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What does /int/ think about Greece?

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What does /int/ think about Greece?
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>>33009663
Pay denbts
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Better than Chile
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>>33009663
Great history
Great culture
Great food
>inb4 denbts
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>hurr durr i am christian you should love, support, and gibe me denbts durr hurr
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A bunch of barbarians
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Turks in denial, pretty much
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Nothing
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I like em.
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>>33009780
I expected better from you Italy, dissapointing
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The best neighbor

Greece
Georgia
Bulgaria
A FUCKING POWER GAP
Iran
Syria
Armenia
Iraq
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>>33009663
Yet another greek bashing thread because 1 was obviously not enough. Go fuck yourself
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whitest country on earth
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>>33009936

No this is a Russian bashing thread
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>>33009936
Where the fuck was I bashing you? If you take that so offensively, why don't you prove us wrong. It seems like no one agrees with you on being the same people, and you have yet not refuted a single post. This post is about greece in general, if it turns into an argument and your little turkish heart gets offended, close the tab and move on.
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Bros, they are not as bros as italians or the gabachos, but still.
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>>33009663
Nonwhite shithole that makes me sad because it was pretty great just few centuries ago
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>>33010074
It didn't exist a few centuries ago m8. Get your facts straight.
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>>33010074
but a few centuries ago we were under the Ottoman Empire rule.
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>>33010022
>Where the fuck was I bashing you
Your first post literally depicts a shit coloured greek pissing his pants with flies around him, retard
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>>33009747
You're just mad because you lost the life lottery by being born brown in a muslim shithole son.
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>>33010112
>>33010123
>hellenic era ended 34 000 years ago
jdimsa
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>>33010130
well he's muslim being mad is part of their dna
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>>33009663
fix the flag
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>>33009663
Grease is a shithole
Like most of Europe
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>>33010022
> It seems like no one agrees with you on being the same people, and you have yet not refuted a single post.
pls not this again
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>>33010022
>>33010364
what happened?
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>>33009663
A country that got stabbed in the back by Western Europe, then got fucked by Turks and now is the butt of the jokes that are said by the same people who fucked them over. Beautiful country though.
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>>33010362
USA pls adopt
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>>33010426
To whom?
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>>33010506
>tfw Macedonian
>tfw pale
Accurate
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>>33009663
bunch of mad people
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They are very nationalistic.
According to Afrocentric scholars, Greeks are descended from Egyptians.

But they look Arab to me. It is probably because of the wars among all those countries.
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Shamefur dispray for their great ancestors
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>>33010670
>Afrocentric scholars
topkek
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>>33010670
>Afrocentric anything
They're the tinfoil hats of academia.
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So tsundere.
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>>33009747
kek saved
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I like Greece, and the Greek people.
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>>33010506
Source please.
Very interested to read.

Contributing with:

http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/hellenes/

https://www.flashback.org/sp38766945

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pgen.1004401#s2

http://greek-dna-sub-saharan-myth.org/greeks-sub-saharan.html

I also suggest people should read about the Pelasgians.

placed
freeDNA
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Bullying hurts guys
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>>33009747
But I never argue with anyone, half of my posts are usually rants about exterminating muslims and the other half just rants about how dumb and brown you are.
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>>33010942
>hurr durr
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>>33009747
Recep, pls

The only reason you were able to destroy Byzantium, the scion of culture in the East was because of all the men you could muster by taking them away from women you raped. And then you proceeded to destroy everything they had built over the years, making the entire region the shithole that it is today.

In 5 years' time:
>be turkish
>get beheaded

ALLAHU AKBAR
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>>33010852
Is this that neo-nazi qt3.14?
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>>33010966
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The dembts, Grease, the dembts. Maybe you should cancel them.
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>>33011015
Accurate. What is it with Bulgarians and having a weird skin tone? That lightish yellow, it's a little weird.
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>>33010966
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>>33010870
races of europe, page 604-609
https://archive.org/stream/racesofeurope031695mbp#page/n15/mode/2up

: Angel, J. Lawrence, 1944, A racial analysis of the ancient Greeks: An essay on the use of morphological types, American Journal of Physical Anthropology

People of Lerna (http://www.ascsa.edu.gr/index.php/publications/book/?i=9780876613023)

Or just any piece of population anthropology that cites research on ancient greek material. Or any piece of greek art, really.
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>>33011015
Accurate.

>>33011070
OOGA BOOGA
FUCK OFF SOMALIAN
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>>33011060
they are mongol-slav hybrid
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>>33010966
What? Bring me one post that I argue with someone, there are non existent, I would never ever argue with "people" I consider racially inferior.
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>>33009663
Good country, just needs to elect Golden Dawn sooner.
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>>33011015
>wearing skirts
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Greece!

