Alternative Art/Stylization General

>>3092790
her thumb doesnt look like a thumb at all.
Looks like she has an index fingger instead of a thumb.

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How come one artist be so lazy, yet so exquisitely sensible of colors and image patterns. Warhol might be a total hack, but you can't deny that he was very talented and influential. Also, I like how he didn't betray his philosophy of creating mass produced art for the mass produced, fast food society.

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>>3092964
And Warhol influence is one of the best things to ever happen to visual arts.

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posted at end of last thread

>>3093068
You shouldn't have drawn that.

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>>3092968
Failed to notice that previous was autosaging so I want my artsyle to ressemble Kentaro Miura's or Tatsuki Fujimoto (pic related) for the faces. I'm week 1 and following book guides and am enjoying the exercises but I don't want my style to be too western. wat do?

>>3093068
degenerate

>>3093093
And of course I quote the wrong post now.
>>3092936

>>3093096
also, water wet, more at 11

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Will probably mess with legs some more

>>3093110
Who shit on your coffee lol

>>3093068
why do you never learn
pick up some loomis before you kill everyone's eyes with your degeneracy

>>3093112
/beg/ worthy tb'h fa'm.

>>3093140
no one, i didn't mean that to come off cunty, trust me, i know how deep the degeneracy hole goes for me and have nothing but good humor about it

>>3093068
>posted at end of last thread
And was ignored for a reason. Stop posting any time.

>>3093146
Sorry, this was a 30 minutes sketch or something, it'll hopefully look better later
Anything in particular?

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Could I get some feedback on this?

>>3093170
>Sorry, this was a 30 minutes sketch or something

Should of taken at the most 10 minutes tops famalam, back to beg thread for you.

>>3093170
There's nothing really wrong, but it just lacks details such as cloth folds, hair flow, facial shapes, anatomy features, and whatnot.

>>3093168
no

>>3093068
there is a porn thread where you will get better feedback for this kind of thing, use the catalog

>>3093194
>getting any feedback from there
u wot

>>3093173
i would move the mouth up just a tad, it seems low in a distracting way, other than that and the fingers, it's a nice chibi

>>3093225
I see what you mean. I placed the nose first and I did move it around a little. Each time I wanted to move it up I naturally started also moving to the left for no reason, which would change the orientation of the face.

>>3093547
Please use a trip so I can filter you.

>>3093233
>>""""""""""""""""""""""""nose""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>>3093563
not them, but there is a dot above the mouth, which is generally a nose for chibi stuff

>>3093561
no fuck off, trips are for fagmosexuals

>>3093567
I know I was just making fun of le modern anime nose.

>>3093572
But that's exactly why you need one?

>>3093068
>>3093547
Godamnit your pictures are so distressing. All of your heads lack cranium as if their mothers had the zika virus and additionally huge mouths.
God your pics are gay, good job on that aspect though.

>>3093576
ooooh, my bad

>>3093579
people keep saying that the heads are too small, i keep making the heads bigger, and nothing changes, its gotten to where i feel like if i posted >>3093173
that people would still say the head was too small and there was no forehead

>>3093587
then don't keep making the faces bigger too. Don't keep the head to face ratio as it is. Enlarge the cranium but not the mouth and the eyes and the nose, because your mouths are large enough as is.

>>3093068
Do you use references for your drawings? I think you could benefit from them a lot. I see others shitting on you and your art (for a good reason). But like one other anon said it's great that keep doing what you like without caring about that shit.

Try to improve for the sake of everyone seeing your drawings

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>>3093547
>>3093587
learn to anime nigger

>>3093627
trash

>>3093068
>>3093547
The huge mouths bother me infinitely more than the subject matter does somehow

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>>3093627

>>3093642
mouths are expressive, so i tend to try and give them emphasis, that's why i haven't changed them all that much

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>>3093225
Fixed

>>3093765
looks better

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what you faggots think? tell me how much I suck

>>3093773
i'm going to start by saying i like it, but, if you're looking for a critique, the lines are chunky everywhere but the face, the legs bleed into each other, and the pony tail could be improved

>>3093777
thanks! i meant to do the lines like that. The legs do need improvement, and the pony tail does need to be fixed

>>3093773
The forehead is much too small

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guessing centaurs probably naruto run

>>3093112
Blog?

