What was the most shameful defeat/moment in your country's history?
When you got cucked hard.
This. Would be when frogs backstabbed us.
In any case muslims brought science, nice architecture and new farming techniques while visigoths just brought barbarism and death. I would consider being cucked by visigoths much worse desu.
What? No, arabs were pretty cool back then. The most shameful event of spanish history was the Peninsular war
We spent lot of money on developing Korea.
The upper photo of this picture in the mainstreet in Korean, Seoul in 1880.
And the downer one is that of in 1936, under the control of Japan.
It was such a useless efforts.
>Even the Christian kings said it was their fate to restore "Spain"
It's called creating a casus belli in the mindset of the peasants so they didn't get pissed off every time a king wanted to grab more land from muslims.
Losing our тpи мopeтa
Also sucking Turk dick for 500 years
Probably the last 30 years.
> gradually being absorbed by USA
> American media slowly eroding our national identity
> the only thing holding this country together are > muh multiculturalism > muh bilingualism
We're worse than Belarus.
Also, fuck the USA, I don't want to be annexed.
more like the best
bosniaks, croats serbs etc are the same people the same way germans or the french are despite regional differences
you just cucked yourself into becoming like 7 irrelevant country instead of one
We are not the same people. We never had anything to do with each other up until 1918.
Yugoslavia was an artificial project of the victor powers of WW1 and WW2.
For us (Croats) And Slovenes, Yugoslavia was a huge embarrassment. Being in a country with backwards, primitive and hostile Serbs, muslim Bosniaks and other subhumans from the Balkans, after a continuous and prosperous history with Austria, Hungary, Germany, Venice...I'm still ashamed of that chapter of our history. It was just humiliating. If you are so pro-Yugoslavian, try entering a union with Belarus, Ukraine and Russia. Then I'll spam you with messages how you are all ''the same people''..If you ever come to Croatia, if you don't want your teeth being punched out, don't ever say that Croats and Serbs are the same and don't say Yugoslavia was good, because it was not.
>Creation of Federal Reserve
>Senators directly voted on by people
>Civil Rights Act
The list goes on
But to the Muslim apologist Spaniard ITT, Spain has been since the Visigoths. The Moors and Ladinos we're occupiers, a foreign culture, not that of Spain or part of it's identity.
only spaniards self-haters are proud of the moor past. Most of spaniards only considere them like a fucking sandnigger invasors that were killed by the true spaniards.
ignore spaniards self-haters. they are a bunch of retards t.b.h..
>>Swedish invasion of 1655 because our king went "muh righteous swedish crown", our wealthiest nobles surrendered and turned on our king
Effects are comparable to the losses of II WW, consisting of your typical murder, burning and rape, but also throughout theft of any pieces of art and concentrating on burning catholic churches.
WW1 was the worst cause we had it all, everything was going for us, great industry created out of nothing, advances in sciences and technology by the minute, worker's rights were the most advanced in Europe, shitloads of Nobel Prizes, a strong army, a loyal and proud population, even some colonies, they were shit but you had to have them at the time. Germany didn't even exist 50 years before and they created most of it in such short period of time out of nothing. Then we threw it all away in a useless war nobody understood and have been JUST for the last 100 years, going from one extreme to the other while fucking our shit up in the process.
>In any case muslims brought science, nice architecture and new farming techniques while visigoths just brought barbarism and death. I would consider being cucked by visigoths much worse desu.
This, at that time Arabs >>>> Germanic barbarians
Partitions of Poland.
This ruined everything.
a pole calling somebody else butthurt, really?
>also you speak literally the same language
if you actually knew what you were talking about you'd know that was a recent thing, mainly because of muh pan-illyrism
and at least our language makes sense orthographically and isn't disgusting and defective like yours is
It could happen again if people don't get too complacent (fat luck though). Memes aside, creating all of that "out of nothing" has shown itself to be repeatable.
Also, I just want to say that Germany has the coolest, and most dramatic, unification and reunification ever. <3
It's not only Cadornas fault, you italicucks always couldn't into war
>number of police-recorded offences
>Gypsy doesn't know that in Sweden even staring at qt can be recognized like a sexual harassment
I don't want to say that's a good thing, but really amount of rapes exaggerated
You mean a diverse army of a nation not even 50 years old with different cultures, traditions and languages doesn't work?
