Alternative Art/Stylization General

!!!CANCER THREAD ACTIVATED!!!

>>2988111
strange way to spell "containment"

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What can i do to improve this?

>>2988207
burn it
or use a ref and redo the whole thing

>>2988210
Guess Ill just burn it then

>>2988207
its alright but yeah you need a ref, some parts just look whack

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Using pictures of real life people as references for pictures is alright, right? As long as I'm not tracing?

>>2988244
you should be in /beg/ if you even need to ask

>>2988243
Which parts are the ones that look whack?

>>2988252
forehead, shoulder, pelvis, ankles, tehere's a lot actually, go use a ref

>>2988244
Using reference is fine, you're teaching your brain how to construct something and overtime you can use that knowledge without references. With tracing you don't learn anything.

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Should i finish it? I dont really want to

>>2988262
Don't finish it your perspective is fucked beyond saving. You need to post with construction if you want a proper critique.

>>2988244
No, you're not allowed to use any reference whatsoever due to some arbitrary rule that some fucktard thought up, even though every single professional uses reference for their work. That's cheating, you know.

>>2988264
Theres no construction to post. I guess thats the issue, kill me now

>>2988262
>>2988271
>stylized
>no construction

>>2988277
Theres no hope for me is there

>>2988271
Don't give up like that. Not everything needs a construction. Sometimes I like to do the boxes on one page, and then use that in tandem with references to draw a clean sheet without construction.

Means I can bend the rules in some places, and the final products look less mechanical.

Keep it, come back to it later on. The errors will be obvious. For now, try some easier angles

>>2988257
>>2988265
I try to find references for materials or anatomy from a different angle than I'm drawing. The danger with references is becoming dependent on copying them. Read:Proko... Your inagination has to do work if your material reference isn't in the same perspective.

>>2988284
>imagination

>>2988271
You're >>2987797 aren't you?

>>2988284
I wont give up! Thank you anon

>>2988287
Nah i cant make smooth lines like that anon

>>2988284
this is the worst advice ive seen on /ic/ that wasnt blatant shitposting

construction does not lead to it looking "mechanical", it only looks like that if your gesture is bad or you make it look stiff.

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Reinked some parts.

>>2988315
Those wrinkly-old-man hands aren't even on the handlebars.

>>2988320

They're supposed to be gloved but yeah. I need to mask out part of the hands for when I do the bike itself.

>>2988315
>eyes working like that
shaking my head to be honest with you senpai

>>2988328
Fuck.

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Took a break from drawing uguu's to draw a male.

>>2988328
Nah, they're fine.

>>2988315
You need to stop working on this

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>>2988484

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Currently trying to work on getting connection with the calf and knee looking right at the twisted angle. i might end up having to change the orientation of the feet

>>2988489
Give me a good reason why.

>>2988533
Because you're polishing a turd.
The time you spend on that one drawing that you've been staring at for hours on end could be used practicing and improving enough to the point where you're comfortable redoing it entirely and properly.
You dont have the skill to execute what you're visualizing, it's good to be ambitious but dont neglect the basics.

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Did this for an anon on /trash/, what do you friends think?

>>2988544
How are you so good

>>2988539
Would it be better if I just pause working on it for now and come back to it later? At this point I might as well finish it, if only eventually.

>>2988547
Is this sarcasm?

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Don't take tumblrite style, kids.

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>>2988560
THEY A L L BLOCKED ME.

>>2988564
>>2988560
take your vendetta's somewhere else

>>2988560
>>2988564
Why did you try to block your image and name when it's still visible?

Seriously, somebody explain the purpose of a Style/Alt thread to me. There are no rules against styles in the other draw thread and if something looks good then it doesn't matter if it is using a distinct style.

Are you just hiding behind "style" as a way to avoid negative critique?

>>2988560
kek fking tumblerinos

>>2988104
I approve of this OP image

>>2988569
Lurk more.

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>>2988569
i think it comes down having a thread where one can expect it to be filled mostly with a illustrations that dont have to be critiqued on how close to reality it is. Sure the emphasis is on simply the aesthetic appeal, but i do agree younger peeps do tend to lean on forming a "style" rather than learning the proper stuff because they want to feel like an individual and not a knockoff. I can see where it comes from, and its something you eventually get over, but yea.

>>2988585
Source on image?

>>2988585
>all that anatomy yet the head is so fucked up

>>2988612
It works if you don't think too much about it.

>>2988607
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60136427

>>2988624
Thanks.

