иcтинcкaтa мaймyдoнcкa иcтopиджa, as produced by cpбиджa
>U kafanu pusu marihuanu
ili neku drogu piju s nogu
te sam noci spavalo pod sankom
da se ne bi osecalo strankom
>Ovde vopste nema Holandezi
sve Arapi, crnci, i Kinezi
tu ljudovi vopste ne spavaju
samo vicu i zajebavaju
haha fuck when was this song again? 80s?
europe is dead
i na tebe, hristos se rodi
>stats from abroad show approximately 600k people have moved out of here
>yesterday a pro-gov "expert" writes "most people that have moved out have done so mostly because of love problems"
WHERE THE FUCK DO I LIVE D:
because you re bunch of faggots, i'm posting you only the half eaten dish.
also, what's your excuse not to listen quality gothic metal?
I have some newsflash for you my friend:
>Пoзнaтa ми e злoбнocтa нa нeкoи cиви eминeнции штo ce paдyвaaт нa тaквиoт тpeнд бидeјќи тaкa, вeлaт, вo мoлк ги cнeмyвaлo млaдитe Aлбaнци мycлимaни. Aмa, нe ќe дa e бaш тaкa, бидeјќи иcтoвpeмeнo и мacoвнo, иcтo тaкa вo мoлк, cи oдaт и млaдитe Maкeдoнци. Aнaлизитe пaк пoкaжyвaaт нeштo мнoгy пopaзитeлнo зa cивитe eминeнции. Имeнo, млaдитe Aлбaнци штo oдaт нa Зaпaд, чecтo и ce вpaќaaт или нe ги пpeкинyвaaт oднocитe co cвoјoт poдeн кpaј. Кaј Maкeдoнцитe пaк e пoзнaтo дeкa aкo eднaш ce иceлaт, вeќe нe ce вpaќaaт. Cлyшнaл ли нeкoј зa нeкoј Maкeдoнeц штo ce вpaтил oд Aвcтpaлијa или Кaнaдa ?
too bad, but we aren't diaspora roaches at least who pretend to be patriotic from 2000 meters away, I'd rather we stay like that than become subhuman diaspora
if you're gonna move out fuck off I don't care
population is dropping everywhere in europe, greece, russia, germany, france, japan will lose millions, even our muslims now have negative birthrate (bellow 2.1), population drop is inevitable unless you're in subsaharan africa or afghanistan
because they're scum
>hurrdurr I clean toilets in Germany look at me im so rich lol poorfags in old country xDD but I'm patriotic guise believe me lol look at me being a patriot from across the globe xDDD they are only pests
being a patriotic diaspora takes some balls, depending on where you are tho
>be openly patriotic serb in a city that's 100 percent white serb and your family and friends are there to back you up
>be openly patriotic serb in some shit-tier ghetto in melbourne dominated by shqips
they're all the same rats, balkan diaspora especially becomes gutter rats in places like germany or canada, shqips especially and to a lesser extent the rest of us, of course I support diaspora if they want to beat up shqips tho
i was diaspora in northern europe for 4 years but never talked about it cos no one cares to hear about ur country and people are busy being proud of other stuff like their achievements
you seem a bit bitter, i dont know. nothing wrong with being patriotic and trying to retain your heritage abroad
maybe, last time I checked our mudslimes had 1.7 birthrate we had 1.3, so not THAT bad, but still terrible
why would I want to be a dope cleaner looked down upon like a gypsy in western europe? fuck no, I could have become that if I chose to
the reason they immigate is profit, nothing else, they shouldn't pretend to be patriotic
2012 estimate I think?
