Is Canada truly as cuckolded as /pol/ and /int/ memes say or is it actually pretty good?
I honestly feel as though it's not nearly as bad as people say.
>Safe place to live, ~500 murders per year and most relevant cities aren't even in the top 50 for violent crime
>Strict immigration policy requires a masters degree, extensive work history or money to immigrate
>Reasonably good Universities that are modest in price
>Lots of food
>Decent healthcare although very slow if you're not dying but it's tolerable I guess...
>Immigrants are many but they are very calm and don't cause problems(except for some)
>No nigger culture like in the US where they blame whitey for everything and kill any white people walking at night in the "wrong hood yo"
>No school shootings
>Only 1 or 2 terrorist attacks that weren't even that bad
>Pretty high salaries(not as good as US but decent on a global level)
>Diverse cities in terms of activities, something for everyone
I mean I guess the refugee, Trudeau and feminism situation is pretty bad and getting out of control but all things taken into account it's like a drop in the bucket and really doesn't affect life significantly IMO.
Thoughts of Canadians/non-Canadians on Canada?
fuck off with this autism and get outside more
it sucks here but really I've lived in Europe and they have it far worse
our worse issues are largely subtle cultural ones rather than over violence, crime or social breakdown.
Canada is literally the perfect country.
People hate it on 4chan because there's no actual reason go hate it, if that makes sense.
It's like people hating that one kid in school who's nice to everybody and gets good grades.
So likeable that it makes you hate him
desu even going all around Toronto to the most brown areas I've never felt unsafe or terribly unwelcome.
I'm more worried about the government rolling back our freedoms and breaking down out culture in favor of some soulless society of liberal cosmopolitan clones.
>desu even going all around Toronto to the most brown areas I've never felt unsafe or terribly unwelcome.
I think it has to do with how spoiled we are really.
In Canada you pretty much never have to worry about excessive scammers, pickpockets, car getting stolen, getting robbed, attacked, etc. So whenever some retard meets some crazy guy at a gas station at 4 am and gets stabbed we treat it as the most horrible thing when that happens every 15 mins in some parts of the world.
because weedminister trudeau is captain of the bone zone. everyone knows who he is, and if you say that you've shook his hand you're 115% hotter as far as foreign qts are concerned.
JUST Trudeau is going to be riding this country right into the gutter. We are in the perfect storm and the last pillar of our economy is about to crumple. The mortgage rates are creeping higher and everyone is leveraged up to there eyeballs. Interest rates are going to kneecap us and all desposable income will go towards servicing the house debt. All middle aged people will get double pinched when mom and dad start to have failing health. Healthcare is chronically mismanaged and improperly funded.
If you have skills, start looking for ways to work in America.
I might live in some cozy Mexico beach town until it blows over.
Btw why aren't you putting all your money into VFV and then cashing it out when CAD bottoms out?
>Mfw going to make several thousand doing nothing thanks to cuckadian dollar getting rekt
In real life Canada is a heavyweight contender for "best all around country on earth." Countries like the Nordics, Australia, and Canada consistently rank in the top 10 of every positive meyric possible. At that point picking the "best" country comes down to what types of language, food, weather, and sports you like best.
In /int/ Canada is highly bantable Tbh. Probably for the same reason you are such a great country in real life; Canada is basically the oerfect blend of the old world and the new; half Euro and half American with your iwn littke maple twist. Makes for a great place to live but also a place that can get shit on by both worlds.
Doesn't help that Canada and Australia are basically the same country but with vastly diffetent climate, flora, and fauna. Sort of twins, one who likes cold, the other hot. You guys should be the best if friends, dominating your respective regions as the Commonwealth powerhouses in your hemispheres, instead Aussies just fuck your shit up routinely.
