>Sverige is pronounced Svarye

>>53236684
>>bordeaux is pronounced bordo

>>53236684
>grzegorz is pronounced gzhegozh

>>53236875
alexander was greek by the way

>>53236828
>Leicester is pronounced lester

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>>53236977
>Leicester have you been a bad boy

Rike or Rige means kingdom. Sverige is just short for Kingdom of the Svea.

I'm genuinely insulted by the name Sweden, I mean, Den of Swedes?

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>sweden

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>non-phonetic languages

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>>53236828
>Cholmondeley is pronounced Chumlee

>>53236684
No it isn't.

>>53237111
trips of truth

>>53237202
of course it is what the fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTGHg9uMpTw

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>>53236935
There was doubt?

>>53237111
>mfw

>>53237278
More like Svehriyeh in that case 2bh

Svärje :D

>>53237494
>There was doubt?

nah, i just want you to confirm it with capital letters, please

>>53237526
Detta.
Antingen Sverige eller Svärje. Välj själva.

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>Swedes pronounce 'gangster' as 'yangster'.

>>53238487
>lying on 4chan

>>53237526
More like homona på andra sidan

>>53238487
>Moskva is pronounced Maskva

>>53238487
>Slovenians think Slovenia is a real country

>>53238942

My 10th grade history teacher forced us all to learn the "correct" pronunciation of Moscow as "Mokba" because the dumbass didn't know Cyrillic whatsoever

>>53238942
>>53238487
I am so sorry Janez. Pls forgib for mistaking your flag ;_;

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>>53238942
>writing кaкиe-тo
>pronouncing it like кит
feels good desu

>>53240674
>febuary
>fevralja (or fevraļa)

Disgusting 2bh.

Brits say Cologne instedlad of Köln.

>>53240964
Instead*

If your language is non-phonetic you're literally using written language wrong by the way
Imagine being an ancient Middle Eastern merchant at the dawn of the greek alphabet, you'd WANT to use letters to represent the same sound even in different dialects, accents and languages, it's literally the point of writing down things
Jesus, how could you get the bases wrong

>pronounce Leicester as "lay-sester"
>people get angry at me

>>53238487
No we don't

>>53239992
Sounds like a liberal

>>53241343
Then how do they want you to pronounce it?

>>53237083
>It is based on Middle Dutch Zweden, the Dutch name of Sweden, and in origin the dative plural of Zwede "Swede". It has been in use in English from about 1600, first recorded in Scottish Swethin, Swadne. Country names based on a dative plural in -n became productive in German and Dutch in the 15th century; compare German Italien "Italy", Spanien "Spain", Rumänien "Romania", Ungarn "Hungary".[4]

We used to call you Swedeland until you got bigger

>Szszszszsszzszszszszz is pronounced as "kurva"

I always get my 'sk' mixed up and pronounce it like 'hw' desu

>Chicago
>pronounced as Szikago

Germans use ö instead of eu

Köln -> Keulen

>>53242956
Wouldn't Koeln be more like it?

>>53236684
It's a corruption.

Svea rike is pronounced "Svea rike", and means "reich of the Swedes".

Sve'rike... Sverige... Sverye...

>>53242956
Ķelne is clearly more superior wwy of saying it.

So I know in Swedish sometimes G is pronounced J, but what about the city Gaevle? Someone said had a J in the beginning. That doesn't make sense though because it would sound like the curse word jaevle right?

>>53243323
it's pronounced with a j

>>53241210
Pizza
pitsa
capuccino
kaputshino
mocha
mocka

>llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

is pronounched like we

>>53241343
ley-chester is the proper way right?
corrupted to le'ster

>>53243464
Literally what

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>>53239992
>"Mokba"
Ayyy

>>53243323
Soft G/J.

Jävle. There's also a town called Fittja. Which is kind of like if you tried to construct the verb 'to pussy [something], as fitta means pussy.

>>53243458
You doing it wrong, Italian phonetic is very simple and clear.

>>53236828
Worchestershiresauce is pronounced wushtersauce.