ofc it exists, where do you think the diaspora hang out? like that albo diaspora in chicago who lives in a ghetto, majority of diaspora lives like that, like rats
>the reason they immigate is profit
yeah slaving away here is much better
i want to immigrate so i can focus more on family while not killing myself trying to provide for them
yes you will, because you're filthy diaspora working bellow minimum wage? don't think they're treated the same as natives, they're treated on the same level as muslims from middle east, I understand albos liking diaspora because 80% of your population is diaspora, but they're shit
ye working in min wage in a sweat shop while germans/french laugh at you is way better than staying home in Poland
>ye working in min wage in a sweat shop while germans/french
im an IT specialist, i already had a comfy job here but too many hours and slaving
the 1st generation in a new country always has to live like rats and make a shit ton of sacrifices so hopefully their offspring and their offspring can live semi-normal lives
if you're not a family-oriented man and you don't go there pre-educated and with a direct invitation to fill up a highly-respected job position, you'll eat shit
>if you're not a family-oriented man and you don't go there pre-educated and with a direct invitation to fill up a highly-respected job position, you'll eat shit
no shit, and at the same time they pretend to remain nationalists from the country they immigrated from, it's terrible, and their kids too are even worse, they pretend to identify with the country their parents came from more than the country where they were born and lived, without even stepping foot in their parents' shithole
>the 1st generation in a new country always has to live like rats
that varies, my cousin bought his own apartment in holland after working there only 4 years
if you are minimum wage abroad chances are you wont get much in your own county
>>be openly patriotic serb in some shit-tier ghetto in melbourne dominated by shqips
Would've been more believeable if you wrote Zurich or Malmo.
>2012 estimate I think?
Estimate by whom and on what data?
Gov statistics only count births but even then, not by ethnicity. The only thing we have is which are the highest birthrates and which are the lowest in which municipality. And then we can see what we have based on who is the majority there.
And guess what happens, pic related.
they release birth by religion I think? same thing as ethnicity, I'm interested in how Kumanovo is in 2015, there weren't any shqip neighbourhoods as I remember in 2001, even though I was 7 then
yeah you can manage living like chinese sweat shop worker so you can scrounge up some money, but if you want to try go for it just pretend to be syrian
nah, hes a top lad. used to have a internship with me at CERN.
not everyone can do that im sure, but shitting on the average guys its not cool either
woops missed your reply
i saw some documentaries about CERN a week ago
turns out it's not that hard to get an internship there - just be studying whatever, like physics, engineering or IT, or even fucking humanities, and apply
>it's surprising that makkes have love problems
no shit, they ran away from us too
yeah but a lot of the shqips in kumanovo came after kosovo war (like 50% of our albos in total) thanks whichever retard gave them citizenship, to refugees, we made the same mistake Germany is doing only a much bigger scale, you know the shqips were supposed to move on to Germany? but they were left here and eventually some western cuck politician decided to give them citizenship
that depends, he had a intership at the library doing IT shit kek. id love to work there as you get 0% taxes and so much fucking benefits
>they release birth by religion I think?
Not that I know of.
And I don't believe they do.
Why be buttmade at diaspora? I'm happy for every Makedonian who has his dream fullfilled, whether it's here or a beach in new south wales. If they want to stay in touch with us, fine, if they don't it's fine too.
btw the leader of the shqip party in coalition and a few of his top people is tomorrow visiting Greece to see the FM there
And yes, they go on their own initiative, no government authorized or whatsoever
>I mean some one to exile the remaining Turks
that was the most idiotic thing, тbh
if that didnt happened, nowadays DPS wouldn't exist.
They were already peaceful and integrated, and that thing only radicalized some of them to the point they will vote for mafia-based party just because its leaders are ethnic turks (or are they?)
Christ is born! Merry christmas from Norway!
