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>>53101641
not going to post because POO smells

POO
IN
LOO

>>53103283
I was waiting for this

>>53102681
A FUCKING RAMP

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>>53103372
Viraat VTOL , this is ramp.

>>53103527
it has a ramp for STOVL operations m8, just like all your shitty "carriers"

Anything new on your air force situation? Last I heard you were down quite a few squadrons due to older planes coming to end of their service life, Tejas still not ready, HAL was unable to deliver their part on Rafale deal so you had to buy straight from Dasault, HAL being unable to deliver on FGFA so Suhkoi had to cut your work share to keep it on schedule, and apparently some update programs going on with the Su-30's, Mig-29's and Mirages

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>>53101857

>c17 with sukhois

Does it not worry India that in terms of critical hardware it depends almost entirely in countries it's not very close with?

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>>53102156
Gotta say, love the lines on the Sukhois.

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>>53102557

>mfw there are stories of Indian ships using un-nerfed spears to get the line across to USN ships during these training exercises

>>53103766
looks like a dangly dong

>>53103763
Isn't the FGFA a joint-effort?

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>>53101641

>>53103894

And how is that going

>>53103727
>Anything new on your air force situation?
nope well except the airbase attack that OP for which is still dragging on.

>apparently some update programs going on with the Su-30's, Mig-29's and Mirages
yeah but they aren't even briefing the parliament on it let alone the public.
>>53103763
India's close with Russia and the US has to court India to balance PRC's influence in the region.
there is a worry about self reliance but still our Indigenous efforts vary case by case basis.
e.g Arjun,Tejas and INSAS are FUBAR while Kolkata, Arihant , Vikrant(R44) are Successes.

>>53104041
This is one sexy swamp.

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>>53104060
>gets ballistic missile subs
>still cannot poo in loo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOFfmD9LIPE

>>53104060
>India's close with Russia

They are as close as India is willing to pay.

The USA gives access to UK/CAN/AUS pretty much to anything they want the majority of the time. e.g. there were British pilots flying the F117 before even the US Congress knew of its existence. That is true closeness.

>the US has to court India to balance PRC's influence in the region.

In your mind, India is in a position to extort things from the US? This is what people in India think?

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>>53104219
Thanks :)
Few more vids from the same exercise:
https://www.youtube.com/user/DefenceForcesFinland/search?query=wihuri15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IxYI_ZMfDw (<-includes clips from that swamp)

>>53104375
>India is in a position to extort things from the US?
now when did i say that, you know full well why those P8i were sold and that EMALS transfer is likely provided we sign the logistics contracts which in themselves would be beneficial on their own, Pentagon's pushing as far enough as possible without forcing India into alienating itself from russia.
>They are as close as India is willing to pay.
why is this a surprise? Russia has fuck all strategic benefits to have bases in India so why would they push for a relationship like say with Syria.

>The USA gives access to UK/CAN/AUS
all those countries fall under ANZUS and NATO and they spare a lot of assets in the US's endevours e.g. Vietnam, if India had been co-signee to a similar treaty and sent assets for US's wars it'd be the same.
but this will never be because India never bites off more than it can chew with the no wars of aggression policy in the constitution.

Poo in loo, Rajesh.

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Russian 5th Generation """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""stealth"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" jet

>>53104856

No they fall under the 5 eyes which is the most in depth alliance the world has ever seen

>>53101641
100 new tanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkclVF8KLZU

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwYoF62nCjs

>>53105177
That's shopped though. /k/ will do anything to make it look bad, but let's wait till we know a bit more

>muh s-ducts
>muh rivets
>muh engines

>>53105280
If that panzerkampfwagen was a girl, I would marry her and have 12 children.

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>>53103527
Weaponized Poo Bombs

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>>53105280
100 second-hand tanks :^)

patel trying to show off?

>>53105988
Eh, it's /Military/
Showing off is inevitable

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>>53105988
No

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new bavarian launcher is going to replace the patriots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IJyLIxti-0

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>>53105658
That's in southerners paint scheme with our roundel just slapped on tho, our paint scheme has sharper lines and traditionally with light green instead of brown

>muh world power
>increasing Tejas production

Good luck with that one, curries.

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>>53106140
Or in winter the light green painted over with white

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>>53106167
its supposed to replace the MiG 21s and counter the chinky_paki JF17 which is does very well so no idea why you so stingy.

