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Why are Americans trying to demonize this based man and calling him a fascist, when he is trying to get rid of all the degenerate criminals that entered their country illegally?
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>>53127935
care to point out what I have said that was dumb spain kun?
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he is not trying
he is saying he will try

big big difference in elected democracies
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>>53128026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qgr7xlyW94

Never mentions the word "try"
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>>53128112
idiot campaign promises are always what ifs

obama said he will close guatanamo bay and he didn't
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He seems like kind of an asshole, desu.
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>>53128147
>obama said he will close guatanamo bay and he didn't
What do you expect from a libtard democrat eh? Have you forgotten his "thank you satan" slogan?
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>>53127800
He wants to kick out people that came here illegally.
Some people here sympathize with the illegal immigrants.
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>>53128204
all of them work that way

they say crap you want to hear and don't give much thoughts after, that's how it works yo

and he hasn't explained how so it's worse
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>>53127800
Coz americans become pussy communists, obviously. They can't deal with a strong personality of Trump anymore. All they can is produce special snowflakes in college, make black lifes matter and be ashamed of their balls. Pussies.
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>>53128376
>produce snowflakes in college
What is wrong with that?
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>>53128567
Everything. I've never seen anyone so easily offended outside of Russian patriotic movements
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>>53127800
He wants to protect Americans by moving businesses to the US and closing the border to a giant group of people. He also believes America is special and is extremely nationalistic.
It doesn't have to be bad (well it kind of goes against the free market principle but whatever) but it does seem kind of fascist to me.
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>>53128733
>closing the border to a giant group of people
What's so bad about keeping barbarians out of Rome?
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>>53128376
It's what happens when you make "teaching the kids to empathize" a major goal of your educational system.
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We have a lot of problems in this country and he's shifting the blame for them onto Muslims and Mexicans.
Say he's elected and he does build a wall and shuts out all muslim immigrants. What then? What the hell has he done? Pretty much nothing. We still have a ton of poor people, a shitty education system, growing national debt and a shaky economy.
He's a meme candidate with nothing real to offer.
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>>53128899
I'm assuming you mean barbarian in the way of "uncivilized" people.
They're not all bad, but it wouldn't be the worst thing ever too in a practical sense. At any rate it's kind of silly a group of muslims wanting to go on vacation or on a study trip can't go because the US will bar them from entering.
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>>53128928
Yeah, I agree. Too much of indiscriminatory empathy is fucking crippling. Wish you guys to deal with this dumb shit as quickly and as effectively as possible.

>>53129065
>They're not all bad
Sure. Nobody's bad. But not every value system can coexist with every other.

>a group of muslims wanting to go on vacation or on a study trip can't go because the US will bar them from entering
While it might be inconvinient or dumb there's nothing bad about
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>>53129029
>does build a wall and shuts out all muslim immigrants
By doing that real Americans will regain their lost jobs taken away from illegal immigrants, which will = less unemployment and more work opportunities for the poor. People will have more money to spend, which means the economy will gradually recover in the long run. The growing national debt could easily be solved by cutting off aid to Israel , the military budget, and spending.
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>>53129150
>there's nothing bad about
Sorry, but it takes a Russian to say something like this. Putin voter by chance?

It's a giant negative message towards muslims, if we were baring Russians Russia would also get upset and bar us from entering etc. In the meanwhile the US is on muslim soil with many bases and fighting alongside with muslims, it's a giant mixed message. It's a bad thing to do, perhaps not terrible but just bad.
Secondly we live on one planet and it really is best to come into contact with eachother a bit so we can learn a thing or two, even if it is only to learn how you shouldn't do things.
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What's wrong with fascism anyway ?
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>>53128899
In this analogy it's the Roman senators bringing the barbarians in.

Immigration is an invention of the right wing and it's business masters. The only thing you can take away from it is politicians of all stripes are evil and should be tried with contempt until they prove themselves worthy of respect.
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>>53129293
>Sorry, but it takes a Russian to say something like this. Putin voter by chance?
Nah.

>It's a giant negative message towards muslims
So? It's not like it's a negative message just to be mean to muslims.

>if we were baring Russians Russia would also get upset and bar us from entering etc
So? The US do that to some extent. I heard that the EU is planning to do something simmilar.

>It's a bad thing to do, perhaps not terrible but just bad.
What's gonna be bad about it?

>Secondly we live on one planet and it really is best to come into contact with eachother
It is, probably, best, but you've got to know your boundaries and keep them or you'll gonna be exploited by those who don't care that much about contacting and stuff.

>Immigration is an invention of the right wing and it's business masters. The only thing you can take away from it is politicians of all stripes are evil and should be tried with contempt until they prove themselves worthy of respect.
Sorry, didn't get your point
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>>53129293
>It's a giant negative message towards muslims

That's kinda the point.