>Yugo migrants are not respected
even if true now well be cause there's so many non whites you'll be in one of 2 categories: human and non human hahahhaa cant make this up
No now it probably looks like this
I wish it looked like a construction site permanently rather than...well this.
now macedonian polish rap
my favorite, our gypsy ghetto in skopje https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXtTuCpBv8g
Chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie w Szczebrzeszynie,
W szczękach chrząszcza trzeszczy miąższ,
Czcza szczypawka czka w Szczecinie,
Chrząszcza szczudłem przechrzcił wąż,
Strząsa skrzydła z dżdżu,
A trzmiel w puszczy, tuż przy Pszczynie,
Straszny wszczyna szum
>oppressive and racist uk government
>the only hope for humanity is a black girl
>people want to kill all the immigrants and blacks because "dey hurible wait ppl"
>in the end the blacks, the world is saved and everyone realize racism and hate for minorities and different religion is stupid
the immense amount of sz, cz, rz is enough to scare foreigners off
>scare foreigners off
thats a good thing comrade ))))
It is inevitable that the US will transition from a republic into an empire, and the whole world will feel their lash and fury. I'd rather than happen later rather than sooner. Imagine, the Middle East and Asia burning, and everyone slaving away for the American Empire.
You will care when people all over the world who have insulted the Emperor start mysteriously disappearing in the middle of the night. The Empire will be what Russians secretly dream of becoming, except Russians are alcoholic lazy fucks, and everyone will know the true meaning of efficiency and submission under the new regime.
>Das raysis, black lives matter
slavs are not white so we cant be racist
>it would be obvious and then you go to jail
Well yeah it'd be obvious if you anounce it to everyone. But no, I know of someone (not directly but nevertheless) who actually did it. He's still "married" actually (found some spic or smth).
>Did she have citizenship before that?
>Are they living in some ghetto now?
No. Though, I don't know the details myself. He actually went with her out of the country once "to visit his family" and they also "live together" there but only for the purpose that they look "married".
South Africans apparently have some of the highest incomes in the anglo world, but white ones. Downside is the chance of getting killed by niggers is extremely high. I was watching some video about belgrade and a serb muh heritage south african girl moved back there, said it's a lot safer because she can leave her house at night.
their language is fuckin' retarded tb.h, dutch is already some kind of broken german, and afrikaans is BROKEN DUTCH, but idc, they have like the hottest women in the world I swear to god, look at the blonde women in these vids
>this is going to be the "Asian century"
>Bulgarians can call upon on their Bulgar/Tatar ancestors and claim they are an "Asian country" accidentally placed in Europe
>>Bulgaria will be 1st world in our lifetime
27 posters, each is let's say in his 20's, and has, let's say 40 years to go before meet up with st. Peter.
That's 27 * (20 + 40) = 1620 years.
Alright, i'll say it's plausible. Myth confirmed.
desu I hope all balkan slav countries become 1st world and wish the best for us all
You feel closer to Serbs, Croats, and Bulgarians because we speak effectively the same language, not because of common ancestry. Don't get me wrong, we do have some common ancestry, but Poles and Russians are very different from us in terms of genetics.
>but Poles and Russians are very different from us in terms of genetics
Not him, but so what? We're culturally more or less similar. And even if you argue we're not, those differences between us are trivial and VERY easily bridged between us.
SARS is awesome
Poles are not overly culturally similar to Balkanites. Russians, even less so. You are most similar to nations that speak different languages, such as Greeks, Romanians, and yes, Turks.
You need to reload and play when Castile rivals France, get Castile involved into the 100year war, and make the French waste their manpower by placing your army on the Pyrenees. Fighting in Normandy is suicide.
hes right tb.h were similar as fuck to Turkey culturally, balkanites in general that is, but that doesn't mean we aren't close to Poland or Russia at least a bit, we even have slavic pagan holidays, such as the bonfires before kolede
>hes right tb.h were similar as fuck to Turkey culturally
How the fuck are we? What, just because we have Burek? Well fuck burek m8. Because we have a few words of Turkish origin? Fine, ban them. A few influences in cuisine or imported words do not constitute "closeness". We have more similarity in our world view and mentality to any Slav before anything else.
your compatriot is right.
your cousine is turkish influenced, your language is turkish influenced. basically what you eat and what you talk is what gives (partially) your cultural identity.