>>2988315
>>2988539
>>2988555
Also, what is shitty about it? Line art quality? The eyes? The clothes? Everything? I would rather know upfront so then I can actually grow l and work on avoiding making the same mistakes.

>>2988560
>>2988564
this isnt your blog
i mean hey i get the feeling of not having friends and wanting to tell someone about the awesome le funny adventures you have on the internet but yeah
take it somewhere else

>>2988354
AFAIK, only cute little boys are supposed to have big (girly) eyes in anime. Normal males have either narrow or normal eyes.

>>2988526
I like the pose and legs, but her anatomy looks really strange. I think you fucked up her pelvis, but idk.

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>>2988698
The overall all image looks stiff, the foot looks wonky in the perspective thanks to the heel and the simple shape of the boot lacking dimension the shoulders don't look like they shifting in an arc enough with how straight the arm looks, right hand should back up more and bend at the elbow the reach the handlebar in the photo, and the fingers look quite bulky. the stance on the motorcycle simply doesn't have a nice appeal or rhythm to it, probably cause the perspective of the figure is slightly different then the motorcycle, so the difference in scale is tripping up my brain or something.

tl:dr The overall image looks stiff.

Goggles on the helmet is nicely detailed.

>>2988717
yea it feels like the pelvis wants to be turned slightly,but the groin is communicating that its a front view. I'm trying to retain that curve in the hips, but at that angle it makes the curve more flat? or smaller where it looks like its too small? The angle is messing with my mind.

>>2988560
>>2988564
>acts like a giant faggot toward people who don't care
>dude you're being a giant faggot
>LOL Look at these losers!

>>2988315
Anon can I see the original ref image? I'm working on a redline but I don't know if it's showing her riding it or she's just getting on it

Learn leg and foot anatomy. The Hampton meme is good.

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>>2988781
The original is an old photo with a 3D model applied on top.

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>>2988809
And the source photo.

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>>2988781
>>2988809
And if you meant before I started inking, here it is.

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>>2988809
>tracing a 3D model
fuck sake mate

>>2988698
>>2988809
lesson 1: don't do this

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>>2988832
>>2988849
CSP is pretty good though.

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chibii!

>>2988864
Cute. Would protect

>>2988858
>csp is pretty good
>produces that shit
fucking GREAT innit

>>2988864
Eyes are an eye's distance apart; the right eye is drifting off the head. That isn't chibi, by the way.

why is this thread is /beg/ 2.0

>>2988879
To be honest the model was hand-manipulated from the base pose. Blame me, not the program.

>>2988864
you literally post the same shitty image every thread. the eyes are stuck in the ears again, same hairstyle, still shitty undetailed clothes
its like the only thing you "can" draw is a shitty early 2000's anime head with giant ears that contain the eyeballs of your characters
also they always look up into the right corner
also the fucking eyebrows
god youre killing me

>>2988864
I kid you not, just kill yourself.

>>2988585
>All that supposed knowledge of bone structure and anatomy
>Still manages to fuck up the neck by twisting it in half
>Fails to properly demonstrate the triceps overlapping extensor carpi radialis in that perspective.

Shiggy.

>>2988901
>>2988902
piece of shit nigger fag.

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>>2988913

>>2988913
do you have autism or are underage or something? is this how you legitimately react to people not liking your crappy art? hahaaha

>>2988921
>>2988922
haha, you got baited!

>>2988922
got into the top 20th university in the world, unlike your fking lazy ass in your moms basement that reeks like the disgusting sewer rat you are.

>>2988930
you have the emotional maturity of a fetus hahahaha wow my nigger

>>2988935
jokes on you faggot.

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>And don't forget to HEED THE RULES

janny clean up this mess

>>2988930
>implying /ic/ isn't a Harvard club of the only real people there
Oh, I pity you and your 20th rank university.

>>2988930
>20th university
Just because you got in doesn't mean you are going to graduate from there or even go there. Also, there is a giant gap between top 20 and top 3.

What uni are you going to?

>>2988969
It doesn't even matter if I say it here or not because there are three different campuses and I doubt someone will stalk me, so I'll just say University of Toronto.

>>2988858
the problem with tracing 3d is that usually if the artist dosnt know anatomy enough, he/she might end up not drawing small but nescessary lines that indicates to de viewer the depth or shape of whatever is being drawn... when you use a reference you usually "understand" the shape of the reference and then later reproduces it on the drawing

>>2988976
What are you going to study? Art? Eng? Finance?

General question - anyone on /ic/ actually go to Harvard? Anyone here have a phd?

