is speaking a foreign language impressive? and im not talking about euros speaking romance languages or english, i mean learning something actually foreign.
I'm a native English speaker forced to learn ching chongese at school.
It's not really impressive if the language learnt is shit, and everyone in the country is mandated to speak their "mother tongue".
you're expected to know at least three languages if you want to mean something
>speaking a foreign language impressive
Not in and of itself. Speaking a foreign language is only impressive if it isn't English or the language of the country you reside in (or have resides it for a big chunk of your life).
For example, if a 20 year old lad would randomly decide to learn French and become before he's 30, I'd be extremely impressed, not necessarily because it's very hard, but because it shows a huge amount of dedication.
Here you are expected to speak at least 2 foreign languages(Russian and English), there are people who speak 3 foreign languages(the 3rd is usually German, sometimes French). Less speak more foreign languages. Guess, if you speak more than 2 foreign languages in Latvia, that could be considered impressive.
It differs. I am fluent in both English and Russian, but I also speak basic German. Most people from the older generations(those, who were born in the USSR) know Russian a lot better than English, but the younger generations know English a lot better than Russian.
>tfw can speak Danish, English, Spanish and French if you're being generous
>can understand Swedish, Norwegian and Icelandic and Faroese if you're being generous as well (wish I could speak them but I always mess up grammar)
>none of this is remotely "foreign" or impressive since its all something that's either innate something you understand through Danish or something you learn in school
Fuck me I have 2 months time to kill, what language can I begin on?
We didn't have those A-B-C levels in School, so Im not certain. French I can understand to a degree but its really fucking basic
Spanish is a bit more advanced though also pretty basic in speech itself.
C2 is near native level and the highest level you can attain, I'm C2 in English and have been since I was about fifteen, but I spoke it at home (parents wanted me to be fluent in English), and I honestly don't think I'll ever reach C2 in another language.
I consider C1 to be fluent and that's the goal I want to achieve when I learn a new language:
>Can understand a wide range of long and complex texts, including any subtextual or stylistic nuances. Can express him or herself freely and fluidly, without obviously fumbling for words. Can use the language effectively and fluently in a social, professional or academic context. Can speak in a clear, organised way about complex subjects, developing a well-structured argument.
From your post, I reckon you're A2 in French:
>Can understand isolated phrases and common expressions that relate to areas of high personal relevance (like personal or family information, shopping, immediate environment, work). Can communicate during easy or habitual tasks requiring a basic and direct information exchange on familiar subjects. Using simple words, can describe his or her surroundings and communicate immediate needs.
And B1 (maybe B2?) in Spanish:
>Can understand the main points of clear standard speech on familiar subjects in work, school, leisure activities, etc. Can manage in most situations that come up when travelling in a region where the language is spoken. Can produce a simple and cohesive text on familiar subjects or subjects of personal interest. Can narrate an event, an experience or a dream; describe a desire or goal, and outline reasons or explanations behind a project or idea.
Yeah, that would be my advice for you. Just choose one of those two and improve on them.
Personally, I'd be interested in learning languages such as Spanish, Russian or Arabic, but I can't be arsed to familiarise myself with their grammar and shit, because I'm already a full-time student, whereas I'm already familiar with the grammar of French and German (from high school), so it would simply be a matter of reading and revision.
I'll stick to Spanish since a lot of people speak it, and it isn't too long ago since I stopped taking classes unlike French. And as you said, I guess I should be aiming for C1..
I myself am at that awkward point between B1 and B2 in Spanish. Definitely "passed" B1 I'd say, but only partially passed B2. Basically I'm able to understand quite well (though it's still a bit of a strain), but communicating complex thoughts is another matter.
After B1 it starts to become hard. I'm convinced I can become B1 in any Indo-European language in a month, but B2? It'll take me way, way longer. C1? Years for sure, unless you spend multiple hours a day on it.
It's obvious. You wanted people to believe you speak 9 languages, but when I called you out on it, you knew it would be hard to lie about 9 languages (there's always someone here who could expose you), so you pretended to be an "epic drolle :DDDD", pic related.
Quite embarrassing desu
yeah, I think you're right regarding B1 being a sort of threshold. Of course the other problem is that the criteria are obviously a bit vague.
If I look at my level of B1 for Spanish:
>Can understand the main points of clear standard input on familiar matters regularly encountered in work, school, leisure, etc.
>Can deal with most situations likely to arise while travelling in an area where the language is spoken.
>Can produce simple connected text on topics that are familiar or of personal interest.
Yes, but there'll probably be many mistakes. However it'll still be perfectly understandable. So do I pass or no?
>Can describe experiences and events, dreams, hopes and ambitions and briefly give reasons and explanations for opinions and plans.
Same as above
And for B2:
>Can understand the main ideas of complex text on both concrete and abstract topics, including technical discussions in his/her field of specialization.
Depends on your definition of "understand". I'll be able to understand MOST of it, for sure. But there'll be some sentences here and there which I won't understand. And it also depends on how technical or abstract we're talking about. If you're just talking about basic anatomy for example I can easily understand, but if you're talking about advanced law there'll be many parts I won't understand.
>Can interact with a degree of fluency and spontaneity that makes regular interaction with native speakers quite possible without strain for either party.
It really depends on your definition of "strain". For example, when someone speaks broken English to me, I don't find it a strain, but some people do.
>Can produce clear, detailed text on a wide range of subjects and explain a viewpoint on a topical issue giving the advantages and disadvantages of various options.
>Portuñol, Galician, Asturian, Mirandese, Leonese and Catalan
yes and no
there have always been lingua francas, the difference is that previously there was a much larger number of lingua francas than there are today.
For example. in North America, around the Great Lakes region and even further to the East, Ojibwe (and other related languages/dialects, for example Algonquin) was the lingua franca, even with groups from completely different language families. And so Ojibwe people could very well have been monolingual.
I'd in today's world one should know 3 on average. But it depends on what you do with the language(s). For example if you decide to study in a foreign language or just utilise 10% of it when you're travelling.
not at all. everyone speaks 3+ languages here, you're considered unclutured if you don't.
5+ languages could be impressive if it's spoething like chinese or arabic, but not if it's all euro languages.