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If war broke out today who would win? The UK or France? Everyone

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If war broke out today who would win? The UK or France? Everyone else stays neutral.
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We can't invade them and...if they try, we would just remove them
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Which one do you cum on
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>>53287246
right one can outright go fuck itself
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>Union Jack
>"England"

Will Irishmen, Scots and Welshies ever recover from this
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>>53287246

right

>people literally do not think dark hair with light eyes is the true master race
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>>53287444
this 2bh
The darker the hair and the lighter the eyes the better

>>53287411
Hopefully never
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>>53287162
I'd say both outnuke each others, but, well...
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>>53287162
europe
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>>53287313
why do you hate your women
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France.
The UK already welcomes the big french cock with open mouths linguistically and culturally so it's not too much of a hassle.
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The UK obviously. It doesn't really matter if the French military is marginally stronger, the British spirit cannot be broken, while the French spirit is broken on a weekly basis tBh.
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>>53287162

Nobody, since there is the channel between.
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>>53287527
But Europe would be the battlefield
(sorry Belgium)
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>>53287162
It would be a little meme war, no one would even notice
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france desu
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>>53287736
>meme wars
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>>53287736
Blyad pls, you'd take SPM and Aussies would take NC/Polynesia
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paki vs nigas
dunno
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France surrenders after they realise their GDP is smaller
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>>53287162
>implying that the boundless love that we have for each other could ever fade away
>implying that either one of us could survive losing the other one
What's the point of being french if I can't be smug to british tourists?
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>>53287736
>Canada
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>>53288006

woah, both of 2.5t

that sure is a lot anon
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>>53287444
10/10

too bad no girl in britain looks like that
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>>53287162
>If war broke out today who would win? The UK or France?
>534 replies and 286 images omitted. Click here to view.
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>>53287162
Will France HAVE to fight or can they still surrender?
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>>53288102
$3 trillion soon
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We would win. I know this because I'm British
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>>53288006
Meh
Even when our budget is smaller, our army is better
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at least compare us to someone that would put up a fight
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>>53288201
When our based Rafales will bomb the shit out of you, will you still make jokes about WW2?
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>unironically canibalizing older yet perfectly functionnal typhoons to cut the maintenance costs

Yeah, good luck with that one Anglos
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doesn't france have better planes and better trained pilots? that's really the difference maker
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>>53288279
Yea, the same
We want to fight real men, and not island-jews who win wars because they pay other countries to fight for them
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>>53288357
Yes
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>>53287246

French girl, hands down
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need to find a better job asap
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>>53288357
>our based Rafales

what, all five of them? start with tower hamlets please
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>>53288399

Just drop soldiers in the UK and watch the population fight them with butter knives
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>>53288415
Tactics is tactics, frog
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>>53287162
That war would never end, it's been fought for thousands of years and we're both still standing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUJX9hDjhaE#t=37s
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>>53288399
>better planes
Depends on what you need to do. They have more, though.

>better trained pilots
Probably, yes.
Navy pilots are even trained in the US.
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must be a strange mix of both pride and sorrow to see your children go off to work.

on the one hand you're glad they're getting on in life but at the same time you hoped they would have a better life than you
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we are all slaves regardless of colour
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>>53288700
sartre?
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France, our military has been cut to nothing
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>>53288151
>implying british girls aren't fitter than their american counterparts 99.9% of the time.
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we are all serfs under state nationalism
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>>53288617
The comic was OK, but the video is cringy as fuck, especially the ones with the voiceovers
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>>53288391
>unironically canibalizing older yet perfectly functionnal typhoons to cut the maintenance costs
???

We're not doing that. We are bringing 2 extra Typhoon squadrons into service, the older ones. Pic related. We have 5 squadrons right now, it will be 7 soon.
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>>53288617
>Normans
>france
XXDDDD
DDDDX
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>>53288818
muh 2025. what about right now pham?

also isn't french/british military doctrine basically keeping up with the joneses these days? i.e. being as strong as each other. i thought we were *very* evenly matched.
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They have been doing it for almost a thousand years, if they started again it would just be another thousand.