Everything away from this is p-much "we was relevant empire 1300 years ago" bs
Stop arguing, Balkan culture is literally Byzantine Commonwealth, with Slavic countries having more slavic influences, but its Byzantine culture that actually binds us, this is why Russia is closer to us than Poland for example, because Russia was heavily influenced by Byzantium and Poland was influenced by western Latin culture.
yeah idk man, look at some Turk soap opera and you'll see the similarities, in the attire, in the decoration of homes, in the customs, food, music, but not in religion obviously, and we have more "bydlo" mentality (tracksuits and shit all over aerodrom) lol that comes from our slav side
cuisine = definitely
language = hardly lol, a 100 maybe less loanwords? you have em too
Actually that's sound reasoning.
Both Serbia and Bulgaria have throughout the middle ages tried to emulate Byzantium, as evident by the architecture style, clothes of the nobles and royalty, art style, governmental organisation, and even the laws are based on Byzantine codes like Ecloga and Prochiron
Russia did invest a lot into post-1944 Bulgaria. They built our nuclear power-plant, for example, and we should remember that.
However, after the fall of the USSR, Russia became a mafia state.
>you have em too
but then again i dont say European Turkey is not culturally closer to us than Bolan or Russia.
>inb4 but muh orthodox bruvs
religion is not a cultural thing. If it is, this means britbongs are are bruvs just because they are Christ... i mean, they were Christians (even tho they are meme ones)
True. Except we fought who would be the successor of Byzantium and the unifier of Slavic tribes. Serbia won, I guess, because the Powers of the 19th century chose it to be so.
Bulgarians, however, being the tough bastards that we are, never accepted that.
>Russia did invest a lot into post-1944 Bulgaria.
>t.Vladimir Ilich Lenin
everything built in Bulgaria was built with our money and our blood and sweat.
Read about where did our gold reserve went (twice) between 1947 and 1989 and why it went there.
Oh well :^)
There's been bad blood, but not nearly as much as we've had with Croats since then.
True, not sure about the gdp per capita (Czechoslovakia won there, and our was rather shit), but Yugoslavia had the biggest percentage of population with a roof over their head, in door plumbing, electricity and employment.
When it comes to the Eastern block that is.
yep, there was another black miss europe but forgot from where lol
poles alienated themselves by becoming NATO puppets, Russia's greatest enemy, as for Ukranians, that was a messy conflict
Daily reminder Pan-slavism doens't exist, its the brain child of retarded Czech romantics to justify a non German state, used by the Russian Empire as a tool to justify the intervention and occupation of slavic speaking countries. Reminder that Pan-slavism was used by the Serbs to create a fake "Yugoslav" identity in order to stop Yugoslavia from falling apart, a concept accepted by the Communist government.
Reminder that Macedonians who are pan-slavists are once again sucking Serbo-Communist semen.
>Daily reminder Pan-slavism doens't exist, its the brain child of retarded Czech romantics to justify a non German state
good, fuck Germans and fuck their imperialism, Czech Republic is not a German state
also it wasn't Serbs who created the Yugoslav identity, Tito wasn't even a Serb, we should have kept it, we would be a strong relevant powerful nation, idiots like you are the reason balkans is a balkanized irrelevant shithole only existing to be slapped around by bigger powers
>yeah idk man, look at some Turk soap opera and you'll see the similarities, in the attire, in the decoration of homes, in the customs, food, music, but not in religion obviously,
>White Western Turks off the coast of the Aegean+foreigners resemble balkanites
You don't say.
But i will give you that. Turkey influenced us. Look at
>religion is not a cultural thing. If it is, this means britbongs are are bruvs just because they are Christ... i mean, they were Christians (even tho they are meme ones)
We once tried to make communion between the orthodox communion and the Anglicans, lol. And even today, the anglican mass is a valid liturgy in Orthodoxy.
But the protestant influences of Anglicanism+ the orthodox theologians of the time rightly predicting they would turn uber-socially liberal brough an end to that.
They weren't that different once, desu.