>>53243539
>gitler
>gumanism
>goroskop

>no H in sight anywhere
what are you doing

>>53237084
not sweden, but i see your point.

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>>53236684
>Kista is pronounced Chista in swedish

Why do they do this, is every K pronounced like this?

>>53243323
The actual curse word adjective is jävla. The adjective e-ending is the masculine form, which doesn't exist in writing anymore (sweden yes). But you do hear it frequently, especially in some dialects.

>>53237084
>.uk

>>53243772
No. Most aren't I think it's like soft vowels or something. Kök=tjoek. Knulla=knulla.

>>53243744
Huyovo iskal.

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utsidan är en grym plats. Jag är aldrig lämnar mitt rum igen

>>53238487
You're confused about this one, it's the "J" sound which is difficult for Swedes to pronounce.

Used to talk with Swedish girl, and she said "yamp" instead of "jump". Cute desu.

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>>53244255
>and she said "yamp" instead of "jump"

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>>53243884
Stå på dig neetmerikan, jag tror på dig.

>>53244255
In Sweden, J is basically Y, and our Y doesn't really exist in english. An English first letter J is basically "dj". You're not saying 'jump', [yamp], you're saying djamp.

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>dkn ingen svart fv

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>tfw americans do "bork börk bork bork hödigödi" noises at you when you tell them you're swedish after they asked you were you were from.


I'm never going back, goddamn.
Not like I make redneck pigsqueals and gun noises when I talk to americans in Sweden.

>jager is yaegar
nice meme language fags

>>53245029
lol wtf where did you go in the US?

>>53245222
Traveled around California,Nevada and Utah with a brief stop in Idaho.

>>53245326
I live in Utah and no one would say that about Swedes to my knowledge, what le fugg

>>53243536
http://youtu.be/fHxO0UdpoxM
>Wales in charge of naming towns

>>53245326
>Gommiefornia
Too progressive to make fun of you
>Nevada
Too busy getting blasted and gambling
>Utah
Too wholesome to make fun of you
I don't believe you lad
Best I can imagine is one guy made fun of you and you got super upset about it.

>melbourne is pronounced like "melbin"

>>53236977

Us locals pronounce it Lestah.

Polish is the easiest language to pronounce because every letter sounds always the same

>>53243053
not same dutch guy but oe combination is already something different in dutch, oe= the oo in loot

>z is pronounced zee in america

>>53239992
Jesus that's hilarious. What a fucking idiot. Did no one correct him? That's just funny. Trying to sound smart, but not quite getting it...

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>>53245734
>zed

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>>53245650
>Łódź is pronounced "woodge"

>>53245650
>In an ideal phonemic orthography, there would be a complete one-to-one correspondence (bijection) between the graphemes (letters) and the phonemes of the language, and each phoneme would invariably be represented by its corresponding grapheme. This would mean that the spelling of a word would unambiguously and transparently indicate its pronunciation; and conversely that a speaker knowing the pronunciation of a word would be able to infer its spelling without any doubt. This ideal situation is rare, but does exist. An example of an ideally phonemic orthography is the Serbian language. In the Serbian Cyrillic alphabet there are thirty graphemes each uniquely corresponding to one of thirty phonemes. Ideal phonemic orthography was achieved in the 19th century when Serbian linguist Vuk Karadzic reformed the Cyrillic alphabet and presented it to the public with a phrase "Write as you speak, read as it is written" (Piši kao što govoriš, čitaj kako je napisano/Пиши кao штo гoвopиш, читaј кaкo јe нaпиcaнo). A perfect phonemic orthography makes reading and writing of Serbian language very easy to learn.

>>53238487
They don't, but they pronounce J as Y. Joke = Yoke, Jump = Yump. It's very distinct, and I've only heard Swedes do this.

>>53238487
great tv show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRo-hzTTKUY

great song about ugly women ^

>tfw pronouncing norge as no ge in my head as I type this

>>53245822
Its zē 2bh

>>53246002
It contains the R sound no Anglo can pronounce, so it's actually for the best.

>>53246100
>>53245822
>Not /tset/

>>53245412
CHANNEL 4 BRINGING THE BBC!!!!

