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What was the most shameful defeat/moment in your country's history?
When you got cucked hard.

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>>53078200
Spain didn't exist before the reconquista.
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>>53078200
>What was the most shameful defeat/moment in your country's history?

Entering Yugoslavia.
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>>53078261
>technicalities
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>2007
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the aegean islands not being ours currently desu.
but considering we are the invaders, it isn't too shameful
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>>53078261
This. Would be when frogs backstabbed us.

In any case muslims brought science, nice architecture and new farming techniques while visigoths just brought barbarism and death. I would consider being cucked by visigoths much worse desu.
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>>53078391
How is Italy claiming Roma full WE WUZ but Spain claiming Hispania and Al Andalus is perfectly fine? It's no different.
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>>53078200
What? No, arabs were pretty cool back then. The most shameful event of spanish history was the Peninsular war
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>>53078498
i haven't seen anyone disagreeing with italy
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1901
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1940 and 1812 in Russia.
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>>53078498
WE WUZ BERBERS AND SHEEIT

>>53078531
Early spanish islam was god tier desu.
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>>53078498
To be fair Spain was a thing before the Arabs. Did you forgot about Gothic kings? Even the Christian kings said it was their fate to restore "Spain"
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Well we changed our capital so that if Americans invaded they would die from cold
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>>53078200
Fall of Singapore, I guess.
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We spent lot of money on developing Korea.

The upper photo of this picture in the mainstreet in Korean, Seoul in 1880.
And the downer one is that of in 1936, under the control of Japan.

It was such a useless efforts.
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whole history of this shithole is shameful desu
it's hard to find a good period that lasted longer than 10-20 years
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>>53078601
>Even the Christian kings said it was their fate to restore "Spain"

It's called creating a casus belli in the mindset of the peasants so they didn't get pissed off every time a king wanted to grab more land from muslims.
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>>53078622
* the first "in "→is
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>>53078200
Didn't you import africans to rape spanish women during the civil war?
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>>53078200
>What was the most shameful defeat/moment in your country's history?
When we lost funland to Russia ;_;
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>>53078601
Modern Revisionism. The christians kings wanted to restore christianism, that's it.
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fall of singapore
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>>53078573
h-hey, some of us are still Berbers.
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>>53078699
That was to punish commie women and there isn't anything wrong with that.
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>>53078531

But didn't you win that war?
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>>53078772
At a high cost. We lost our colonies and got Ferdinand VII back.
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midway
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Being a swedish colony for 700 years.
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>>53078772
The brits and borbouns won, we lost
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This:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish%E2%80%93American_War

It was the last nail in our relevancy coffin.
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Losing our тpи мopeтa
Also sucking Turk dick for 500 years
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Probably the last 30 years.

> gradually being absorbed by USA
> American media slowly eroding our national identity
> the only thing holding this country together are > muh multiculturalism > muh bilingualism

We're worse than Belarus.

Also, fuck the USA, I don't want to be annexed.
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>>53078261
Hispania
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>>53078200
1917. Made us Sweden YES before Sweden.
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>>53079706
For me the most shameful parts of our history would be the Annual and 1898 dissasters.
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>>53079795
Even more, the whole history between 1812 until now.
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>>53078606
Which one was your first?
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>>53079768
USSR didnt have all the bullshit the SJW promove. Its actually thanks to our USSR past that we dont get that much shit as the west does.
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literally the unification
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Rancagua

Spaniards defeated us and restored the Royal government
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>>53079880
It made Russians tolerant to racemixing.
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When we got BTFO by a bunch of literal niggers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Adwa
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The Philippine Dinasty
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>tfw reconquista didn't expand to north africa
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>>53078200
basically all 1169-1921
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>>53078385
more like the best
bosniaks, croats serbs etc are the same people the same way germans or the french are despite regional differences
you just cucked yourself into becoming like 7 irrelevant country instead of one
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>>53079706
Hispania isn't Spain.
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>>53078200
moorish caliphate?
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>>53080431
Spain is not Spain
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>>53079881
Wait, when did Ireland unify?
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>>53080379

We are not the same people. We never had anything to do with each other up until 1918.
Yugoslavia was an artificial project of the victor powers of WW1 and WW2.
For us (Croats) And Slovenes, Yugoslavia was a huge embarrassment. Being in a country with backwards, primitive and hostile Serbs, muslim Bosniaks and other subhumans from the Balkans, after a continuous and prosperous history with Austria, Hungary, Germany, Venice...I'm still ashamed of that chapter of our history. It was just humiliating. If you are so pro-Yugoslavian, try entering a union with Belarus, Ukraine and Russia. Then I'll spam you with messages how you are all ''the same people''..If you ever come to Croatia, if you don't want your teeth being punched out, don't ever say that Croats and Serbs are the same and don't say Yugoslavia was good, because it was not.
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>Civil War
>Creation of Federal Reserve
>Senators directly voted on by people
>Civil Rights Act
The list goes on

But to the Muslim apologist Spaniard ITT, Spain has been since the Visigoths. The Moors and Ladinos we're occupiers, a foreign culture, not that of Spain or part of it's identity.
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>>53080169
> ethiopians depicting themselves as white
Fucking cucks.
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>>53078200
Nothing desu

We once lost a PM
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The day the Bourbons became our kings.
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>>53080860
only spaniards self-haters are proud of the moor past. Most of spaniards only considere them like a fucking sandnigger invasors that were killed by the true spaniards.