The fact that we even managed to survive against the austrians and then win in Vittorio Veneto proves that we aren't that bad in war.
When our country was separated we had some great generals that led foreign or italian armies.
What happened in the second world war was disgusting homewhever, greece in particular is inexcusable.
>The fact that we even managed to survive against the austrians and then win in Vittorio Veneto proves that we aren't that bad in war.
The Austrian army was mostly destroyed in 1915 on the Eastern Front. The Alpine front was basically held by their shittiest parts of the remains of their shitty army and that says a lot. Vittorio Veneto was a victory after the US and France aided you, before that you didn't win shit, just like the Austrians didn't win shit until Germany helped them.
>The fact that we even managed to survive against the austrians
With french and other Entante allies help
>and then win in Vittorio Veneto
With french and other Entante allies help
>proves that we aren't that bad in war
That only proves you can't survive in a war without other countries help. You even got your freedom with french and prussian help.
Why are you so insisting that you were brave warriors ? Just admit the truth, Mario.
Österland really was closer to a colony than a genuine part of Sweden. It wasn't developed at all and was only used for taxes and drafts. Swedes didn't want to live there and were too lazy to defend it which is why Russia conquered it so easily.
You didn't """"""""enter"""""""""" Yugoslavia. You're pushed into Yugoslavia.
But it was for good. Tito the Greatest Leader ever, then you ruined everything and now here you are, being a Cuck.
being next to the USA in their imperialistic years
The Bourbon happening was good desu. At least until Carlos IV.
Hasssburgers is when things began to get fucked up. We just didn't noticed at the beggining because of the horos coming from America and the french-slaughtering party.
The Comuneros should have killed the flemish bastard.
>Swedes didn't want to live there and were too lazy to defend it which is why Russia conquered it so easily.
When Russia invaded Finland, Sweden was at war with Denmark-Norway and France and was expecting an invasion from the west. They couldn't send too many soldiers to Finland or else they would risk losing the rich provinces in the south or even the capital.
shit man you got me
that wasn't so bad. the real problem was the peninsular war. everything has been a landslide since then
>made us lose brazil
>made us fuck up africa and india -> pink map -> shit colonies
>fuck up relationship with the british -> shitty mason democracy -> dictatorship
>salazar dies, marcelo installs new shitty military law -> militaries get fed up -> 25 de abril -> lose africa and everything else
Being spread too thin was just the conclusion of the long term neglect. Finland was sparsely populated swampland, with one real town in the west coast as close to Sweden as possible. Swedish presence in Finland was marginal, since there were no investments there was no motivation to hold on to the territory and it was never properly settled. Being underdeveloped and unorganised also meant that Finland's own defensive ability was a joke, and the morale was low. Sweden had to send troops by sea all the way from Stockholm.
I ain't saying Sweden should've held on to Finland, fuck no. But you lost it due to your own shortsightedness.
You're a small country of 10M people. Irrelevance is only natural. As your happenings being in direct relation with our happenings.
Everything else in your history is just an illusion sustained by the english to pursue their dominance and best interests, and fuck with us.
España no existia, patán. Es más, probablemente tengas más antepasados moros que europeos. Los moros trajeron a la península tantos o más avances como los romanos. Vuelve al instituto y pídele a tu profesor de historia de 4º de la ESO que te de unas clases particulares antes de hacer el payaso.
We betrayed our American brothers (and maybe Indians) for what ? Money ?
1804...now, Haiti is a shithole...
We're not good at colonisation, but at least, New France was our first (and last...) white colony
lol it doesn't matter that some of our ancestors were different
right now most of us are the same
look at east and west herzegovina = same people, different faith
same with slavonia = same people, different faith
only thing i can agree with that southeners here have nothing to do with zagorje, slovenes, istra etc. but srsly the differances are so small you shouldn't try this hard to present yourself as anything special
> Sitting on /int/ late at night, watching the crying from Yes voters and Yank Scotaboos
genetic says you're wrong, though
both romans and moors didn't mingle much with the locals. we're still the same old celts and iberians. only the suebes and the goths mingled a bit
Was it? I'm not a fortune teller but the French and Indian War just underlines that New France was indefensible for France. The English colonists could take it essentially whenever they wanted, but an amphibious assault on Haiti might be trickier. France couldn't support the colony and properly defend itself on the continent at the same time, something had to give.