>>3093831
HORSE
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PUSSY
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>>3093977
she's actually got a massive cock, i just haven't posted any of those drawings anywhere

there needs to be /alt-beg/ for all these shitters

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>>3093985

hey sorry to ask, but why even post this? What benefit does this give anyone in any way outside of proclaiming to the board that you have some kind of superiority complex to people you will never meet or talk to. Do you really just feel like bringing down the entire thread because you have an opinion on the work posted here?

No one is shilling their art, no one is pandering, people who post here simply enjoy making art and want to get better. If you have nothing constructive to say, then you are no better than the "shitters" coming and posting what this board is made for. Artwork and Artists who want to see and share it.

>>3093985
fund it.

>>3093994

The whole flow of everything feels alive, but the first thing I notice is that the face looks small and the arm is too short. Try to picture how her arm would be if she held it to her side for a better vantage on the size of things.

>>3093991
>What benefit does this give
saves the rest of us from having to look at DA tier weeb trash

>>3094010

If you're only looking for art by people who know what they're doing you're on the wrong board, anon.

>>3093991
/ic/ has to maintain a certain schoolyard bully attitude, it's just part of the image. most people are just messing around because they're anon, you just have to develop like a mental filter.

there are a few people just on here like 16 hours a day shitposting all day, but it's 4chan so you don't need to deal with them and they get filtered like everything else.

>>3093985
post work

>>3094014
>tfw you realize this whole board was never meant for pros and is actually for beginners and intermediates

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revolver ocelot

>>3093068
stop posting crap, don't post it in public.

>>3094043

I feel like this piece would be 100x better if you didn't rely on the typical anime eyes on the face. Everything else is really well done, but the eyes really stand out in a bad way imo. Try developing something more similar to the style you have for everything else on here.

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>>3092936
I made a character design based on the icon/mascot of a page

Thoughts?

Imy going to use it as a reference for a few porn pics and comic panels

>>3093999
Thanks for the feedback I will work on your remarks.

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what's wrong with this?

>>3094125
looks great to me, 90% of /ic/ aren't worthy to critique this

>>3094125
Waist too slim
Face looKs chubby
The legs I feel should be a little more separated to show there is space for the vagoo, just a Lil

Nothing too terrible to scratch it from 0. You could even fix it with the gimp warp tool

>>3093627
doesnt even look like anime, retard

>>3094145
Post your work.

>>3094125
Stop drawing anime and porn.

>>3094151
Stop drawing

>>3094176
HE

>>3094179
HAS

>>3094181
NO

>>3094186
NIPPLES

>>3094176
ok good at least u signed it.

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>>3094191
I was happy with it. so I signed it.

>>3093097
>>3093093
pls respond
Do I just stick to Loomis for now?

>>3094318
ye

>>3094322
Alright famalam I'll be back when it will matter

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what do you guys think? A sketch of a friend

>>3094024
>has to
wrong

>>3094344
You posted that weeks ago. Draw something new.

>>3094344
>A sketch of a friend
>that filename
hurr durr

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rough sketch, but I wanted to try something new

>>3093652
You can keep expressiveness without making them huge. The way they look currently is very unnerving.

You're pretty skilled apart from your faces, I really hope you continue to strive for improvement; i'd like to see what your art looks like without relying on the anime face crutch you currently use.

>>3093112
>tfw can't even draw shit like this
I'm starting to believe that it's a natural talent desu. Hell, I've found Japanese and Computer Science to be way simpler than this art stuff. [spoiler]Pretty frustrating desu[/spoiler].

>>3094553
That's probably all they can draw. If you were to ask them to draw the hulk they couldn't do it even if it meant saving their mothers life.

>>3094570
Well, it is better than being able to draw nothing well at all.

>>3094157
blog?

>>3094128
I doubt that, but thanks
>>3094140
Thansk.
>>3094151
Why?

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Eh. Thoughts?

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Can l get some advice on this? The eyes and the shoulders are bothering me but l'm not sure how to fix them. And l'd appreciate if you could point out any other glaring issue that l might have not noticed.