SAY IT LOUD
SAY IT CLEAR
BBC IS WELCOME HERE

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mfw a frenchman tried to say horse

>>53246478
sounds like hearse without the h

>>53243707
This one makes me want to punch people

>>53246440
BIG
BALTIC
COCK

>>53236684
Blame the Danefags for that OP. They permanently cucked us.

The real name of our country is "Svea Rike" and Sverige is a contraction, probably Danish in origin.

>>53242467
So basically Sweden means "the Swedes".

That is funny 2bh.

>Swedes denying that they pronounce G as Y

When why the hell do you pronounce the name of the town of Gaevle as Yaevle?

>>53237083
Rike does not mean kingdom just as the German word Reich does not mean empire.

The closest translation in English is probably "realm".

>mainland yurp
>good pronunciation
anglos win again

>>53247674
Our y-sound is completely different from English y. It's a vowel not a fucking question.

G is sometimes pronounced as j. Gävle is one such example. Why I've no clue. I guess it's archaic.

>>53246002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjY4AirrdLw

>>53247639
In dutch:
Sweden = Zweden
Swedes = Zweden
Swede = Zweed (which sounds the same as to sweat)
Swedish = Zweeds

>>53237033
Underrated post

>>53248643
So not even the Swedes just Swedes.

Hello I'm a Swede, I'm from Swedes. Many Swedes live in Swedes, that's why Swedes is called Swedes.

>>53248135
"G palatalisation". It affected North Germanic but also Northern dialects of West Germanic. In English for example "Garn" became "yarn" and "Garten" became "yard" ("garden" is a later loan from Frankish)

>>53248762
you're all aspies

>>53248762
>>53248643
Same here
"Schweden" means both the country and the plural from of its inhabitants

>>53248643
Now that I think of it, more names of places in Scandinavia in English are based on Dutch (or German)
>Sjælland > Zeeland > Zealand
>Kobenhavn > Kopenhagen > Copenhagen
>Jylland > Jutland > Jutland

>>53248877
>from
*form

I want people who don't use phonemic orthographies out of this thread.
:^3

>>53248895
North Germanic just has slurred and shortened words more than West Germanic has (exception: Icelandic, extreme example: Danish)

>>53248815
Makes sense. Also makes sense then that most examples of soft g are old names.

>>53248816
Not going to argue.

>>53248877
I wonder how this came to be.

>>53248955
You don't do shit like Russians when they spell "voda" but say "vada"?

>>53248987
Va sägeru omoss va säru ha spö?

>>53243323
G + e, i, y, ä, ö is pronounced as J.

>>53249040
It's probably the only Slavic language with completely phonetic orthography.

>>53249040
Nope. Voda is voda.
There are a few examples like "leb" (bread) - pronounced as "lep" (b transforms into p, v into f) but only in some words. And they are connected as voiced/voiceless consonants pairs so there is no confusion whether this or that way. It almost comes naturally to pronounce it that way and even if you pronounce it literally it won't be wrong or anything.

>>53249310
Our alphabet is based on the Serbian one however we don't have cases like them.

>>53249381
Yeah, we also devoice final consonants even if they're written as voiced, quite a few languages do that

>>53249310
Isn't White Russian pretty much a phonetic version of Russian? Or so I've heard

>>53249420
Besides that slight inconsistency the rest is 1 to 1.

>>53249381
>quite a few languages do that
Kek, literally all Slavic languages except for Serbo-Croatian and Ukrainian.

>>53249497
Do you still have that "soft/hard" consonant bullshit going on? It's the most confusing thing about Slav languages desu
>>53249557
It's even happening in such unrelated languages such as Turkish as far as I know

>colonel
>one
>queue

Another century more and English is written with hieroglyphs.

>>53244255
same with ch, cheap/sheep is the same to swedes

>>53249467
Nope
>stress is still not marked
>consonants should be voiced/devoiced in some positions

>>53249467
>Isn't White Russian pretty much a phonetic version of Russian? Or so I've heard

Haha, yes it's a case in some words, but Belarusian is different in more than just that. Actually I think it's more similar to Ukrainian than Russian.