Battle of Fromelles, Battle of the Somme.
We lost something like 7,000 soldiers in 24 hours
>we are civilized croats, 100% germanic european, we're not serbs, we have literally nothing to do with filthy balkans, we're not serbs, we are totally germans, ruled by germans or hungarians for 1000 years (lol never independent) WE ARE NOT SERBS we dont even speak the same language its not even close to Serbian, danke Deutchland
well that too, but if kingdom of serbia never joined the newly created state of croats, serbs and slovenes, serbs would - as they were on the winning side of WW1 just annex most of the clay where serbs (orhtodox christians at least) were a majority
this guy actually thinks his country would exsist in those borders today if they never joined Kingdom SHS kek
>tfw I can identify both visigoth and moor genes in my physical looks
Nobody here thinks we are Germanic
However nobody also thinks that we are Serbs and thats what is bothering most of you bloodthirsty cleptomaniacs
we were independent at some parts in history (kingdom of Croatia, NDH)
we speak similar languages due to panslavic movements in 19. and 20. century, not the same
and yes danke Deutchland for being one of the first countries recognising our fight for independence againts barbarians
greatest serbian defaut was refusing the clay offered in London in 1915, in the name of liberating all "brotherly" Croats and Slovenes.We would get all the orange clay, Italbros would get green, and trecherous Croat snakes could continue to live in their beloved (smaller) Austria-Hungary (in white).
Its because we insisted on liberating our "brothers" that tensions with Italy lead to Italy funding Ustashe. Their beloved Pavelic, appart from massacring Serb children and women, also gave Dalmatia to Italy immediatelly.
>tl;dr refusing the Treaty of London and creating Yugoslavia was our greatest mistake.
most have brown hair and either blue or brown eyes, light skin
Iberians have those arabian eyes, black hair, olive complexion, you can spot it from a mile away
Then how do you explain the monster that I am?
lool you didnt accept this to save "brother" Croats and Slovenes. It wasnt called "veliko rjesenje" with no reason.
You knew very well that this was not some country where we would all be "the same".
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>also my sisters are blond with green eyes, but i have brown eyes and hair
I don't give a shit about your sister. My grandmother had a light blonde hair when she was young and very light blue eyes and this doesn't change the fact that the average iberian doesn't look like the average irishman.
"Rumor tells, Chiona, that you are a virgin,
and that nothing is purer than your fleshy delights.
Nevertheless, you do not bathe with the correct part covered:
if you have the decency, move your panties onto your face."
top fucking kek top banter
this is true cuckoldry
yellow is what we're right now
>tfw the last war your country truly won happened before it was even a country on its own.
rtve my friend.
>implying ecuador ever had land on the atlantic
What you just claim the whole Amazon or something?
If you want to be relevent just unify with your brothers in Peru.
Managed to supress every kind of rebellion, managed to supress any type of foreign invasion.
The bad part is he depended too much on european loans and the country had always a huge debt with british banks.
Having half our oversea territories handed over to the Anglos because Napoleon was in charge of the fatherland.
Literally the best leader of the whole america.
He's was made for it, his dad left the throne when he was a kid, he's was totally dedicated to be a emperor his education was build for it.
He knew how to speak many languages, very wise man.
Do you know that americans once wanted to elect him as president?
Spain promised soldiers that never showed up. Spain then benefited from his demise.
betrayed he was.
in his battle helmet 80 dents of sword and projectile blows, all from teh front, he never backed. And then a blow from an european grenade from the back. Some suggest he was assassinated( main suspect - spain).
brave but still naive for believing in teh spanish, a kingdom who wanted portugal since forever...
being anexed by spain gave england and holland who were enemies of spain a chance to attack our lands. thus our empire crumbled.
Battle of Krbava Field
>lost "our" king
>lost almost all our nobility
>half the country was under t*rk cockroach occupation for a hundred years
>Bosnia was forever lost to t*rks and their serb slaves
fucking t*rkish cavalry man they fuck shit up
The primeval seed of the corruption shit that has always been present in our history came to be at our infancy when the oligachies formed and the crown turned it's back to the political management of its colony and, as a result of this, we never did fully develop regulatory bodies to protect us from the selfishness that inheres inside the very nature of each of us.