>also it wasn't Serbs who created the Yugoslav identity,
Only it was you retard
>There were sectional South Slavic ethnic nationalists who endorsed Yugoslavism as a means to achieve their ethnicity's unification. After 1878, Serbian nationalists merged their goals with those of Yugoslavists, emulating the leading role of the kingdom of Sardinia and Piedmont in the Risorgimento of Italy by claiming that Serbia sought not only to unite all Serbs in one state, but that it intended to be a South Slavic equivalent of Piedmont, uniting all South Slavs into one state to be known as Yugoslavia.[3
No go fuck yourself with a kolovrat.
>Daily reminder Pan-slavism doens't exist
As long as I exist, it will exist too. You can't kill ideas.
>its the brain child of retarded Czech romantics
If you at least used a few typing strokes in Google then typing your shit here, you would've seen it was Croats who came with the idea first. Then again. You are probably a retard and I am wasting my time replying to this.
>used by the Russian Empire as a tool to justify the intervention
Oh wow shitty Russian empire. Should've left Bulgaria under the Ottomans no? Surely that would've been better.
> and occupation of slavic speaking countries.
Oh wow such occupation, giving enslaved people their own country.
>Reminder that Pan-slavism was used by the Serbs to create a fake "Yugoslav" identity in order to stop Yugoslavia from falling apart, a concept accepted by the Communist government.
There is nothing wrong with a Yugoslav identity and it's not fake. Certainly less fake than the current "Macedonian" identity.
>Reminder that Macedonians who are pan-slavists are once again sucking Serbo-Communist semen.
Your mom is the only one that sucks my "Serbo-Communist" semen. Deal with it and fuck off.
it wasn't you fuckin' retard, Yugoslavia, SFRJ was literally created in a war between chetniks who wanted a new greater Serbia and Tito who wanted a federal republic of Yugoslavia, why do you kids not know your own history
yes because it was the biggest and most industrialized city, not only that but in the center of the country, use logic
>it wasn't you fuckin' retard, Yugoslavia, SFRJ was literally created in a war between chetniks who wanted a new greater Serbia and Tito who wanted a federal republic of Yugoslavia, why do you kids not know your own history
>doesn't know about the Kingdom of Yugoslavia that was created in 1918
>tells me to know my history
Your history is literally 8th grade tier.
What if i told you Poles are Catholic Sarmatians.
YOU FUCKING IDIOT WORLD WAR 2 HAPPENED
AFTER THAT THERE WAS LITERALLY A WAR BETWEEN THE CHETNIKS AND TITO'S PARTISANS ON WHO WOULD GOVERN THE NEW COUNTRY, CHETNIKS WANTED GREATER SERBIA, TITO WANTED YUGOSLAVIA
fucking idiot if you're not trolling then you're literally fucking retarded
Calm down you autist. What part of Yugoslavia was created by the Serbs as Greater Serbia dont you understand? Reread what i wrote >>53246379
I know, try explaining that to the brain dead pan slavist
YOU FUCKING IDIOT
FUCKING KILL YOURSELF
YOU FUCKING RETARD
PIECE OF SHIT
WHAT PART OF THE GOVERNMENT OF YUGOSLAVIA CHANGED BETWEEN 1918 AND 1945 DONT YOU UNDERSTAND RETARD
IT SWITCHED FROM THE SERBIAN-CENTRIC CHETNIKS TO THE PAN-SLAVISITIC YUGOSLAV POLITICS OF TITO'S PARTISANS, WHO BEAT THE CHETNIKS
you are far worse than any antichki, kill yourself
For me no.
Sorry but no. If that was the case why were the expelled Serbs from Kosovo forbidden from returning there immediately after WWII? Making Kosovo and Vojvodina autonomous provinces? The separate Montenegro identity?
>fatshit autistic Ustashe Fredi
I am not familiar with shit srbian memes.
Serbia was actually gutted from the very start of SFRJ.
And was only getting more and more gutted in political influence and power. First by creating Bosnia (instead of splitting it) and Montenegro as republics
From 1945 to 1989 Serbia was giving out more and more concessions to Croats.
Perhaps the biggest one was the 1974 constitution of Serbia that doomed Yugoslavia.