>>53249598
>Do you still have that "soft/hard" consonant bullshit going on?
No. We use separate letters for these sounds for example
н(n) њ(nj)
л(l) љ(lj)

>>53249598
It was also inherent to Old French, as far as I know.

>>53247674
It can be both J and G. Gangster is pronounced just as it is written.

>>53238487
>yanyster

>>53249672
>>53249701
Eh, not knowing to much about East Slav langs, but it always appeared to me that their internal differences are way less than between the continuum of German and Dutch dialects (compare High Alemannic to Frisian)
>>53249775
So you still have that distinction? I mean I can kinda grasp "n" to "nj" differnce", but "sh" vs "shj"? Sound the same to me

>>53249812
Yeah, and Old English too, dunno how they "reversed" it

>>53249665
>kernul
>wun
>kyu

Those all look retarded though.

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>foreigners (except latvia, liettua and viro) pronounce Suomi as "Finland"

>>53249952
>So you still have that distinction?
No, letters stands on their own not affected by what follows or precedes them. Soft versions of consonants like nj were made separate letters entirely so there is no ambiguity. And since we don't have a soft "sh" it is just "sh" (ш) i.e. only one letter.

>>53249665
>language
Langwitch

>>53249665
You read English like it's written with glyphs. As in, you recognize whole words just based on the fact that you know them like Chinese.

There is a town in Scotland called Kirkcudbright that is unironically pronounced "Kir-coo-bray"

>>53249665
Whats wrong with queue?

>>53250270
лэнгвич

>>53250335
Pronounced as q

>>53250335
>queue = kiuiu
>que = kiu
The way you say it is the same as the latter one

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>>53250307
>when foreigners always pronounce "Mousehole" as "mouse hole"

>>53250337
Längvits

>>53250270
>Langwitch

What the fuck have you been smoking? How could you get it so wrong?

>>53250374
>>53250388
qu is always kyu, and the eue is pronounced.

>>53250388
how about no

>>53250442
>vits
it's not a "ts" sound though, more like "ch" which we don't have in Finnish (ч sound is pretty perfect though)

>>53250208
That's good. Also I hear that you simplified cases, but what about genders? Do you still have that male - female - neuter (well up to that point we have it too but let's continue...) - animal, non-animal shit going on like Polish?
>>53250460
It should be spelled "Lährnguitsch" and "kjuu" desu

>>53250337
>>53250530
Hi Sergey how's Finlan :D

>>53243707
What? No it isn't, it's "wis-ter-shur-sauce".

>>53250498
>>53250460
queue is literally the same as q

>>53243772
Skerping. It comes from Old Norse and is still existant in Faroese, modern Swedish technically doesn't have it but some remnants of it still remain.

>>53250604
Not him, but "Worcester" is literally pronounced "Wuuse" (in German spelling)

>>53250604
it's pronounced "wus-ter-shur sauce" m8

>>53238487
Just hanging out with the yang you know? :P

>>53249952
>Yeah, and Old English too, dunno how they "reversed" it
I suppose they didn't reverse anything, they just dropped the final vowel in some words, like it usually happens. It's also possible in Russian to a certain extent.

>>53250686
Its wooster you fucking retard

>>53250667
To follow up >>53248815
, "k" got a similar treatment as "g" also in Anglo-Frisian, shows best in early Latin/Greek loanwords into Germanic. "Käse" has become "cheese", "Kirche" has become "church", so there's been a /k/ -> /ch/ shift before front vowels from proto-Germanic to English

>>53250568
I'm not Sergey, мoй бpaт

>>53243772
Hard vowel = Hard K
Soft vowel = soft k

Unless the rules are ignored for that word because fuck you.

>Chex sjoklad

>>53244845
In English we say "djuhmp", not "djamp".

>>53250723
That complies with the German spelling "Wuuse" though

svärje

>>53250817
It would be spelled/approximated as /a/ in most alphabets of the world though (here "dschamp")

>>53244845
>djamp.
Would still not sound right. I can pronounce djamp and it sounds nothing like jump.

>>53244255
In Swedish many Gs are pronounced like the english Y sound.