>>2988987
Biological sciences and Neuroscience, hoping to become a dentist.

>>2988809
>>2988819
>>2988828
>>2988858
>>2988698
Okay going to say upfront I was a little drunk when I did this. Also I couldn't really tell where the other handle was based on that angle in the reference so I just did the best I could. Hopefully, this will teach you something and if not, at least you can laugh at my drunk retardation

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>>2988993
shit forgot file, damn I'm really not feeling it today

>>2988990
>dentist
A few of my friends went through dental school, it sounded awful. They would be whittling teeth on the floor while we were playing board games. You are graded / ranked on how much money you can milk from your patients. Now they have to compete with each other and other dentists to open offices and poach each other's patients.

I would recommend bioengineering or data science if you are into neuroscience. There is a lot of work to be done collecting and processing large data sets for patient studies and health IT.

>>2988990
i feel bad for the people who are gonna make you slightly mad. youll probably rip out your teeth and go crying in a corner because of your hurt feelings. the fact that you are canadian really explains a lot.

>>2988997
im not interested in neuroscience, I honestly want nothing to do with it. It's just that the campus I was admitted to only offers that program. I just want to do undergrad studies there and then get into the dental school at U of T. The only thing I'm thinking about still is that U of T is really harder than other schools, and thinking whether or not I should do undergrad at an easier uni, rather than a hell hole like U of T. Cause t b h dental schools just care about the gpa..

I know it sounds awful at first, but the money you make later on is like 200k a year, and if you specialize into something like ortho or endo, you can make upwards of about 500-600k a year.

>>2988986
True dat.

>>2988993
>>2988996
Thanks. I keep on forgetting about that method of drawing figures. And now I just remembered about that one Simpsons episode.

>>2988996
Honestly anon I learned a lot from this even if you did this while drunk. That staircase idea is fucking mindblowing for me I'll have to try it out

>>2989007
>do undergrad at an easier uni
probably a good idea, my friends went to MIT for undergrad and then dental school / med school. I have no idea why except they are masochists.

>200k a year
>500-600k a year
Anecdotally, my surgeon friends should eventually be earning 500k, but they are still in residency, and end to end will take 10yrs after undergrad

My dentist friends are pulling about 150k which took 5 yrs after undergrad, but by that time I was earning 200k as an engineer. Plus I had been already working 5yrs and I didn't have any med school debt, so they are about 1mil behind me.

Doctors will eventually have a higher base salary, but engineers get stock. 10yrs after undergrad I should also be earning about 500k (including RSUs)

The most important take away is that I didn't stay in school for another 5 yrs, and I earned money at a dead end job, and had free time to make drawing a hobby.

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>>2988864

>>2989075
You made it uglier

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>>2988879
>Eyes are an eye's distance apart
non ironic lol. though generally true you can do whatever. its funny because this rule used to be gold standard but i barely talk about it nowadays.

>>2989077
Lol Nosebro you're not even that good to start ignoring rules like that.
Wesley Burt is on another level and he's had years of experience so he can break those rules and make them still work. You still haven't earned that right buddy

>>2989075
the original is fucking garbage
your version is fucking garbage
all of you weeb faggots deserve to get executed

>>2989085
Well I couldn't really do much to save it. Too lazy to fix it by construction methods so I just resized it and called it a day lol

>>2988864
A cute. Cute!

>>2989085
>>2988901
>>2988902
>>2988922
I wouldn't be surprised if you were all the same guy

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>>2988990
>hey doctor, I've got a really bad toothache
>don't worry, I've got this
>I'm about to start drilling for the cavity
>THROUGH YOUR BRAAAAAIN

That's it, I'm fucking off for now and going to study Wesley Burt

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>>2988864
I'm not great but I think the eye on the right is too far to the right, taking into account it`s a bust from an angle. I think moving it makes it look a lot better.

But fuck, dude, you're great at doing animu eyes. Doing this quick draw-over taught me shit.

>>2989093
>everyone who doesnt like my art is a samefag
>im perfect
>everyone likes me and EVERYONE WHO DOESNT SHOULD FUCKING DIE IM GONNA GO CRY TO MY MOM WAAAAH

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>>2989117
calm down there autismo

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Little Trouble in Big Japan

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>>2989163
Nice but is it a Big Trouble in Little China reference?

>>2989178
olol thanks
I couldn't think of anything to say along with it and I'm watching a stream of people that mentioned Big Trouble in Little China when I was about to post.