Pros:
+ Fantastic Bronze Age historical legacy
+ Has its own language script to itself
+ Beautiful landscapes
+ Great indigenous religion
+ QT girls and handsome men generally
+ Greeks abroad, at least Greek-Americans, are hard-working and wholesome qt people who make good food
+ Decent Byzantine history legacy too

Cons:
- Modern Greek architecture and sprawl, especially poorer parts of Athens, is awful
- Very politically butthurt and prone to extremism
- Economic and job difficulties
- Too much residual Turkish influence
- Dislikes Germany, scapegoats Germans too much
- Doesn't worship the old gods anymore
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>>33011166
Agreed
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>>33011126
>bring me one post that I argue with someone
>I
>in an anonymous taiwaneese carpentery website
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>>33011199
See, I told you nigger shit that don't argue with shitskins but yo didn't believe me smh.
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>>33011160
>this comes from the country where oil wrestling is a national sport
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>>33011040
No.

>>33011085
Thanks.
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Meh she looks better in this pic
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>>33010870

> Pelasgians

It is what connects Albanians and Greeks : D
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>>33011166
Agree with every one of these except for the last one.
I've climbed Olympos I know what's up there
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Προσταγμα?
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>>33009663
pan dentsx
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>>33011355
actually its what connects all the Balkans
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>>33011414

interdasting

so it is saying the greeks are continued from ancient greeks or not? are greeks just kebab
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>>33011355
It is what connects everyone in the Mediterranean, the Balkans, and Asia Minor with the Greeks.
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>>33011449
what? Pelasgians are those who lived in the Balkans (and maybe in other places around mediterranean too) before any Indoeuropean go there
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>>33011566

Pelazgs are Indo-European m8y
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>>33011607
no. go read about them again
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>>33011607

no
[diff anon[
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>>33011449
According to recent scientific research
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>>33011414
Pelagoi weas a term that was used fromcthe Greeks to describe all prehellenic peoples from Greece., not all the Balkans.
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>>33011449
No and yes.

Pelasgian is a very broad term that no one knows what it means. Ancient greeks were a mix with mostly neolithic component from the levant and anatolia, native paleolithic component, indo-aryan migration from anatolia later on as well as an indo-european migration from the pindus mountains and the general area below the danube.

Add to that some slavic influence in northern greece, a bit of recent northern anatolian/caucasian that pontic greeks brought over during the population exchange and some paleo-balkanite (an ancient component that classical greeks had as well) and you have modern greeks.

They are pretty much similar to the classical/roman era ones but with those minor influences as well. The more north you go in greece after thessaly, the rule is, the more outside influence you will find.

This shows in DNA also as greeks except for pontics share 0 recent ancestry with turks (it's the opposite-western turks have recent greek ancestry, islamized greeks from old Ionia) but quite a bit with mostly southern albanians, serbs and bulgarians as well as italians.
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Ετοιμος.
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>>33011629
>>33011650

Sorry I mean Pelasgian, Pelazg is Albanian spelling.

> ishin një popull i lashtë indo-evropian
> a ancient indo-european people

http://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pellazg%C3%ABt

I don't know, but so what are the Pelasgians?
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>>33011607
no, and they have nothing to do with Albanians
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Βούλομαι.
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>>33011709
The deal is though that indo-europeans were very few in greece and already tried to impact a very advanced and populous civilization. (the myceneans did not build the cyclopean walls-it was the "pellasgians") and had already received more neolithic input as they went more south into the balkans which resulted in them looking more and more dark as they kept heading south.

The thracian nobleman for example that was found buried scored 20% less north european than the slave that was found tossed in a pit (the nobleman was buried in a big shaft grave filled with gold and weapons) and much more west asian.

In general, the people in eastern and southern europe are far older than the ones in the north and west and are the ones who had a genetic impact due to their high population and colonization-just look at greek colonies, they were all over the mediterannean and they kept expanding until they all became regional superpowers of their time. (even massalia in southern france, so far away from the mainland metropolis)
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>>33011763
Pelasgians are probably the people the Greek tribes found in Greece when they went there and mixed with them.
But there are other theories as well, nobody is sure.
Some Greek cities still have Pelasgian names.
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>>33011763
>albanian wikipedia?
r u fur real m9
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>>33011740
ARKANTOS

MY NIGGGER
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>>33011763
>>33011772
Albanians and greeks share the same proto-greek as well as doric component. They are also the balkan populations least affected by the slavic migrations and live in the same penisula.

South albania was the sight of old greek colonisation and parts of greece received albanian immigrants during the late medieval age-no wonder they will be related with all these migrations, back-migrations.

But the pellasgians did not speak an indo-european language.
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>>33011663

pls stop

James was a senile poophead

http://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/afrocent.html

http://web.uct.ac.za/depts/ricsa/jtsa/j99/j99njeza.htm

http://www.kritike.org/journal/issue_6/urstad_december2009.pdf
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Beautiful landscapes, beautiful food, beautiful women, beautiful historical sites, a fantastic history and mythology, revolutionary philosophy...Greece is like a home from home for me. I love the islands too, Rhodes in particular.
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>>33011982
You seem educated, why do Albanians look so ugly?
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>>33011940
Check these:

Lemnian Language
Lemnos Stele
Tyrrhenean Languages

They have found an old non-IE language in Lemnos(it was known that they spoke a pre-greek one until the clasdic age) and all the ancient writers were saying that the Lemnians were Pelasgians(related to the original inhabitants of Athens)

Also, there are stories that a lot of Pelasgians fled to Italy and some connected them with the Etruscans.
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>>33011862
[spoiler]Skepan[/spoiler]
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>>33009663
The city I was born in was named after a Greek city. hint hint
And it does have some Greeks too.
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>>33011982
m8 I can spot an Albanian from miles away. We are not the same. They look very different from us.
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>>33012123
Ellinas eimai btw.