ignore spaniards self-haters. they are a bunch of retards t.b.h..
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>>53078428
thats not a defeat m8, not even a war

most shameful defeat was probably to the monteniggas
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>>53081449
It was a good occupation for your shitty siesta country
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>>53080833
butthurt
also you speak literally the same language
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>>53078200
>>Swedish invasion of 1655 because our king went "muh righteous swedish crown", our wealthiest nobles surrendered and turned on our king
Effects are comparable to the losses of II WW, consisting of your typical murder, burning and rape, but also throughout theft of any pieces of art and concentrating on burning catholic churches.
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>>53078541
>>53078619
>>53078391
>>53078699
>>53081158
>>53081158
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War
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>>53080833
bosniaks btfo out of croatia
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WW1 was the worst cause we had it all, everything was going for us, great industry created out of nothing, advances in sciences and technology by the minute, worker's rights were the most advanced in Europe, shitloads of Nobel Prizes, a strong army, a loyal and proud population, even some colonies, they were shit but you had to have them at the time. Germany didn't even exist 50 years before and they created most of it in such short period of time out of nothing. Then we threw it all away in a useless war nobody understood and have been JUST for the last 100 years, going from one extreme to the other while fucking our shit up in the process.
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>>53081449
>ignacio olagüe

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignacio_Olag%C3%BCe

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_revoluci%C3%B3n_isl%C3%A1mica_en_Occidente

http://www.fountainmagazine.com/Issue/detail/Myth-or-Reality-The-Invasion-and-Spread-of-Islam-in-Spain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVeWEQAzpw8
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>>53079869
york as I recall from history class, now just part of toronto
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>>53081514
come back flandes and fuck off, shitty barbaric protestant scum
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>>53078492
>In any case muslims brought science, nice architecture and new farming techniques while visigoths just brought barbarism and death. I would consider being cucked by visigoths much worse desu.
This, at that time Arabs >>>> Germanic barbarians
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>>53081529
Mmm, yeah, embarrassing

Disappointing 'bantz'
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>>53078413
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Partitions of Poland.
This ruined everything.
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>>53081515
>butthurt
a pole calling somebody else butthurt, really?
>also you speak literally the same language
if you actually knew what you were talking about you'd know that was a recent thing, mainly because of muh pan-illyrism
and at least our language makes sense orthographically and isn't disgusting and defective like yours is
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>>53081599
It could happen again if people don't get too complacent (fat luck though). Memes aside, creating all of that "out of nothing" has shown itself to be repeatable.

Also, I just want to say that Germany has the coolest, and most dramatic, unification and reunification ever. <3
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partitions in 1795, we had good run until our neighbours learned that you can bribe politicians in democratic monarchy
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>>53081909
WW1 and that miscommunication with germany.
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>>53078200
>al-Lixbuna
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>>53081972
Ignore the quote, forgot to erase it
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>>53081909
ok bosniak but your language is really primitive
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>>53081516
Yeah man, John II Casimir Vasa was even more retarded than his father.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_(history)
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>>53078413
Somebody cucked you in 2007 ? Never heard about that, tell me about that, kiwi senpai
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>>53080833
>croatia
>not just serbs in denial

Kek
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>>53078200
You know it senpai
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>>53078997
C'mon Pekka, stop trollin'
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>>53082100
>ROMAnians
>Not just gypsies in denial

Kek
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>>53080833
now tell me macedonians are not bulgarians
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>>53082177
>Sweden
>not arabs in denial

Mehmet pls.
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>>53082177
>swedes
>not just somalians in denial
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>>53080833
>"try entering a union with Belarus, Ukraine and Russia."
>Implying they weren't a union
>Implying Belarus and eastern Ukraine don't want to be unified with Russia.
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>>53082210
>Macedonians
>Nation
Pick one.
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>>53082230
>>53082241
>Gypsies triggered
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Caporetto

Fucking Cadorna man
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>>53082359
>Be from Sweden.
>Call anybody a gypsy.
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>>53082359
swedish "banter" everyone
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>>53082359
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>>53082403
It's not only Cadornas fault, you italicucks always couldn't into war
>>53082456
>number of police-recorded offences
>Gypsy doesn't know that in Sweden even staring at qt can be recognized like a sexual harassment
I don't want to say that's a good thing, but really amount of rapes exaggerated
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJQhDkpT5aY

And here we have the greatest accomplishment of the swedes.
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>>53082070
muh rugby world cup quarterfinals
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>>53082652
Oh?
You mean a diverse army of a nation not even 50 years old with different cultures, traditions and languages doesn't work?
The fact that we even managed to survive against the austrians and then win in Vittorio Veneto proves that we aren't that bad in war.
When our country was separated we had some great generals that led foreign or italian armies.

What happened in the second world war was disgusting homewhever, greece in particular is inexcusable.
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I want the Normans to leave
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>>53078200
To me it is everything from 1990 to 2016
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>>53082930
>event that elevated your country
>defeat
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>>53082892
>The fact that we even managed to survive against the austrians and then win in Vittorio Veneto proves that we aren't that bad in war.