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sup /ic/ can I get some opinions on this composition for the cover page of my comic?

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>>2989174
c-could it be?

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work and life have been shit lately, so i drew a giant loli for respite

seeing a ton of problems just by looking at it from a different screen

>>2989220
Praying for you giantlolibro.

>>2989200
I think the red and green objects (paintings and the other things) are super huge comparated to the "blue guys". You need to use a reference point (maybe the head of your caracters or wathever) to measure correctly the objects in your scene.

>>2989290
Shit you're right, thanks

>>2989308
=P

>>2988556
yes hes being sarcastic.

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can I get some crit?

>>2989421
muh dick

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>>2989421
Strongly reminds me of this artist.

As for some crit...
Her lower spine and left leg seem weird. The amplitude between the waist and the leg joint is too big. And I'm not sure that the pinky toe on her right leg is positioned correctly. Oh, and ze arms (including her palms) are disproportionaly beefy for such a slender body.

Finally, her swimsuit looks like it is not wrapping the booty tightly at all. But if it isn't, then it should have fallen down into her butt crack. And if it is, you have to show creases that it makes in the skin.

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the arm is fucked but im done

>>2989220
man how do you manage to draw the same content over and over? i feel like anyone would get bored at one point. really cool city too.

>>2989523

Yeah the arm looks wonky. Shame, the piece is great otherwise. Total time spent on it?

>>2989523
Not him, but it's really simple.
Just draw what you love, that's all.

>>2989523
wao this is such nice work! especially the way you show form... please, any tips for getting this gud?

>>2989527
around 12-16 hrs split between three sections i think...

>>2989531
sorry im not really good at giving general advice that isn't the same shit that you hear all the time

>>2989535
ahhhh then a more specific question; how do you treat form and lighting to get it to read so well? it's so hard for me... also seeing your stuff is quite inspiring bc i'm about the same age but have a long way to go rip

>>2989523
You foreshortened the leg but not the elbow?

>>2989523
By god do you know how long it took me to actually see her arm? I thought it was part of her gun because of the metal and because the lower arm doesn't line up with upper arm. The rest looks soooo good but that arm man makes it so hard to read.

>>2989651
lmao didnt realize until you mentioned it.

>>2989651
>The rest looks soooo good but that arm man makes it so hard to read
>The rest looks soooo good
>colossal badonkadonk but itty bitty chicken-leg calf
>non-existent right arm
>rayman right hand
The colouring is excellent though.

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Should I bother inking this? I kind of want to change the pose but maybe I should just abandon it.

>>2988207
Study

>>2988262
Finish this abomination. Then study, and start a new less terrible abomination.

>>2989722
whenever I feel that way I just ask myself
got anything else you should be doing?
and o usually don't

>>2989421
fuck that game 3/10
pic is ok though arm bothers me nothing else to say

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>>2988717
Eh, how big is too big?

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lot to still finish but what think so far

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>>2988560
>>2988564

>>2989910
dynamic and clean. right hand and butt look off. Gap between legs makes it look flat...or like the body is propped up on a pyramid, instead of resting on the legs.. Right side of bow oddly squished.

>>2989910
also ear too low

>>2989477
Not enough thicc. ok
Yea, i don't think I pushed the forms enough there. I rushed through that area, tbqh.
Thx
>>2989747
I kinda agree with you. At least the character designs are interesting.

>>2989910
Striking the ARMS iron before it's even hot.

You're so bold, ASIS-kun!

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Was redrawing a ref and ended up making it an improv comparison sort of thing. Feels gud

Now I just need to learn how to fucking shade. No matter how much I try it looks.. plastic? Overworked?

>>2988244
Is all good mane.

Dont trace tho.

>>2990041
it looks like you shade with black and white
especially in the face
bls dont do that to your art

>>2990046
Admittedly I did try a new technique of shading in black/white and tried to make the white pixels transparent/color the darkness from there. I'm just shit at it so far

>>2990049
honestly just shade with colors, then put a layer above your whole drawing, fill it in with black, set it to "color" and you can see your values. just turn the layer off and on when you need to check.
i feel like switching to better coloring would really push you forward

>>2989077
>>2989081
I don't think they work though. The face of that androgynous being between two old guys at the center is really fucked up, and the "girl" to the lower left picture looks pretty much /beg/ tier, what's with this horribly distorted fugly face. I swear, I saw some better drawings at /beg/ over the last month. Not even the values are good in these two portraits. And the guy with a hueg nose next to her doesn't look human too (dem eyes), but maybe he wasn't even supposed to be...?