And I'm trying to pass on what I know and studied. Links have been provided and as for the rest you can always look up dodecad for y and a dna. So at least don't fall to OPlevel and try to keep the discussion civil.

>>33012125
The Etruscan thing is not entirely true. Ancient greeks named everyone Pellasgian and kept fighting over who was the purest greek. (just read herodotus, he keeps making fun of them, especially the ones from Ionia)

Etruscans were mostly compromised of native italics. Morphologically they are similar to central italians.
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>>33012269
>Ancient greeks named everyone Pellasgian and kept fighting over who was the purest greek. (just read herodotus, he keeps making fun of them, especially the ones from Ionia)
some other Ancient Greeks said that the Pelasgians were Greeks
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>>33011166
Good post and agreed on all points

Turks/Arabs "Hhuehuehueh we FAk ya Matha huehueh Greeks r shitskin!! we are whiiiiiiitee!!"

Top 3 most famous comedians on Earth are Greek

Tina Fey, Zach Galafanakis, Jennifer Aniston

Greeks continue to be dominate in theater like always in history
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>>33012240
They have very round or square heads, true. But they are a mostly dinaric population, especially in the north, adapted to mountain life. Those also exist in greece but are very reduced due to mixes with other greek phenotypes or other reasons.

But genetically they share components with greeks.
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>>33009663

Paradise compared to your Latino countries
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australia is basically greece 2.0

t. greek diaspora
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>>33012125
wow I didn't know about that thing in Lemnos.

>mfw my mom is from there
:DD
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>>33012323
All ancient greeks said they were Pellasgian because that pretty much meant they were autocthonous. Some athenian wanker said that the thracians were not human but mixed with animals hence their dumbness. Didn't make it any more true.

Point is Pellasgian is a blanket term. Doesn't really mean much. Probably a mixture of all the peoples from the early bronze age back to the paleolithic.
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>>33012269
Check the Tyrrhenean languages that I said before m8.
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>>33012075
Old Castle in Rhodes is amazing isnt it?
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>>33012513
why are americans obsessed with old buildings, lakes and mountains?
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>>33009780
And you're a greek in denial, terrone :-DDD
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>>33012511
Yes, I know the linguistic theory. But it's not very strong and genetics apparently don't support it.
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>>33010670

>afrocentric

What can you expect from people of your colour with an extremely low IQ?
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>>33010696

We survived thousands of years, you on the other hand will never see white skin in the next century
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>>33009780
The largest non-Greek genetics in Modern Greek is Slavic with 10-15%

Italian is also 10-15% but I do not consider that separate from Greek

Greeks are the most racist/Xenophobic people on Earth since Pre-History . .I don't think anyone could understand the Greek mentality, including Italians.
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>>33012761
>Greeks are the most racist/Xenophobic people on Earth since Pre-History
[citation needed]
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>>33012801
Τον αράπη κι αν τον πλένεις το σαπούνι σου χαλάς ;)
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>>33010966

Half of your population is brown and you still continue with that propaganda
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>>33012761
This chart is weird as fuck. Greeks do not cluster with Ashkenazim at all. No idea what that GR2 cluster is.

In every cited study I've seen one group clusters with central italians, another with southerners.
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>>33011160

The Scots prefer them over man-boobs
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>>33011862
[prostagma] metales [/prostagma]
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>>33012828

Half of yours is goblin.
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>>33009663
dude what cuntry is your flag.
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>>33012586
The linguistic theory is indeed not very strong, and genetics support it:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_origins#Genetic_evidence
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Greece is alright. But needs more qt boys.
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>>33013176
fug of homo :DDD
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>>33013202
I will, will you join me ;)))
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>>33012957
its texan flag
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>>33012952

Hitler had brown eyes
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>>33012828
Albanians/Turks/ARabs are the ones who project their insecurity onto Greeks

You could show them 1,000 Genetic studies, Anthropology studies, historical texts, etc it wont matter.

The fact is that Modern Turks = 150+ million Roaches that joined Ottomans from across Balkans-East asian world and became Muslim to reap the Empire's benefits

Modern Greeks = Orthodox Greek who descend from Orthodox Greeks of Byzantine/Ottoman times who stayed loyal to religion/people

Turks will never understand that some countries actually have standards and actual history/ethnic nationalism
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>>33013269
Hitler had blue eyes, are you retarded?
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>>33013347
lol
stormweenie detected
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>>33013347
wasn't he a jew
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>>33013347
pls canadia
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>>33012961
Weird. Y-dna correlates with modern tuscans and has an anatolian cluster but mt-dna studies are split between whether they are tuscan or southern german.

