Hey /int/ Can someone explain fascism to me? It seems the definition

>>53310457
Something about ultranationalism and government rule, i guess

It's like social democracy except without democracy and everything is done for the sake of The Nation™.

>Fascism /ˈfæʃJzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

It's not a strict ideology

no government would want to be called "fascist"

>>53310480
Sounds too vague.

>>53310488
I'm assuming the ™ is a slight nod to the corporate power within a fascist society? Does that mean that economically speaking a libertarian community is the same as a fascist one? Free market and all that jazz?

>>53310516
So people are really just using the word fascist as an insult like people using the word "fogie"

>>53310568
That's because it is vague.

Mussolini's Fascism is very different from NatSoc.

>>53310596
That's fucking stupid. How can people use such an umbrella term to attack someone.

>>53310457
ben we drinkin tonight?

>>53310568
Libertarian capitalism would be a bit different. They at least oppose corporatism and especially the privatized profit/socialized risk that happens with public/state enterprises in fascist countries.

>>53310650
Yeah man, send me a text.

>>53310457
Facism is just used to describe "thing I don't like" nowadays.

>>53310664
Woah, wait a minute. I thought libertarian capitalism was extremely far-right in regards to the economy.

The whole basis of a libertarian system is the removal of government influence in business. Isn't their whole motto "the free-market will fix it"?

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>>53310568
>So people are really just using the word fascist as an insult like people using the word "fogie"

Libtards do, because they don't have any real arguments.

>>53310728
are russians libtards? because their political discourse is pretty much based on everyone being fascist...

>>53310568
>corporate power
What are you on about?

the nazis relentlessly shitted on the USA for bending over to jew capitalism and consumer culture.

[spoiler] they were right [yes i know spoilers don't work on this board]

>>53310684
you in Palmy?

>>53310712
This. Lots of people call Trump a fascist, which is beyond retarded.

>>53310756
No, they're fascists in denial themselves.

>>53310728
>if you dont support fascism you are an evil liberal
Enough

>>53310728
Damn, fascism sounds pretty good.

>>53310797
Nah, we're in Welly.

>>53310822
you are an enemy of freedom

>>53310822
Well yeah, but you know, the narrative being dem ebil nazzzis and fasssists because of the gorillions'n'shieeet BS.

>>53310648
>How can people use such an umbrella term
Why do people love rhetorical questions so much they go out of their way to start the conversation with a genuine seeming question just to then ask a rhetorical one which at that point ( since it's following a genuine one) sounds like a retarded serious question?

>>53310855
destroying the "outsiders" is an integral part of fascism

>>53310857
I like you

>>53310843
You think you're free? You think democracy equals freedom? You disobey laws? Etc... Facsism isn't any less free than modern western parliamentary democracy.

>>53310907
i meant economic freedom

>>53310857
It's because I'm an Australian shitposter.

>>53310882
Well yeah, if they're no good for the society.

>>53310907
>Facsism isn't any less free than modern western parliamentary democracy.
btw, if you seriously believe this then we have nothing further to discuss because you are retarded.

>>53310920
Are you, though? Maybe you're just genuninely curious

>>53310933
...the problem being, it's not the society that gets to decide that, it's the propaganda department of the regime.

>>53310917
Again, if it's no good for the society. There are many economical restrictions in our societies too.

>>53310936
K, bye.

>>53310961
bye

>>53310947
I'm genuinely curious about fascism, my
russkiy tovarishch

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>>53310993
in the end, it always gets you killed. remember that

>>53310648
Politics IS umbrella terms. Mussolini's fascism is very different from Hitler's fascism. Lenin's socialism is very different from Mao's socialism. John Stuart Mill's liberalism is very different from John Locke's liberalism. Edmund Burke's conservatism is very different from Paul Wolfowitz's conservatism. etc etc

>>53310907
Read Sven Hassel's legion of the damned.

>>53310728
is there any precedent/written document of the whole "you can leave a fascist country but not a communist one"

Because Hitler killed off some of the very same people who were with him in the Beer Hall Putsch. So imagine the many others who wouldn't align with fascism at all.

Yes I know Hitler =/= fascism in general, but was there any example of a fascist party without skeletons in the closet so to speak? Would Oswald Mosley possibly gain seats in parliament the traditional way had the war not started?

>>53310457
actual fascism is just italian turbonationalism

does not fit well in other countries