375801
Slovensko ratno huškanje. Hrvati ne žele ništa drugo no prijateljstvo i ljubav sa Slovenijom
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This thread explained itself why such a union couldn't exist.
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>>53375753
>be defeated
>even Bulgarians step on your territory to genocide your people
>BULGARIANS
>wait for the French to pick you up and carry you on their wings to victory
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>>53375968
>They try to steal Slovenian national symbols
>slovenes pls stop being edgy

Do I need to say why is USA loved here?
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>>53376038
>Slovensko ratno huškanje. Hrvati ne žele ništa drugo no prijateljstvo i ljubav sa Slovenijom
Pokazali ste to velikokrat.
Pokazali ste to tudi v temu threadu.
Ni razloga da nebi verjel temu.
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Lads look what I can do:
SLOVAKIA GIB BACK CLAY
CZECHIA ZAOLZIE NASZE
HUNGARY GIB REPARATIONS FOR A-H
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>>53375807

individualy yes, colectively we all hate each other, all of us, croat serb slovene bosnian, in small groups and one on one were like best bros, other than accent you cant tell the difference, collectively we cant get along unless we have some massive alpha god-emperor dude like tito to keep us together in peace
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>>53376038
>implaying Croatia has near as much geographical potential as Serbia.

You will see soon how Serbia will rise
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>>53375779
And Serbs used it to chimp around Croatia in the late 19th century, orchestrated from Belgrad-centrala with your Garašanin tier propaganda. Serbs didn't allow Croatian local officials into cities or neighbourhood populated BY them ON the Croatian soil, flags were torn down, political sabotage in Slavonia and Dalmatia, not appearing in the parliament to hinder legislation, chimping out through the education system, wanting even more autonomy in regards to education and religious matters and using Austrians against us, crying "serbophobia" for pro-Croatian articles in newspapers and making Austrians censor it

No, Croats just one day decided to take all Serbs to concentration camp, because we didn't feel like having fun anymore
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>>53376271
t. Serb who fled his "country"
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>>53376038
you talk a lot of shit for someone whose economy is roughly the same size as slovenia, which has half of your population. unlike you, slovenia actually manufactures stuff. croatia literally only has tourism.
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>>53375807
Diaspora is just retarded
Croatian and Slovenian
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>>53376319
We had a minor hindrance called "krajišnici", haltering our economic progress
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>>53376280
>t. civilized, european Croat who has absolutely nothing do with filthy Balkans, does not speak the same language, and absolutely is not Serb, 100% germanic
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>>53376310
Nah.
But fact is that Serbia has great potential, mostly because of natural resources.
If you reject that you are just ignorant
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>>53376453
and we had un sactions and the bombing campaign in 1999. takes a while to recover.
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>>53376455
2bh serbian version of s-c sounds different than croat one
t. i've been in both countries multiple times
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>>53376096
>>53376393
The average Slovene int has better English and training skills than what you're demonstrating. I'm going to take that as an indication of your overall relative intelligence and thoughtfulness.
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>>53376646
*on int
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>>53369972
Even united, they are too small, too poor and too unimportant
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FUCKIN CROATIANS GIB BACK BARANJA
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>>53376455
We should do it enough time until we pacify you
First we have to genocide you to stop the chimping, now we have to clear our mutual language, to save it from your angloturkish loanwords
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>>53376646
Ok. If that makes you feel good. Sorry for my english thou. I am more technical type of guy.
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>>53376573
Sure, and southern Serbia sounds different from Belgrade, just as Dalmatian islands sound different from Slavonia.
Not every region is as homogenous with ethnicity and language as Poland.

Buttblasted Croats like to pretend like Croatian is a completely different language.
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>>53376646
Off-topic: do you use telegram app?
We should create Slovenian group!
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>>53376813
>Not every region is as homogenous with ethnicity and language as Poland.
Well we have Silesian and Kashubian
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V4+Croatia and Slovenia+Austria

The latter is important.
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>>53376880
>telegram app
I don't know what that is. I'm old.
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>panslavism
>muhclayposting
>muhheritageposting
this thread reeks of shit
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>>53376813
>Slovenian
>kajkavian
Hmmm
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>>53376913
>Slovenia+Austria
Sounds like the world's prettiest country 2bh. Any way we can get Switzerland in on that?
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>>53376979
no
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>>53376973
i know slovene has like 50 dialects
i would guess they re all "kajkavian" in the sense of using "kaj" for what
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>>53376095
>b-bbut
>Bulgaria stronk
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>>53377144
Ljubljana masterrace kvakavian
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>>53376972
What pan-Slavism, my friend?
The only way forward is Austroslavism, friend
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>>53377225
oh, I like your map.
I just saw some panslavistic autism map somewhere in this thread
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>>53377225
I kinda like this
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>>53377144
>>53377206
Kva is masterrace
We could be kvakavian
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>>53377370
>>53377345
Time to abandon this Frankenstein and form our own European Union, the DU - Danubian Union
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>>53377457
I want Poland too tho
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>>53376095
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vardar_Offensive
btw many decent Croats fought on the side of Serbia.
And the best A-H commander was a Serb lel