The others can impress, but not for breaking the rules.

>>2989776
Still too big for a seemingly aging man. Fine for a 10-year-old boy.

>>2990041
>> tfw it is hard to tell where the original is
Anyway, I must say that the attire on the left pic is more appealing. Can't argue with details!

>>2988564
this is why you'll never make it. too busy shit talking people instead of working on your craft. focus the hate where it belongs, on yourself and your lack of skill

>>2990050
I will start trying this instead, thank you
>>2990057
1 year progress left to right lol. But your preference is noted, ty

>>2988564
http://bunnyhep.deviantart.com/
someone of your skill level also has no business talking shit. lol.

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>>2990065
A ponyfag too at that, that's just fucking rich

>>2989081
> earned that right
lol faggot

>>2990074
Fucking kek

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>>2989722
Changed the pose. Is this okay looking?
>>2989744
I'm sure there's a vast number of more productive things to be doing than drawing anime.

>>2990074
Ponies are GOOD, redart!

>>2989081
>you havent earned that right

you cant just say stupid shit like this while being as pretentious as you are. You don't "earn" a right to stylize. Yes, it's critical to master fundamentals, but you dont just give up on a style altogether. You find a synthesis where the two can work as you please.

>>2990164
How do I get as good as you?

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This will have to do. Finished.

>>2990279
>that date at the bottom
Are you that person from /beg/ who does the insane progress?

>>2990291
>Are you that person from /beg/
yes
>insane progress
don't make it look like I'm samefagging

>>2990293
I'm not even that person but holy fuck you are improving rapidly.

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>>2989421
First of all, I like the face, it's very appealing.

As for the critique, I think there are some perspective issues mainly with the hips and the arm.

Comparing them to the upper body the twist seems to much to be possible, I suggest to tone that a bit down.

Looking at the arm I wasn't sure what body type you're going for. The arm looks buff but the rest of her doesn't really, so I just toned that down a bit too, but the main point about the arm is the shape of the lower arm and the direction it seems to be going. Due to the way the joint area is overlapping it looks like it's coming towards us, but that feels strained and unnatural. As well the hand, it would look more natural if it wasn't turned towards the viewer.

Is that a hand next her face behind the ball thing?

Last thing would be the raised foot, it also feels unnatural, my suggestion is to put it down, but you can do something else as long as it doesn't feel stiff.

>>2990270
>that unecessary hair on the eye
blog?

>>2990314
Good points.I kind of unintentionally mixed different body types together.
There's a hand on the ball thing, but I thought it was a prop or something. As if she were a which who wore severed arms, ya know? Turns out in the reference it was her actual hand. I had to remove that completely.
And you're right, the popped leg does feel strange.
Thanks for the crit, anon

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I'm trying to draw Mysterion in animu style from South Park...the pose is giving me trouble.

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>>2989992
>>2989994
art thou feeling it now, mr. krabs

>>2990021
i thought everyone an their moms was drawing twintelle tho

oh also >>2989992, that's not a bow, it's like a weird belt like wrap round the waist thing

>>2990573
Why do people insist on screwing around like this? That ass is disgusting, like a peach that was left under a tire, and her torso is just too small for every single part of her body. Also, there aren't even any high heels for her to stand like that, and you didn't bother to draw bangs. I want to see if your rendering will save this "style", though.

>>2990600
> what is exaggeration

>>2990573
Her calves are on the wrong side.

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>>2990774
power stance, my dude
curvature of the shin bones does some goofy, unexpected stuff to the shin's silhouette and playing it up tends to make for a more interesting flow to the pose and shape design of a figure

>>2990814
The guy in the photo isn't pointing his feet out as far as the girl is. I won't say the drawing is flat out wrong, but it introduces an awkwardness to the figure that outweighs the benefits.

Reorient the feet, and you won't have this problem at all.

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dawdling

I'm having a lot of trouble finding my own style.
There are a few artist that I really like, but I don't want to be a fag and just copy them. I mean, it would be embarrassing because people would know me for being a crappy, half fast version of somebody else.

I'm having a hard time drawing in general.

I don't know what I'm going to do with myself.

>>2990900
Just copy your favorite artists and eventually you will absorb your favorite parts of their work and that superposition of multiple artists becomes your style.

Also, doing "studies" and copies helps to get your pen down on paper which is more important for logging lots of mileage.