>everyone knows a couple left wingers, but it's not thrown in your face
>everyone outside of Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal and Ottowa are fairly conservative
>Indian people are rarely in your face and are generally rather courteous when talking to whites, remember they come from a country with a racial caste system still existing
>although chinese are in large populations in the west, they aren't the types to infiltrate white communities, they mostly just stick together and are just run shops, similar to indians
>the only annoying thing is indians, chinese, and jamaicans is they can be loud at times, but mostly just in highly concentrated areas of their ethnicity
>the only ones to cause real problems with crimes are the jamaicans, and that is still fairly controlled, hasn't really left the main cities at all
>white population still higher than UK and US (no, amernicans, hispanics are not white)
>the most noticable religion in the Toronto area is the amount of greek and slavic orthodox churches, especially so in Brampton and Hamilton, and they're really nice looking
>east coast (Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, New Brunswick (kinda), PEI) = whitey haven, Newfoundland is still 94% white and 91% christian for example
tl;dr - we have minorities, but there is very little culture clash, and liberal presence isn't huge
I lived in both France and Canada and this place is far more cucked. White are a minority there are chinks and arabs everywhere, they don't respect shit. No one is celebrating traditional Canadian holidays or ceremonies, Canadian culture is now centered around south-east asian stuff like Diwali
The only reason people in this thread are saying otherwise is because they are part of it. You can add "t. Mohamed" or "t. Zu Wang Chink" after each of the post saying the contrary.
>When I was in Toronto I've seen more Muslims then I ever have in my entire life and I live in a place that's 20% Arab so that should tell you everything you need to know
And what's so bad about that? I mean yeah it's undesirable but it's not like they blow shit up like in nearly every other country with such high muslim populations.
The rest of Canada wasn't like that, just Toronto. At one point I was at a tourist attraction and literally every person but me was Muslim. Here we keep our Muslims in their own shitty villages so I see maybe 1-5 a day. I also heard Toronto has the most Muslims in the Americas.
desu, we didnt just get our capital city thrown into marshall law because muslim nutters went on a shooting spree
According to the UN, et al., Toronto is the world's most cultutally diverse city, although I doubt it somewhat, seems like Dubai or Istanbul should actually hold that title. Still, Toronto us super mixed up. Having said that, it is statistically safer and cleaner than any North American city of comparable size.
>White are a minority there are chinks and arabs everywhere
>No one is celebrating traditional Canadian holidays or ceremonies, Canadian culture is now centered around south-east asian stuff like Diwali
True, there isn't really any Canadian culture but it's not a big deal tbqh.
Yeah it's not like terrorists keep killing people and raping all the women.
I clearly said "Yeah it's undesirable".
But look at it compared to any other country with such a high percent of Muslims, it's a fucking shithole. Whereas here we have a lot of Muslims yet terrorism is nearly non-existent.
Burkas everywhere, rude loud people, intolerant to Jews (as one I can't really ignore it), smell bad, and the family I visited said crime has skyrocketed since Muslims came. When I go to Canada I don't want to be in Pakistan.
im just saying there's glaring evidence to the contrary of you saying canucks are more cucked than France
the last muslim shooting in Canada took down one lad before a 70 yo Canadian politician shot him down james bond style
It depends on very large part on where in Canada you are. Find a single Maritimer who even knows what Diwali is and who doesn't weep and clutch their QEII locket necklace at the sound of bagpipes on Canada Day.
>Whereas here we have a lot of Muslims yet terrorism is nearly non-existent
We have half the Muslim community Germany has and got to pick the upper middle class one while they don't. It's true that our model is working well, but let's not forget that we aren't playing on "hard mode".
No not really. It's not that common, most people who come here from Islamabad wear Western clothes and stop being muslim cucks.
>rude loud people,
That's every major city. Are you going to tell me Tel Aviv is not rude and loud as well?
>intolerant to Jews (as one I can't really ignore it)
What does being tolerant mean? No one is ripping off your kippah and grabbing you by the nose. There is many Jewish areas in Toronto.
Uhh not sure how to respond to this.
>and the family I visited said crime has skyrocketed since Muslims came
That's just a meme.
Toronto isn't even in the top 50 cities in Canada for violent crime.
>400 years sharing a border with us
>this includes cities like Detroit
>only "strict" border control post 9/11
>even that consists of a few understaffed checkpoints along the world's largest border
>still remarkably safer and whiter than we are
I would say you are winning the game on intermediate at least
I mean there was Indians and Vietnamese people everywhere too and many smaller groups but none as noticeable right away as the Muslims. I'm telling you even the Muslims around me aren't all as covered up as the ones I saw there. In some areas id literally only see Muslims.
Give it time. Arab Israelis used to be chill too while Muslims from the Palestinian Territories were the ones chimping out. Only a few years later their population grew and they go out stabbing people in the streets. They have the highest quality of life here Muslims have outside of maybe UAE, they go to put colleges and get free medical service too and still they choose to be terrorist.