>>53288044
>Boliva
>Inland Waterway

>>53288617
The comic is a good comic but that voiceover was gay as shit.
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>>53288905
The new Typhoon squadrons are coming before 2025.

Maybe read the post I replied to. The Pole said we were cannibalising perfectly functional Typhoons for parts. That's a lie, we're actually bringing the old ones into service.
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>>53288905
Forgot to reply to this

>also isn't french/british military doctrine basically keeping up with the joneses these days? i.e. being as strong as each other. i thought we were *very* evenly matched.
No. We don't aim to be as strong as France. They are probably our closest ally, but we have different priorities to the French. We are strong in different areas.
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>>53288770
>fitter
>skinny fat ain't fit Jack
But fat fat is still fat I hate people myself pans
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http://strawpoll.me/6483930
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official euro war song for this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4iBBfEHNaE
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>>53287246
Both
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who makes a better mujaheddin, pakis or algerians?

they are the key to all of this
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We share a military, how the fuck would war even work?
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>>53288770
lmao

lmao

lmfao
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>>53288836
Eh? The comic had Normans and France as related but separate.
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>>53289404
Well, one of them put up a revolution, the others are still getting butfucked everyday by American drones.
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>>53289442
>We share a military
Erm what
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>>53289529
Well military resources at any rate. Planes and ships and whatnot.
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>>53287162
maybe us but the war would destroy us so who cares? france is alright. pakis out.
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>>53289566
>pakis out.
Wise words my friend
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>>53289529
There's so much agreements between both governements that they can barely go to war without eachother now.
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>>53287162
>two veto-wielding members of the UN Security Council going to war with one another

All this would do is set a precedent for the other three nuking the shit out of one another. I'd like to believe our leaders have more sense than that.
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>>53289524
They need more drone butt Fucking to
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History has shown that it only takes two weeks to invade france and take control, while bombing the shit out of the UK just pisses them off.
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>>53289565
>>53289600
No, you're both wrong. Both militaries are integrated such that they CAN work together seamlessly, but they obviously retain a capability operate independently.

Also please name these planes and ships we share with France? NATO has a few ISTAR and transport aircraft that are shared among the alliance, I can't think of anything else. If the UK uses some RAF C-17s to transport French equipment to Africa, which it did, that's not a shared asset. It's a British asset being used to help an ally.
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>>53287162
whities will lose because mudslime will be raping and pillaging both countries while whities are dying out fighting a pointless war against each other.
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>>53287637
You're just saying that because you've got 50 relatives there
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>>53289566
This
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>>53289878
Yeah well French forces projection is either through you or some Ukrainian contractors, so in case of anything serious you'll be in charge of the logistics.
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>>53289700
That literally only happened one time. And everyone else was getting their shit kicked in by the Nazis, too. The only thing that really saved the UK was exceptional leadership and being an island.
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>>53290010
Yeah a huge moat around us really helps
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>>53289700
Idiot
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>>53289966
They can still project, it's just very limited. The thing is they're mostly concerned with Africa and some of the Middle-East. So they don't need first rate force projection. But the UK has obligations as far as the South Atlantic and the Far East

>>53290010
Japan is an island, did that save them?

What being an island does, is it allows the guys who beat your navy to attack you from ANY direction. Don't pretend water is a magical forcefield, that's fucking dumb.

The only thing that has protected the UK from invasion is the Royal Navy, and later the RAF
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Would unleashing the Calais migrants onto Britain be constitutive of a war crime?
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Britain Caliphate would won a war against Republique Islamique de France
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pic your waifu out of amy poehler and tiny fey


amy for me thank you :3
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>>53290294
Indeed, there faith is much stronger and they respect shariah law way better.