>>53377190
>Tataria
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>>53369972

zakaj ste morali sjebat kaj je mogo bit sasvim dobar tred, zakaj? kaj se nemremo nadjebavat na ex-yu i balk, kaj nam tam nije dosta?
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>>53377534
>le olde 'backstabbers' discourse
runs in the family :^)
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>>53377534
The best A-H commander was born a Serb but integrated into the Croatian society, adopted Croatian identity and always identified as a Croat*

>>53377525
No Poland. Too big, too threatening for our Danubian relevance. Here you have six worldly irrelevant economies, one larger than the other, nothing in trillions...
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>>53377754
yes, he was so Croatian that his entire family was later massacred in WW2, by Croat Ustaše.
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>>53378200 (Checked)
yeah, nationals never kill each other, it's impossible!
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>>53377754
Don't resist it, Black Poland
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>>53375451
nothing new
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>>53377628

Meh, this thread and many like it only show why we (everyone on the Balkans) will never amount to anything.

Every thread is basically arguing who is less retarded. Well NEWSFLASH, we are all retarded as fuck.

Good day all.
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>>53377628
>kajkavac
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a jebem vam majku
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>>53378675
reci kaj il krepaj
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>>53378705
>a jebem vam majku
edo majka jesi to ti?
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>>53377144
>i would guess they re all "kajkavian" in the sense of using "kaj" for what

There are several regional variants of our interrogative, namely kaj, kej, ka, ki, ke, kva and kwa.
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>>53378933
>kva and kwa.
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>>53378933
>kwa

Are african-slovenians using this?
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>>53379038
Idrja
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>>53379758
kva kva?
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>kaj
literally silesian tier
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hello guise, is this the provisional /slo/ general? :D:D:D:D:D
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>>53379889
>Haplotypes found in Slovenia, which are very rare in the world, are often found in Poland, especially in the city of Wroclaw.
gib back silesia
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>>53379993
So Silesia is white Slovenia? Now I know why Croats don't like you.
t. White Croat
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>>53380125
Are you sure you're not a white serb?
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Posting some masterpieces of idiomatic Slovene:

http://razvezanijezik.org/?page=ali+kakorkoli+%C5%BEe+pa%C4%8D

http://razvezanijezik.org/?page=klelele

http://razvezanijezik.org/?page=sem+pa+ke+pa+gor+pa+dol

http://razvezanijezik.org/?page=je%C5%BEe%C5%A1na
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>>53380298
east germans are white serbs
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>>53379904
M8 Slovenian thread when?
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>>53381742
zdej ne, k grem vn, pol bo pa že mrtvo, nasledni vikend :^)
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>Slovenes complaining about sausages
>Serbs whining about Ustaše since forever
We should just move back to White Croatia.
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>>53369972
>Ex-yugoslavian countries unite
>with serbia aka mini russia
no thanks
did it twice and both times it sucked
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>>53371226
I'd upboat this if it was real.
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>>53384266
I don't mind Croats, but I prefer Germany to Poland and Hungary
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>>53387318
cuck
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>>53369972
I'd like a slav union, but the schism religion and nationalism made is too much to handle. I can relate to other slavs on mentality level, but I think asking more than that is unrealistic.
It would have been possible if people weren't limited, stupid, self-absorbed and got rid of "muh tribe" way of thinking, which we did suppress for around 50 years in yugoslavia. I don't see that happening again. You have to reprogramme individual people for that and make them re-think their role in the society. The west cucked us too much for that to be possible on a larger scale.
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>Slovaks and Poles dislike you simply because you are Orthodox
wow...
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>>53371226
>Orthodox nations are incompatible with us

We should make our own state church. Prefferably gnostic in nature, Serbs in particular would find hateful demiurge easy to accept.
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>>53391691
I'd really like to see paganism revival, but most of our neo-pagans are autists and retards. I'm more for the no religion at all option.
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>>53391509
I don't think so. You are just to small for them to remember you.
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Dejansko slovenc na 4chanu.. iskou sm po international bordu zastavco in jo končn našu.. hit me up: [email protected]
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We all pretty much hate each other.
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>>53395945
No we don't.
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