Polish intellectuals condemn CIA prison complicity

>Polish intellectuals

seriously though, nothing will be done because of this

>>53180447
>Polish intellectuals

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>>53180447
>Polish intellectuals

>>53180447
not this shit again

Anyone seen Essential Killing where Vincent Gallo played a Taliban escaped in Poland? The news is old, but it's a positive change to see Poles standing up to America for a change.

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>>53180447
>Polish intellectuals

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>>53180447
>Polish intellectuals

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>>53180928

Tradition goes a long way

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>polish intellectuals

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>Polish intellectuals

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>polish intellectuals

WE WUSH INTELLECTUALSH AND SHEESH

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>>53180447
>Polish intellectuals

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>polish intellectuals

Most of ethnical Polish intellectuals was killed in such actions like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_AB-Aktion_in_Poland

The rest was eliminated by Russians.

The only intellectuals we have today are children and grandchildren of Jewish-Polish communists who ruled this country after 1945.

If i were you, i wouldnt laugh at their intellectual abilities so hard, because this percent of them who were kicked out from Poland in 1968, helped to installed multikulti in your countries, probably against your will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7JkI8cYT0w

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>>53181552
La tradición es importante

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>polish intellectuals

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>>53182455
>butthurt

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>>53180447
Polish intellectuals gonna repeat their history.

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>>53182392
Let me get that for you, familia.

>be polish intellectual
>get shot

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>>53182498

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>>53182498

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>>53182770

>>53182770
>>53182815
>both nazis and russians kill the polish elite
>poland is still better than Russia

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>>53182815
>Poland
>IQ League

>>53182911
That watermark really ruined it

>>53182961
I think the flag ruined it, family.

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>>53182521
Gracias. Esta imagen rara de Kate yo te doy

If our country wasn't destroyed for 123 years of Russian-German occupation, total wars annihilating 30% of our population (and over 80% of upper class), 45 years of communism, we would be today the richest country in Europe. Because we are as smart as Germans.

Today we still struggle in circumstances of total domination of Western corporations and capital over our economy, which slows down and deprives economical and social growth of our country. But nothing lasts forever. Russia is weak and vulnerable today, maybe some day we will be able to say the same about our Western oppresors

>>53182770
This shows we must be the smartest without Asians and Caucasians. Literally a masterrace.

>>53183059
We will never be a country again.

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>Polish intellectuals

>>53183247

But we can enjoy their pain and deterioration of life standard at least.

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>>53180447
>Polish intellectuals

>Polish intellectuals

>>53183036
Thanks m8. I'll treasure it.

It's okay polan, you'll always have Marie curie

>>53180447
Huh,interesting.

>>53185373
Kopernik, Heveliusz, etc etc etc

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Poland is cutest country

>>53182769

>Portudumb

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>>53185373
>French scientist from Russian Empire

>>53185579
Actually only koPiernik :DD

>>53185929
where is proofs

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>>53182856
>Polish elite
>10000 ppl in total
>30 millions country

Yep, this is Poland

>>53185929
>Actually only koPiernik :DD
Heweliusz was a Pole though.

Also, most inteligentsia and elites in Russian Empire were Poles from the Commonwealth, since Russia killed their own elites since 1400

>>53186185
Why are you even speaking to me, weird eastern creature.

>>53186186
>Also, most inteligentsia and elites in Russian Empire were Poles from the Commonwealth

Smells like another local Polish meme to me :^)

Also, most of the Polish elite were Germans, since Polish had tails and lived on the trees till late1800s

>>53186238
Temu że jestem nadczłowiekiem w porównaniu do Polaka :^) Pamiętaj ze cały wasz naród był naszymi kundlami przez kilkaset lat.

>>53186299
I love how facts are always memes, to you mongols.

You couldn't even create your own country. You were the conquered people. Others had to create your country for you.

I like polish people a lot the ones ive met are all decent enough people

>>53186433
This is funny to see scared butthurting Poles everytime they see Russian flag in the thread.
No one is even interested in little Poland here.
I love my country :^)

>>53186702
Ok, why are you telling me this though?

It's always russians coming to threads about Poland like a little whore, bitching for attention.

>>53186433
Remember that the Soviet Government gave independence to your country after collapse of old Russian Empire. We always had to do the job you could not finish by your primitive brains :^)

>>53186975
>Remember that the Soviet Government gave independence to your country after collapse of old Russian Empire
Is this what they teach in Russian history books?