Possibly the "etruscans" were a conquering minority from anatolia that made up the upper classes and the lower ones were neolithic populations from central europe.
http://dienekes.blogspot.de/2013/02/etruscan-mtdna-origins-ghirotto-et-al.html

But samples are too low to really make anything out of it. Etruscans really did not leave much of anything for us.
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>>33013347

Farbe der Augen, braun
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>>33012961
>>33012859
I remember you guys from before

please more anthropology related links and images
everything you got really
also,anything on geates/getae ,thracians too
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>>33013391
Whatever they were though, they certainly weren't white, lel.

Weird thing is that the minoans cluster exactly on top of cretes from the central and eastern part of the island and very close to greeks (first and foremost) particularly the ones from the south.

If only we had more etruscan samples...I wish we find intact remains in Amphipolis so we can finally see if northern greeks were more "balkanic" than southern ones.
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Daily REminder this is the guy calling you shit-skin
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>>33013391
m8, quit pretending to be a biologist and stop posting blogspots....
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>>33009663
They're ok, I don't like yogurt, feta and all that though.
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>>33013540
not even tzatziki?
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>>33013533
He has a link to the study. I trust him enough to post his sources and he does.
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>>33012181
tennessee is a great state.
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>>33013540
I don't yogurt either, but feta?? heretic pls.
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>>33013631
Greek yogurt + Greek honey is the food of the gods . .

Mixing them together is better than any ice-cream, also they are both classified as "super-foods" which is very rare, i think theres only 20-30 official super-foods total
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Nice people but your diaspora is so nationalistic it makes me cringe.
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>>33013673

>Greek yogurt + Greek honey is the food of the gods
Ambrosia is the food of Gods

>Mixing them together is better than any ice-cream
no

>they are both classified as "super-foods"
honey yes, but yoghurt no
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>>33013723
I have alot of family in Melbourne(Greeks)

Yes they are Nationalistic . .but they would also die for Australia without a 2nd though and they are hardcore Aussie Nationalist . . Greeks arejust Nationalist in general, don't take it as a bad thing.

Unlike Lebs/Mudslimes in Australia, they would never fight for AUstralia, they are enemies of Christians and will always be that
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>>33013792

I disagree, seeing that I live around them, see them everyday and went to school with many, many Greeks. I can say that they always put Greece first for no reason other than being told it's "da best".
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>>33013792
stop talking about Greeks like you know everything about
have you ever lived in greece or do you speak greek?
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>>33013723
>>33013841
when you have to pick between ausfailia and based greece the choice is obvious
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>>33013841

Normal process. Thats why the Chinese are so successfull there and in Canada.
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>>33013841
The thing is when I talk to them, my Greek-Australia family they never stop talking about how great Australia is
>>
So basically in order to fix Greece we need to compare their salaries to their expenses. You could say that it is a real "heavy duty challenge"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coOC_BqfsUY
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>>33012125
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemnian_language#Lemnos_Stele
hulaieš:naφuθ:šiaši
maraš:mav
sialχveiš:aviš
evisθu:šerunaiθ
šivai
aker:tavaršiu
vanalasial:šerunai:murinail

hulaieši:φukiasiale:šerunaiθ:evisθu:tuveruna
rum:haraliu:šivai:eptešiu:arai:tiš:φuke
šivai:aviš:sialχviš:marašm:aviš:aumai


man, it must have sounded pretty damn epic
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>>33013917
BASED FINLAND

A

S

E

D

F

I

N

L

A

N

D
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>>33012269
ti kaneis sti germania? douleia, spoudes i kati allo?
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>>33013867

>the choice between living in Europoverty and living in one of the wealthiest countries on the planet

HELLAS PAOK PAOK HELLAS STRONG
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>>33013923
>dat text
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>>33013949
PAOK a shit
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>>33013673
> Greek yogurt + Greek honey is the food of the gods . .
It's more like the food of the turk
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>>33013465
>anything on geates/getae ,thracians too

Not much, really. But the thracian nobleman buried in bulgaria seems to have components that are very close to modern east and southern balkanites than the other sample which carries paleolithic genes.

http://genetiker.wordpress.com/2014/06/11/analyses-of-iron-and-bronze-age-bulgarian-genomes/

Though it can be explained by regional variability many thousands of years ago. Even today there is that inside nations after many centuries of inner migrations.
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>>33013991
Greek honey?That shit has been consumed in Greece since pre-historic times . . or am I wrong?

Mixing it with Greek yogurt out of the fridge gives it an ice-cream type desert feeling which is why Ilike it

also fuck you
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>>33013977

Tell that to every Greek in Melbourne and Sydney.
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>>33013991
Don't worry my lactose intolerant friend. I will eat a yogurt for you too :^)
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>>33013723
Those that are here can't even speak Greek.
Just ignore, especially this particular one american autist. These guys are not Greek. An Albanian immigrant in Greece is far more Greek than them.
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>>33009663
Should I keep my greek girlfriend?
I'm a Brit.
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>>33014070
if I ever come to ausfailia ill tell them
im not a pussy like you who is afraid of wogs
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>>33013941
Spoudes.
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>>33014100
Are you expecting a serious answer with the information provided? Very well, get a greek boyfriend instead.
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>>33014100
Can she cook?

If yes, keep

If no, dump

that simple
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>>33014086
I know, I know.