Eventually, when you want to draw your own original content, the choice of content that you draw becomes part of your style, and that is independent of the techniques you picked up from copying other artists' work

>>2990501
>a grid for no reason
why

>>2991206
Because I wanted to make sure the shoes were on the same line?? Please feel free to rip me a new hole on how I can fix.

>>2988864
All your art is chibi then I assume?
Since there's exactly no difference

>>2991242
Why would the feet necessarily be on the same line? The left foot ought to be closer to the viewer than the right foot in this view and stance.

Why would you need to draw an entire grid for just one line?

The grid itself is misaligned, and the divisions do not look like squares.

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What are these kinds of backgrounds called? (Not my art.)

>>2991653
man that's oldschool
back in my day we used to call them tech, but this one is very simple

>>2990900
as long as you "steal" from more than one artist, it's cool
don't just copy one artist; it'll be obvious as fuck

>>2990900
maybe drawing isn't for you
i made the same mistake

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pls don't kill me for drawing this.

>>2991690
Cute, but I then you messed up her arms.

>>2991690
You didn't even fix the eyes while you were at adding those bust-up-fuck appendages.

>>2991690
how do you manage to be so bad at drawing? like how does this even happen? the arms look like something out of silent hill or something holy shit.
also eyes literally inside the fucking ears
also why does she have an extra pair of cat ears. there should really be a second pair of eyeballs in them, not okay.

>>2991690
did she drink the bone hurting juice
seriously tho, go do some figure studies, at least try to figure out some proportions and shapes, you don't gotta get all realistic but from the looks of it you literally only know how to draw heads in 3/4th's view

>>2991690
Back to /beg/. Have fun.

>>2991690
arms fucked
eyes spaced inconsistently
torso looks flat making neck look detached

>>2991705
dude why are you so mad? Did I do something that hurt your feelings? Jesus.

>>2991719
Your art is retarded and you simply won't fix it. Please listen to what everyone says.

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>>2991690
>>2991719
dude your art always pushes the boundaries
you really inspire me
I just felt really compelled to create fanart, I tried to follow the original design as closely as possible

>>2991721
Nty. I prefer not to listen to you.

>>2991719
yes you hurt me
but not my feelings
my eyes, they are slowly drooping out my my skull and its because of your shitty art
pay me for glass eyes nigger

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bls no bully :///333

>>2991733
lets see how much shittier your art is kek

>>2991722
I'm loving this new wave of modern art anon has created

>>2991705
for u honey

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>>2991745
drop

>>2991747
now i want official kron art of this adorable girl.

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>>2991739
She's beautiful, anon.

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I don't even know what I'm doing.

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>>2991690
what was the pose even meant to be

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>>2991759
make your heads wider and learn how to construct them properly
then move on to drawing bodies
you really ought to just go to /beg/

>>2991774
>stretch image
wew lad

>>2991774

I fucked up on the head shape. Should've flattened the top a little. Also slightly bigger overall.

>>2991881
is it cancer day today? why do you have to post here? why do you have to breathe? just stop. with both. your work is genuine trash.

>>2991892
that edge , you okay anon

>>2991892
And why don't you go away with your bad self?

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>>2991690
jesus fuck , is this what happens when you focus too much learning one thing but dont touch the rest ?[spoiler]because thats what im doing ;_;[/spoiler]

>>2991881
The eye is pleasant. The rest is useless.

>>2991690
I really love the face, the arms need a little work though.

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>>2991690
loomis

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>>2991901
Not really, that anon is just retarded and never leaves their comfort zone. If you focus on learning form rather than drawing the same ayyy lmao 3/4th view over and over then you'll be alright
t. someone who's been grinding heads for the past few months but is still okay because of the power of boxes

>>2991881
>>2991897
>>2991898
either samefag or summer

>>2991881
boxman i rly love u and i want u to be my bf

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>>2991983
thanks god , i 've been grinding heads the past 3 weeks

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>>2991983
improvement is clearly not evident after drawing heads over and over again :thinking: hmm clearly should have drawn boxes all day, would have been a master of drawing boxes. Boxes hmmmm... 27 years of drawing boxes will help you to get to kim jung gi level HMMMMMMMM :spoilers: Yes your fking retarded..

>>2992112
When you look at it like this, the left one almost seems pro.

>>2992112
Dude holy shit your autism is showing. You have posted the same shit art in these threads for the past few months now and ignore any crits you get, that's why you're stagnating.
Also
>your
>:thinking:
>fking
You have to go back

>>2992127
fuck off and don't reply to me anymore idgaf about what you have to say you piece of shit.. Stay bad and shit at art fuckboi. It's funny how you can hide behind a computer and complain about other peoples "shit art" ok buddy laugh all you want, but idgaf asshole.