>>53106282
Because even upgraded MiG 21s are better than this.

Plus your government want to increase production to "promote Indian aerospace industry" but honestly if you want to spend money on that you should have taken the Rafale deal which included technology transfer, at least that would have been somewhat useful.

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>>53101641
European countries other than France, UK, Germany cannot into own MBT. Lel

>>53101641

POO IN LOO
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>>53105536

hahahahahhahaha

thank you for the laughs

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Spanish Airbus CASA-295 are built in seville

>>53107769
My father works there <3 construcciónes aeronáuticas S.A [Airbus ]

India is going to get closer and closer to the USA/EU militarily over the next decade.

>>53103678
>it has a ramp for STOVL operations m8, just like all your shitty "carriers"
That is not a STOVL carrier you dumb fuck

>>53105988
At least Patel has something to show off

I don't get all the hate towards Indian posters. It's kind of pathetic. I would rather have anons posting quality pictures related to the thread, like Patel, than sad people who contribute nothing like you and the others ITT

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The Brazilian military is the most technologically advanced in the world.

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>>53109484

>>53109484
>Gripen

>>53109484

Does that carrier even work?

I read an article that it took decades to get some Skyhawks that were originally ordered by some arab country in the 60 or 70s, but when brazil finally ended up with them there was no carrier available.

>>53109912
IIRC it's an old French carrier, so the catapults should be the same as those on US carriers from those times.

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>>53109484
Sorry about your tank.

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Is it going to get inducted?

>>53109912
It's command center caught on fire two times and it's not working anymore. Back in the day it only operated 3 months per year because it's too old, so it needs to spend at least 8 months under repair.

>>53111528
Still more reliable than that Russian "carrier" .

Is showing off hand-me-downs a thing now

>>53112156
Look at the time.

This is amateur hour.

>>53103527
Wow, some nice "tools" 4 protection :)

>>53103527
Fucking good!!
Thats our squad! Wanna battle? LOL

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>>53103527
Forgot The photo of The damn squad!!!
We are prepared, man! (To fish)

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Is there a better assault rifle than the Tavor?
>reliable long-stroke gas system
>virtually no malfunctions
>easy to field-strip
>just one captive pin in the stock and you can remove the bolt carrier group
>one captive pin and you can remove the trigger group from the magazine well
>fits a variety of magazines
>doesn't shoot brass in your face like the Steyr AUG.
>ergonomic and accurate for its cartridge
>easily convertible to other cartridges
>slightly heavy but well balanced

>>53102681
Lets battle! Lol
http://i.4cdn.org/int/1451948299909.jpg

>>53112799
also
>locks to open bolt on the last shot
>the button to chamber the next round is easily in reach of the magazine
well done, IWI

>>53112836
and it's even ambidextrous, more so than the FS2000
you can switch the charging handle to either side, as well as the ejector port

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>all these Indian SU-30
Feels good
t. I work in an aircraft plant that produces them (for India too)

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I wish we had a war with Russia to show how much of their equipment is utter shit

>>53112799
>reduced bayonet capabilities
>mushy trigger
>non-ambidextrous
>non-adjustable butt
>still malfunctions more than AR and AK type rifles
>Unproven in arctic and sub-zero conditions

>>53112956
>I wish we had a war with Russia to show how much of their equipment is utter shit

You realize you would get your ass kicked, right?

>>53112956
The first gulf war pretty much showed this already. Their IADs was BTFO in a few days, and the t-72s were ineffective vs literally everything.

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>>53105385
I dunno, whats the point of trying to make a 5th gen aircraft if it doesn't even have decent stealth characteristics?

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>>53112938
oh the engineer :) dude I've been looking for you.

I have to ask this bluntly, are they putting SU 35's components in for the Super SUkhoi upgrade ?

>>53105385
It's not shopped.

>>53113014
Why do you think it has poor stealth capabilities?

>>53113014
Because it's pretty. Looks like a spaceship.

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>>53101641

>>53113010

Those T-72s were monkey models. Russia has 2 types of military equipment, domestic user and export use. Export use stuff is usually lower quality, although domestic equipment pretty low quality as well.

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>>53113146
Not him, but because it has none.

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>>53113146
>segmented canopy
>no s-ducts
>engine nozzles not hidden

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>>53113186

>>53113146
It's engines, intake system, lack of composites, and sukhoi itself said it had poor stealth.