To many people call themselves muslims in France but drink alcohol and live decadent lives.
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>>53290333
Tina for me.
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>>53289933

gypsies bringing the bants
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>>53290261
>Biological warfare (BW)—also known as germ warfare—is the use of biological toxins or infectious agents such as bacteria, viruses and fungi

Depends how you classify the migrants :^)
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>>53290010
France was invaded by Germany twice in the same way. The second time was just quicker, because Germany had done it before. Logic would dictate that the inevitable 3rd time that france gets invaded through Belgium would take less than 2 weeks.
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nobody would win because since britains navy is superior france wouldnt risk a land invasion however brits are to scared to leave their shitty islands so it would end in a draw
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>>53290252
>Japan is an island, did that save them?

in defense of the slants you never had to go up against someone like america
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>>53290155>>53290155
For not getting invaded in 2 weeks time? I guess if that makes me an idiot, france is full of geniuses.
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>>53290252
Well yeah, as you say, England also had the best navy in Europe. And Japan probably wouldn't have managed as well as it did if it were attached to the mainland.

Fact is, if Britain were part of mainland Europe, it wouldn't have done any better than France.
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>>53290527
>Hundred Year's War
>Napoleonic Wars
>World War I and II
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>England
>not bringing allies
>implying the eternal anglo wouldn't turn the whole world against us for the nth time
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>>53290688
>Napoleonic wars
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>>53290752
that's why they're known as "coalition-man"
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>>53290688
>Everyone else stays neutral.

what part of this dont you understand ? god even we technicaly participated in the hundred years war
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Not being biased but the UK has a better trained military and more advanced equipment. France are only good at surrendering.
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>>53289248
>>53289488

t. have never left the country.
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>>53290534
>in defense of the slants you never had to go up against someone like america
Well yes, we have gone up against America. But do you understand my point? Islands have been invaded quite often throughout history. As soon as you lose the naval war, it is over.

>>53290608
>England also had the best navy in Europe
>Fact is, if Britain were part of mainland Europe, it wouldn't have done any better than France.

This logic is fucking warped.

Look, we have the best navy in Europe BECAUSE we are a bloody island. If our navy isn't the best, it's game over. Because we have regularly had to fight multiple opponents in the sea, by ourselves. In WW2 it was Germans and Italians for two years, then the Japanese as well, until the US navy started to arrive. In the Napoleonic War it was the French and Spanish.

If we were joined to Europe by land, with a military designed for an island nation, OF COURSE we would have no chance. But how stupid a scenario is that? If we were a land power, we would focus on the Army and not the Navy.
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>>53287246
the redhead obv
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>>53290861
I'm sorry when did I mention allies at all?
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>>53287162
>Everyone else stays neutral.
What if the universe was made of cotton candy and rainbows? Please take this question seriously and don't tell me what a moron I am

>>53290861
It's such a ridiculous requirement that people are ignoring it
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>>53290899
haha, well memed !
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>>53287162
oh shit no
m8
wat r u doin
delete this
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Pretty sure we have a contingency to destroy the chunnel with an hours notice, if there were ever an invasion threat from europe
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>>53287637
God bless you based pedo.
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>>53288444
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>>53290928

getting rekt in asymmetrical warfare 240 years ago isn't anything to be ashamed of either
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>>53290916
for a brit your english is shit
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>>53291191
>implying the majority of the UK actually wants scotland to stay

nice meme lad, if there was a referendum tomorrow in which the english could vote the scots would be out by a majority
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>>53288617
I ship it
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>>53291197
Of course not. We were fighting a civil war in America, French proxies in India, and the actual French, Spanish and Dutch simultaneously in three separate theatres (Europe, America, India) with 18th century logistics and communications. It would have been a miracle if we had won
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>>53291074
Nah, we jst gave the invader asylum
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>>53290688

>Using the 100 years war as an argument

You realize how quickly the war ended once Burgundy decided it had better things to do than fight with France for the sake of some English fags? And the English lost all of their territory in France (except for Calais that was sandwiched in Burgundian territory) as a result of the 100 years war.