We are more cucked because we accomodate every single desire those subhumans have whereas the French don't give a damn and protect their culture.
You don't quantify cuckoldry based on the number of terrorist attacks, that's fucking idiotic. If anything, the fact that the French were attacked prove that they matters and are ready to fight for their lifestyle.
Not to mention that there was a crapload of terrorist attacks attempted on Canadian soil and who were stopped last minute. We got lucky
>We have half the Muslim community Germany has and got to pick the upper middle class one while they don't.
That's what I mean. Our immigration system is actually pretty good, we're taking the best from Islamabad and Beijing instead of random streetshitters and violent criminals.
Meanwhile in Europe they have millions of undocumented ones just running around raping people and stockpiling weapons.
Basically what I'm saying is that Yes, Canada is NOT perfect by any means and has many flaws but it is still much much better than almost all of the alternatives.
See map >>53162800
There are still some pockets of Canada remaining, problem is they're so fucking poor and desperate for a handout that they'll vote for someone like Trudeau despite the fact that he'll chip away at what they value most.
desu it was the Trudeau Dynasty that killed us
Pierre destroyed any sort of identity of national unity we have and Justin's here to put us out of our misery.
at least the east coast doesn't have to deal with muzzie bullshit
>They have the highest quality of life here Muslims have outside of maybe UAE, they go to put colleges and get free medical service too and still they choose to be terrorist.
True but to come here it's actually quite difficult(not sure about Israel).
Other than refugees(which is a huge mistake) we take the top 2% of their respective countries.
It's same with how Nigerians are the most educated population in the US... Yeah because there's only like 300 of them and only millionaires and people with PhDs are accepted in.
Complaining about the immigrants in Toronto while the real problem are the SJWs and feminists?
And, the group that is the most cucked here are the Native Americans. They've been mistreated for years and many of them are living in the lower class.
>Top 10 HDI
>Multiculturalism here works better than other places
>2nd largest country
>Friendly neighbors to the north
>drake, weeknd, etc
It's a nice place, dont take memes seriously
Yeah but we have an ocean that separates us from those vile people. That comparison isn't relevant when we are talking about people living half a world away.
The Canada I grew up in is dead and that makes me sad; chinks don't fucking care about hockey, trad Canadian food, snow games, camping and all the great stuff that were ""Canadian""". Every day I have to go to work and enter a bus crowded with smelly pakistanis, mainland chinese etc...
>No not really. It's not that common, most people who come here from Islamabad wear Western clothes and stop being muslim cucks.
Bullshit, I saw it with my own eyes. Your Arabs are more covered then ours.
>rude loud people,
>That's every major city. Are you going to tell me Tel Aviv is not rude and loud as well?
They are too but I don't think countries that aren't Jewish should fill up with Jews either. Besides Muslims are still worse imo
>intolerant to Jews (as one I can't really ignore it)
>What does being tolerant mean? No one is ripping off your kippah and grabbing you by the nose. There is many Jewish areas in Toronto.
I'm from Israel, it's on my passport. All violence to Israelis in Europe is done by Muslims and I don't feel safe by myself weapon less in a city with so many Muslims.
>Uhh not sure how to respond to this.
They do smell bad though
>and the family I visited said crime has skyrocketed since Muslims came
>That's just a meme.
No it's not, what kind of rebuttal is that?
>Toronto isn't even in the top 50 cities in Canada for violent crime.
It's number one in Canada...
>And, the group that is the most cucked here are the Native Americans. They've been mistreated for years and many of them are living in the lower class.
How are they "mistreated"?
They get free fucking education, tons of free shit yet they STILL choose to drink mouthwash and hand sanitizer to get drunk. They are literally subhuman.
>All the chances in the world to becoem successful
>Literally: "HERE TAKE THIS FREE TUITION, TAKE THESE GRANTS START A BUSINESS BECOME EDUCATION, PLEASE"
>Le no XDD
If this was /cum/ that would work, but the reference would fall flat on people that don't actually have Indians. Australia might get it, their abos seem like the type that would drink mouthwash. For the same reason I skipped any casino references.
it's the only areas in canada that have been settled since the 1500/1600's (St. John's was foudned in 1497 ffs)
they've had time and ethnic unity to make an interesting blend of Anglo/Irish/Scottish/Cornish/Acadian culture that you'll see nowhere else
>Newfies (Irish Canadians) playing in PEI
>Modern Newfie Rock Band (gives me a dose of the feels)
>old newfies jammin out
Am I like the only person who doesn't notice anything cucky about canada?