>>33014106
They'll actually be shocked that a Greek national says they're doing it wrong. No joke.
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>>33014086
>An Albanian immigrant in Greece is far more Greek than them.

Must suck to be Albanian huh? :)
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>mfw greeks think they use superior olive oil
>mfw their olive oil is deluded olive oil
>mfw they import their olives to make their olive oil
>mfw eating real 100% olive oil as i type this
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>>33014100
no

>>33014086
right center left?
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>>33013949
hahahahahahahaha

Π Α Ο Κ
Α
Ο
Κ
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>>33014180
>not using famous tunisian olive oil
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>>33014166
>They'll actually be shocked that a Greek national says they're doing it wrong. No joke.
what do you mean? about PAOK? do seriously most wogs support PAOK?
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>>33010506
>167 cm
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>>33014266
It's 1.78 m now m8
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>>33014234
>falling for tunisian lies
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>>33014180
But Tunisian olive oil is best
t. olive oil professional
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>>33014287
>not buying tunisian
>not wanting olive directly milked from Hannibal

stay plebistinian
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>>33014266
Get a chair and tell that to my face faggot.
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>>33014194
>right, center, left?
right, why?
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>>33014257

About everything.

Yes, a phenomenon in Australia is that Italian and Greek diaspora will support be biggest and most famous team from their grandparent's country regardless of the region their family came from.

For Italians it's Juventus.
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>>33014086
>Just ignore, especially this particular one american autist. These guys are not Greek. An Albanian immigrant in Greece is far more Greek than them.
Nice try faglord, I bet you are albanian too.
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>>33014323
>I eat tunisian olive oil
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>>33014266

Like the Southern Germans, who are now around 1,8m
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>>33014351
Hello again, friend.
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>>33014334
>juventus
You can proceed with stripping them of their rights, they deserve it.
Just don't deport them or they'll come straight back.
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>>33014334
>Yes, a phenomenon in Australia is that Italian and Greek diaspora will support be biggest and most famous team from their grandparent's country regardless of the region their family came from.
PAOK is neither the biggest nor the most famous team in Greece
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>>33014086
>Those that are here can't even speak Greek.
How?
Are they "greek-americans"? :^)
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>>33014368
which greek are you??
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>>33014398
jewish greek
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>>33014398
We were supposed to sail to the Aegean sea together... unless you are another person from Palestine.
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>>33014384
A Boko Haram members actually watches PAOK games.
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>>33009663
+never met a Hellan who wasn't bro-tier
+hates albania
+great culture
+orthodox (and not fanatics about it)
+best dairy products in Europe
-Crete sucks

Greece confirmed for based Greece
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>>33014384

In Australia it's the only Greek team anybody knows.
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>>33014440
i mistook another greek for you yesterday, he was a big jerk.

s-sorry it won't happen again
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>>33014482
How? Were they gay too? What did they say to you?
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>>33014482
palestine is rightful jewish clay
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>>33014482
Why do you want to fuck Greeks?
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>>33014333
>Those that are here can't even speak Greek.
Not easy, when your parents are the only people in your daily life who talk in Greek with you.

>These guys are not Greek.
An Albanian immigrant in Greece is far more Greek than them.

>An Albanian more Greek

>Albanian

There is an IQ gap of 10 to 15 points between us and them
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>>33014517
no he was just butthurt when i asked him if he was gay
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>>33014524
>greekboo niggers
disgusting cultural appropriation
do they also live in athens?
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>>33014551
Don't mind such guys, their masculinity is important enough to defend online.
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>>33014517
>one guy
>they
They is a deprecated term for one person, please use the much superior "he".
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>>33014334
Π.Α.Ο.Κ. is not the biggest team in Greece. It is 3rd - 4th. The biggest are Panathenaicos and Olympiacos.

It is probably because of Northern Greeks.

It goes like this:

>Olympiacos/Panathenaicos
Athenians/All of Greece

>Π.Α.Ο.Κ., Heracles, Ares
Greeks that came from Pontus(Anatolia) /Constantinople/ Northeners

Α.Ε.Κ
Greeks from Anatolia / Constantinople

The last "Κ" in Α.Ε.Κ. and Π.Α.Ο.Κ. stands for Κωνσταντινούπολις(Constantinople), cause that's where they both originate from.
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>>33014664
>cultural appropriation
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>>33014664
P A O K
A
O
K

You will submit to the hivemind.
>>
>tfw slowly learning how to speak Greek
Teach me your secrets, or alternatively a good book or list of sorts for cases, words, etc.
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>>33014525
>albozerg detected
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>>33014683
what do you study in uni?
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>>33014786
>albozerg

What´s that?
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>>33014789
C-computer science. Do you go to uni?
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>>33014525
An Albanian immigrant has lived more in Greece, knows Greek, and knows the Greek culture a Thousand times better than any deluded diaspora "Greek".

And you most probably have Arvanite(i.e. Albanian) blood.
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>>33014827
>What´s that?