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>>53113207
Don't forget the entire plane is titanium.

>>53113210

>>53113210
Spectre DR makes muh dikk hard

>>53112962
>>reduced bayonet capabilities
The low profile was specifically designed for urban warfare. And I believe it does have a bayonet lug beneath the removable hand guard.
>>mushy trigger
It's not mushy, maybe a little heavy but it has a crisp, clean break. Better than standard-issue AR trigger.
>>non-ambidextrous
Not sure what you mean. Ejector port on both sides, charging handle on both sides, safety on both sides.
>>>non-adjustable butt
Yeah, I'll give you that.
>>still malfunctions more than AR and AK type rifles
Where do you get your information? This rifle is more reliable than the Galil ACE.
>>Unproven in arctic and sub-zero conditions
I think it's just fine. You don't even have to adjust gas pressure before applying a suppressor. It's crazy how robust it is.

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>>53113162
nope,

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>>53113264
>this was 1/3rd of the US force projection in one area

>>53113029
I don't know anything about how a plane works and about its components desu senpai
I only know how to manufacture parts of it.

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>>53113297
oh well, thanks for your labor of love man :)

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S U N D O W N E R S

>>53106726
>What is Ariete

>>53113207
>segmented canopy

Doesn't have a lot of impact on RCS. Many 5th gen stealth prototypes had them as well.

>no s-ducts

Engines intakes are partially obscured. Radar blockers come with the advantage that they can be managed mid-flight to increase or decrease engine performance. S-Ducts can't be changed or digitally controlled. Seems like a tradeoff to me.

>engine nozzles not hidden

Agreed, but this is more relevant for IR signature, which is probably huge. Maybe they will cover the engines in future prototypes.

>>53113239
>Titanium

Outer coating is composite radar absorbent. Composites would still be better than titanium for strength/weight efficiency though.


All in all, PakFA seems like a solid 4.75G fighter, and a good replacement for RuAF older Su-27 and MiG-29. Not bad for a country that is pretty much broke.

>>53113452
it doesn't have radar blockers, nor are the intakes partial exposed, the are fully exposed.

There is ZERO evidence that there is RAM on the PAK-FA.

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>>53113452
>Outer coating is composite radar absorbent.

Source? I've never seen anything that would provide info on the plane have composites, it's entirely titanium.

There is speculation that the Russians are incapable of producing the composites.

The intakes are FULLY exposed as per photos, not partially.

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>>53113545

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>>53113557
good ol' VF-103

>>53105279
Ok poo jokes aside thats pretty fucking cool

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>>53113578

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>>53113607

Hey, can somebody give me that screenshot or a link to WW1 battle where Italy lost about 350000 men and Austria-Hungary only lost 15000. I can't imagine how is that even possible.

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>>53113619

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We wuz sinlencer 'n shiet

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>>53113725

>>53113622
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tannenberg

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I hope Trump wins and tells everyone stop leeching off the US

Like we don't even hit 2% GDP spending limit for NATO

>2nd largest country
>largest coastal border
>tons of water, air, land
>russians making bases i arctic
>FUCKING AUSTRALIANS SPEND MORE ON DEFENSE

JUST

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>>53113756

>>53113282

Proofs mate?

>>53113786
DUDE
PEACEKEEPING
LMAO

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>>53113800

>>53113786
Guy literally. LITERALLY. Looks like a hipster fag.

>>53113808
Same gun and optics as the Soviet T-72M. Sorry, there isn't anything monkey about what they fielded.

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>>53113786

>>53102557
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>>53103527

DESIGNATED SHIPPING LANES

>>53113622
Incompetent general staff, even worse than the Austro-Hungarians
>invading through the Alps (lol)
>communicating your intentions ahead of the invasion
>poorly equipping your troops
>no industry to support a war
>incompetent field staff

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>>53113825

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Dronz

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>>53113814
Peacekeeping UN meme is finally dying thank god

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>>53113857

>>53113545
>Source? I've never seen anything that would provide info on the plane have composites, it's entirely titanium.

It was in an old marketing/propaganda video. They also mention composite development in the video, but they confess that it is still 'in development'.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kG7KeUrcbm0#t=359

You can also read an actual scientific report on the PakFA that uses actual simulation data.
>http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2012-03.html

From the report:
>no fundamental obstacles exist in the shaping design of the T-50 prototype, which might preclude its development into a genuine Very Low Observable design with constrained angular coverage.