The English got completely annihilated in the end. To use that war as a case to support that argument of yours is just really really silly.
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>>53291689
but not as silly as sir billy
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>>53291689
How is it bad. I was replying to a guy that said the UK would be too scared to mount a mainland invasion. The Hundred Year's War was an invasion and occupation that lasted over 100 years.
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>>53291827
Well a more obvious example is.. you know.. the handful of places we invaded after we became the UK. Some sort of empire IIRC
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>>53291923
Not one of those is in Mainland Europe
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>>53291827
Well, Frenchmen occuped France...nothing wrong desu
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>>53287444
it doesn't get any better
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>>53291827

Because at the time of the 100 years war England had really strong allies AND it owned a lot of territory in France prior to the war (due to their Norman heritage). The kingdom the French were at war with at the time considered itself to be more French than English until the later phases of the war.
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>>53287162

Today? France.
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>>53291962
The guy you replied to never specified mainland Europe >>53290527, he just said we're scared to leave our islands

Anyway if you want mainland Europe, a great example of that is the Duke of Marlborough kicking arse all over continental Europe during the War of the Spanish Succession
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>>53292082
Yea, I really admire Marly desu
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>>53292158
He was an artist

>The Duke of Marlborough's march from Bedburg (near Cologne) to the Danube. His 250-mile (400-kilometre) march to prevent Vienna falling into enemy hands was a masterpiece of deception, meticulous planning and organisation.
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Depends. If France is invading the UK, then the UK wins. If the UK is invading France, then France wins.
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>>53287162
>England
>post flag of Great Britain
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Neither can invade, the war would be just a naval/air battle or two
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>>53292307
Eh
Last Louis XIV's war...and some fucking Germans, Dutchies and English bantered us hard...
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>>53292504
Same thing
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>>53292516
Oh
Louis XIV's last war, no ?
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>>53292553
So are Scots, Welsh and N Ireland invited to the war?
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>>53292504
Everyone knows the UK is basically England + its three expansion packs.
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>>53292516
He was getting old 2bh. Anyway, France didn't come out of it too badly. The Spanish were the main losers of that war. Also it was important to the UK because that is when we got Gibraltar

>>53292564
>Louis XIV's last war, no ?
Correct
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If I recall correctly France has more nukes.
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>>53292699
Ok, thanks
+ you won in America ?
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>>53290752
>says the country that gave the USA it's independence
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>>53292749
we're separated by under 30 miles of water, any attack that gives either one of us significant fallout is going to do as much damage to the country that caused it
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>>53293283
Yes Britain won the purple territories in this map.

But the real battle for French/British influence in North America would be fought a few decades later in the Seven Years War
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>>53287162
I don't know but I'd be rooting for France
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>>53293563
Errr...c'est la vie, I guess
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>>53293563
America would be really a interesting place if francophone and anglophone settlements developed in equal proportion.
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>>53293698
>a whole continent that acts like canada

god, just imagine...
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Stalemate.

Their Navy/Air force has nothing on ours, but their ground troops are solid. They'd be unable to invade us, but we'd at best damage their infrastructure.

Won't happen anyway, so this is a silly question. We're friends now.
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>>53294122
>Their Navy/Air force has nothing on ours
I wouldn't be so sure about that if I were you
While our navy is smaller or can definitely hold its own, especially since we have an aircraft carrier. They likely wouldn't matter in the slightest though as any ship entering the channel at that point would be dead meat
The most important part would be the air force here and I don't think the RAF would have such an advantage. We have about as many Rafales as you have Typhoons if you include the naval air arm, plus more than a hundred Mirage 2000s.
They're definitely isn't a clear winner in the air force category imo
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>>53295075
*It can definitely
*that likely
*there definitely
Sorry about that I'm posting from my phone
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>>53291689
some dumbass think that the 100 years war was a conflit between England and France and not a civil war for the crown in France...
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>>53291923
Wow, you sure had the biggest colored-red-on-some-map-in-london """""""""""""empire""""""""""""
Thoughdespite the massive usage of red color pencils, you somehow never could successfully invade France, (nor Germany, nor Spain, nor Italy btw) while being invaded by France twice (1066 and 1326).
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>>53295379
Have you seen what attempts to invade and occupy large parts of mainland Europe do to the aggressor countries? It always - ALWAYS - ends in tears with horrible consequences for the aggressor, for the simple reason that they make lots of enemies.