See pic
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>>33014870
yeah i'm a med student
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>>33014870
What uni?
Are you just a random shithead who though "omg I maek gaayymmss" or you loved CS and/or programmed before?
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>>33014874
Only an Albanian would say that . .you have no idea what you are talking about
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>>33014926
My mother wanted me to go to a med school. But my dad wanted me to go to an engineering school like him. But I didn't particulary like any of these...
>>33014928
Please, I loved math since elementary school and solving algorithms is actually very fun for me. I couldn't care less about game designing.
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>>33009663
Another long-fallen empire. Consigned to the pile of poor useless has-beens, alongside Italy and Egypt.
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>>33014985
No I am Greek and all my ancestors for at least 5 generations where I can trace were Greeks.

You are NOT Greek, you are an American. Just deal with it and quit being deluded.
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>>33014870
>homo
>computer science
How does this always happen?
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>>33015051
you should do what you want, not what your parents tell you. I kind of envy you, I wanted to be a teacher but my parents said it wouldn't make any money

what do you want to do with computer science?
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>>33015051
In that case you may like the daily programming threads on /g/
>>>/g/Daily Programming Thread
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>>33014874

>An Albanian immigrant has lived more in Greece

Once he left for Switzerland, he will not try to come back like me

>knows Greek

There are 3 persons with whom I speak Greek every day. It´s hard to keep the knowledge, while speaking 5 languages.

>and knows the Greek culture a Thousand times better than any deluded diaspora "Greek".

Most Turks here know the German culture. Most Turks dont care about them.

>And you most probably have Arvanite(i.e. Greek) blood.

Eastern Greek blood my Albanian friend
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>>33015211
>>33015246
newfag
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>>33015267
It used to work, I swear. Moot's fault.
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>>33015192
Probably developing software for a company... I could also be a teacher in high school. Not sure yet, this is my first year. But just because I don't want to be a game designer doesn't mean I don't like games, do you play any?
>>33015211
Is the stuff being said there appropriate for a freshman? Or is it more advanced?
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>>33014876

They are low class humans for me. You feel superior when talking to Albanians. You are mentally stronger than most of them.
>>
Greek diaspora should go home
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>>33015224
You said that you are in Germany for studying. I wasn't talking about your kind, I was mainly talking about 2nd+ diaspora faghots.

About the stuff you said about the Albanians, it's bullshit, especially for those that were born and raised here.

> Eastern Greek blood my Albanian friend
Me too, but from an island. If you are from the eastern mainland, I have bad news for your deluded nationalism.
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>>33015430
>do you play any?

Just grand strategy games like EUIV and CK2 and Rune factor/Harvest moon for the 3ds. I don't have much time for vidya though

what do you do in your spare time?
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>>33015475
arent they legal ausfailian citizens?
they are your problem now
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>>33015430
>Probably developing software for a company

Beware of this sector. Here in Germany, you can easily end up in a small room with your computer and earn nearly nothing.
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>>33015475

English prisoners should go home said the Aborigines
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>>33015585
I hang out or play games... with friends. But they are straight, so might also browse 4chan from time to time.
Regarding grand strategy games... my cousin gave me Hearts of Iron 2 as a present when I was young. Really played a lot of it. Also played Hearts of Iron 3 and EU3. But I don't play a lot these days.
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>>33014266
Obviously they weren't as tall as today because their diet was not so healthy retard.
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>>33015523

I´ve never mentioned it here, although I am studying, too.

>About the stuff you said about the Albanians, it's bullshit

My uncle who lives since 2008 in Thessaloniki tells me always about Albanians. The other one, who lived 12 years in Cyprus says the same.

> I have bad news for your deluded nationalism.

Caucasian Anatolia.
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>>33015741
is being gay considered socially taboo in greece?
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>>33015850
Different subcultures have different opinions on the matter. From my experience, for a considerable portion of the youth it is.
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>>33009663
shit
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>>33015850

Something between Western and Russian mentality on that. They are accepted, but not as much as in the West. Kissing outside, holding hands, wearing faggot clothes, etc is a disgrace.
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>>33016002
>shit

Are you talking about the average Brazilian skincolour?
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>>33016002
>Monkey logic
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>>33015850
No but I would avoid kissing in places not made for young people.
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>>33015966
so no hand holding?

>>33016023
its kind of like in the liberal cities here. people won't care that you're gay but they'll talk about you behind your back, and you'll get byldos laughing at you if you hold hands

in villages though it's a whole different story they'll invoke the word of god and kick your ass. the majority of gay guys who come out as gay in villages get kicked out, and some of them move to ramallah while others try to sneak into israel and tel aviv
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>>33016162
It ... will earn you some stares. Pretty much how you described your liberal cities to be.
What about you though? Is your free time limited or you just don't play a lot vidya? What other activities occupy your free time?
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>>33016162
>he is gay
>he posts anime girls
explain
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>>33015831
Your uncles are old and they haven't interracted with the Albanians that were raised here.
Also, I bet that they haven't interracted with Albanians in general and that they 're just bigots who formed opinions on them solely by hearing some robery by albos on the news.

>Caucasian Anatolia
whch part is that?
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>>33016162

Talking behind their back is a women´s thing there.