Don't trust everything you read on /k/,most people there are idiots. PakFA will be a VLO aircraft, that is not comparable in stealth to F-35 or F-22, but ought to have better RCS than any 4th generation frame of comparable role.

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>>53113882

Taking out troops of Haiti too?

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>>53113894
>but they confess that it is still 'in development'.

So... they don't have composites.

>>53113892

>>53113894
I seriously doubt it's stealthier than the rafale.

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>>53113940

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>>53106825
fucking stop it you killed the meem

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>>53113976

>>53114006
What unit is that guy in

>>53113829
That picture is for a shitty game. You will find it hard to find any real pictures of jtf2

>>53113940
Russia is decades behind in aerospace composite manufacture and use.

>>53114006
I dig the drug rug.

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>>53102257
Nice looking jets and all, but they're no match for a contemporary western fighter. Keep going through with those Rafales though and you'll be on the right path.

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>>53114064
MARSOC

>>53114077
Yes, I know that, they don't have the ability to manufacture composites unfortunately.

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>>53114075
Some general is releasing a book about jtf 2 01 and 05-06 deployments in Afghanistan next monrh, looks cool

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>>53114116

>>53114110
>If it is Russian it must be bad!

I am sure they are a proper match for 4th generation Western fighters.

>>53114110
>they're no match for a contemporary western fighter.
yeah...that's exactly why they wrecked RAF and USAF(TWICE!) in exercises.

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>>53114176
>"exercises"

Only an Indian (and sometimes 50 cents) believe they mean anything.

>>53114165

>>53114176
In WVR conditions that favored the flankers.

In reality, WVR would never happen and those pretty slavjets would be blown out of the sky by AMRAAMs before anything serious happened.

>>53114172
>If it is Russian it must be bad!

Considering they're 20 years behind, yes. The Russians haven't made a good jet since the MiG-21.

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>>53114211

>>53114176
There's a reason you guys are buying western jets these days. And only western engines for your in house jets.

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>>53114221
>Considering they're 20 years behind

Where are you getting these numbers from? Abrams M1A1 and F-15 are from the 70's too.

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who on /christmasleave/ here

>>53114313
Their technological standards are 20 years behind. The US had 5th gens around in the 90's while the Russians still struggle with a 4th gen that could maybe compete with early f-15s/16s today.

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>>53114313
>Where are you getting these numbers from? Abrams M1A1 and F-15 are from the 70's too.

That isn't how it works.

You HONESTLY think the F-15s in the air are the same exact planes flying from the 1970s?

>>53114310

>>53114313
They've been upgraded over the years with new technology.

>>53114313
Russian jet engine and avionics are quite behind.

Even their tanks. They are buying optics and thermal sights from France as their in house stuff is absolute shit.

>>53114267
>There's a reason you guys are buying western jets these days.
yeah but that has no bearing on the Flanker's capabilities for their era.
>>53114221
>In reality, WVR would never happen and those pretty slavjets would be blown out of the sky by AMRAAMs before anything serious happened.
or maybe the PAki F16s would be blow outt'a the sky by our ASTRA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_(missile)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsyFeqX0xUw

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>>53114405
They've had a really bizarre and difficult time developing even IR, compartmentalizing guided missiles has been a struggle for them as well, although they've gotten better in that regard.

They poured money into bigger missiles and radar systems though, I'll give them that.

>>53103625
That is EXTREMELY outdated.

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>>53114423
post more good bush hats

>>53113775
Thanks m8.

>>53114443
Plz kill all the pakis.

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>>53114481
Have some retro aussie operator.

>>53114348
Nonsense. Su-27 is the most advanced 4th-gen design in the history of humanity.

The Soviet Union already had a stealth project:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_Project_1.44

>>53113775
Wait, what the fuck, this isn't the right link. And i know Russia mostly failed during WW1.

>>53114443
>80km head-on range

What a joke.

>>53114520
The 1.44 project was not stealth.

>>53114520
So how come they still haven't fielded any stealth aircraft despite it being nearly 40 years since the US had theirs?

>>53114520
That isn't stealth, and the SU-27 isn't even really battle tested like the F-15 is.

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>>53114520
>Su-27 is the most advanced 4th-gen design in the history of humanity.
lol

>The Soviet Union already had a stealth project:
aka a shitty prototype that fell apart and was not even stealth at all, whereas the US has almost 200 F-22 full capability stealth fighter.