Lack of control led to a waterfall of impunity mentality that ultimately ended up contaminating the few very privilegied that felt they could act above the law without a care in the world, which in turn also ended up leaking to the more sensitive uneducated mass of missfits and lower income individuals that has always unfortunately historically composed the bulk of our population and, thus, the "jeitinho brasileiro" became a deep rooted and cultural brazilian thing.
Children see their parents blindly complaining about the corruption that permeates our biggest political parties while they themselves driving through the hard shoulder in a highway so the get a few more minutes out of an intense traffic scenario; We steal and we are not compelled to confess if we're absolutelly sure we can get away with it.
Endemic corruption fucked us right up in the ass with a baseball bat covered in sand and broken glass and took from us a good ammount of useful technological, cultural and political advancements that are now lost in time. Our biggest defeat was our numbness and inaction that ultimatelly let shit to get out of control
>he doesn't have olive skin
That surname goes back to the 16th century, it tells you as much as "matamoros" about someone's genetics.
>he is damn tall
>t. Stojan "Cane" Stojanović 100% MAXIMUM CROAT NO SERB BLOOD AT ALL NOPE NO SIR
get over your fucking butthurt
your defensive denial only makes me think you are a catholic serb and not a true croat
A los progres no os vava entrar en la cabeza la realidad ni aunque os la reciten en verso con un altavoz.
Que lo de la sangre arabe es mentira.
Better the story that Pablo telled you without any scientific proof.
Because genetic and science in general are not usefull to describe reallity.
Ok, keep believing that we are moors and doesnt have visigoth blood, science is a lie, bye troll.
Well on a more optimist note it seems we're heading towards the right path now. There isn't by far historical precedent for the level of investigative effort on which Petrobras is currently being subjected to and this is certainly good. The fact the public finally seems to get a bit more aware and interested on political affairs is also a pretty nice (albeit still dim) light at the end of the long long seemingly decades long tunnel that we still have to transverse in order to get rid from this cancer from ourselves. The real bottleneck though is a need for a cultural generational shift by means of educational policies and a cohesive countrywide educacional plan but I believe we're going to get there eventually.
We are rich in natural resources and we have the most important element on earth in abundance. We are blessed with no seriouss natural disasters save for the ocasional floods. I look at all this and I sigh on how all this potential has been wasted over the years
portuguese never thought that rich colony for resources would get independence and this is the result
a failed country
and that is why i want the nuke to go off already
this world is fucking shit
Los haplo no valen para determinar el mestizaje. No recuerdo exactamente por qué pero lo han explicado por aquí más de 40 veces. Hay un estudio serio en el que salió que el país era 10% bereber, que no significa nada porque es un porcentaje muy pequeño, a eso sí le puedes otorgar validez. Bye, forocochero.
Regardless, those are the tools we have and that is the soil we harvest. We can either bitch and keep bitching on our misfortune or we can keep on living and try to strategize ways for us to improve our shitty condition. There are no other options and the first one is always a 100% change of either everlasting pain or pure blackness in the scenaro you proposed
Por no hablar de que es bien sabido que apenas se mezclaron con la población, como tampoco lo hicieron los moros o los romanos. Si eres español nativo de ojos y pelo claro lo más seguro es que lo heredaras de los celtas o las repoblaciones venidas del sacro imperio germánico y si tienes rasgos semitas los heredaras de los fenicios. Pero déjalo vivir en su fantasía donde los visigodos fueron relevantes.
south most latino countries have shit tier corrupt govt, the country is falling apart and they dont give a shit plus you have fag US watching everything is fine for its interest
if brazil right now enter a civil war, US will come and fuck shit up and repeat, install a puppet govt that dont give a shit about the country while it fills his pocket
the only way to fight corruption is with a revolution
that's rich coming from a nation of converted Greeks claiming to be from the steppes
Fabullus' wife Bassa frequently totes
A friend's baby, on which she loudly dotes.
Why does she take on this childcare duty?
It explains farts that are somewhat fruity.