>>3094803
hey this looks good
>The eyes and the shoulders are bothering me
I don't see anything wrong there

>>3094803
Don't see anything wrong, eye style reminds me of Panty and Stocking

>>3094125
Follow the curve of the rivcage from the armpit down to the bottom of the breast and you will realize your mistake. Also, you could improve your texturing skills.

>>3094491
>he literally cannot into bodies
try hampton, jesus

>>3094813
>>3094814
If you don't have anything useful to say stop posting.

>>3094803
Read the sticky.

>>3094819
You're not saying anything useful, either.

>>3094821
>Implying the sticky isn't useful
This place has really gone to shit.

>>3094822
Stop posting anytime

>>3094822
I'm not saying the sticky isn't useful, I'm saying anons advice is vague as fuck

>>3094803
That hair across the body makes the anatomy really hard to read, like the other clavicle isn't there. The visible one doesn't look like it's in the right place either.
Other than that the hair is flat and the eyes and ear are in the wrong perspective.
>>3094822
>Implying sticky is useful
post work

>>3094824
You actually expect us to spoonfeed your ass? If you want someone to do that why don't you fuck off to a community college or someshit? The sticky has more than enough resources and information all you need is just a little bit of an attention span; I know it's hard to think for yourself but just try and put two and two together you can do it I believe in you champ.

>>3094831
Thank you for the critique!
>the eyes and ear are in the wrong perspective
Holy shit, yeah, thanks for pointing that out.

I can always count on the alt thread to be the most entertaining. Keep it up faggots.

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rate my first effort in digital drawing, just bought this wacom for 60 euro's, still trying to figure everything out

>>3094491
is she going to catch her eye or is she just going to let it float away?

>>3094940
2/10

>>3094940
nice tits goku

>>3094803
looks great, better than 90% of the trash posted here

>>3094491
It is rather refreshing seeing SOMETHING different from you, that I can say. However it's REALLY clear how much you forcus on heads that it comes off sad how much your lack of knowledge in that department. You should just work on body fundamentals the same amount you did with heads.

>>3095025
I also like to CAPITALIZE certain words for EMPHASIS, even though it makes me look like a giant FAGGOT.

>>3095068
shut your mouth. We don't need anymore dickheads on this thread.

>>3095088
it's dickheads all the way down

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Some of my stuff from the last few days, reposting some from the last thread because I've been lazy...

>>3095104
BLOG PLEASE

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>>3094940
rev. lines need to be less chicken scratch

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Any advice on foreshortening and feet is especially appreciated, as is any other critique

>>3095127
I'm still having difficulty drawing straight lines desu

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Anyone who knows how to draw feet, anything i should fix with this one?
Any way to make it look better? thanks

>>3095156
practice aside, make sure you are comfortable with your tablet.
For my intuos, i decreased the active area a tiny bit, and increased the sensitivity

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>>3095104
cute, but also

>>3095165
where did you get that?

>>3095159
Thanks for the tip, i'll have to adjust to the new settings now

>>3095175
funny post going round furry twitter

>>3093173
Body looks flat as fuck, especially torso

>>3094491
dude im pretty sure you just used another guys work. at least tell us when youre using reference
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/DydJO

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>>3095219
There's one thing that never ceases to amaze me and that is the level of autism /ic/ posses to find referenced material, good show.

>>3095068
Glad you get TRIGGERED by words, anon.

>>3094792
If you do that pose, the clothing would probably ride up. You would start seeing private parts.

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I don't know shit about guns or perspective. Can someone pls help me out with the gun?

>>3095324
Only thing you need is to
1-read a perspective book
2-references

We can fix your bent gun but you should learn how to perspective and references

Also the base and barrel or wsthever the 2 endd are called, seems to bend

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Planning on finishing them when I'm done with commissions. Critique me, please.

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Tryna draw a girl at different ages

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what do you think about this style of coloring?

also does anyone have some good advice for painting lips, I'm having trouble on a different thing.

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I wish I had more endurance. This and some gesture drawings was all I could do tonight.

are there any theory books that cover how do anime art or is it just something you improvise?

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>>3094151
Actually... I am gonna stop.

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Colored those bg characters I posted earlier

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>>3095553
>>3095104
sorry I'm posting so much

>>3095551
cute blog?

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Still very rough, got a lot of blending and rendering to do but ey.
>>3095447
Right shoulder is too close to the torso, I barely noticed it. The bra looks a bit flat,like it doesn't wrap around the boob. Right thigh should be a bit more visible I think.