At least when we lost our empire we weren't invaded and plundered
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>>53295075
The RAF is definitely too small right now, the new squadrons can't come fast enough.
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>>53295493
>ends in tears with horrible consequences for the aggressor
All we got was a bunch of cossacks drinking in Paris' bars for a few weeks. Not so horrible desu
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>>53295493
>he calls it successfull planing and wise decision making like they never tried to invade mainland europe
:^)
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>>53295075
>especially since we have an aircraft carrier
I'm pretty sure it would be relatively useless for a war against Britain.
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>>53295585
You're retarded

>>53295617
I hope for the sake of France you're >53295585
if not, you're an even bigger retard (no offense)
>aircraft carrier
>relatively useless
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>>53295616
>he calls it successfull planing and wise decision making like they never tried to invade mainland europe
Exactly, that is exactly what I'm saying. Of course we went in with allies many times >>53292082, but that was mostly to force them to cede land elsewhere and help allies
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>>53295315
>some dumbass
You mean recorded history throughout the entire world except, it would seem, France?
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>>53295716
What's the use of a mobile airbase that is going to be sank as soon as we start using it when we have ground bases that are closer to Britain and better-defended?
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>>53295797
I mean you can't open a single book of history, or even wikipedia....
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>>53295716
>You're retarded

It is perfectly true. And even more so if we do not take the 100 days into account.
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>>53295830
Bon mec vas te coucher, il n'y a rien de plus important dans une force armée moderne qu'un porte avions. Le contrôle des différentes mers (y'a pas que la Manche pêh), et par la de 100% du commerce d'un pays tel l'Angleterre est un chouia plus que vital, si tu me permets d'etre pédant.
>>53295907
Et les terres prises par les Révolutionnaires? Cette génération sacrifiée sur l'autel a la gloire de l'Empereur, a laquelle tu dois tant ?
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>>53295797
Be fair Chad, the head of England at the time was French refugees, that became (at some point) more powerfull than the king of France they had rejected. However, they (your ancestors) couldn't use that power to crush the tiny, little, Kingdom of France (aka at the time Paris and Orleans)
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>>53287246
red head are not human
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>>53295797
The parent post is right, the war for the throne of France was more akin of a civil war than anything else.

The ruling family of Britain at the time were French and had a legitimate claim, their cousins begged to differ. The troops were English but their commanders AND the people they fought against were French.
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>>53295797
Actually, he's right
Englishmen fought for French kings who wanted to take their motherland
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>>53296159
The French Normans were French by any definition of the term. It is true they were of mixed ancestry, but the duke of Normandy was a vassal to the King of France, they spoke a French dialect, were culturally French and led French troops. It is hard to get any more french than that.
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>>53296269
When people say that it was a civil war, they mean that the Armagnac-Burgundian conflict was much more important that the France-England conflict.
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>Type 45 destroyers shut down French airforce
>UK distributes arms wildly to immigrant groups in France (you know we can infiltrate you)
>Watch France implode
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Who fucking cares. We should be uniting to genocide/expel muslims not fighting each other
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>>53296374
This is all hypothetical, of course we know that
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>>53296368
>the queen comes to Paris to cleebrate victory
>crashes her car under the pont de l'Alma
>UK collapses.
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>>53296374
This. The question is ridiculous, the french and the brits have too much in common to fight anymore.

Most brits have a particular affection for France, and similarly, most french have a particular one for England.
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>>53296374
>We should be uniting to genocide muslims not fighting each other

Isn't it pretty much the same thing?
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UK has historically and today had great logistics.Frogs can't compete
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>>53287162
it depends, who has the strongest fifth column loses. Also UK has to refuel its carrier(AFUCKINGRAMPANDTWOTWOTOWERS) twice before reaching frogs
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>>53296453

It's kind of a love/hate relationship. I hate their language, but it's also the only other one I speak.
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>>53296453
furthermore there are entire villages comprised solely of brits senior who want to spend their old day in a slightly warmer place. Plenty of brit tourists too.
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>>53297072
>furthermore there are entire villages comprised solely of brits senior who want to spend their old day in a place with fast and efficient free healthcare.

fixed that for you
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>>53296484
Underrated post
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>>53296821
Rude pêh
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>>53296439
underrated post
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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