It was the German Empire and Austria-Hungary first. They lost the war and so did Russia, so we got ourselves independence from all three countries. We kicked out the Russians in 1920.

>>53186766
None of the flags cited by >>53182498 is Russian :^) Poland is of lyings again

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>>53186975
>>53187048
>Russia will never prosper because "da west is ebil praise pootin"
>They're jelly as fuck about Poland because things are getting better there after their westernisation

>>53187046
No, this is the historical facts. Yes, we study it in school.
Soviets recognised Poland as independent state on 17th of December in 1917 (not in 1920 as you wrote).
If Soviets wanted, they could occupy you again without any problems :^)

>>53187207
>If Soviets wanted, they could occupy you again without any problems :^)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Warsaw_(1920)

You did have problems though. You got assraped by us. And then you cries for Germany's help, like you always do. Typical Russian tactic, can't win against their older brother, so they have to call other kids to outnumber him.

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>>53187153
>things are getting better there after their westernisation
Actually Poland is one of the few examples of how things are getting beter after "westernisation".
Look at Baltic states, Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania, Greece, Czechoslovakia etc

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Also, what I find funny is that a country that appeared after a huge time gap on the map, with poor parts like galicia, western belarus and only good parts that were german had almost the same gdp as Russia which was 1000000 times bigger than Poland, with more resources, wasn't the battlefield for WW1 and wasn't partitioned.

How the fuck does that even happen?
Are Russians really that much inferior?

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>>53187356
Daily reminder that Poland > Russia any day

jebać ruskie kurwy

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>>53187308
The fact there was Soviet-Polish war does not deny the fact that that was the Soviet government among first in the world who recognised independent Polish state.

But "hurr durr evil Russkies" brainwashed Polish people will never understand this simple fact :^)

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>>53180447
>Polish intellectuals

>>53187623
>ruskie
rosyjskie*
>>53187630
You got obliterated in the war with us, of course you had to accept us as a sovereign state.

>>53187630
Also you had civil war after WW1.

It's really sad the Whites didn't win.

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>Polish intellectuals

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>>53187356
They all look like they're doing great though

>>53187532
>Accepting the fact only Germanised parts of Poland were good for living
>claiming others inferior
>being inferior fitself or the whole history
Your map shows we were better than you in both 1938 and 2016 (considering double devalvation of Rouble which will recover and adjust).

>>53187660

Nie zapominaj ziomeczku, że w walkach z twoim chujowym kraikem Polską brała udział tylko garstka sił bolszewickich. Prowadzili w tym samym czasie walki na kilku frontach i każdy był ważniejszy niż twoje burackie państwo. Doucz się historii zanim zaczniesz pisać brednie jak typowy polski smieć. I nie fatyguj się odpisywać pajacu bo ja mam rację a ty nie.

pozdrawiam, Niemiec z Opola

>>53187711
This.

>tfw Russia could have become civilized like rest of Europe did

Instead now we have Russians who unironically laugh and celebrate murder of educated people.

>>53187711
Whites were monarchists and they were against Polish/Finnish independence.
Not sure their win would be good for your country.

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>Polish intellectuals

>>53182455
how the fuck did you get this image?

>>53180712
I've seen it

Terrific film imo

>>53187821
Yes.

Russia is a bigger country with more resources and has almost the same gdp as Poland. Patethic.
>>53187845
O czym ty pierdolisz, "Niemcu"?

Najważniejsze było zdeptanie Polski i pójście na zachód, ty durna niedouczona kurwo. Albo naucz sie lepiej nęcić albo wypierdalaj i zostaw to lepszym.

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>>53187660
>You got obliterated in the war with us
>war is of 1920
>sovereign state was accepted in 1917

Polond, stop making me laugh

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>>53187872
Yep, they were the heroes.
>>53187873
Doesn't matter. At least they wouldn't murder Poles like Bolsheviks did.

>>53187970
>sovereign state was accepted in 1917
We didn't need any Russian acceptance, you weren't a threat to us.

>>53187845

W szczytowych momentach sowieci do walki z Polską rzucili 50% wszystkich swoich sił Lenin chciał koniecznie wspomóc rewolucję w Niemczech (którą zdławiło Freikorps)

>>53187356
"czechoslovakia" is doing okay, thanks for asking

Not having Ivans on our soil is doing wonders to our country

>>53188076
Tak jak mówiłem, podbicie Polski było kluczowe, żeby pójsc dalej.