Same with the villages, although there are not many younger people who still live in villages.
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>>33016257
it's kind of limited between work and studying, uni i only go three days a week but my grandfather asked me to help him out with his Jewelry store because he's getting old and doesn't have the energy he used to

i mainly play vidya once or twice a week when i'm free

>>33016293
can't be helped
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>>33016395
>bigots

>bigot
>/ˈbJɡət/
>noun
>a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.
Nice misuse
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>>33009663
It's all Greek to me.
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>>33016425
>Talking behind their back is a women´s thing there.

really? both guys and girls do it here, the guys actually gossip more than the girls, it's really annoying at times.

village life is comfy though, nothing but you and your farm and your neighbors, I love the community aspect of it its way better than the city where you just blend in with the crowd
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>>33016467
You are lucky that your grandfather has a jewelry store and you are not from a family of engineers. Mine insisted that my father takes me as a labourer of his. Hard work and I won't do it during my semester because it is too distracting and tiring. Well paid though.
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>>33016558
>labourer

no thanks I hate manual labour

my grandfather on my moms side used to be a mechanic he would repair everything from cars to trucks, but he sold his garage and now he mainly just sits outside on the balcony and tries to flirt with all the women passing by lel

which city do you live in?
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>>33016395

One is old and still helps the poors, regardless of their ethnicity. He just dont like your people.
The other one is young and worked with Albanians. He dislikes Albanians.
All Greeks who came to Germany tell me the same things when I talk to them. It´s just like the situation with the Turks here, if not more worse.

>whch part is that?
There is only one
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>>33016651
I don't like it either... but old people at least where I am from, have this desire for their grandchildren to work, they always say how they had worked 10 different jobs by the time they were my age and how young people nowadays are lazy etc etc. Didn't want to make my grandpa sad.
I live in Thessaloniki by the way.
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>>33016541

Women in 40s-60s, mother generation.
I dont know much about the youth there.

Village life has no future. Soon it will be a rich mans privilege to live in a village, since there are no jobs and people have to work hard for the money. I grew up in a village and now I live in a big town here, but I still prefer cities with more than 1 million people. It gets never boring there.
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>>33016731
>Didn't want to make my grandpa sad.

that's cute

>thessaloniki

I really want to go there after i finish uni for vacation. I've had friends who came back from there and tell me how much fun they had. Either there or Rhodes one of the two
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>>33016834
W-well, I don't know much about the geography of Palestine but where do you live, if you don't mind saying, and how is it there?
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>>33015438
yeah sure albo. you die. you die and go to hell
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>>33016827
that's because german night life > palestinian night life

our night clubs are filled with byldos, and rich whores who are only there because their daddys disapprove

>>33016875
I'm from bethelham, it's actually pretty quite and peaceful but we've been having some minor protests lately because of shit happening in east jerusalem. Police break it up fairly quickly though before it turns into riots or the israeli's come in and issue house arrests/curfews
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>>33016891

What do you think makes me to an Albanian?
No Albanian, no hell.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analbania
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>>33016933
W-well, you wanted a picture yesterday but it is awkward to post one like that... Maybe a childhood photo would be okay... I posted one when I was a newcomer, a couple years ago, and fell for this "white" banter, not like it changed anything because it's just that, banter, and this board won't stop doing it. M-maybe you would like to see it?
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>>33017036
hahaha said like a typical albanian

you are a scum
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>>33017075
I was joking yesterday silly, you don't have to if you don't want to. Don't push yourself

b-but if you want to then i wouldn't mind posting one of mine (baby picture that is)
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>>33017075
>>33017142
I am actually wondering how you two look like. Can you describe it?
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>>33016933

True, but I dont visit clubs here. Full with arrogant Germans and Turks.
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>>33017142
Okay! You first...
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>>33017184
>Full with arrogant Germans and Turks.
>and Turks

are you just trolling or turks are really THAT invasive in germany?
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>>33017139

I am starting to think that you are the Albanian here.
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>>33017203
n-no bully
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>>33017324
hmm why are we a rat? That should be the albanians, we should be the pidgeon.
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>>33017307
Not him, but another greek in germany. Clubs there are filled with a substratum (I'm not stupid enough to find it representative of all though) of tryhard turks that try to act all RnB and abnoxious german douches that will never manage to hold a decent day job in their lives.

The turks are especially worse because they speak a form of german slang that the germans themselves sometimes try to imitate. It's annoying as all hell. I'm an asocial weeb that lifts in a 24/7 gym during the night though so I tend not to run in to them a lot.
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>>33017331
A-adorable.
Anyways...
Don't mind my chin, it's not long... I am just leaning my head down. And the scars... I was doing a lot of sports as a kid.
And how I cropped out my sister since I didn't want to show her face but wanted to prove /int/ that the stereotypes they had were wrong... Embarrassing to remember about.
T-that's all.
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>>33017307

Dude, they are everywhere here. A kebabstore is not more than 30 minutes away from your location (no fun).
They dont let them into the clubs, because they are known to cause problems like starting fights or taking away the women from the Germans. Half of my city is an area, where we and Germans fear to go outside in late night, because of the Turks who are always groups of 4-7 people.