The Austrian army was mostly destroyed in 1915 on the Eastern Front. The Alpine front was basically held by their shittiest parts of the remains of their shitty army and that says a lot. Vittorio Veneto was a victory after the US and France aided you, before that you didn't win shit, just like the Austrians didn't win shit until Germany helped them.
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>>53078200
Didn't know Spain existed during the Umayyad invasion
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>>53083020
So you liked ottoman times ?
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>>53083182
>Umayyad
>Umayy
>mayy
>ayy
lmao
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>>53083215
I didn't but it wasn't that shameful. Ottomans was very powerfull and we wasn't that shity in every way...
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>>53083274
>tfw that shit post made me laugh
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>>53083274
more like
>Umayyad
>U mayad
>U maad
>U mad?
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>>53083274
>Umayyad
>Umayd
>U mad
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>>53081403
Habsurgers were pretty bad as well. Inheriting Holland was a disaster and all the silver they wasted in the religion wars was useless. Just if Juan didn't die so young...
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1493 - present
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Cucked by Denmark, Sweden or both of them for a good 400-500 years
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>>53083600
it's called keeping balance in the force
you cucked them for 500 years before that
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Battle of Alcacer Quibir I guess

D. Sebastian was a huge fucking retard
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lost
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>>53082892
>The fact that we even managed to survive against the austrians
With french and other Entante allies help
>and then win in Vittorio Veneto
With french and other Entante allies help
>proves that we aren't that bad in war
That only proves you can't survive in a war without other countries help. You even got your freedom with french and prussian help.
Why are you so insisting that you were brave warriors ? Just admit the truth, Mario.
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This son of a bitch.
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>>53082124
Österland really was closer to a colony than a genuine part of Sweden. It wasn't developed at all and was only used for taxes and drafts. Swedes didn't want to live there and were too lazy to defend it which is why Russia conquered it so easily.
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>>53078385

You didn't """"""""enter"""""""""" Yugoslavia. You're pushed into Yugoslavia.

But it was for good. Tito the Greatest Leader ever, then you ruined everything and now here you are, being a Cuck.
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>>53078200
being next to the USA in their imperialistic years
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>>53085164
>lose wars
>lose teritorry
so unfair :'(((
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dont want to talk about it...
its pretty emberassing desu
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>>53080833
>enjoying getting cucked by krauts, habsburgs and water jews

Should I prep the bull for ya, Slavoj?
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>>53085335
But we finally save you from danish occupation
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>>53078200
Nothing compares to the invasion of the third world now happening in every european country.
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>>53085315
>Says Poland
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>>53081403

The Bourbon happening was good desu. At least until Carlos IV.

Hasssburgers is when things began to get fucked up. We just didn't noticed at the beggining because of the horos coming from America and the french-slaughtering party.

The Comuneros should have killed the flemish bastard.
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>>53078200

dunno m8, it's never realy happened
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>>53078563
1812 is only shameful on Russia's part. The fact that they were forced to burn and destroy their country in order to have a chance against the superior french army says a lot.
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>>53085336
>argentinian isn't even an ethnicity
>speaks spanish
>uses pesos
>cries about an island full of brits
calls other people cucks, top cuck
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>>53084358
>lost
You never even had them in the first place, kek
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>>53083045
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrying_of_the_North
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>>53085315
t. Poland
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>>53085064
>Swedes didn't want to live there and were too lazy to defend it which is why Russia conquered it so easily.

When Russia invaded Finland, Sweden was at war with Denmark-Norway and France and was expecting an invasion from the west. They couldn't send too many soldiers to Finland or else they would risk losing the rich provinces in the south or even the capital.
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>>53085839
t. Monaco
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>>53086002
t. Pineapple Dutch
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>>53086049
shit man you got me
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>>53080291
that wasn't so bad. the real problem was the peninsular war. everything has been a landslide since then
>made us lose brazil
>made us fuck up africa and india -> pink map -> shit colonies
>fuck up relationship with the british -> shitty mason democracy -> dictatorship
>salazar dies, marcelo installs new shitty military law -> militaries get fed up -> 25 de abril -> lose africa and everything else
>irrelevancy commence
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>>53080833
>w-we're all different i s-swear!!
>why doesn't spain annex portugal?
lol
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>>53084039
he was trying to continue with the algarves. he wasn't a huge fucking retard, just minimally stupid as any inbred guy like him would be. hasburgs weren't even that bad tbqh.
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>>53085934
Being spread too thin was just the conclusion of the long term neglect. Finland was sparsely populated swampland, with one real town in the west coast as close to Sweden as possible. Swedish presence in Finland was marginal, since there were no investments there was no motivation to hold on to the territory and it was never properly settled. Being underdeveloped and unorganised also meant that Finland's own defensive ability was a joke, and the morale was low. Sweden had to send troops by sea all the way from Stockholm.

I ain't saying Sweden should've held on to Finland, fuck no. But you lost it due to your own shortsightedness.
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>>53078200
in my ethnical history the most shameful moment was Gracco slaughtering/turning into slaves 80,000 Sardinians
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>>53087001

You're a small country of 10M people. Irrelevance is only natural. As your happenings being in direct relation with our happenings.