>>3095709
Your work looks familiar, do you got a blog?

>>3092964
>Warhol might be a total hack, but he's actually not a total hack

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>>3095324
my take, including 5head.

>>3095599
Dont be sorry, you are the sole of this thread.
One of the few that dont use anime style, and one of the only ones that produces quality content. Your pictures have great aesthetics and are so much fun to look at. Post as many as you want.

>>3095467
Looks really cool. Whats going on?

>>3095830
Is it hard to live your life with that guy's dick shoved down your throat every second of the day. Must be tough to eat and stuff right?

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>>3095835
Man what a hilarious comment
>what is admiration
You sad worm is this what you spend your life on?

>>3095830
Welp, I meant soul of this thread and not the sole.

>>3095104
Nice style and colors

>>3095576
The forehead's somewhat better, but the eyes and mouth still look messed

>>3096080
Don't respond to that thing.

>>3096101
I just want him to improve :'(

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>>3093627

>>3096131
wrong

>>3096132
you try then, faggot.

>>3096139
he just pointed out that it's wrong, and that's true

>>3096143
yeah but at least he could do a critique...you know, on the art critique board. we'd all learn a lot more if he did that.

>>3096143
wrong

>>3095834
I'm just training hands, but not really, so i'm trying "studying" while trying to come up with some artwork.
In the end you have this kind of abstract stuff without any real meaning.

>>3095447
The kind of creature is this?

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>>3096131

>>3096163
good on ya mate. we need more drawing, less talking

>>3096163
It's still wrong you know

>>3096163
Too western

>>3096195
just show us how it's done then, nigger. how about you show us your knowledge with pictures, talk is cheap

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>>3096131
>>3096163
>terribad dunning-kruger /beg/gars trying to redline shit
>fag wasting half an hour redlining a joke and a /beg/gar (still fails)
>both completely miss the point of the original redline
any excuse to furiously ego wank

>>3096211
Oh look, another d/ic/k who doesn't draw.

>>3096218
You're one of them you fucking retard.

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>>3096163

>>3096222
that's abhorrent.

>>3096219
Nope, this is just the hour or two I spend on 4chan. You need to check your ego, fuccboi. You like to rip into others while you think you know everything, you're the one ego wanking here.

>>3096226
>uses the term "fuccboi"
>still being a hypocrite
>no u
get drawing or post work

>>3096222
>/ic/ cannot into moe proportions

>>3096211
>he doesnt enjoy a good redline chain

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>>3096222
Step aside amateurs. I have honed this style from my many hours of watching anime and staring at my figurines

>>3096238
blog?

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>>3096238
No idea why this guy was removed.

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>>3096232
you are right

I bet 2ch is laughing at you fags right now

>>3095823
Thanks. Looks nicer.
>>3095324
Sad part is that I already tried with both those.

>>3095525
I think that looks very nice actually. Do you have a blog or anything?

>itt : blog memes

>>3096307
Can I ask why fags do this? It isn't funny, we already had that shitty excuse of a "muh style" thread and all this beginner shit isn't making /ic/ veterans like anime any better.

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>>3096327
>/ic/ veterans

>>3096327
>ic
>veterans
Don't kid yourself, there's no veterans here. Professionals stop by maybe once a month when they ain't working on something and that's about it. Otherwise it's just hobbyists trying to do their best.

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>>3096327
>/ic/ """"""""""veterans""""""""""
>giving a fuck what some nobody on an anime imageboard thinks of your anime

>>3096338
>hobbyists
And how long does these hobbyists use /ic/ to "improve"? I never said professionals, I said long time /ic/ users. The ones that at least aims to get better some day instead of shitposting with maymay images, like >>3096337 >>3096341

>>3096351
Bout three months.

>>3096354
Shockingly accurate. Once they realize they can just learn on their own they jump ship real quick and only occasionally post here.

>>3096351
I don't see /ic/ as being an active source of improvement. Maybe motivation, as in having your art called trash every day. It's not like serious critique is mandatory and enforced. I come around here to find new artists, have a good chuckle every now and then and download inspiration and artbooks.

>>3096277
Thank you! I do have a DA:
fludd108.deviantart.com
It's mostly filled with sketches and studies.