>>2992112
What discord do you hang out in now anon

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Hello people of 4chan I made a thread about what I'm about to say but not sure if I needed a thread I'm new to this site I hope that doesn't bother to many people here. So I was wondering if my work would fit at comic conventions in artist alley. I have been looking into selling my prints there but not sure if it will fit mostly because it's a comic convention. Please let me know your honest opinion I don't mind tough criticism I said that in my thread to lol but really I don't mind.

>>2992174
First of, thank you for moving to one of the generals with your question. Not everyone is willing to amend their mistake when they make a new thread.

Second, no i don't think your work would fit in at artists alley. It's mostly cute art and character drawings. You could possibly still make small postcards with art samples on them and pass them out though to get people to check out your work and maybe get new followers but your work doesn't have that generic mass appeal quality that find success in animu cons.

I think your work needs some finesse before you can really sell it though.

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>>2989910
>filename

Thanks for the reply and the helpful thoughts. Also what do you mean by more of a finesse should I smooth the skin out more using a watercolor brush or ad more layers to the painting? I stopped at this point because I didn't want to mess the paper up to much so it doesn't warp

>>2992132
we need to screenshot this and just post it over and over so that people realize that you are the worst cancer in alt, lol.
you sound so massively autistic, it honestly makes me wonder if you start crying irl when people say meanie poopie things BEHIND A COMPUTER! i mean, of all places, why would people say MEAN CRITICISMS on the INTERNET???? you will always be shit.
go have a party with cumbum and illastrat. youre the cancerous weeb version of them.

>>2992174
seconding what >>2992218 said
I don't think your stuff right now is suited exactly - think more anime, cute, poppy colours and generally, digital art (easier to get a cleaner look unless you really know your way around traditional)

also check out the artist alley thread at /cgl/

>>2992346
where are her hands? maybe rest them on her knees or something

>>2990882
This Ayane?

>>2992400
who now?

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idk i just went wild

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>>2992429
Do you have learning material out?

>>2992440
learning material? i had a bunch of pictures i liked up in my tabs that i looked at every so often, if that counts

>>2992429
Fucking QT, man. Blog?

>>2992429
simple but feels dynamic
can you tell us a bit about how you colour/choose colours, or maybe your art inspo with colour?

>>2992445
twitter.com/godsh0t
godsh0t.tumblr.com

beep boop

>>2992449
I just pick some colors I like and go ham. Probably the only thing I keep in mind when picking colors is that warm lights make cool shadows and cool lights make was shadows. Art inspo for this one definitely has to be @nlmoo

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Just got this on /a/. It's essentialy what your brain goes through when drawing anime and why it's actually harder than realism.

>>2992429
you're my hero.

>>2992695
>it's actually harder than realism
lol no

>>2992695
this is dumb as hell and just an optical illusion

make sure not to take it seriously

>>2992695
Its not harder than realism, it is just harder to learn anything from it if you are a complete beginner. If you don't understand form to begin with.

>>2992440
you know I just woke up again and realized you were probably asking if I had any tutorials or something, not if I was using any resources while I drew lmao

in that case, uhhh I have a patreon where I release psds but that's about it as far as "learning material" goes

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>>2992695
I call bs
like >>2992718 said, it's basically an 3d anime version of pic related.

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>>2992695
>It's actually harder than realism.

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>>2992695
I hope you've learned something today, anon.

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>>2992778
>>2992771
>>2992759
>>2992732
>>2992718
>>2992714

p-pls no bully, it's just that i don't know wtf is happening on that webm and though it answered why cgi anime sucks even with today's computers. I suppose it's just a case of not trying at all it seems. Also, being inflamatory is the best way to get fast answers over here.

>>2988560
>>2988564
Good, cause you're an idiot.
>>2990065
>>2990074
kek

>>2992429
Amazing colors, love how vibrant it is!

>>2992429
I want to draw like this.

>>2991690
This is what will happen, if you'll draw only heads, kids.

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can some redline this please. I like how the body turned out but the head looks very deformed its almost like the head isnt connected to the body..

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>>2992959
sry no red line because i have no tablet atm. ur head and neck were too far back

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>>2992959
It looks like you tilted the face and not her head/hair. Sorry this is kind of shitty but I don't have my tablet with me right now. Also, fix that hand.

>>2992959
Blog?