Jakby przeszli po Polsce to byłby koniec dla zachodu, tym bardziej biorąc pod uwage jak silne byly komunistyczne partie w UK, Francji i Niemczech.

>>53187872
>Russia could have become civilized like rest of Europe did

If being civilized means being slowly rotting due to arabisation and low locals fertility rate then no. Better to stay as we are.
Dont forget in soviet times 25% of world engineers were working in Soviet Union. It was far more civilized than the whole eastern europe nowadays. You are agricultural states who does all dirty jobs all around western europe.

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>>53188165
>Soviet Union
>civilized
[SEE MORE MEMES, CLICK HERE]

>>53188015
Bolsheviks did not do anything bad to your state. Just few crimes in a couple of decade. Most of the time you were on your own.

>>53180447

I stand with Polish intelectuals and I hope Dabrowski straffe England.

>>53187817
>public debt is an significant indicator

>>53188227
>Bolsheviks did not do anything bad to your state
>Just few crimes in a couple of decade
Russian intellectuals.

>>53188251

England straffening is 100% unavoidable but it will not be us doing it. Rather the desert lads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_lPVJLABvo

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>>53188205
Guess how he got there, buraku :^)

>>53188084
I wonder if there's been any other example in history, when more backward country colonised the more advanced one, like it was in the subjugation of Central Europe by the USSR

Why does Russian influence equal corruption and lagging behind?

>>53188306
Why would I care, jebany kretynie.

>>53188314
Mongols and Kievan Rus.

>>53188143

to akurat mit. Socialisci byli silni w Niemczech i w mniejszym stopniu we Francji, ale Francuscy socjalisci to w zdecydowanej większosci popeliny w rodzaju Sartre'a (dzisiejsza zbuntowana młodzież w rurkach). Rewolucja zostałaby zdławiona.

Just look at Moldova and Ukraine if you want to see effects of Russian influence. And check the HIV/AIDS rates in Eastern Europe. We are indeed untermenschen but kacaps are some sort of super shit untermenschen. They are cattle who was always ruled by foreigners, and they turn everything to dystopian shit.

>>53188412
Not to mention their penchant for strongmen and siege mentality

They love to be treated like shit like an abused woman

>>53188412
>>53188412

No you fuckwit. Russians are the victims of being ruled by foreginers that see them as untermenshen. When Russians will shake up and embrace democracy they will be finally free of their burden and with them all of eastern europe will be free of the Russian menace

>>53188076
First of all, 50% of the bolsheviks army is just not true.
Second, bolsheviks army consisted mostly of stupid peasants who tried to revenge against "imperialists", while the real officers were busy fighting in WW1 and then being prosecuted on their own land.

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>>53180447
>Polish intellectuals

>>53188819

DUDE TAKBIR LMAO

>>53188412
Actually Russia was never ruled by non-Russians.
If you mean kings, they were treating themselves as 100% Russians in their memoires. Converting to Orthodox and changing name to Russian was obligatory to enter our elite. Just dynasty marriage was a kind of normal in those days. Check your own kings like Stephen Báthory who even could not speak Polish. Or British/Dutch/whatever royals who were just a mix of different nations.

>>53188872
Poland was created by a Pole.

Russia was created by a Russian ?????? Heh, not really.

>>53188872

Catherine the Great was 100% German

>>53188165
>arabisation and low fertility rates
If you think that's what would have happened.
>25% of world engineers were working in soviet union
that's not really a measure of civilization, especially that soviet technology still ended up outpaced and reliant on stolen tech to a large degree. That's not to say you didn't have many brilliant scientists and engineers, if even to be able to interpret and modify the tech on relatively short notice or to come up with your own inventions. At the end of the day though the planned economy turned out to be much less effective and efficient than market ones, and required shit system of governance that had nothing to do with working class. Stifling initiative and independent thinking also hurt it badly.

I wonder how a less rigid system, directed more by genuine interest in common good over desire to retain power, system that would allow new ideas to challenge old ones without fear of getting smothered by bureacracy or old farts frightened of being replaced, would fare.

>you are agricultural states
you don't know as much as you seem to think you do, lad.