>>3094157
Gorgeous. You could try using a few different shades of pink, darker and lighter, for the sky, but it's lovely how it is.

>>3094043
kawaii ocelot more like

>>3096402
ocelot is cute! cute!

>>3095709
Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, I'm definitely going to finish this later.

Also, love your piece. I'd try to saturate the colours a little more. The piece looks a little muddy and you could try to make it more dynamic with harshed shadows and such. Can't wait to see the final piece.

>>3096156
manticore. It's from the tower girl thread, but I really liked how it turned out, so I'm going to try to finish it.

>>3093173
Kono dio burando da

>>3096482
How does this comment contribute to the thread?
Do you think you're funny?
Do you think you're clever?
Post your work so I can see how shitty you are.

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>>3094743

>>3096440
jesus, amazing detail, but be careful to separate your values when you paint this

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If the mods actually did their fucking job we wouldn't get the shitflinging mocking attitude of /ic/

>>3096547
Do you know how many things fall under rude and offensive?

>>3096547
>rude or offensive comments will result in a ban
>singling out individual artists for the purposed of trolling them will not be tolerated
KEK, those two things happen basically constantly
there really are no mods here, fuck me

>>3096552
The rules aren't enforced by robots, you autist. The mods are humans just like anyone else and we all know when someone's being a dick. It's like porn- you know it when you see it. Also, you didn't address the second point about singling out artists. Do you know how many damn threads are made about what's Shadman been up to, Sakimichan being a hack, "is X artist shit or good", etc? Not mention once a poor sap decides to go to /is/ and he posts enough of his beginner drawings he'll basically be singled out and humiliated with until he leaves or quits drawing. I've seen this shit for the past 2 years it's disgusting.

>>3096573
So what? You want the board to be a slower, dead, boring hugbox?

>>3096547
>Your rights end where my feelings begin

So basically what you're saying is if we hurt your fee-fee's it'll be an instant ban and don't you dare talk about other people.

>>3096552
Well thanks to Tumblrites today.

Back when these rules were made I'm guessing "SJW" wasn't as bad as it was as it is now. That Gamergate thing years back has shown a bigger, more sensitive userbase of 4chan ever since 2012.

>>3096587
because a human being is not able to tell the difference between harsh critic and straight out insults.
Fucking faggot

>>3096597
and that is precisely why nobody gives a fuck about you, you are not a special snowflake

>>3096576
You don't seem to understand what constructive criticism is, you seem to think harsh criticism=constructive. Why don't you just be honest and just tell them what the need to fix without all of the vicious attitude or snarky remarks? And even when you guys do try to "critique" it's not even correct most of the time and is as helpful as wiki how. Just look at the "red lines" that were just posted, NOBODY has the right to act smug and talk shit when they're in the same boat as the rest of us. You'd be right if the board ACTUALLY had good specific advice consistently, but 99 percent of all the advice is pure garbage that misguides most of the decent artists here with bullshit wisdom.

>>3096592
>so 4chan is the place of sjw now?
>how hard is: choosing mods that are not sjw?

>>3096576
>You want the board to be a slower, dead, boring hugbox?
Implying it isn't already, only difference is add in shitposting in front of hugbox and there you go.

>>3096587
Yeah, because none of that relates to being on topic with Artwork/Critique.

>>3096576
If this place wasnt full of shitposters it might actually be a real contender to other art communities, but its not and thats why its slow af.

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>>3096605
what an argument

>>3096609
>Yeah, because none of that relates to being on topic with Artwork/Critique.
>read the sticky
BAAAAAAW I spent years drawing I deserve praise and recognition!
>draw from life or kindly fuck off back to DA
BAAAAAAAW what about my feelings I spent hours drawing this turd!

>>3096615
>>3096597

>>3096617
>>3096615

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>>3096587
>>3096605
>>3096615
>using strawman argument
lol do u you even know what art critique is nigga? you don't gotta suck an anon's dick but you can't talk shit without giving them proper advice, not this vauge bullshit

>>3096612
Being full of shitposters is what ensures /ic/ remains the best art community around. A filter for the riff-raff if you will.
>>3096597
>>3096614
How come you get to decide what a human being is or isn't? What an argument, fucking faggot.