Everything else in your history is just an illusion sustained by the english to pursue their dominance and best interests, and fuck with us.
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7YW, WW2
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>>53081757
thats rich coming from a Sicilian
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>>53087490
thanks for the (you) and for the tasty bait my iberian amigo
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>>53087535
>>53081757
Is the joke that normans conquered Sicily?
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Losing New France
The embarrassing defeat, during WW2 (HUUUUR 6 WEEKS xDDDD)
(And maybe Franco-Prussian war)
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>>53080833
You are all same people pretending to be different because you believe in various versions of same kike god.
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>>53078200
Probably Balkan wars.
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>>53081449
Are you delusional?
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>>53087900
>Losing New France
New France looks good on a map but wasn't that profitable. France had the option of keeping Haiti or New France and it chose Haiti
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>>53088018
shoo shoo cockroach real people are talking
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>>53088018
Well that's actually your fault
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>>53080833
zasto kralju zasto
mislio sam da su samo slovenci takvi na intu
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>>53088312
They were divided based on religion even before Ottocucks came. They stayed that way 150 years after as well.
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>>53088203
That turned out to be a big mistake
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>>53088369
>Ottocucks
Delusional Turanshit, I see
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>>53078200

España no existia, patán. Es más, probablemente tengas más antepasados moros que europeos. Los moros trajeron a la península tantos o más avances como los romanos. Vuelve al instituto y pídele a tu profesor de historia de 4º de la ESO que te de unas clases particulares antes de hacer el payaso.
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>>53088369
yes but serbs wouldnt become so angry from being buttfucked by you and wouldnt go on a rampage
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>>53088444
No, Turanism is a retarded autistic finn invention as well.

I just don't like Ottocucks.
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Scotland.
18th September 2014
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>>53088203
We betrayed our American brothers (and maybe Indians) for what ? Money ?
1804...now, Haiti is a shithole...
We're not good at colonisation, but at least, New France was our first (and last...) white colony
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>>53088503
KEKLAND OF HARMONY AND UNITY
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>>53088540
Haiti was rich and prosperous back then.
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>>53088474
Vete a ceuta a comerle la polla a un moro
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>>53080833
lol it doesn't matter that some of our ancestors were different
right now most of us are the same
look at east and west herzegovina = same people, different faith
same with slavonia = same people, different faith
only thing i can agree with that southeners here have nothing to do with zagorje, slovenes, istra etc. but srsly the differances are so small you shouldn't try this hard to present yourself as anything special
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>>53088503
Scotland. No.
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>>53088503
> Sitting on /int/ late at night, watching the crying from Yes voters and Yank Scotaboos

Glorious evening
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When commies overthrew our government and begged Soviet Union to annex us.
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el que tienes que estudiar algo eres tu, me parece a mi.
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>>53088474
genetic says you're wrong, though
both romans and moors didn't mingle much with the locals. we're still the same old celts and iberians. only the suebes and the goths mingled a bit
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>>53078261
t. Albierto Barbosa
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>>53088474
El que debería mirar los estudios genéticos que hay sobre los españoles debería ser tú, ignorante. Y el concepto de España se remonta hasta los visigodos.
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>>53088386
Was it? I'm not a fortune teller but the French and Indian War just underlines that New France was indefensible for France. The English colonists could take it essentially whenever they wanted, but an amphibious assault on Haiti might be trickier. France couldn't support the colony and properly defend itself on the continent at the same time, something had to give.
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>>53078643
What about Jan 3 Sobieski who had kicked Turkish assess right next to Vienna? What about 1410 and Jagiełło , great victory?
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>>53088641
com quem estás falando homem
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>>53080833
Entering Yugoslavia after LOSING WW1 was the best thing that happened to you, or you'd have to current, modern-day Croatia in pieces. Serb would just take most of your clay lel
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>>53088729
A lo primero tienes razón, lo segundo es un meme. Pero el que citas es gilipollas y eso no se lo quita nadie.
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Battle of Fromelles, Battle of the Somme.
We lost something like 7,000 soldiers in 24 hours
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>>53088683
nigga look at the Irish or Welsh, you look completely different, you're not celts
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>>53088808
Best thing that happened to them was based Tito
without him they would be Chetnik clay at all
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>>53080833
>we are civilized croats, 100% germanic european, we're not serbs, we have literally nothing to do with filthy balkans, we're not serbs, we are totally germans, ruled by germans or hungarians for 1000 years (lol never independent) WE ARE NOT SERBS we dont even speak the same language its not even close to Serbian, danke Deutchland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ua1WB-fovQ
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>>53078622

hope you learned the lesson. Koreans are not worth it
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>>53088897
you've never been here have you
irish and welsh look A LOT like us
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>>53088898
well that too, but if kingdom of serbia never joined the newly created state of croats, serbs and slovenes, serbs would - as they were on the winning side of WW1 just annex most of the clay where serbs (orhtodox christians at least) were a majority
this guy actually thinks his country would exsist in those borders today if they never joined Kingdom SHS kek
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>>53088934
>irish and welsh look A LOT like us
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>>53087576

>implicando

Me voy al estanco a por tabaco y que os peten.
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>>53088640
I don't remember that happening. I thought USSR annexed Lithuania in 1940 at the same time Germany invaded France.
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>>53089085
não percebi um cu lol

>>53089048
it's a meme for a reason though. check out the genetics
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>>53089048
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>>53085164
I didn't know Republic of the Rio Grande was a thing.
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>>53078492
>tfw I can identify both visigoth and moor genes in my physical looks
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>>53089247
that's not how genetics work lol
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>>53089151
>>53089122
I know Spaniards and Portuguese people who live here, they look nothing like locals

t. Wales
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the risorgimento
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>>53088907
Nobody here thinks we are Germanic
However nobody also thinks that we are Serbs and thats what is bothering most of you bloodthirsty cleptomaniacs
we were independent at some parts in history (kingdom of Croatia, NDH)
we speak similar languages due to panslavic movements in 19. and 20. century, not the same
and yes danke Deutchland for being one of the first countries recognising our fight for independence againts barbarians
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>>53089297
probably cause most locals are anglo-saxons these days. let me guess, locals are blond, blue eyed, pale?
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>>53089047
greatest serbian defaut was refusing the clay offered in London in 1915, in the name of liberating all "brotherly" Croats and Slovenes.We would get all the orange clay, Italbros would get green, and trecherous Croat snakes could continue to live in their beloved (smaller) Austria-Hungary (in white).