It basically took away both Kosovo and Vojvodina in all but name.
>there are actual idiots who believe SFRJ served serbia's interests, or the interests of any one country in it
>Serbia was actually gutted from the very start of SFRJ.
And what would happen if Serbia was not gutted by Yugoslavia? Would it reach all the way to Tokyo?
More or less true.
"Weak Serbia, strong Yugoslavia" as it was.
The problem when the Serb chimpout happened in the fallout was that everyone wanted to get away with the biggest share made possible in the first place by the existence of Yugoslavia but at the same time wanted to kill it i.e. no Yugoslavia and weak Serbia after it.
yugoslavia was organized particularly in a way that would weaken serbia the most.
after ww2, serbs were the most numerous nationalities in bosnia, montenegro and vojvodina. and guess what happened. we had to kiss goodbye to both bosnia and montenegro, and let vojvodina become an autonomous province, basically a state, even though it had an overwhelming serbian majority.
plus the serbs were banned from returning to kosovo.
so, in a nation with a 45% serbian population, only like 30% of the territory was de facto serbian administered in the full.
why didn't they form autonomous regions in >50% serb populated areas of croatia, when a 20% hungarian minority in vojvodina was enough for the commies to make one third of serbia an autonomous province administered independently from belgrade
pretty much this
ultimately Milosevic is a big reason for the war, but it wasn't the catalyst, and Tito's death is ultimately what brought the destruction of Yugo, without Tito there was no leader strong enough to carry on the mantle, and not to mention the country was in a shitload of debt from cold war, from sucking money from both superpowers
Did you not read the full post?
I didn't say anything about anyone else's interests. The concessions were so that Croats wouldn't feel like it's a Serb state.
I don't think you've read the whole thing.
One we would have better infrastructure and industry. Only industry ever built in Serbia was for military purpose, not for any economic benefit, while look who got the shiny nuclear power plant, and the electronics, home appliances, things that make money?
The only infrastructure built was the Beograd-Bar railroad, and even that took some secret service extortion to get, and maybe you could count the Novi Beograd commieblocks.
We're not talking about nationalist claims. And dead civilians have nothing to do with what i'm saying.
milosevic was an incompetent fuck who didn't even realize what was happening. the country was completely out of anyone's control. when you have 40% radicals in the parliament that show up to the sessions with guns, how the fuck are you supposed to run a country.
the problem was that throughout yugoslavia, common people of all nationalities chimped out, and serbs got labeled the bad guys and had everyone turn against them because the serbian interests confronted with the western ones the most
>poles alienated themselves by becoming NATO puppets
yes, I'm sure Russia partitioning them over and over throughout history had absolutely nothing to do with it
Guys, you were gifted a mini-empire in order to keep us down, and you blew it. You are trying to deal with the loss by sucking Russian dick. Don't expect me to start respecting you.
I'd say what the USSR did was more of a reason than the Russian empire.
Our history only true history. Everything else is lies, propaganda and world conspiracy to eradicate the holy Macedonian land and people.
>you were gifted a mini-empire in order to keep us down
THEY UNIRONICALLY GAVE YOU SEA ACCESS
TOP KEK AT YOUR STUPIDNESS
the territory of modern day macedonia was liberated by the serbian army after the battles of kumanovo and bitola
i mean, that's a fact
sure, bulgaria did invest around 50% more troops in the war and did have around 50% more dead, but you guys mostly fought the turks that were incoming from asia, while we ended up dealing with the turkish armies in macedonia and albania
>he thinks Yugoslavia was created to keep the mighty Bulgarians down
surely no one is this retarded?
you were offered to join even and you were about to accept, but papa Stalin got into argument with Tito and he said no, and Bulgaria had to listen
If you think using actions committed in the early 17th century to justify partitioning a country (and collaboration with the fucking NAZIS, to boot) in 1939 is somehow comparable to Poland's actions today, then you're simply deluded.
Russia in the 20th century was literally the definition of "evil", especially during the 1950's. During the 90's they finally started acting like humans, but now that's long gone.