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/kein-einlass-in-berlin-tuerken-werden-von-tuerstehern-gezielt-abgewiesen/8416434.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2tkWBOBIj8
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>>33017496
>berlin

Malaka, ti kaneis ekei? Sto kreuzberg mono me dikano kai Gundam mpaineis mesa.
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>>33017331
Not him
It's a fine pic, are you a Muslim? Do you look girly?
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>>33017386
>>33017496
That's terrible. Are you guys ever going back to your homeland? or you will stay in Germany?
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>>33017574
Gonna work for 1-2 years for something as a resume after I'm done with studies then I'm back to greece.
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>>33017496
We have natives and Sudanese who do that exact same sort of stuff, part of the problem is that cops are reluctant to treat them the same way that they treat white men.
>>
>tfw /int/ tells me i'm not greek because i don't speak greek and american greeks tell me i'm greek


the greeks here are kinda retarded though
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>>33017465
y-you too you look like you were pretty alpha as a kid, I was kind of a nerd. But you do look greek as fukk y-you're a qtie

>>33017568
my dad is orthodox my mom is muslim, i'm kind of a mix of both if that makes sense
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>>33009663
a country and people with their best days behind them
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>>33017360

I made this last year after I read for the first time about "Skopje 2014".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ITOPfMB74I

You have books and Internet. How can this massive propaganda still affect your people?

Anyway, a pigeon is either used for stupidity or peace.
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I like Greeks merely on the basis that they are genetically similar to myself.
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>>33017654
>I can't speak greek, I've never been in Greece, I have 1/4 greek blood but 'muh heritage, I'm greek'

No m8, americans are retarded
>>
>>33017655
N-no... I wasn't an alpha kid... I was bullied because I was small and lonely. But by high school I wasn't small and lonely anymore.
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>>33017708
>implying Chile has some sort of intelligentsia monopoly over white Americans
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>>33017725
>Americans
>white
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>>33017752
Excuse me, but I am 1/4th German and therefore white, niggonopolis.
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>>33017530

berlin, skoupidi tis germanias. münchen, dikomas kreuzberg.
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>>33017723
i want to sail around the world with you
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>>33017708
i'm half, ty
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>>33017809
I...
me too.
Will I find you again here? I went into a Middle East thread today, you weren't there.
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>>33017886
I-I wasn't there today? i-i can give you my skype if you want, i dont call much i just type
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>>33017672
>How can this massive propaganda still affect your people?
because the government plays this "hurr durr we great macedonians conquered all the world" card, while they steal on a massive scale

>Anyway, a pigeon is either used for stupidity or peace.
p-peace. we never warred anyone (except albos who started shit here themselves through kosovo)
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>>33017574

I will study the next 2 years for my bachelor. After that I will leave this place. Germany was a paradise in the 2000s. No problems and the Germans even liked us very much. But everything turned bad and there are waves of immigrants flooding my city. Last week they arrested a group of gypsies for stealing copper-wire from a new building. They are everywhere and all the day in a street which I pass nearly every day. Clothes, trash and the smell of urine is everywhere there. They live like animals in tents in the middle of the forests. I could write you a book about them here...

>>33017627

>reluctant to treat them the same way that they treat white men.

Probably the same in every country of the EU. Especially when they are in their famous gang groups.
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>>33017928
N-not yet...
But don't go away!
I want to talk to you again... in what sorts threads will you be found?
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>>33017999
umm mostly animu shitposting threads

but i'll be in the /me/ threads tomorrow, I promise.
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>>33017949

People like you are rare. I only know a guy from Bitola, but he is like you. His family wanted to move to Cyprus.

>except albos who started shit here themselves through kosovo

They are a big, underrated problem. They breed too fast and then they justify their landgrabe with a population majority.
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>>33018042
I'll try to be there, It's late though. Need to get some sleep. But I will go to bed happy. Good night!
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>>33018176
>gets me excited
>goes to bed

g-goodnight have sweet dreams
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>>33018134
anyone with a brain wants to move out of here

>They are a big, underrated problem. They breed too fast and then they justify their landgrabe with a population majority.
I'm gonna cry from happiness that someone actually sees it as it is.
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>>33018211

Well then, good night/morning...
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>>33017324
my bad i just realized that the original post u made was defending greeks.
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I would never go to see the homeland just once to know my anstestors a little more.

I do love greece i miss people that look like me.

they are great people and very much feel like Greece needs more love than it gets.

I have rarely talked to another greek because the ones i know are just family or they cannot speak english.
I still celebrate greek holidays
But i think i'm too adapted to anglos.


>I'm Greek-kiwi and this is enough for me.
>even if NZ only has 2000 greek-kiwi's i am >proud to call NZ my home
>Ahem
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>>33019086
>I do love greece i miss people that look like me.

I know that feel.
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>>33012181
is Athens,TN better than Athens, GA?
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Have vacationed in Greece in Pefkohori and Marmaris and been the Athens probably 15 times. Great food, great people, pleasant atmosphere, hot chicks, smokers, good nightlife.
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>>33021068
Most youtube comments are retarded so that was expected.
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Tzatziki is pretty awesome, ouzo is alright.

That's really all I can say.
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