Its because we insisted on liberating our "brothers" that tensions with Italy lead to Italy funding Ustashe. Their beloved Pavelic, appart from massacring Serb children and women, also gave Dalmatia to Italy immediatelly.
>tiptopkek

>tl;dr refusing the Treaty of London and creating Yugoslavia was our greatest mistake.
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>>53089368
locals are red haired, red eyed and feckled
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>>53089368
most have brown hair and either blue or brown eyes, light skin

Iberians have those arabian eyes, black hair, olive complexion, you can spot it from a mile away
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>>53089377
Stvaranje prve Jugoslavije je bila istorijska greška samo za Srbe.
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>>53088934
>irish and welsh look A LOT like us

t. Alberto Barbosa
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>>53089273
Then how do you explain the monster that I am?
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1866
1918
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>>53089411
true
celtiberians look like irishmen though
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>>53089411
iberians yes
celtics look like your description of the locals

>>53089495
inbreeding
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>>53089377
lool you didnt accept this to save "brother" Croats and Slovenes. It wasnt called "veliko rjesenje" with no reason.
You knew very well that this was not some country where we would all be "the same".
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>>53089517
>celtiberians

How the fuck do you know that? Do you have a time machine? Martial described celtiberians as hairy and dark.
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>>53089576
who is martial? also reminder what romans described as iberians and celts do not necessarily correspond to actual iberians and celts
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>>53080833

If it wasnt for us and our good will to liberate you, you wouldnt have your pathetic Croatia today.
At least, Serbs learned their lessons and third time there will be no Croatia.
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>>53089576
>>53089635
Celts weren't a race, they were a cultural and linguistic group

Iberians have always been dark and kind of Arab looking
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>>53089339
Go fuck yourself Fredi
There is no difference in being Slavshit
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>>53089663
TOP KEK
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>>53079549
Why didnt you take a fucking stand when they stole the Red Ensign?

You as in your people?

It was an awesome flag.
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>>53089505
don't forget 1809
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this upcoming presidential election
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>>53078200
Loosing Panama, the U.S basically took it away from us.
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>>53089635
>who is martial?

Well, he was a fucking celtiberian so he was describing himself.
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>>53089871
this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial
he was describing what he thought of himself
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>>53089824
>Panama only
This animated gif summarizes it all: How great have been our rulers and how great have been our neighbors.
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>>53090134
what gif
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>>53090134
>>53090193
Forgot to post
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>>53089969
>he was describing what he thought of himself

kek, exactly the same as you do but he doesn't want to be white so he is telling the truth
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>>53089576
>tfw I (really, I) say bs
With "celtiberians" I meant people like Bertin Osborne, i.e not that "mediterranean"
I'm not much of a /his/ fag, sorry.
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>>53090223
Wow it's like you guys have been cucked your whole existence as a country
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>>53090289
no, i'm really just using descriptions of what wikipedia tells me lol
also my sisters are blond with green eyes, but i have brown eyes and hair
we're a mix of many things nowadays
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>>53090369
Yes man. :(
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>>53090490
are you proud as a colombian or do you feel more like a latin american?
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>>53090340
>Bertin Osborne

Why would you know him? In any case link related.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_(name)
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>>53081449
This.

Whas is supose to be the good part of being invaded?
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>>53090378
>also my sisters are blond with green eyes, but i have brown eyes and hair

I don't give a shit about your sister. My grandmother had a light blonde hair when she was young and very light blue eyes and this doesn't change the fact that the average iberian doesn't look like the average irishman.
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>>53081514
So, this is why you are letting your shithole being invaded by them?

Piece of land that will be better covered by water.
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>>53090729
¿Has visto su trip? Es un musulmán viviendo en Holanda.
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>>53090559
that's a sort of existential question which i'm not feeling capable of answering
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>>53089969
"Rumor tells, Chiona, that you are a virgin,
and that nothing is purer than your fleshy delights.
Nevertheless, you do not bathe with the correct part covered:
if you have the decency, move your panties onto your face."

top fucking kek top banter
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>>53090369
this is true cuckoldry
yellow is what we're right now
>tfw the last war your country truly won happened before it was even a country on its own.

>>53090662
rtve my friend.
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Not really a single moment, the British colonisation was a slow process. Though a suppose when Ulster chose to remain with the crown was a bit of a kick in the teeth.
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>>53090856
>implying ecuador ever had land on the atlantic

What you just claim the whole Amazon or something?
If you want to be relevent just unify with your brothers in Peru.
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The republic.
I miss you so much, Dom Pedro II.
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>>53091214
How great was this guy in reality? His wikipedia article portrayed a very capable and noble ruler, but I assume that the article doesn't tell the whole story.
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>>53091322
he was kind of dictatorish and conservative, but a smart man
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>>53091214
That and Slavery.
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>>53090662
>>53090340
How is Osborne not Spanish looking? I would argue most people here look like him minus the light eyes. Certainly not like the average Irish.
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>>53091322

Managed to supress every kind of rebellion, managed to supress any type of foreign invasion.