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>>53114520
>this entire post

Lol.

>>53114517

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>>53114538
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-30MKI
why do i even respond to your trolling.
10 × R-77 (AA-12) active radar homing medium range AAM, 100 km
10 × Astra missile active radar homing medium range AAM, 80–110 km
6 × R-27ER (AA-10C) semi-active radar guided, long range AAM 130 km
6 × R-27ET (AA-10D) Infrared homing extended range version, long range AAM 120 km
2 × R-27R (AA-10A) semi-active radar guided, medium range AAM, 80 km
2 × R-27T (AA-10B) infrared homing seeker, medium range AAM, 70 km
6 × R-73 (AA-11) short range AAM, 30 km
3 × Novator KS-172 AAM-L 400 km, Indian/Russian air-to-air missile designed as an "AWACS killer"

>>53114380
>You HONESTLY think the F-15s in the air are the same exact planes flying from the 1970s?

Still the same crappy design.

>>53114392
>They've been upgraded over the years with new technology.

Even Brazil does this.

>>53114405
>Even their tanks. They are buying optics and thermal sights from France as their in house stuff is absolute shit.

Abrams M1 uses a German turret and British armor. The only American thing in it is the engine.

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>>53114618
>R-77
>shitty grid fins and inferior tracking, takes forever to pitbull effectively making it SARH
>R-27 series
SARH, and thus completely useless:

In the 1999 Eritrean-Ethiopian War, Eritrean MiG-29s fought Ethiopian Su-27s both piloted by Russian mercenaries.[6] There were possibly as many as 24 R-27s fired by both sides. Only one R-27 fired by an Ethiopian Su-27 at an Eritrean MiG-29 proximity-fuzed near enough the MiG that the damaged aircraft eventually crashed on landing, giving the R-27 a hit ratio of only 4%

>4%

>>53114618
Does it matter when half the fleet is grounded due to poor engines?

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>>53114693
>Still the same crappy design.

That isn't how it works you fucking monkey?

>>53114588

>>53114693
Yeah, the west collaborates. Russia has to buy 2nd hand gear from the west for it's tanks. They are 20 years behind.

Did you know Russia doesn't have a single LCD manufacturing company?

>>53114693
The Russians don't have a single operational combat aircraft that didn't come from Soviet designs.

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>>53114753
but mah pak-fa

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>>53114721

>>53114733
>Russia has to buy 2nd hand gear from the west for it's tanks.

So does the USA.

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>>53114517
sauce on that pic?

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>>53114801

>>53114803
Yes, because they fucking collaborated. The Abrams and Leopard 2 splintered off from the MBT-70 which was intended to be both countries' MBT. The AMX-30 and Leopard 1 splintered off from the Eurotank.

>>53114803
wut? We buy top of the line. Russia has to settle for the older stuff as they aren't allowed to import the new stuff.

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>>53114803
Not even trying anymore lad.

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>>53114827

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>>53114855

>>53114852
Past the memes, the Arrow actually sucked and I'm glad we got starfighters instead.

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>>53114883

>>53114890
F-104s were also terrible.

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>>53114913

>>53114945
They were fast tho.

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>>53114955
Just noticed Cap is wearing his PC quite low in that last pic.

>>53114955

>>53114835
Imagine being USA's hat and having to buy everything from USA. Oh wait...

>>53114945
>>53114971
Also didn't hurt that their primary AA weapon was a fucking nuke.

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>>53114982

>>53114990
Better than buying shitty soviet surplus.

>>53114971
So what? So were lots of other things.

>>53114990
Jokes on you, we buy everything from Germany.

>>53114346

/discharged/ here, whats up lid?

>>53114990
Imagine being Brazil and buying all your equipment from NATO Oh wait...

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>>53114992
Coldware doctrine was so psychotic it was hilarious.

>>53114992
That's not true at all. The earliest Sidewinder was the primary armament.

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>>53114855
I have the same skiing goggles keku

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>non american military

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>>53115110
United States Naval Special Operations ApprovedTM

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>>53115181
This makes me hard

Stupid civie question, but what's up with the uniform variety? Some of these people are wearing pajamas with vests over them, while others are fully geared up with no skin showing. Is the difference PMC vs army? Are special forces allowed to dress however they want? What's going on

>want to post something here
>image limit reached

>>53115226
>Are special forces allowed to dress however they want?