He's actually sort of right in a way. The word gang is pronounce yang where I live.

>>53250859
pjäxa :3

>>53250562
>Also I hear that you simplified cases
Mostly, yes.

>Do you still have that male - female - neuter
Yes. But these are mostly determined by the ending of the word f.e.
masculine end in consonants
feminine end in -a
neuter end in -e or -o

there are a few exceptions though but they are clearly defined such male gender nouns that end in a vowel expressing family relationships
tatko (father), dedo (grandfather) etc
or feminine nouns that end in a consonant but they are always abstract things like
prolet (spring), vecher (evening)

>animal, non-animal shit going on like Polish?
lol no

>>53250460
I couldnt find a proper pronunciation guide for the word on my phone right now but that is the way ive always heard it. Feel free to correct.

Also:
>words ending -ation
Pronounces something like a-shon

But i know... English orthography is fukked and people should just deal with all the weird shit in langwiches because every natural languages has a ton of them in one of or another.

>>53251102
*one way or another

>>53251102
ti in the same syllable = sh

>>53251144

Hey is it true in finland that its not gay to fuck a trap as long as the balls don't touch?

>>53236684
WTF? I thought it was pronounced sverige

>>53251102
It's more like "lang-widj" 2bh, the "ch" part is voiced.

>>53251198
yeah and first time doesn't make you gay and tenth time resets

>>53251341
I'm not gay but 20$ is 20$

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>>53237111
>mfw I speak the objectively best language in the world

>>53251655
nah m8 mexican fucking sucks imo

>>53251655
jebem ti mater mongloidno pička smrdljiva prizadeta :)

>>53239992
I thought it was moscuoyo.

>>53248762
>>53248643
>>53248762

Actually, the word comes from the old word for Sweden, Svitjod
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svitjod
>Namnet Svitjod och dess olika former gav upphov till det latinska namnet för Sverige: Suethia, Suetia och Suecia, liksom namnen på Sverige i västgermanska språk som engelskans Sweden och tyskans Schweden.

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>>53251753

>>53251893
>Svitjod
So that's why "Svíþjóð" sounds so different from "Sverige", we stuck true to the original.

>>53251956
if Macedonia and Slovenia would unite we could corner the wine market

>>53252176
As previously stated ni this thread, Sverige is a combination of two words - Svea Rike, Svea, the tribe, comes from Svitjod.
Rike is the same word as the German Reich, and pretty much means realm.

>>53252342
Yeah, but those few countries between us might pose a problem.

>>53252465
we buy serbia and invite west croatia

>>53245029
>Not like I make redneck pigsqueals and gun noises when I talk to americans in Sweden.
Maybe we should start.

Also, >mfw Swedes mention borkborkbork to me in Sweden

I can't facepalm hard enough.

>>53245029
You proved yourself unable to handle the banter.

>>53252418
>Tfw Sweden will never get renamed Götaland/Götarike

>>53252681
Geats btfo

>>53243744

Holy kek, sounds like Spurdo Sparde-speak.

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>>53252750

kill me

Please give me a motivation to learn Swedish. I am stuck between Dutch,French, German, Finnish and Swedish. But my girlfriend is Swedish. Why should I learn it? I know the basic though

>>53253129
No.

>>53253165
>Why
Because your girlfriend is Swedish.

Other than that, if you don't intend to do some career that somehow magically involves swedish, or plan to live here.... Why would you learn it?


That said, it is a pretty cool language. But all languages have their charms.

What criteria do you want to decide based on for your language learning?

someone plssss nuke this country

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>>53252681
>geats
>gutes
>kvens
ahaha

>>53253220
I like complexity and an extense vocabulary, as French and German, but as far as I know Swedish doesn't have much of this. I don't feel free to write in English as in French, because of its limitations and not many options. But, I still like how Swedish sounds and visually. And I like the Nordic culture.

>>53253359
>>53253220
I started in Swedish, and then I went to German. Then Finnish, and so on. I just can't be fixated in only ome thing.