The bad part is he depended too much on european loans and the country had always a huge debt with british banks.
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Focusing on the frenchies and not crushing yank treachery.Sorry world.
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Having half our oversea territories handed over to the Anglos because Napoleon was in charge of the fatherland.
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>>53091322
Literally the best leader of the whole america.
He's was made for it, his dad left the throne when he was a kid, he's was totally dedicated to be a emperor his education was build for it.
He knew how to speak many languages, very wise man.
Do you know that americans once wanted to elect him as president?

Kek.
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>>53091675

>Do you know that americans once wanted to elect him as president?

wat?
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>>53091618
Boer republic wasn't an oversea territory of the netherlands. It was independent, just happened to be populated by dutch people.
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>>53091397
He doesn't have olive skin, he is damn tall.
+that surname
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>>53091760
Boer Republics were independent states founded after the anexation of the Cape colony by the UK.
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>>53091675
>all this memeing
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>>53091397
Not to say that he isn't Spanish, but has obviously non Iberian ascendence
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>>53084039
Spain promised soldiers that never showed up. Spain then benefited from his demise.
betrayed he was.
in his battle helmet 80 dents of sword and projectile blows, all from teh front, he never backed. And then a blow from an european grenade from the back. Some suggest he was assassinated( main suspect - spain).
brave but still naive for believing in teh spanish, a kingdom who wanted portugal since forever...
being anexed by spain gave england and holland who were enemies of spain a chance to attack our lands. thus our empire crumbled.
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>>53078200
Battle of Krbava Field

>lost "our" king
>lost almost all our nobility
>half the country was under t*rk cockroach occupation for a hundred years
>Bosnia was forever lost to t*rks and their serb slaves

fucking t*rkish cavalry man they fuck shit up
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>>53078801

That's because you let the King go Full Retard
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The primeval seed of the corruption shit that has always been present in our history came to be at our infancy when the oligachies formed and the crown turned it's back to the political management of its colony and, as a result of this, we never did fully develop regulatory bodies to protect us from the selfishness that inheres inside the very nature of each of us.

Lack of control led to a waterfall of impunity mentality that ultimately ended up contaminating the few very privilegied that felt they could act above the law without a care in the world, which in turn also ended up leaking to the more sensitive uneducated mass of missfits and lower income individuals that has always unfortunately historically composed the bulk of our population and, thus, the "jeitinho brasileiro" became a deep rooted and cultural brazilian thing.

Children see their parents blindly complaining about the corruption that permeates our biggest political parties while they themselves driving through the hard shoulder in a highway so the get a few more minutes out of an intense traffic scenario; We steal and we are not compelled to confess if we're absolutelly sure we can get away with it.

Endemic corruption fucked us right up in the ass with a baseball bat covered in sand and broken glass and took from us a good ammount of useful technological, cultural and political advancements that are now lost in time. Our biggest defeat was our numbness and inaction that ultimatelly let shit to get out of control
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>>53091845
>he doesn't have olive skin
Literally summer.
>surname
That surname goes back to the 16th century, it tells you as much as "matamoros" about someone's genetics.
>he is damn tall
That's true.
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>>53079880

All that SJW bullshit is literal communist propaganda and agendas
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>>53080833
>t. Stojan "Cane" Stojanović 100% MAXIMUM CROAT NO SERB BLOOD AT ALL NOPE NO SIR

get over your fucking butthurt
your defensive denial only makes me think you are a catholic serb and not a true croat
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>>53092231
This. The biggest retard after Charles II of Spain
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>>53092260
the reward would be amazing if you could find a way to cure corruption
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>>53078965
The whole pacific theater of WWII really. Nobody even talks about it here, it's boring. The Germans however... they we're fucking strong.
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>>53080860
>Civil Rights Act
What an edgy faggot.
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>>53088474
A los progres no os vava entrar en la cabeza la realidad ni aunque os la reciten en verso con un altavoz.

Que lo de la sangre arabe es mentira.
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>>53088474
Por cierto, aprende tu de historia, que de Hispania ya se hablaba antes incluso de la invasión visigoda.
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>>53092914
>haploshits
lurkea mas
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>>53092914
so R1b is celtic and R1a is berber?
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>>53093024
>lurkea
se dice navega, analfabeta
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>>53093024
Better the story that Pablo telled you without any scientific proof.

Because genetic and science in general are not usefull to describe reallity.