>>3096587
>don't you dare talk about other people
>people
>shadman
>artist
idiot, artists are not people they're autists that draw pictures

>>3096618
Using an argument that >>3096597 counters to counter exactly the one that its being refuted by.
We aren't that smart are we?

>>3096621
With the amount of insecurity and tumblr infestation we have, unless you sugar coat a critique and you make sure you give some form of asspat followed by a positive remark to not hurt their fragile esteem you're going to have faggots like >>3096547

>>3096628
You're completely missing the point, unless you sugarcoat every single tid bit you're always going to have a bitch fit and god forbid you forget to upboat otherwise you'll have a screeching banshee behind that monitor demanding a ban

>>3096629
And the mods that should enforce the rules will gladly ignore harsh and unforgiving critique while banning posts that arent critique but ones that are just plain insults and dont help anybody. Whats so bad about this?

>>3096634
So? They have the right to demand a ban if its against the rules. Harsh critique isnt, let them scream, these people will leave if they cant take harsh critiques but even good artists and ones that do take harsh critiques well will leave if there are only shitposters going around insulting people.
The mods are here to ban insults and shitposters. IF they actually would do their job or if any were present

>>3096634
The day we have a like system is the day 4chan dies. I left from shitholes like that, and 4chan is the only place that doesn't abide to that shit hugboxing cancer.

Make tripfagging mandatory and add a like system, I'll never come back here ever again.

>>3096639
If you cannot take a critique and call it an insult to your cancerous naruto fan art there's a plethora of other sites that are designed and cater to your needs for attention and praise, just because someone didn't ask for your blog doesn't mean they're being insulting.

>>3096639
If they start banning insults I feel like that would just make people afraid to post harsh criticism.

>>3096640
So saying, your drawing is a turd and you should stop drawing you faggot. Is constructive criticism? There is a difference between a hugbox and a community that insults instead of giving constructive critique.

>>3096629
>again with the extremes
what is with you dude? anon isn't saying we should sugarcoat shit. anon's just tellin us that we should tell the truth and try to actually give them advice not just say "it's shit". i would let it slide if the "harsh critique" actually had critique in there but all of the harsh critique you're talkin about is just shit talking dude.

>>3096645
If we give you an inch you'll take a fucking mile; we aint giving you SJW's a fucking inch

>>3096644
>>3096645
I don't think you guys understand the hill you're trying to slide down.

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>>3096642
WHY DO YOU KEEP REFERRING TO INSULTS AS CRITIQUE? Nobody here is talking about censoring critique but censoring plain insults. You keep saying that it would turn ic into a hugbox but where is anybody saying you cant post harsh critique if it is actually constructive?

>>3096647
>we aint giving you SJW's a fucking inch
4chan is now full of sjw then?

>>3096649
Its not a hill if the rules are laid out clear and the right mods are monitoring the threads, if you just accept anyone as a mod then yeah, no shit it wont work then.

>>3096647
>>3096649
i ain't no SJW bitch. i hate all races, but that's besides the point. mods actually doing their job would make this place better, they know better than to be cucked by an SJW like moot

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hi guys
this is a no rudeposter zone

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>>3096530
Thanks!

If they want to post their image they post others.
Because so unsightly here now.

>>3096658
Your drawing is ugly you fucking faggot never draw again assface. Hope this critique helps.

>>3096650
Because your special snowflake mentality will perceive anything remotely against your art as an insult, over half of you are not even here for a critique take a good look at the tumblr blogging thread most of them never post outside of that thread instead they're there only for exposure it is a cancerous micro community within /ic/ that reflects your average facebook wall this is the cancer that is slowly ravaging /ic/ and now you demand for people to start catering towards your feelings because you feel that a critique was insulting?

You faggots are only here for attention and when something doesn't go your way you have this temper tantrum and attempt to intertwine the rules in your favor.

Hypothetically if the mods do ban/delete every single non constructive insult does that mean that only helpful critiques will be posted all the time? Will that magically change the post quality of the entire board?

>>3096661
Stop projecting pussy.

>>3096658
learn some values and color theory, bro. it also appears you are afraid of the anatomy. check out boy Kienan Lafferty he'll show you the way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWRF9GpRCNI

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Reminder to not respond to shitposts.

goyukkuri

>>3096664
Are insults constructive? Will this board be worse off without non constructive insults?