>>53242774
John G. Shedd Aquarium – akwarium publiczne w Chicago, USA. Powstało w 1930, znajduje się przy ulicy Lake Shore Drive, przy brzegu jeziora Michigan. Znajdują się w nim ryby, ssaki morskie, ptaki, węże, płazy i owady.

Znajduje się w kompleksie Museum Campus Chicago, w którego skład wchodzą: Adler Planetarium i Muzeum Historii Naturalnej. W przeszłości było największym tego typu obiektem na świecie, posiadało około 25 000 ryb a pojemność 19 000 m3 (5 milionów galonów), aż do czasu powstania Georgia Aquarium w Atlancie, USA w 2005 o pojemności (30 000 m3).


What a meme language

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>>53253273
>kvens

>>53253459
A linguist will tell you all languages are equally complex.

That said, as an English speaker, Swedish -feels- very complex to me.

Vocabulary-wise I don't feel like I can judge, but Swedish seems so far to have fewer synonyms than english, but it has a lot of words for things we have no name for in English.

>>53250169
It's a reminder of who cucked you first

>>53253759
>A linguist will tell you all languages are equally complex.
no, he won't

>>53250169
Take it as a compliment, oh person of Fine Land.

>>53253812
Depends which you talk to. I emailed one at a university a while back with some questions, and that was the answer I got to one of them.

They haven't proven it, but it's more or less the assertion they go with.

>>53253843
>finn = fine
canadian pls

>>53253898
Consider it a retcon ;)

>Whakatane

>pronounced fuck-a-ta-nay

YOU DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A WRITTEN LANGUAGE REEEE

>>53250169
Okej, Österland

>>53252681
>>53252750
>>53253273
Does geats even exsist anymore? How do you seperate a geat from a svea?

>>53255244
There are no distinct tribes anymore. There are regional dialects of course, but those aren't along the historical tribal areas or anything.

That said, Stockholmers sound comically retarded.

>>53236684
>Rio = Hee-o

>>53254592
Kan vi inte bara annektera Finland igen så att vi får in lite rödpillat valboskap?

>>53251753
Translation needed. Into French preferably.

>>53253220
How do I pronounce Jag?

>>53255911
Ya with the long a sound found in the word bot or pot.

you can pronounce the G if you want. It's a hard G like in Go.

>People pronounce Favre as Farve
Explain

>>53255911
>>53256008
I'd just record it but I have a thick NA English accent so it isn't the optimal helpfulness :P

>mfw anglolards pronounce "Quebec" as "kwuhbec"
there's no fucking 'w' sound, you fucking anglolards

>>53256124
Maybe you should spell it Kaybek then ;)

>>you can pronounce the G if you want

Doesn't that make the word sound completely different?

>>53256090
Do you pronounce the "g" in jag at all or no?

>>53256147
It's a French word and only loanwords start with K in French

>>53237111
Finnish is a based language comprised entirely of triples

>>53256173
I only do sometimes when the next word starts with a vowel. It's more due to my accent than anything else.

>>53256200
Then accept that foreigners pronounce it differently ;)

>>53256161
Well, it has a G on the end then? So yeah.

>>53256161
Again, caveat, I am not a Swede.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Klf3s6NozJ

>>53256243
So does the average Swede pronounce the G often or not?

>>53256353
:3 QT

>>53256386
Not often. Sometimes I hear them do it when they're trying to speak really formally, but it just sounds weird as shit.

>>53256403
Håll käften!

>>53256421
Var är du från?

>może is pronounced morze
>bóg is pronounced buk
>lud is pronounced lód
am i doing it right?

>>53256437
Kanada. Och jag lär mig göteborgska o inte riksvenska. HUEHUEHUE

>>53256455
Usch och fy!

>>53256474
RUDE.

Seriously though, speaking the local dialect is the best way to sound like a native in my mind.

DE
VA
LA
GÖTT

>>53243458
There is nothing wrong with representing an africate with a single letter if that's what you're implying.

>cough is pronounced coff
>plough is pronounced plow

>daught is pronounced draft
>naught is pronounced not

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>>53243458
>Swedish perception of the ch(english)/cc(italian) sound

EVERY TIME

>>53256579
English confirmed for shit language.