Ok, keep believing that we are moors and doesnt have visigoth blood, science is a lie, bye troll.
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>>53093024
So they're not valid to you?
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>>53093038
I think that is more related with slavic genes.
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>>53093253
nah, slavic is the yellow one which doesn't show up in the key
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>>53092408
Well on a more optimist note it seems we're heading towards the right path now. There isn't by far historical precedent for the level of investigative effort on which Petrobras is currently being subjected to and this is certainly good. The fact the public finally seems to get a bit more aware and interested on political affairs is also a pretty nice (albeit still dim) light at the end of the long long seemingly decades long tunnel that we still have to transverse in order to get rid from this cancer from ourselves. The real bottleneck though is a need for a cultural generational shift by means of educational policies and a cohesive countrywide educacional plan but I believe we're going to get there eventually.
We are rich in natural resources and we have the most important element on earth in abundance. We are blessed with no seriouss natural disasters save for the ocasional floods. I look at all this and I sigh on how all this potential has been wasted over the years
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>>53089480
>>53089048
he's right lads
>curly, black hair
>dark skin
>brown eyes
all things shared by Scots, Welsh and Portuguese
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>>53093410
portuguese never thought that rich colony for resources would get independence and this is the result

a failed country

and that is why i want the nuke to go off already
this world is fucking shit
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>>53093410
it really is a shame, i really like brasil
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>>53093206
Los haplo no valen para determinar el mestizaje. No recuerdo exactamente por qué pero lo han explicado por aquí más de 40 veces. Hay un estudio serio en el que salió que el país era 10% bereber, que no significa nada porque es un porcentaje muy pequeño, a eso sí le puedes otorgar validez. Bye, forocochero.
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>>53084358
i dont mind that as much desu, whats worse is what came after that 1983-2015
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>>53093206
>visigoth blood
so what is the deal if you dont have germanic blood?

they were savage that pillaged the roman empire provinces and too their knowledges
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>>53090223
Soil is the foundation of the state. How do you just give it like that? With out war I mean
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>>53093909
money and corrupt politicians
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>>53093523
Regardless, those are the tools we have and that is the soil we harvest. We can either bitch and keep bitching on our misfortune or we can keep on living and try to strategize ways for us to improve our shitty condition. There are no other options and the first one is always a 100% change of either everlasting pain or pure blackness in the scenaro you proposed
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>>53093778
Por no hablar de que es bien sabido que apenas se mezclaron con la población, como tampoco lo hicieron los moros o los romanos. Si eres español nativo de ojos y pelo claro lo más seguro es que lo heredaras de los celtas o las repoblaciones venidas del sacro imperio germánico y si tienes rasgos semitas los heredaras de los fenicios. Pero déjalo vivir en su fantasía donde los visigodos fueron relevantes.
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>>53093909
What parts were given up without war? I can't read Spanish
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peron peron
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This
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>>53093973
More like the later: Corrupt fucks centralized in the capital
>>53094051
All of them
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>>53078200

I used to love this country
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>>53093976
south most latino countries have shit tier corrupt govt, the country is falling apart and they dont give a shit plus you have fag US watching everything is fine for its interest

if brazil right now enter a civil war, US will come and fuck shit up and repeat, install a puppet govt that dont give a shit about the country while it fills his pocket

the only way to fight corruption is with a revolution
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>>53094167
>a revolution
commie detected
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>>53088018
that's rich coming from a nation of converted Greeks claiming to be from the steppes
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>>53094087
money and corrupt politicians

US gave money to them
i will say it now, while the US exist, latino countries will never prosper
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>>53094083
That's not vietnam, son
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>>53094087

I thought Panama had an uprising
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>>53094231
it doesnt have to be a communist revolution, anon
a revolution to kill these US puppets and start over again to change this country for good
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>>53094273
If you watch the gif, you'll se most of our territorial loses were to countries different from the USA. Panamá was just their share on the picking.
>>53094284
More like an arson.
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>>53094258
before turkicization they werent all greeks

armenians, phyrians,etc
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>>53094277
Then you don't know much about this battle
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>>53080860
>Civil Rights Act
Kill yourself
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>>53094331
You cant start over now. Everything is connected, everything is explored and everything has an owner. Enjoy the ride until the collapse.
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>>53090855
Fabullus' wife Bassa frequently totes
A friend's baby, on which she loudly dotes.
Why does she take on this childcare duty?
It explains farts that are somewhat fruity.


I don't get it
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>>53094457
huh?
this country produces enough money to not have slums, crime and good prices for food
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>>53079880
> USSR didnt have all the bullshit the SJW promove
kek race mixing was literally forced and couples would be blackmailed by apartments back then especially in east and "asiatic" regions for example a couple of kazah+russian would get a free apartment in commieblock from gov in some ural shithole a russian couple would not etc. if ussr had the nigger supply they slowly were getting their hands on at the end of their fall we would be worse than france now.
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>>53080833
lmao you literally speak serbo-croatian

only rly different people were slovenes, bulgarian macedonians and albanians
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>>53094516

>gif
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>>53094167
This is a somewhat moot point given that America would've gained much more if Aecio came to power.
Even America being the Juggernaut they still are I don't think they could pull of this kind of influence (and/or other kinds of deep projected influence by products, surveilance or political treaties) in a globalized world such as this one. This is no post WW on which they could pull of a Rubber Plan without big global consequences
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>>53079706
Hispania wasn't a country.
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>>53094596
>Plan Rubber
mah bad
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>>53094573
Was this racemixing solely between easterns and wersterns or did they import "specimens" from other parts of the world?
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>>53094546

With your giant nose and cock
I bet you can with ease
When you get excited
check the end for cheese.
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>>53094516
why did the western people hated hungary and serbia so much they robbed them of most of their clay?