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>>2993006

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>>2992959

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I don't know what to draw right now.

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>>2989220
Cleaned it up and probably will force myself to stay away from this subject matter for a while

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spaaaceeeeeeeeeeeee

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I need someone with a fresh eye and harsh (optionally) but precise and honest words. Being a face fetishist, god damn, am I terrible at faces.

>>2993169
Giant, muscular, sweating lolis reaping destruction with aroused faces and all this contrast... what's not to love? Although I have to wonder why the ends of her twintails aren't blonde.

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>>2993190
draw in 2d but , think in 3d also LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMIS

>>2993169
>stay away from this subject matter for a while
We will miss you but we are really proud that you decided to take that step.
Godspeed

>>2993205
There's still one or two WIPs that I might want to wrap up first, but I'll try to let them slide.

>>2993064
Draw something moe. Do it faggot.

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>>2992997
just a quick edit suggestion
the style is great though, reminds me a little of mike mignola

This thread is fucking garbage. I'm actually done coming here. Jesus what a joke. Thanks for the solid crits while I was here, but umm none of those people probably post here anymore either.

>>2993354
nobody likes cancerous people

>>2993354
see you in the drawthreads

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finished this one

>>2993365
Wow, amazing stuff. Blog? I would want a commission from you. Any tips?

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>>2993169
just some very small edits:
- played with levels (maybe overdid this) and colour balance (less yellow, more hues)
- zoomed out a little, to get rid of the tangent of her crystal hair things, balance composition more
- exaggerated her face just a little
- made her blush a little less murky, more airbrush
- added some debris flying towards camera in foreground, more depth
- changed some of the stuff around the top borders to better frame
- small edits to explosions to intensify them

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>>2993202
...Yeah, that's pretty much the opposite of what I asked.
I'd rather get a redline based on the assumption that only the eyes are meant to be heavily stylized. To be honest, I have less and less idea what could be wrong with the face the more I squint, or flip the image, or rotate, or modify it. REeEEEEEEEeeEEEEeee...!!

>>2993382
what >>2993202 posted still applies.

use a reference, actually LOOK at the reference
you say only the eyes are meant to be heavily stylised but in what reality do humans have no lips and voldemort noses.
also: you focus too much on detail, why draw individual eyelashes when you haven't gotten the basic eye shape right,
why spend time detailing the ear when neither the shape nor position are right.
I think you should work on correcting these mistakes in the sketch/lineart stage, before moving onto colouring, airbrushing, detailing.

>REeEEEEEEEeeEEEEeee...!!
my first instinct is to say fuck off, but seriously, are you 12?

can someone recommend some good guides on cel shading?

>>2993390
I really wish someone said all of this at the time I posted the lineart.
What's with the eye shape though? Is it 3D issues related to rotation, or is it a bad attempt to show squinting that goes with a smile?

>> voldemort noses
You're the second person to say that, so it might really look like that to some, but why? I see a much more defined nose and the nostrils are horizontal, like they should be in normal human noses... I myself can't see any similarities. Is my low-contrast shading to blame?

Your saying that she lacks lips is less baffling, although I spent quite some time rendering them. It's true that I dislike defined lips since I absolutely hate makeup and associate defined lips with it. So I usually model them after my own, which are just a bit darker than my basic skin color. Even so, I did notice the positive change in readability after increasing the contrast.

>> my first instinct is to say fuck off, but seriously, are you 12?
A dozen years older, actually. Please don't mind my embarrassing attempt to be trendy and hip.

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>>2993456
I'll help you out a little with what I know
disclaimer: I rarely draw semi-realistic my specialty is cute anime girls and even then, I'm far from great

>>2993542
Otsukaresama soshite arigatou gozaimasu, senpai! Saved.
Btw, what search query lets you find this pose? I don't know how to describe it so that the AI understands which images I want.

>>2993043
>>2992981
>>2992975
Thank you it makes sense now

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WIP

>>2993752
good shit anon.

>>2993365
Great stuff! (but what's that between her boobs, a bullet?)

>>2988315
how can someone be so shit and so advanced at drawing at the same time? crazy

>>2993770
advanced in what way?

>>2993752
looking good anon

>>2993770
lol wat

>>2993379
jesus, the face
it's so 2d compared to everything else
I know it isn't hard to maintain the anime style in 3d drawings but check out webang in youtube, he seems to have reconliced the sweet spot, does one thing but does it well

>>2993379
Thank you so much for this, I'll admit I'm biased towards yellow tones alot more.

new thread >>2993875