Like I encounter muslims all the and they all act like Americans like every other person that lives here.
Only people who act Canadian aren't even anglo, they're sikhs. Bro tier desu.
>Australia might get it, their abos seem like the type that would drink mouthwash
They huff gasoline and I think ours too
I recall seeing pics of Asians in jerseys chimping out during the Vancouver hockey riots.
If you will smash a fucking mountie car in with a hockey stick because Canada can't bring Stan Lee's Cup north I would say that you have assimilated to Canadian culture quite well. I mean, Asians don't even play hockey and yet they care this much.
I understand but your missing my point. I'm telling you even the educated good ones have kids that turn to Durka shit. They are a fifth Column and it's never a good idea to take so many. A few are already forming gangs. Now that you're taking refugees too you'll get some extremists and they'll spread to all the weird Muslim kids who feel like they don't fit in and soon you'll have the same problems Europe and Israel is having with them. Look at Germany, the early Turks were secular and good immigrants and what about now?
Those sjw are directly tied to the Muslim problem, both are cancer.
nobody cared about the results of the game. everybody just wanted to riot. people were planning to riot before the game even started. it was going to happen win or lose. the police failed to stop it.
>Again with the "brotier" Sikh posts. It's one of /int/'s more pervasive but lesser known memes Tbh.
I have heard of Indians (feather) eating deodorant for the alcohol content. Shit's out of hand Tbh
>nobody cared about the results of the game
What Canada are you in?
>everybody just wanted to riot
What color were these Canadians?
>people were planning to riot before the game even started
Truly you have become American
desu nearly everyone born in one of these countries is living life in easy mode
would've included US on their level of economic opportunity in the higher classes, but their lower class is just too damn low
>It's number one in Canada...
NOT EVEN CLOSE TO IT.
In fact you're saying memes so hard I don't even believe you ever came here. It's literally under the Canadian overall average.
I wish I got to participate in a riot.
>Tfw u'll never riot with your bros
Fuck man it seems so fun
The thing is that people from Islamabad who want to come to Canada/US are trying to get AWAY from the Mudslimes most of the time, so they tend to be Atheist and not related if not opposed to Muslim views of their shitholes.
Especially 2nd generation immigrants they pretty much become normal people who don't want to behead anyone.
Not for long, I guarantee it. All it takes is a couple people being extremist and then people will blame Islam and the young Muslims will start to defend it and slowly the divide will keep growing. No one has been able to successfully assimilate Muslims in history and you won't be able to either.
>you'll get some extremists and they'll spread to all the weird Muslim kids who feel like they don't fit in and soon you'll have the same problems Europe and Israel is having with them.
Look buddy, we aren't Europe or Israel, I don't know how you guys manage to do it but our minorities aren't the apes that you have. Our biggest "muslim" danger isn't even arabs, it's weirdo white converts who got bullied in highschool.
>tfw Newfoundland culture is nightmare fuel
Yeah I just make up stories about visiting Toronto because it's such a cool place...
I was there in 2010 visiting family. None of what I said are "memes" and you seem very desperate to defend Muslims.
I'm on my phone but I googled crime in Toronto and there's is many result confirming what I said as well. Sure maybe the cities that have like 100 people who are all natives have more crime rates but Toronto had the highest numbers over all. No one cares about barely populated regions filled with drunk natives.
i live in hongcouver. this isnt like montreal/toronto, most people here dont give a shit about hockey, much less the cancucks. they were only "cheering" for the team because it was game 7 for stan lee's bowl.
>everybody just wanted to riot
look at some of those pictures. people came prepared to smash things and deal with teargas/pepper spray. like that picture with the chink with the hockey stick and smashed glass. there arent really any places in downtown vancouver where you could easily get a hockey stick. somebody more than likely brought it with them, and nobody just brings a hockey stick to an arena to watch a hockey game.
when the cantnucks lost the stan lee cup to the >rags there was a riot too. people just wanted to recreate that for some reason.
Because so far you've only taken the top % and they still haven't assimilated...
Take some more refugees and wait for their Durka kids to start recruiting the kids of your "great" Muslims.