In a way, yes.

They are a sterile and separate organ that operates within it's own circle, they don't abide by many of the "normal" dress/equipment regulations that your average 11B on deployment would abide by.

I mean, even if some dickhead LT wanted to call out some D boys on their beards he "theoretically" could but his career would be shit piled canned the moment those guys talked to their superiors.

You just don't tell those guys what they need to be wearing or look like.

>>53115358
You americans really do worship the military, don't you?

>>53115379
Well, it helps I was former mil, but yeah, a lot of Americans definitely do.

It was fun, but I like what I'm doing with my life now.

>>53115379
>You americans really do worship the military
except extermists(both rightists and leftists)

>>53114693

>still the same crappy design

holy shit you're stupid, or maybe i'm stupid for being trolled

>even brazil does this

with AESA radars and JHMCS?

>abrams uses german turret and british armor

german barrel with american depleted uranium munitions the euros are too beta to use

>british armor

not in a long time. they use depleted uranium armor now which is far superior. and you don't know anything about what makes a tank good if you discard all the american systems and sensors on there that make it as good as it is.

>>53113545
>I've never seen anything that would provide info on the plane have composites, it's entirely titanium.
Nice meme, faggot. Fuck off back to /k.
>Bпpoчeм, yжe ceйчac тихaя эвoлюция T-50 впoлнe ceбe виднa. Кaк cooбщил тeлeкaнaлy ЗBEЗДA Aлeкcaндp Дaвидeнкo, дoля кoмпoзитных мaтepиaлoв в oбщeй мacce пycтoгo caмoлeтa cocтaвляeт 25%, a пo пoвepхнocти caмoлeтa - 70%
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201504041654-uczy.htm

>>53105177
Shopped

>>53115656
Cool Russian blog retard, I'm sure you really proved me wrong.

You realize there isn't even any visible or technical specifications saying there are composites, right?

You can LITERALLY see there isn't any, and the Russians admit they don't have any done.

>>53115656
>However, now quiet evolution of the T-50 itself is quite visible. According to TV channel STAR Alexander Davidenko, the proportion of composite materials in the total weight of the empty aircraft is 25%, and the surface of the plane - 70%. Widespread use of composites in aircraft design has allowed to reduce its mass, and also substantially facilitate the preparation of mass production.

Random TV host for a propaganda TV channel saying he "thinks" there is composites doesn't mean there is composites

This made me kek pretty hard you even linked this bullshit

This would be like is Jimmy Fallon went to an AFB, looked at the F35, and said it was made out of diamond

>>53113076
Ezo (a plane engineer tripfag on /k/ who works for Lockheed) confirmed the shop.

On closer observation of the engine intake, the blades are not symmetrical. Ezo posted the 3mb version of the picture so we could zoom in an see what he meant.

So yes, it was shopped.

>>53115809
Link that thread

>>53115809
No, it isn't shopped.

>>53115809
http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=8b7d6b343ccc21c94711aaac2d9a8b92d549442b.111572

>>53115907
Its not shooped a tripfag on /k/ said it wasn't you dumbass now leave

>>53114753
Americans don't have a single operational combat aircraft that didn't come from Reagan times design.
>inb4 muh F-22
Shit from 80s.
>Muh F-35
Non-operational shit from early 90s.

>>53115960
uh why would we, F22 is better than anything else the Russians have, the F35 will be an even bigger gap than the F22 is, so why would we need to develop another frame when the Russians still haven't even caught up the F22? lmao

>>53115826
How?

>>53115858
No, it is shopped.

>>53115907
And how does that show anything? Somehow the black and white dots reveal editing?

>>53116001
>How?

Link the thread in the archive, also lol'd if you think some random tripfag on /k/ can tell a shoop, there is no digital artifacting on the image that would imply an alteration.

There is literally a thread on /k/ right now where they are all shitting on that plane because of those ducts, they don't think its shooped at all.

>>53115725
>blog
>>53115777
>propaganda TV

>Alexander Davydenko
>PAK FA chief designer
Nice meme, faggots. Fuck off back to /k.

>>53115994
The F-22 is better than the F-35.

>>53115994
Not him, but arguing that we are at least better than shit, isn't all that comforting.

The Russians are working with a post-Soviet nation of 140mil former communists and durkas.
We have 320 million semi-competent citizens.

I'd expect we'd be even further ahead desu.