>Calling me a meme while this is the definiton of maymay
Forget it Tatar, the only sea you will see is the one where the rest of the Balkan brotherhood will drown your pathetic nation
doesn't change the fact that you were a Russian puppet politically at time (because of that) and because of that you had to listen to Stalin when he said you couldn't join because he too was scared of the might of a unified Yugoslavia, otherwise you would have, point is Bulgaria was completely irrelevant for Yugoslavia, except maybe as a possible entry point for a Soviet invasion
Furthermore, Bulgarian army was thrown against German machine guns, near Skopje the entire paratrooper division was made to land *in front" of a heavily defended position, where they were promptly shot to pieces.
you're the definition of an american drone
>hurrdurr evil russians innocent liberating americans xDDDDD
tell me what do you think of brutal genocidal dictators such as Pinochet who were supported by USA just because the alternative was some commie leader?
The first partitions were caused by that. The 1939 partition was caused by the Polish invasion of the RSFSR during the Russian civil war .
But Polan is good guy who never didn't anything wrong ey diaspora?
I never at all said the USA didn't also do some evil shit. But frankly, the USA did far less damage to Chile (which, today, is better than most of Latin America) than Russia did to all of Eastern Europe.
>During the 90's they finally started acting like humans
>the worst time for Russia in modern history
Is it a coincidence that everyone who hates Russia sees the 90's as the best time of theirs?
you think Pinochet has something to do with Chile's success? lol, don't bullshit, USA are JUST as evil as the USSR were, if not more, USSR didn't nuke 2 cities filled with civilians, or experiment with new drugs on it's own people, or install dictators all over the world, who usually ended up being genocidal maniacs, simply because they were opposed to commies ( or pretended to be )
you want an example of a country fucked up by USA?
the entire middle east except the saudi-shits which they work together with
>Is it a coincidence that everyone who hates Russia sees the 90's as the best time of theirs?
let me put it this way:
If you were to observe the evolution of an infectuous disease such as tuberculosis, I'm sure you would agree that whatever decade that disease were the most dormant and ineffective in its history, would also be pretty much the best decade.
Ukraine =! RSFSR
And most importantly, if you really think that expanding some borders (which were already unstable as fuck given the context) is the same as LITERALLY collaborating with fucking NAZIS to completely partition a country (and then ruin that same country for the next 50 fucking years), then I'm sorry but your delusion has pretty much reached the status of mental illness.
>install dictators ... genocidal maniacs
>on it's own people
I know you're talking about the cold war period, and i do agree with you that USA is also evil, but i have to bring up Holodomor.
>saudi-shits which they work together with
saudis still have massive societal issues, even with so much money poured into them, so why did they have to pick the shittiest country in the ME?
Atleast Iran doesn't fund Wahhabists.
you're kidding me right? US and Saudis are the closest of allies in the middle east, they fuckin' launch their aircraft to Afghanistan from Saudi Arabia/Qatar, its true that Saudi are full on wahhabis and fund islamists all over the world, but it doesn't matter, they can play politics, and they're valuable US allies in the region, even though they destabilize it
And here we go again, minimizing Poland's role and blame while blaming the Russians for everything. You know what , fuck you and everyone that lives in your house.
>US and Saudis are the closest of allies in the middle east
Yup, but why did it have to be these guys?
Everyone else is at least partially sane.
>even though they destabilize it
>implying that's not what US wants;
God, America's retarded realpolitik is gonna fuck us SO hard one day.
It's already used as fodder by jihadists and neo-commies.
yeah, clearly Russia dindu nuffin and every single country on Earth, from USA to Poland to fucking Kiribati, is just as evil as Russia!
In fact, those countries are even more evil than Russia! Because they're degenerate decadents with degenerate concepts like "human rights" and "peace", and every single one of them is a fascist (even though it's Russia who actually collaborated with the Nazis in 1939...but who cares about facts, amirite??).
he meant they were the good guys,are you stupid?