I don't get it
> USSR didnt have all the bullshit the SJW promove
kek race mixing was literally forced and couples would be blackmailed by apartments back then especially in east and "asiatic" regions for example a couple of kazah+russian would get a free apartment in commieblock from gov in some ural shithole a russian couple would not etc. if ussr had the nigger supply they slowly were getting their hands on at the end of their fall we would be worse than france now.
This is a somewhat moot point given that America would've gained much more if Aecio came to power.
Even America being the Juggernaut they still are I don't think they could pull of this kind of influence (and/or other kinds of deep projected influence by products, surveilance or political treaties) in a globalized world such as this one. This is no post WW on which they could pull of a Rubber Plan without big global consequences
nah, it's liberalism in all its beauty
you know, libertinism, it isn't called being socially liberal for a reason
capitalism was the original degeneracy
sexual liberation and such bullshit, all came from usa
Simple the idea was to create a "universal" soviet human that could live, breed and promote soviet ideas anywhere however the soviet "scientists" discovered that people aren't very equal even on biological level for example people living in kaukaz mountains live a lot longer than normal yet radiation levels there are higher...they then examined some russian settlers living there and found that their lifespan and health decreased same with those highlanders if they were placed in cities all this went really against the ideology so they decided to start breeding two and promoting it. It was really widespread in those parts of soviet union and i know it sounds bizarre but such was life in good ol ussr.
>rape you're way into Europe
>pillage and raid eurocucks, fuck up the g*rmans and slav(e)s
>found a large country in pannonian basin, secured with mountains
>be badass and eat goulash
>Invaded by t*rks and rekt
>conquered by austrian pseudo-g*rmans
>Trianon leaves millions of magyars outside hungary
>Become Nazi puppet
>1956 Uprising crushed
>cucked by slav(e)s until 1991
>cucked by g*rmans since 2004
Where did it all go so wrong? Hungarian "history" is just shame and defeat and defeat
Everyone I really remember how niggers were pushed by soviet propaganda and all that friendship of race bullshit forced down the throats of children pioneer camps. Thought obviously you can't get many niggers in some Siberian village to breed locals with though obviously if soviet union was still up and running the biggest importer of grad A+ african semen would be ussr no doubt sweden and western europe wouldn't even dream to come close.
If you think about it, we were doing well until the 1500s. Then we royally fucked up in the at Mohács and especially during the aftermath of the battle. Pretty much every other great misfortune that ever happened to us after that could be traced back to the Battle of Mohács.
Es probable, pero esos genes no creo que vengan del 711, veo mas probable que vengan de las colonias fenicias de las era antigua y los cartagineses (vamos, practicamente lo mismo).
Aún así los pueblos berberes actuales son minoría en el norte de africa y bastante diferentes de lo que solemos ver como marroquí en españa (lo se porque conozco a uno personalmente, de Tánger y rubio con los ojos azules). Tambien tenemos otra parte semita (levantina) de colonias de la Edad Antigua (creo aue en total todo suma ub 20% o así) y de todas maneras ambas son caucásicas (no entiendo la manía de decir que los sirios y demás no son blancos).
Aún así las proporciones, como tu bien dices, son bajas, y no se corresponden con los supuestos 800 años de dominación musulmana que nos venden, mira Grecia o Italia por ejemplo, donde las proporciones de mezclacson mucho mayores, de hecho recuerdo un antiguo artículo que vi en Nature, donde la proporción de genética levantina en España era muy similar a la de Francia ( 10% contra 8% o algo así creo recordar).
Siento si he sonado rudo, pero estoy cansado del prototipo del español musulmoro que suelen usar para echar mierda encima los ee siempre. No soy de forocoches, pero si me das una invi te lo agradecería xD.
Me limito al R1b que es común en ambos pueblos, si viene de celtas o visigodos no lo se, y me da igual si es de unos o de otros, ambos contrastan con la mentira de "loz ezoañolez zomoh moro-panchos, África empeza en loz Pirineoz, etc".
I'd say one bad loss in 500 years is acceptable. Besides that was mostly due to not being prepared, so we beat the shit out of the mongols when they came back again.
>"loz ezoañolez zomoh moro-panchos, África empeza en loz Pirineoz, etc".
this is all just bullshit made up by the french anyway since they weren't doing anything interesting at the time while spain was