>Secondly we live on one planet and it really is best to come into contact with eachother a bit so we can learn a thing or two

Fucking leftist.
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>>53129389
they're anti-qt
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>>53129434
>Immigration is an invention of the right wing and it's business masters. The only thing you can take away from it is politicians of all stripes are evil and should be tried with contempt until they prove themselves worthy of respect.
Sorry, didn't get your point
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>>53129150
>Yeah, I agree. Too much of indiscriminatory empathy is fucking crippling. Wish you guys to deal with this dumb shit as quickly and as effectively as possible.
I remember history and English teachers in high school choosing materials to use based on how much they thought it could make us feel. My Jewish Latin teacher even mocked the way they made us read Holocaust books.

Yeah, it's become a leftist buzzword recently. If you disagree with their moral axioms, they'll accuse you of lacking empathy, and if you doubt the value of their version of empathy, they can just disregard you. I really don't think empathy should the basis of moral thought. The popular sentiment is reminiscent Schopenhauer's, but his claim at the least made sense within the context of his system. I think the solution lies in Nietzsche's critique of him.
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>>53127935
fuck of japan speaks the truth
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>>53129553
>implying
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>>53129293
>Secondly we live on one planet and it really is best to come into contact with eachother a bit so we can learn a thing or two, even if it is only to learn how you shouldn't do things.

thanks to modern information technology we can learn from each other without having to deal with the issues our physical interaction would cause.
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>Make America Great Again

What did he mean by this?
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>>53129974
Goddamn autist.
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>>53130026
He wants to revert this country to a former, better state. Unfortunately for him, America has never been great.
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>>53129224

>kicking out a few beaners will save the whole economy

You're retarded

>The growing national debt could easily be solved by cutting off aid to Israel , the military budget, and spending.

1. What does this have to do with Trump?
2. Cutting off aid to Israel will save $3 billion out of our $3.8 trillion budget. You're doing exactly what Trump does, you know, the thing I was complaining about in the post you responded to.
3. America cutting the military budget and breaking up the military industrial complex? We don't do that here, that would actually solve some problems.
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>>53130290
>3. America cutting the military budget and breaking up the military industrial complex? We don't do that here, that would actually solve some problems.
And create a bunch of others. Trimming the fat of it would be nice though.
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>>53129029
>Say he's elected and he does build a wall and shuts out all muslim immigrants. What then? What the hell has he done? Pretty much nothing. We still have a ton of poor people
Are you aware how many jobs a wall of that size will produce? That would make quite a dent it that ol poverty.

Lrn2keynesian.
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>>53130484

>And create a bunch of others

No shit, I'm not suggesting we need end it over night.

>>53130718

Are you aware how those jobs go away upon completion of the wall? It would would make quite a temporary dent it that ol poverty.
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>>53130937
>Are you aware how those jobs go away upon completion of the wall? It would would make quite a temporary dent it that ol poverty
While simultaneusly raising demand and consumer spending and lowering the labor force. Not to mention the amount of years it takes to build said wall will also lower the labor force simply because of demographics.
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>>53127800
now he can be a fascist
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>>53129582
People seem to be genuinely unaware about the roots of immigration. They seem to think voting for the very people that started it will change anything. Right-wing anti-immigration stances are pure lip service. People harp at Obongo, but the truth is Bush barely did anything beyond token measures either.
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>>53127800
because they don't know what fascism is
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>>53128147
>idiot campaign promises
You mean like Hillary and aliens?

>During a visit to New Hampshire, the former First Lady told the Conway Daily Sun’s editorial board that she thinks little green men may have already visited Earth.
>At the end of a more serious interview about foreign policy and the economy, Clinton palled around with a reporter who asked her about UFOs back in 2007.
>At the time, Clinton claimed that info about UFOs was the top Freedom of Information Act request her husband received at his library.
>“I'm going to get to the bottom of it," she joked Wednesday.
>After mistakenly calling the government’s top-secret zone in Nevada “Area 54,” she corrected herself and and said she’d look into Area 51 — which conspiracy theorists have long maintained may contain aliens.
>"One way or another. Maybe we could have, like, a task force to go to Area 51."
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/hillary-clinton-says-aliens-may-231552488.html
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/hillary-clinton-pledges-area-51-ufo-disclosure-says-we-may-have-been-visited-aliens-500769
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/04/politics/hillary-clinton-area-51-aliens/index.html
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>>53132441
Only the anticapitalist right genuinely opposes immigration. We unfortunately don't have anyone big that holds such views.
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>>53130115
>so edgy
>wow i make bold, unwarranted claims because I'm an angsty teenager.

you literally made me cringe with embarrassment.
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>>53127800
it saddens me that Jim webb ran for president and got almost not votes ,or media coverage, he is a war hero, forner secretary or the navy and senator, clearly the best qualified to be president but instead of someone who has served theyre country with honor and distinction we get Hilliary, Berinie "socialist" sanders, and a reality T.V star, i feel like this says alot about whats wrong with our country.
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>>53127800
Her is a fascist. And there's nothing wrong with that
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>>53127800
Can't stump the Trump.
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>>53127800
jesus he looks like a moron in that picture.
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>>53129690
that's a boy with tresses
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