>>53188306
In a vehicle designed by a hohol :^)

>>53188412
Actually Ukraine in Soviet times was much wealthier than nowadays with their new "pro europenean" goverment.
Every time EU/US trying make a "democratic" color revolution they turn country into a deep shit. Look at Iraq, Ukraine, Lebanon, Syria etc

>>53188976
Who were choosen as a good wife-candidate due to political situation of thoose time. Then raised in Russia in Russian traditions. Actually that was her who were considering herself 100% Russian in her own memories.
Also, she was one of the worst kings in terms of civil rights. it says a lot about backwarded Europenean culture of thoose times.

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>Polish intellectuals

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>>53189018
Gee I fucking wonder why that is, probably not because your country is actively destabilizing and waging war against it or anything.
Get fucked Ivan

>>53188917
Yes, it was. Read about Novgorod, Pskov republic, Vladimir-Suzdal republic and so on.
All were founded by proto-slavic tribes who later became Russians as we known today. And conquested all these tribes which are known as Baltic/Finland/Poland countries nowadays :^)

>>53189350
Sure not because europe organised another military coup and failed. Compare Ukranian GDP before and after western-supported revolution in 2014 and feel the result of westernisation.

>>53189018
>Actually Ukraine in Soviet times was much wealthier than nowadays with their new "pro europenean" goverment.
It's pretty dishonest to pretend that Ukraine is shit now because it has pro-EU government and not because it has to deal with Russians (and occasional chechen) deliberately fucking the place up.

If you wanted to be honest you would compare development of Poland and Ukraine after soviet union collapsed: Poland decided to go towards EU accession while Ukraine chose to keep its ties with Russia. Poland had (and to some extent still has, just like we do) problems with ex-security people having strong positions in business and politics, but the overall development went elsewhere.
Perhaps with us it was just to keep up appearances before EU institutions, but in Ukraine there was literally nothing to keep this kind of people in check.

>>53189263

>Dutch heterosexuals

>>53189431
They aren't westernized nor EU members yet because they're in a war with you.
If the country gets more stable and peaceful then it can begin to grow.
Ukraine is fucked because of russian backed terrorists and russian invasion.

>>53188999
>that's not really a measure of civilization
GDP or minimal wage is not a measure of civilization neither.
Also murrican technologies are reliant on stolen german tech to a large degree. Even nowadays they continue to import engineers from all over the world.
As well as GDP of western countries relies on their colonial robbing of the whole world back to 1600s and their huge debts in 2016.

>>53189516
>they're in a war with you.
We don't even know they are figthing with us :^)
If they were, they would be defeated already.
They are in war with their own civils who dont accept new puppet government. And few "volunteers" from Russia, who are appearently enough to almost defeat all Ukranian army :^)

>>53189562
>GDP or minimal wage is not a measure of civilization neither.
I agree, it's not. Although it's much easier to have high GDP and wage if you've got decent civilisation, and if you look at countries with high GDP per capita without having something that would pass for civilized society, you'll see that they get their GDP from trading away their resources to the developed countries.
>Also murrican technologies are reliant on stolen german tech to a large degree. Even nowadays they continue to import engineers from all over the world.
Well, it's true a lot of engineers and scientists will go there because they have better access to money there. But their system does allow those engineers and scientists excel and profit from their work.
>As well as GDP of western countries relies on their colonial robbing of the whole world back to 1600s and their huge debts in 2016.
You're right that colonialism and leeching resources from rest of the world helped prop western countries up, but it's their use of those resources that allowed it to stay relevant and advance. Today the trade retains some signs of colonial exploitation in that it still has resources funneling to the more powerful (richer) countries, and pushes poorer countries to offer cheap labour. However it also allows these countries to develop using compensation they now get for their resources. Some of the countries are handling this better than others.

As for debt, well importance of debt is overrated. It's not a good thing to allow it to grow this huge, but it's not the disaster it's played out to be.

>>53189722
Are you seriously still denying Russian military involvement in Ukraine?
It's been proven several times, fucking google it.

>>53189353
>And conquested all these tribes which are known as Baltic/Finland/Poland countries nowadays :
Poland is older than Russia though.

And tribes that created Poland predate Roman Empire.

>>53190103
You would be surprised, but many asians consider themselves much more civilized than your country. And Russia by itself had recent impact on humanity developmuch bigger than half of the Europe.
It's just a question of the last decades we've been recovering from communism.
Modern europeneans could not reach Roman Empire level (which modern europeneans actually destroyed) for almost one thousand years. And when you reached you brought slavery, fascism, communism and other shit into this world.
You're not the one who can teach us how to be civilised :^) Even in Soviet Union women got vote right way before many EU countries, not saying that we've never had segregation laws like US till 1960s

>>53190304
>It's been proven several times
Oh really. I saw some fake stories and photoshops.
If Russia really invaded, then why Deutchen has to fake stories and not just show us facts and tanks and real troops?

https://www.rt.com/news/326902-germany-fake-documentary-ukraine/

I can google US invasion to Iraq and find a lot of information. Way more than about "Russian invasion" to Ukraine.