>>3096671
How come he gets to have a tripcode and a name and Firez doesn't? I find this insulting because I admire Firez and he deserves to have a name so everyone could recognize that he is the one posting MODS GET IN HERE

>>3096671
fuck I forgot, horrible straw men get me though. Thanks for the reminder.

>>3096660
See
>>3096669
I think you need to reevaluate your attitude and draw more buddy

>>3096664
I mean, isn't that the reason good artists leave this shithole? If they would stay because they do get the critique of the work they need instead of shitposting "you're shit" all damn day, I think it's obvious.

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Serious artists don't give good advice. Why would you build competition for yourself? Art's competitive enough.
Secure artists give all the advice they can. This reinforces their own security to them. Thing is, it only takes a little bit of mental gymnastics to become secure with your own art (i-it's muh style).
It's rare that a serious artist is secure with their own art, but when they are they're willing to provide materials and advice for other artists. For example, the proverbial loomis books.

The only critique you're going to get from a serious artist is which parts of your work are shit and exactly how shit they are. Anything more and they're digging a hole for themselves, which means they're secure with their own art, which means they cannot be trusted.
Actual secure serious artists have plenty of materials for you to go over. If you're a serious artist yourself then you'll use those materials to fix what you were told was shit.

Now, if you're an insecure artist, you'll bitch and whine until you find the one faggot willing to tell you you're special and drown out everyone who doesn't. You'll listen to the secure art faggots, become one yourself, and perpetuate artistic diseases like tumblr noses.
If you're an insecure artist, you don't deserve to get good. So the next time someone constructively tells you to fuck off, go ahead and listen to them.

>>3096678
But both Firez and Chicocalte aren't that good. They're not /beg/ they're not that good

>>3096689
sent ;)

>alt thread has the most sensitive insecure tumblrite faggots
as expected, half of you belong in beg

>>3096661
I specifically say that harsh critique should stay and you tell me that you know me good enough that I actually want everyone that doesn't sugarcoat their post to be banned? Man, you are really fucking paranoid. Keep making up these people in your head that fit your agenda asswipe.

>>3096687
negative attitude, ngmi

>>3096695
we should make an alt alt thread but without tumblr

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>>3096686
pretty much, but man those SJW want to have every post sugarcoated thats why they want to ban straight out insulting posts.. I also wear a tinfoil head.

>>3096687
So everyone should just stop drawing is what you are saying?

>>3096707
how the fuck did you manage to derive that? ngmi.

>>3096698
these threads should be deleted. just shitters and snowflakes here hiding behind "muh style"

>>3096307
i know but i really wanted the blog for

>>3095551

now my request was meme'd away.

>>3096687
>Serious artists don't give good advice. Why would you build competition for yourself? Art's competitive enough.
Doesn't that make them insecure too then? Are they really threatened by Shitty /ic/ Poster #50,000? I think the most respectable artists are those who share their wealth of knowledge. They see art as an artform, not as a job, and they have the capacity to spread their influence not only through their work, but hands-on through their critiques.
>If you're an insecure artist, you don't deserve to get good. So the next time someone constructively tells you to fuck off, go ahead and listen to them.
I agree. "Give up" is the best advice you can give someone who wants to get "serious" about anything. Because if they are willing to get serious about it, they'll respond with "fuck you" and do it anyway. I've heard a lot of comedians say this -- when someone asks them if they should get into comedy, they'll reply with "no". If you're so easily swayed by one person (especially if it's an Anon) you obviously don't have passion for the job. Again, I don't think this is about "reducing competition", but rather saving people time and heartache when they realize halfway through their failing career that they suck. It also reduces the amount of "how's this painting look? my teacher says I'm great, I'm not a beginner, I deserve my own thread etc." and allows the real artists to actually have time for discussion. I mean, ideally. It'll never happen on a public, Anonymous image board. That's not what this place is for though.

>>3096718
No, these threads have always been this way since the start it's probably the same oversensitive faggot we've had this argument before and I thought I made it clear to him that he is not a fucking special snowflake.

>>3096719
>ironically pretending to be unironic about asking for the blog

well meme'd friend :^)

>>3096725
im really not pretending though lol. i do want the blog. and now i will never know !