>Yeah I just make up stories about visiting Toronto because it's such a cool place...
No but it sounds like you're judging a rather large and diverse place on very little evidence. Your claim that "Toronto is number one for violence" was just ridiculous and incredibly telling of that.
>I was there in 2010 visiting family. None of what I said are "memes" and you seem very desperate to defend Muslims.
How can it not be a meme if you want to claim that official statistics are trying to hide something meanwhile you visitng for probably less than 2 weeks gives you a large enough outlook on a city of a couple million?
>I'm on my phone but I googled crime in Toronto and there's is many result confirming what I said as well
You would not be able to find a single website that shows it has more violent crime per capita than the national average.
Do you understand how statistics work? It means you have less of a chance of being victim, which means it is safer.
I live in Calgary and we have drunk natives here as well.
Riding the train in the early morning is one of those times that I don't feel safe here because of those drunk people.
They're cool people though when they're sober.
Memes aren't rash judgements, obviously people make judgements on their own experiences and not internet memes. Making my opinion of Toronto based on what I saw in Toronto is perfectly reasonable.
Just so you know what I'm referring too
Crime in Toronto has been relatively low for a very long period of time, however, as of 2015, Toronto's gun crime stats have spiked. 36 more people have been shot in 2015 in Toronto, than in 2014. Toronto Police statistics show a 90% increase in people wounded by gunfire and a 48% increase in shootings (135 in 2015 compared to 91 in 2014). Meanwhile, there have been 114 reported incidents of shootings without injuries as of July 15 compared to just 14 in 2014.
Your link shows nothing besides an increase in murder which is still very very small. 36 more people got shot in a year... Doesn't that happen but with deaths every hour in Russia or somewhere?
Also look at from that page:
>For comparisons to various cities in North America, in 2012 for example, the homicide rate for the city of Toronto was 2.0 per 100,000 people, yet for Atlanta (19.0), Chicago (18.5), Boston (9.0), San Francisco (8.6), New York City (5.1), and San Jose (4.6) it was higher, while it was significantly lower in Vancouver (1.2)
2.0 per 100,000 is incredibly low compared to literally every place in the world.
Did you even look at your link?
Yes you're right a bit more people got shot.
But every single year since 2005 the homicide rate has fallen, so there's basically been more shootings but less deaths.
Yeah this kike is trying his best to insult glorious Canada but he cannot.
It literally shows murders in Toronto dropping quite a bit every single year since 2005, nearly half of the 2005 amount rn.
Those are highly influenced by the gun violence in the US last year than immigration. What happens in the US affects us as well. Our news is even more likely to care about the US current events than here.
Still higher then murder rate where I live
Are you mentally retarded? You have to be to a) defend Muslims while calling me a kike b)think because I hate a mudshit city that I hate Canada
Your obviously a Muslims or someone who sucks lots of Muslim penis
>let me tell you about how Muslims in your country live or how you got that land
Irony. Eat a dick, our Muslim live better then in any of their mudshit hellholes and what about Europe? They took Muslim land and put them in slums too? Jesus are all Canadians such cucks now
>~500 murders per year and most relevant cities aren't even in the top 50 for violent crime
that's a safe place to live? that's like 5 times our murder rate and they're only one and a half times our population
>Are you mentally retarded? You have to be to a) defend Muslims while calling me a kike b)think because I hate a mudshit city that I hate Canada
Are you a fucking idiot?
Only in your mentally ill brain do you think "Someone disagreeing me == MUST be a muslim/muslim lover". I'm only bringing up facts while you shittalk my country.
You keep saying some shit, I respond with 4 different websites showing the statistics, you respond with a source that proves you wrong(that i bet you didn't even read).
You literally linked a source that was suppose to show how "Murder is going up" yet it has been declining every single year for a decade now.
>that's a safe place to live?
Compared to most the world, yes it is. Especially when it's mostly related to obvious shithole parts of the country where normal people will not live anyway.
I.e Niggerland, areas with natives who keep raping and killing eachother while high off gas fumes
t. Schlomo "it's okay if we do it because someone did it to us" Goldberg
lmao keep on thinking that you know what will happen to the highly-integrated population Canada from your experiences living in a segregated shithole. Your expertise on Canadian affairs is almost as impressive as your cunt's human rights record. :^)