I mean even to fucking austria, lol
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>>53094573
why would they promote race mixing then?
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>>53092353
nah, it's liberalism in all its beauty

you know, libertinism, it isn't called being socially liberal for a reason

capitalism was the original degeneracy

sexual liberation and such bullshit, all came from usa
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>>53094775
I think they just didn't give a shit
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>>53094775
Because Hungarians were a minority in those places
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>>53094985
So if we annexed all of Austria right now would it would be rightful, because Austrians would be the minority in the country?
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>>53094802
Simple the idea was to create a "universal" soviet human that could live, breed and promote soviet ideas anywhere however the soviet "scientists" discovered that people aren't very equal even on biological level for example people living in kaukaz mountains live a lot longer than normal yet radiation levels there are higher...they then examined some russian settlers living there and found that their lifespan and health decreased same with those highlanders if they were placed in cities all this went really against the ideology so they decided to start breeding two and promoting it. It was really widespread in those parts of soviet union and i know it sounds bizarre but such was life in good ol ussr.
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>>53094516
Hungarian History:
>rape you're way into Europe
>pillage and raid eurocucks, fuck up the g*rmans and slav(e)s
>found a large country in pannonian basin, secured with mountains
>be badass and eat goulash

But then:
>Invaded by t*rks and rekt
>conquered by austrian pseudo-g*rmans
>Trianon leaves millions of magyars outside hungary
>Become Nazi puppet
>Monarchy abolished
>C*mmunist rule
>1956 Uprising crushed
>cucked by slav(e)s until 1991
>cucked by g*rmans since 2004

Where did it all go so wrong? Hungarian "history" is just shame and defeat and defeat
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>>53095095
What? Why should Hungary rule over people that aren't even Hungarian?
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>>53089339
So killing people is acceptable if you're tall and handsome ?
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>>53095150
Probably because they aren't pussies on an island
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>>53095178
Why should Slovakia/Romania/Serbia rule over Hungarians?
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>>53095098

kinda like aryans except with shitcoloured skin, no wonder more than half of the commies i come across aren't white
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>>53095150
Inshort:
>cucked by turks
>cucked by germans (austrians)
>cucked by the ww1 allies
>cucked by germans (nazis)
>cucked by russian
>cucked by germans (EU)
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>>53095260
Communism is poor man's fascism
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>>53094695
Everyone I really remember how niggers were pushed by soviet propaganda and all that friendship of race bullshit forced down the throats of children pioneer camps. Thought obviously you can't get many niggers in some Siberian village to breed locals with though obviously if soviet union was still up and running the biggest importer of grad A+ african semen would be ussr no doubt sweden and western europe wouldn't even dream to come close.
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>>53095248
Because we lost the war
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>>53095150
Curse of Turan
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>>53095353
That's true. Internationalists they are, commies are the biggest SJW ever, conveniently denouncing anything related to western capitalism as crimes against a decent society.
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>>53093778
It is not better or worse than any other people, I am just looking for ther truth hidden behind all this political shit.

I dont believe in aryan race and those shits.
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>>53095150
If you think about it, we were doing well until the 1500s. Then we royally fucked up in the at Mohács and especially during the aftermath of the battle. Pretty much every other great misfortune that ever happened to us after that could be traced back to the Battle of Mohács.
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>>53093633
Es probable, pero esos genes no creo que vengan del 711, veo mas probable que vengan de las colonias fenicias de las era antigua y los cartagineses (vamos, practicamente lo mismo).

Aún así los pueblos berberes actuales son minoría en el norte de africa y bastante diferentes de lo que solemos ver como marroquí en españa (lo se porque conozco a uno personalmente, de Tánger y rubio con los ojos azules). Tambien tenemos otra parte semita (levantina) de colonias de la Edad Antigua (creo aue en total todo suma ub 20% o así) y de todas maneras ambas son caucásicas (no entiendo la manía de decir que los sirios y demás no son blancos).

Aún así las proporciones, como tu bien dices, son bajas, y no se corresponden con los supuestos 800 años de dominación musulmana que nos venden, mira Grecia o Italia por ejemplo, donde las proporciones de mezclacson mucho mayores, de hecho recuerdo un antiguo artículo que vi en Nature, donde la proporción de genética levantina en España era muy similar a la de Francia ( 10% contra 8% o algo así creo recordar).

Siento si he sonado rudo, pero estoy cansado del prototipo del español musulmoro que suelen usar para echar mierda encima los ee siempre. No soy de forocoches, pero si me das una invi te lo agradecería xD.
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>>53094036
Me limito al R1b que es común en ambos pueblos, si viene de celtas o visigodos no lo se, y me da igual si es de unos o de otros, ambos contrastan con la mentira de "loz ezoañolez zomoh moro-panchos, África empeza en loz Pirineoz, etc".
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>>53095979
Mongol invasion in the 1200s wasn't doing so well.
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>>53096412
I'd say one bad loss in 500 years is acceptable. Besides that was mostly due to not being prepared, so we beat the shit out of the mongols when they came back again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Mongol_invasion_of_Hungary
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>>53096308
>"loz ezoañolez zomoh moro-panchos, África empeza en loz Pirineoz, etc".
this is all just bullshit made up by the french anyway since they weren't doing anything interesting at the time while spain was
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>>53096843
I thought that it was part of the Black Legend and Napoleon stories.
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>>53097246
>África empeza en loz Pirineoz
the person who said this was a french count supporter of napoleon, the rest i have no idea what you're talking about sorry
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