>>53190503
Mongolia is older than Poland though.

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>>53180447
>Polish intellectuals

>>53190804
So you're finally admitting your mongol heritage?

>>53190735
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/the-number-of-russian-troops-killed-or-injured-fighting-in-ukraine-seems-to-have-been-accidentally-10472603.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2015/09/02/if-russian-soldiers-arent-dying-in-ukraine-why-did-putin-make-casualty-stats-a-state-secret/

https://news.vice.com/video/selfie-soldiers-russia-checks-in-to-ukraine

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34388864

All of them fake western propoganda blyat )))))

>>53190812

flag stealer pls go away
Lee Kuan Jew raped little children

>>53187308
This was after almost ten years of battle on multiple fronts, not impressive

>>53190610
Well, I hope you will finally recover soon to the point where you can actually say you are civilised now and not have to resort to saying that you used to be, once. Egypt could say the same.

Also
>soviet union
>voting
Come on.

>>53191163
Oh yeah, the country that just apparead on the map wining against one of the "empires" is not impressive at all.

Fuck off burger.

>>53190971
I'm admitting polish inferiority to mongols.

>>53190610
Czechoslovakia had female suffrage right from the beginning too

It's kind of entertaing seeing Russians with superiority complex

The more backward shithole a country is, the prouder its people feel

>>53190979
Basically this proves there are some special groups of Russian forces operating. No one denies it. And they are fighting the whole Ukranian army.
Do you really think few thousands of Russians can hold against an army? Thanks for the compliment :^)
Next time come here with real proofs of tank groups/aircrafts or other things which usually taken as army invasion.

>>53191290
Depends what you mean saying "civilised".
I've been to Greece and Turkey recently. They both look less civilised to me. One of those countries is EU member, another one is EU candidate. Come on :^)

>Come on.
Check how europenean or american system of those times looked like. Inb4: segregation non-whites, colonies, fascism.

>>53191648
There's been whole Russian tank groups fighting on behalf of rebels and then just pull back

This happens whenever separatists are routed by Ukrainian counter-offensive

Putin is going to reheat Ukrainian frozen conflict if he wants to apply political pressure

>>53191532
Dat because Czechoslovakia appeared on the world map when everyone had suffrage right already :^)

>>53191812
Here is the proofs

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2015/09/22/russias-6th-tank-brigade/

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>>53191812
>There's been whole Russian tank groups fighting

Show me.

>>53191842
1918

One year after your revolution

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>Polish intellectuals

>>53191893
>https://www.bellingcat.com
>posted by ukranian user https://www.bellingcat.com/author/askai707/
>originally posted in free blog service

Really you're bying it. Next time bring here some serious information. Maybe OSCE observers who are there all the time.

>>53191928
So you're saying you were after us :^) I totally agree with you, my backwarded friend.

>>53192002
All information is open source

You check it by yourself

Or this investigation Vice News, also using social media

https://news.vice.com/article/russia-denies-that-its-soldiers-are-in-ukraine-but-we-tracked-one-there-using-his-selfies

>Polish intellectuals

>>53182770
I eat rock brekfust yum yum :)))))

>>53183059
>we are as smart as germans
No
No
No
...
No
The reason we fucked you up was because we were brilliant while poland is the working class country. Maybe you're intelligent but more practically and cleverly driven, not geniusly or creatively.

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>>53192125
Ok, vice and free blogging services.
That a good proof, my friend! These 2 stories are circulating all around for 1.5 years already. Very strong evidence of army invasion in the center of the Europe :^)

Now come closer to your monitor to see how real proof and real army invasion looks like.

>>53192360
The only reason Prussia existed is because we allowed it.

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>>53192487
You forgot your picture, ziomek

>>53192628
That's Muscovy getting assraped though :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>Polish intellectuals

hadn't seen this meme in a while

>>53182769
>>53182770
>tfw "no" qt intelligent Polish gf
Why bother living?...;_;

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>>53192890
>women
>inteligent

>>53192958
>Hans has located the target of his greatest joy: shit from the anus of a woman

>>53194025
wow rude