>>3096723
Don't know what you're on about. Take your beef with some rando on the internet elsewhere.

>>3096497
The colors look nice but her face is very unappealing

>>3096506
Features look nice, hair is too big, everything else look so blurry, you're not blocking the forms in a correct way

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fiddling around with colors again

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my shit...

>>3096887
>more raven lewds
my nigga you got good taste but i'd reccommend looking at how the hip works. one side of the hip is way lower than the other

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>>3096894
It a rough sketch, dude. I will upload the final ver. later.

meanwhile another rough-sketch

>>3096903
good shit bro, good shit. normally I'd say to hit do some art workouts like practicing tracing grids with your shoulder to increase your smoothness and straight line quality. however you could make this your style pretty easily if you just got rid of the sketch lines and started adding good colors. moebius the comic artist seems like a good senpai for you to study

>>3096887
>>3096903
what dat blog, playa?

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>>3092936
some practice doodles

>>3096903

>It a rough sketch, dude.

literally the worst answer you can give to critique. Just don't post rough sketches if you're gonna be like "lol its just a sketch man" when someone critiques it.

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>>3096887
grabbed a screencap from this video which might be able to help you out some in future attempts to draw someone walking: https://vimeo.com/108673820

dropping line perpendicular to source of gravity from middle of clavicle gives rough position of balance in a relatively static pose

note how in the frame from video the clavicle is directly above the foot giving a very balanced feel while yours is just off the side of the foot, which combined with the head/neck being off center causes raven to feel off balance, like she might fall over

other things to keep in mind, check how the hips/shoulders square up. the angle of the lines oppose, which you did in your image sorta kinda, but in the wrong direction for the point she's at in what is helpful to think of as a walk cycle

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>>3097016
actually now that i think about it, mirror flipping the top half of your sketch almost fixes it

>>3097016
Even animated the tits and dick waggling around. Moar videos from animationbro plz
>>3097024
Her feet don't feel like they're flat on the ground

>>3097085
if you click their lil icon name below the left part of the video takes you to a page with all their videos

personal fav being this one cause it's got one of my favorite songs
https://vimeo.com/52069544

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Thoughts on my chibi headshot?

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>>3097092
This is why I still come back here occasionally. For god tier resources like this guy. I'm glad I checked 4chan today because of you, thank you anon. You are the hero we need but not the one we deserve.

>>3097100
stay in beg

>>3094803
For the eyes, my suggestion is try moving the nose and the right eye to the right. And align the left eye near the nose line. Just a little bit though nothing major.

As for the shoulders they need more definition but it's nothing drastic. Try not to go over board.

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>>3096678

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>>3095709
update
>>3096817
Colorwise, ease up on the highlights, especially the whites, they look way too harsh. Also try using more blues and greens for the skin blend if you're going for the soft look.
>>3097024
Legs are generally too thick and the right leg is too short but otherwise c u t e

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>>3097419
pull those eyes back in please

>>3096497
Looks good, but something about her face is a bit off like the other anon said, I think it might be the eyes being too big

>>3097339
Where can I see some of Chicocalte's work? I wanna judge the fuck out of him.On a side note, I'm surprised you even came back here. You were basically the Nosebro of last year but you've improved a lot, Firez. Are you still using the Alphonso dunn mannequin to draw the figure or are you using something different?

>>3097419
i want to fuck her in the mouth while she looks at me with those eyes.

>>3097330
Thank you for your advice, anon. I'll work on that.

>>3097469
Thanks anon. I actually have never used that mannequin but I do use croquis café YT channel a lot. Anatomy for sculptors is another resource that has served me well too

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>>3097339
firez! ;__;

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new thread >>3097707

>>3096624
>Being full of shitposters is what ensures /ic/ remains the best art community around. A filter for the riff-raff if you will.
That makes no fucking sense. Being full of jealous shitposters has the exact opposite effects. All you faggots do is chase off any person that wants to learn and anyone with any kind talent. Case in point bbc-chan, kyle, and a couple of others.

You troglodytes ramble on and on about /ic/ not being a hugbox, but if anyone or anything comes along that could potentially improve this place, it gets chased off. Just admit that you want to stew in your own shit and piss, dragging anyone that you can catch along with you.